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Ic3Bullet 06/15/18 7:10:29 PM #1:	And liberals didnt care until Trump was in office and they needed something else to blame on him. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:903338141] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>And liberals didnt care until Trump was in office and they needed something else to blame on him.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
FLUFFYGERM 06/15/18 7:24:02 PM #2:	Leftists love useful victims. They don't actually care about the policies that actually eliminate poverty etc cuz those policies get rid of those victims. --- Do good. Eat communists. <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted [p:903338930] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>Leftists love useful victims. They don't actually care about the policies that actually eliminate poverty etc cuz those policies get rid of those victims.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sad_Face 06/15/18 7:28:21 PM #3:	Blessed Trump for shining light on the issue. --- imgtc.com/i/4HgTl0ebzq.jpg imgtc.com/i/60CWP2Gtlg.gif <cite>Sad_Face posted [p:903339181] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>Blessed Trump for shining light on the issue.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/15/18 7:29:50 PM #4:	basically, yes. Obama did the same stuff as Trump but libs ignore it when Obama does it. when Trump does the same thing, they suddenly care and freak out <cite>Zikten posted [p:903339264] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>basically, yes. Obama did the same stuff as Trump but libs ignore it when Obama does it. when Trump does the same thing, they suddenly care and freak out</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Iodine 06/15/18 7:31:38 PM #5:	Do you have any sources for this? --- In Belichick we Trust <cite>Iodine posted [p:903339372] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>Do you have any sources for this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 06/15/18 7:43:30 PM #6:	Iodine posted... Do you have any sources for this? I'm guessing its just typical gaslighting with no evidence to back it up (or something nebulous like it happened a few times) --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:903340036] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote>Do you have any sources for this?</quote> I'm guessing its just typical gaslighting with no evidence to back it up (or something nebulous like it happened a few times)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 06/15/18 7:46:09 PM #7:	Pretty sure immigration policies was one of the things Obama was criticized for legitimately from both sides. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:903340200] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>Pretty sure immigration policies was one of the things Obama was criticized for legitimately from both sides.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
voldothegr8 06/15/18 7:55:22 PM #8:	Ic3Bullet posted... And liberals didnt care until Trump was in office and they needed something else to blame on him. FLUFFYGERM posted... Leftists love useful victims. They don't actually care about the policies that actually eliminate poverty etc cuz those policies get rid of those victims. Zikten posted... basically, yes. Obama did the same stuff as Trump but libs ignore it when Obama does it. when Trump does the same thing, they suddenly care and freak out All accurate --- Oda break tracker 2018- 3 (2) \| THE Ohio State: 11-2 \| Oakland Raiders: 6-10 Super Mario Maker Profile: 1237-0000-0073-02FE <cite>voldothegr8 posted [p:903340737] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>And liberals didnt care until Trump was in office and they needed something else to blame on him.</quote> <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Leftists love useful victims. They don't actually care about the policies that actually eliminate poverty etc cuz those policies get rid of those victims.</quote> <cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>basically, yes. Obama did the same stuff as Trump but libs ignore it when Obama does it. when Trump does the same thing, they suddenly care and freak out</quote> All accurate</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 06/15/18 7:58:04 PM #9:	YellowSUV posted... Iodine posted... Do you have any sources for this? I'm guessing its just typical gaslighting with no evidence to back it up (or something nebulous like it happened a few times) We'll see this claim spouted by the usual suspects for the next few months while they refuse to provide any sources for the claim. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:903340893] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>YellowSUV posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Iodine posted...</cite> <quote> Do you have any sources for this?</quote> I'm guessing its just typical gaslighting with no evidence to back it up (or something nebulous like it happened a few times)</quote> We'll see this claim spouted by the usual suspects for the next few months while they refuse to provide any sources for the claim.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
treewojima 06/15/18 7:58:51 PM #10:	that's a very bold statement to be making without a source not that it matters anyway, since it's a terrible policy that should be stopped regardless of who also did it in the past <cite>treewojima posted [p:903340932] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>that's a very bold statement to be making without a source not that it matters anyway, since it's a terrible policy that should be stopped regardless of who also did it in the past</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YourDrunkFather 06/15/18 8:00:31 PM #11:	Would not surprise me in the slightest but you gotta source something like this --- One bourbon,one scotch,one beer <cite>YourDrunkFather posted [p:903341021] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>Would not surprise me in the slightest but you gotta source something like this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
VanananaHeyHey 06/15/18 8:01:33 PM #12:	And it was wrong then, too. That people are protesting now is still relevant to the wrongness of it, just like racism was wrong before tumblr was around. --- CE's Official linguist, War-tor-le and Charizard <cite>VanananaHeyHey posted [p:903341074] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>And it was wrong then, too. That people are protesting now is still relevant to the wrongness of it, just like racism was wrong before tumblr was around.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 06/15/18 8:13:17 PM #13:	Give me 4 hours and ill have your source. Im at work right now. VanananaHeyHey posted... And it was wrong then, too. That people are protesting now is still relevant to the wrongness of it, just like racism was wrong before tumblr was around. But theyre blaming Trump like its his fault. The law which states children be separated from their parents at the border had been in place for 20 years. Its only happening in mass now because Trump has been tougher on illegal immigration than any president in the past. If past presidents had been tougher on illegal immigration, perhaps the problem wouldnt be as big now. But separating the kids wasnt Trumps idea. Its just an unfortunate consequence of his illegal immigration policy. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:903341673] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>Give me 4 hours and ill have your source. Im at work right now. <cite>VanananaHeyHey posted...</cite> <quote>And it was wrong then, too. That people are protesting now is still relevant to the wrongness of it, just like racism was wrong before tumblr was around.</quote> But theyre blaming Trump like its his fault. The law which states children be separated from their parents at the border had been in place for 20 years. Its only happening in mass now because Trump has been tougher on illegal immigration than any president in the past. If past presidents had been tougher on illegal immigration, perhaps the problem wouldnt be as big now. But separating the kids wasnt Trumps idea. Its just an unfortunate consequence of his illegal immigration policy.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 06/15/18 8:16:25 PM #14:	Ic3Bullet posted... Give me 4 hours and ill have your source. Im at work right now. All the time in the world to shitpost but you gotta take your time to verify your own bullshit. SAD! --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:903341817] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>Give me 4 hours and ill have your source. Im at work right now.</quote> All the time in the world to shitpost but you gotta take your time to verify your own bullshit. SAD!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ElatedVenusaur 06/15/18 8:22:34 PM #15:	http://thehill.com/latino/392522-ap-about-2000-children-separated-from-parents-over-6-weeks While it is true that our country has a history of monstrous cruelty in regards to immigration policy, there's been an explosion in these child separations in the past six weeks due to new policies implemented by the Trump administration. Also, FYI, just because others have done something wrong doesn't absolve you of guilt for doing it too. Especially when you gleefully ramp things up. <cite>ElatedVenusaur posted [p:903342127] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>http://thehill.com/latino/392522-ap-about-2000-children-separated-from-parents-over-6-weeks While it is true that our country has a history of monstrous cruelty in regards to immigration policy, there's been an explosion in these child separations in the past six weeks due to new policies implemented by the Trump administration. Also, FYI, just because others have done something wrong doesn't absolve you of guilt for doing it too. Especially when you gleefully ramp things up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 06/15/18 8:24:42 PM #16:	If you dont like it then dont fucking come here. Go to Canada. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:903342245] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>If you dont like it then dont fucking come here. Go to Canada.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 06/15/18 8:26:18 PM #17:	A_Good_Boy posted... Ic3Bullet posted... Give me 4 hours and ill have your source. Im at work right now. All the time in the world to shitpost but you gotta take your time to verify your own bullshit. SAD! Will my true statements still be shitposting after I provide the proof? Look, its easy for me to type words on my phone between customers, but finding proof that a specific law and proving it was implemented on a certain date is going to have to wait until Im free. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:903342330] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>Give me 4 hours and ill have your source. Im at work right now.</quote> All the time in the world to shitpost but you gotta take your time to verify your own bullshit. SAD!</quote> Will my true statements still be shitposting after I provide the proof? Look, its easy for me to type words on my phone between customers, but finding proof that a specific law and proving it was implemented on a certain date is going to have to wait until Im free.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
A_Good_Boy 06/15/18 8:31:43 PM #18:	Ic3Bullet posted... A_Good_Boy posted... Ic3Bullet posted... Give me 4 hours and ill have your source. Im at work right now. All the time in the world to shitpost but you gotta take your time to verify your own bullshit. SAD! Will my true statements still be shitposting after I provide the proof? Look, its easy for me to type words on my phone between customers, but finding proof that a specific law and proving it was implemented on a certain date is going to have to wait until Im free. If you can shitpost then you can Google search. --- Who is? I am! <cite>A_Good_Boy posted [p:903342615] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote> Give me 4 hours and ill have your source. Im at work right now. </quote> All the time in the world to shitpost but you gotta take your time to verify your own bullshit. SAD!</quote> Will my true statements still be shitposting after I provide the proof? Look, its easy for me to type words on my phone between customers, but finding proof that a specific law and proving it was implemented on a certain date is going to have to wait until Im free.</quote> If you can shitpost then you can Google search.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 06/15/18 9:03:09 PM #19:	@A_Good_Boy @YellowSUV @Iodine @YourDrunkFather https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/6/279 (2) the term unaccompanied alien child means a child who (A) has no lawful immigration status in the United States; (B) has not attained 18 years of age; and (C) with respect to whom-- (i) there is no parent or guardian in the United States; or (ii) no parent or legal guardian in the United States is available to provide care and physical custody. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1232 (b)(3) Transfers of Unaccompanied Alien Children Except in the case of exceptional circumstances, any department or agency of the Federal Government that has an unaccompanied alien child in custody shall transfer the custody of such child to the Secretary of Health and Human Services not later than 72 hours after determining that such child is an unaccompanied alien child. You can read the dates at the bottom of those pages. The very latest one youll find on any law written on either of those pages is 2013, well before Trump was elected. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:903344357] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>@A_Good_Boy @YellowSUV @Iodine @YourDrunkFather https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/6/279 <quote>(2) the term unaccompanied alien child means a child who (A) has no lawful immigration status in the United States; (B) has not attained 18 years of age; and (C) with respect to whom-- (i) there is no parent or guardian in the United States; or (ii) no parent or legal guardian in the United States is available to provide care and physical custody.</quote> https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1232 <quote>(b)(3) Transfers of Unaccompanied Alien Children Except in the case of exceptional circumstances, any department or agency of the Federal Government that has an unaccompanied alien child in custody shall transfer the custody of such child to the Secretary of Health and Human Services not later than 72 hours after determining that such child is an unaccompanied alien child.</quote> You can read the dates at the bottom of those pages. The very latest one youll find on any law written on either of those pages is 2013, well before Trump was elected.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 06/15/18 9:10:46 PM #20:	better late than never tbh --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:903344775] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>better late than never tbh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 06/15/18 9:13:22 PM #21:	prince_leo posted... better late than never tbh Exactly. I don't know why people are using this as a "gotcha!" Separating children from their parents is pretty awful* regardless of which presidents have done it. Better for people to be angry now than not angry at all. Something of which apparently even Trump agrees on: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1007671131841671169 The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda.* Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN! --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:903344894] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>better late than never tbh</quote> Exactly. I don't know why people are using this as a "gotcha!" Separating children from their parents is pretty awful* regardless of which presidents have done it. Better for people to be angry now than not angry at all. *Something of which apparently even Trump agrees on: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1007671131841671169 The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 06/15/18 9:16:59 PM #22:	What does that first sentence even have to do with the rest of his tweet? --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:903345051] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>What does that first sentence even have to do with the rest of his tweet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Hinakuluiau 06/15/18 9:18:30 PM #23:	BLAKUboy posted... What does that first sentence even have to do with the rest of his tweet? Nothing. He's just blaming democrats for anything he can and his base eats it up. --- There are some things where I just bypass critical thinking. - ROD <cite>Hinakuluiau posted [p:903345133] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote>What does that first sentence even have to do with the rest of his tweet?</quote> Nothing. He's just blaming democrats for anything he can and his base eats it up.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 06/15/18 9:23:46 PM #24:	Hinakuluiau posted... prince_leo posted... better late than never tbh Exactly. I don't know why people are using this as a "gotcha!" Separating children from their parents is pretty awful* regardless of which presidents have done it. Better for people to be angry now than not angry at all. Something of which apparently even Trump agrees on: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1007671131841671169 The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda.* Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN! It is awe full, and I hope something will be done about it. But the point Im trying to make is liberals shouldt be blaming Trump for this. The only thing Trump has done wrong here isnt be tough on illegal immigration. This separation stuff is just an unfortunate consequence due to laws that were made in the past. Im not even a Trump supporter. Im just tired of liberal media blaming him for EVERYTHING whether its his fault or not. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:903345395] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Hinakuluiau posted...</cite> <quote><cite>prince_leo posted...</cite> <quote>better late than never tbh</quote> Exactly. I don't know why people are using this as a "gotcha!" Separating children from their parents is pretty awful* regardless of which presidents have done it. Better for people to be angry now than not angry at all. *Something of which apparently even Trump agrees on: https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1007671131841671169 The Democrats are forcing the breakup of families at the Border with their horrible and cruel legislative agenda. Any Immigration Bill MUST HAVE full funding for the Wall, end Catch & Release, Visa Lottery and Chain, and go to Merit Based Immigration. Go for it! WIN!</quote> It is awe full, and I hope something will be done about it. But the point Im trying to make is liberals shouldt be blaming Trump for this. The only thing Trump has done wrong here isnt be tough on illegal immigration. This separation stuff is just an unfortunate consequence due to laws that were made in the past. Im not even a Trump supporter. Im just tired of liberal media blaming him for EVERYTHING whether its his fault or not.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_OujiDoza_ 06/15/18 9:27:37 PM #25:	voldothegr8 posted... Ic3Bullet posted... And liberals didnt care until Trump was in office and they needed something else to blame on him. FLUFFYGERM posted... Leftists love useful victims. They don't actually care about the policies that actually eliminate poverty etc cuz those policies get rid of those victims. Zikten posted... basically, yes. Obama did the same stuff as Trump but libs ignore it when Obama does it. when Trump does the same thing, they suddenly care and freak out All accurate The suspects... They are the usual ones. --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime \|Brian-Dawkins\|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. <cite>_OujiDoza_ posted [p:903345593] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>voldothegr8 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>And liberals didnt care until Trump was in office and they needed something else to blame on him.</quote> <cite>FLUFFYGERM posted...</cite> <quote>Leftists love useful victims. They don't actually care about the policies that actually eliminate poverty etc cuz those policies get rid of those victims.</quote> <cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>basically, yes. Obama did the same stuff as Trump but libs ignore it when Obama does it. when Trump does the same thing, they suddenly care and freak out</quote> All accurate</quote> The suspects... They are the usual ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrisbeeDude 06/15/18 9:29:45 PM #27:	Nomadic View posted... If you dont like it then dont fucking come here. Go to Canada. Your average trump gargler in a nutshell --- If you're not voting like a black woman, your opinion doesn't matter to me <cite>FrisbeeDude posted [p:903345697] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>If you dont like it then dont fucking come here. Go to Canada.</quote> Your average trump gargler in a nutshell</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 06/15/18 9:35:30 PM #28:	shockthemonkey posted... Other presidents didnt have to build new internment camps specifically to house children who have been separated from their parents. If youre going to make the claim that other presidents have been separating children to the same extent Trump has then fucking prove it. I have acknowledged this. And I stated that we wouldnt have the problem to this degree if previous presidents had been tougher on illegal immigration. Hopefully, some new policies will be implemented to fix this problem, but dont tell me that we should be more lax on illegal immigration itself. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:903345989] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Other presidents didnt have to build new internment camps specifically to house children who have been separated from their parents. If youre going to make the claim that other presidents have been separating children to the same extent Trump has then fucking prove it.</quote> I have acknowledged this. And I stated that we wouldnt have the problem to this degree if previous presidents had been tougher on illegal immigration. Hopefully, some new policies will be implemented to fix this problem, but dont tell me that we should be more lax on illegal immigration itself.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ic3Bullet 06/15/18 9:51:05 PM #30:	shockthemonkey posted... Ic3Bullet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Other presidents didnt have to build new internment camps specifically to house children who have been separated from their parents. If youre going to make the claim that other presidents have been separating children to the same extent Trump has then fucking prove it. I have acknowledged this. And I stated that we wouldnt have the problem to this degree if previous presidents had been tougher on illegal immigration. Hopefully, some new policies will be implemented to fix this problem, but dont tell me that we should be more lax on illegal immigration itself. So you lied your ass off and now youre trying to pretend youre being reasonable. Other presidents didnt do this on a massive scale. It wasnt policy to break up every single family regardless of whether theyre asylum seekers. No one else has put so many children into interment camps. The president is leading the charge on their mistreatment. You dont get to be intellectually dishonest and then play the lets blame someone other than the responsible party card. I didnt lie my ass off. I never said it was happening to the same number of people 20 years ago as it is today, just that it had been happening. I provided sources with context on post #19. Yes, it is happening more now as an unforeseen consequence of Trumps tougher immigration policies. Not because Trump is some evil demon who maliciously separates families. and that is the point that I have been trying to make. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:903346908] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Other presidents didnt have to build new internment camps specifically to house children who have been separated from their parents. If youre going to make the claim that other presidents have been separating children to the same extent Trump has then fucking prove it.</quote> I have acknowledged this. And I stated that we wouldnt have the problem to this degree if previous presidents had been tougher on illegal immigration. Hopefully, some new policies will be implemented to fix this problem, but dont tell me that we should be more lax on illegal immigration itself.</quote> So you lied your ass off and now youre trying to pretend youre being reasonable. Other presidents didnt do this on a massive scale. It wasnt policy to break up every single family regardless of whether theyre asylum seekers. No one else has put so many children into interment camps. The president is leading the charge on their mistreatment. You dont get to be intellectually dishonest and then play the lets blame someone other than the responsible party card.</quote> I didnt lie my ass off. I never said it was happening to the same number of people 20 years ago as it is today, just that it had been happening. I provided sources with context on post #19. Yes, it is happening more now as an unforeseen consequence of Trumps tougher immigration policies. Not because Trump is some evil demon who maliciously separates families. and that is the point that I have been trying to make.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ic3Bullet 06/15/18 9:58:00 PM #32:	shockthemonkey posted... Ic3Bullet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Ic3Bullet posted... shockthemonkey posted... Other presidents didnt have to build new internment camps specifically to house children who have been separated from their parents. If youre going to make the claim that other presidents have been separating children to the same extent Trump has then fucking prove it. I have acknowledged this. And I stated that we wouldnt have the problem to this degree if previous presidents had been tougher on illegal immigration. Hopefully, some new policies will be implemented to fix this problem, but dont tell me that we should be more lax on illegal immigration itself. So you lied your ass off and now youre trying to pretend youre being reasonable. Other presidents didnt do this on a massive scale. It wasnt policy to break up every single family regardless of whether theyre asylum seekers. No one else has put so many children into interment camps. The president is leading the charge on their mistreatment. You dont get to be intellectually dishonest and then play the lets blame someone other than the responsible party card. I didnt lie my ass off. I never said it was happening to the same number of people 20 years ago as it is today, just that it had been happening. I provided sources with context on post #19. Yes, it is happening more now as an unforeseen consequence of Trumps tougher immigration policies. Not because Trump is some evil demon who maliciously separates families. and that is the point that I have been trying to make. Unforeseen consequence?!? Its his fucking policy. What the fuck are you talking about? Oh my fucking God, no it isnt. Read post #19. Those laws, which I provided links and context for, have been in effect since 2002. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:903347313] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Other presidents didnt have to build new internment camps specifically to house children who have been separated from their parents. If youre going to make the claim that other presidents have been separating children to the same extent Trump has then fucking prove it.</quote> I have acknowledged this. And I stated that we wouldnt have the problem to this degree if previous presidents had been tougher on illegal immigration. Hopefully, some new policies will be implemented to fix this problem, but dont tell me that we should be more lax on illegal immigration itself.</quote> So you lied your ass off and now youre trying to pretend youre being reasonable. Other presidents didnt do this on a massive scale. It wasnt policy to break up every single family regardless of whether theyre asylum seekers. No one else has put so many children into interment camps. The president is leading the charge on their mistreatment. You dont get to be intellectually dishonest and then play the lets blame someone other than the responsible party card.</quote> I didnt lie my ass off. I never said it was happening to the same number of people 20 years ago as it is today, just that it had been happening. I provided sources with context on post #19. Yes, it is happening more now as an unforeseen consequence of Trumps tougher immigration policies. Not because Trump is some evil demon who maliciously separates families. and that is the point that I have been trying to make.</quote> Unforeseen consequence?!? Its his fucking policy. What the fuck are you talking about?</quote> Oh my fucking God, no it isnt. Read post #19. Those laws, which I provided links and context for, have been in effect since 2002.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MedzXVIII 06/15/18 10:05:18 PM #34:	Any parent who forces their children to break law by crossing international borders knowing separation is a fucked up parent. --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:903347737] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>Any parent who forces their children to break law by crossing international borders knowing separation is a fucked up parent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 06/15/18 10:05:57 PM #35:	2 wrongs make a wrong --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:903347780] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>2 wrongs make a wrong</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
MedzXVIII 06/15/18 10:07:41 PM #36:	Zikten posted... basically, yes. Obama did the same stuff as Trump but libs ignore it when Obama does it. when Trump does the same thing, they suddenly care and freak out I thought Obama was bringing in the illegals. Which is it? --- Hi <cite>MedzXVIII posted [p:903347879] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>basically, yes. Obama did the same stuff as Trump but libs ignore it when Obama does it. when Trump does the same thing, they suddenly care and freak out</quote> I thought Obama was bringing in the illegals. Which is it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/15/18 10:14:39 PM #37:	MedzXVIII posted... Zikten posted... basically, yes. Obama did the same stuff as Trump but libs ignore it when Obama does it. when Trump does the same thing, they suddenly care and freak out I thought Obama was bringing in the illegals. Which is it? he was very aggressive about deportation he also bombed alot of innocent people in the middle east, even weddings. and all dead males over like age 13 were counted as "enemy combatants" after the cleanup. <cite>Zikten posted [p:903348247] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>MedzXVIII posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Zikten posted...</cite> <quote>basically, yes. Obama did the same stuff as Trump but libs ignore it when Obama does it. when Trump does the same thing, they suddenly care and freak out</quote> I thought Obama was bringing in the illegals. Which is it?</quote> he was very aggressive about deportation he also bombed alot of innocent people in the middle east, even weddings. and all dead males over like age 13 were counted as "enemy combatants" after the cleanup.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jumi 06/15/18 10:18:21 PM #38:	"Yeah, sure I was going 109 mph in a 25 zone, but that guy's doing 110! Go stop him instead!" Nomadic View posted... If you dont like it then dont fucking come here. Go to Canada. lrn 2 geography --- XBL Gamertag: Rob Thorsman Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/robertvsilvers <cite>jumi posted [p:903348428] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>"Yeah, sure I was going 109 mph in a 25 zone, but that guy's doing 110! Go stop him instead!" <cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>If you dont like it then dont fucking come here. Go to Canada.</quote> lrn 2 geography</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 06/15/18 10:20:17 PM #39:	shockthemonkey posted... Ok so what policies do you think changed in order to cause our current situation? And I have acknowledged that. Being tougher on illegal immigration is what happened. But being tough on illegal immigration is a good thing. The children being separated is an unfortunate and unforeseen consequence. Now we're right back where we started, and I trust you're going to make me repeat something else for the 3rd time in this topic by continuing to bring up things I've already addressed. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:903348529] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote>Ok so what policies do you think changed in order to cause our current situation?</quote> And I have acknowledged that. Being tougher on illegal immigration is what happened. But being tough on illegal immigration is a good thing. The children being separated is an unfortunate and unforeseen consequence. Now we're right back where we started, and I trust you're going to make me repeat something else for the 3rd time in this topic by continuing to bring up things I've already addressed.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fin_Dawg_004 06/15/18 10:20:33 PM #40:	is this not a policy of this administration to serve as a deterrent? Didn't sessions confirm this? --- Dallas Cowboys : 6 - 6 Dallas Mavs : Dirk Nowitzki: 30, 527 points (6th all time) 892 from Wilt <cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted [p:903348539] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>is this not a policy of this administration to serve as a deterrent? Didn't sessions confirm this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Complete_Idi0t 06/15/18 10:21:31 PM #41:	If they were separated for 20 years how are they still children? <cite>Complete_Idi0t posted [p:903348592] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>If they were separated for 20 years how are they still children?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zikten 06/15/18 10:22:15 PM #42:	it doesn't work as a deterrent cause people don't know. they keep interviewing people caught and they say the same thing "I didn't know my kids could be taken away. I woudn;t have come if I knew" they need to put posters about it in south american cities if they want people to know <cite>Zikten posted [p:903348618] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>it doesn't work as a deterrent cause people don't know. they keep interviewing people caught and they say the same thing "I didn't know my kids could be taken away. I woudn;t have come if I knew" they need to put posters about it in south american cities if they want people to know</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
BLAKUboy 06/15/18 10:23:09 PM #43:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... is this not a policy of this administration to serve as a deterrent? Didn't sessions confirm this? Yes and yes. Then Trump decided to go against Sessions by blaming Democrats for the "horrible and cruel legislative agenda" that Sessions had literally just tried (and failed) to justify. --- Aeris dies if she takes more damage than her current HP - Panthera https://signavatar.com/26999_s.png <cite>BLAKUboy posted [p:903348667] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted...</cite> <quote>is this not a policy of this administration to serve as a deterrent? Didn't sessions confirm this?</quote> Yes and yes. Then Trump decided to go against Sessions by blaming Democrats for the "horrible and cruel legislative agenda" that Sessions had literally just tried (and failed) to justify.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 06/15/18 10:25:54 PM #44:	Fin_Dawg_004 posted... is this not a policy of this administration to serve as a deterrent? Didn't sessions confirm this? Sessions is a dumbass. Read post #19. Those laws have been in effect long before Trump was in office. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:903348801] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted...</cite> <quote>is this not a policy of this administration to serve as a deterrent? Didn't sessions confirm this?</quote> Sessions is a dumbass. Read post #19. Those laws have been in effect long before Trump was in office.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Complete_Idi0t 06/15/18 10:27:49 PM #45:	What genius picked sessions to be attourney general anyway? I bet whoever he is is very stable. <cite>Complete_Idi0t posted [p:903348894] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>What genius picked sessions to be attourney general anyway? I bet whoever he is is very stable.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 06/15/18 10:30:11 PM #46:	Ic3Bullet posted... The children being separated is an unfortunate and unforeseen consequence. How is it unforeseen if the law has been on the books for 20 years? At any rate, laws are not enforced with equal vigor; a law's presence "on the books" does not always mean it is (or should be) applied with full force to the letter of the law at all occasions. --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:903349012] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote> The children being separated is an unfortunate and unforeseen consequence. </quote> How is it unforeseen if the law has been on the books for 20 years? At any rate, laws are not enforced with equal vigor; a law's presence "on the books" does not always mean it is (or should be) applied with full force to the letter of the law at all occasions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Musourenka 06/15/18 10:31:17 PM #47:	BLAKUboy posted... Fin_Dawg_004 posted... is this not a policy of this administration to serve as a deterrent? Didn't sessions confirm this? Yes and yes. Then Trump decided to go against Sessions by blaming Democrats for the "horrible and cruel legislative agenda" that Sessions had literally just tried (and failed) to justify. And that is why Trump deserves blame. Appointed Sessions. Gaslighting the American people. And of course he won't do anything about it. --- Shooing away pigeons crapping on debate tables is not a violation of the pigeons' free speech. <cite>Musourenka posted [p:903349066] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>BLAKUboy posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted...</cite> <quote>is this not a policy of this administration to serve as a deterrent? Didn't sessions confirm this?</quote> Yes and yes. Then Trump decided to go against Sessions by blaming Democrats for the "horrible and cruel legislative agenda" that Sessions had literally just tried (and failed) to justify.</quote> And that is why Trump deserves blame. Appointed Sessions. Gaslighting the American people. And of course he won't do anything about it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ic3Bullet 06/15/18 10:32:59 PM #48:	Antifar posted... How is it unforeseen if the law has been on the books for 20 years? Because nobody has a computer for a brain that has every law memorized that was passed in the last 20 years. Also, 16 years is more accurate. My bad. <cite>Ic3Bullet posted [p:903349153] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>How is it unforeseen if the law has been on the books for 20 years?</quote> Because nobody has a computer for a brain that has every law memorized that was passed in the last 20 years. Also, 16 years is more accurate. My bad.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Fin_Dawg_004 06/15/18 10:48:51 PM #49:	Donald Trump supports child abuse --- Dallas Cowboys : 6 - 6 Dallas Mavs : Dirk Nowitzki: 30, 527 points (6th all time) 892 from Wilt <cite>Fin_Dawg_004 posted [p:903349883] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote>Donald Trump supports child abuse</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
YellowSUV 06/15/18 11:15:58 PM #50:	Ic3Bullet posted... @A_Good_Boy @YellowSUV @Iodine @YourDrunkFather https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/6/279 (2) the term unaccompanied alien child means a child who (A) has no lawful immigration status in the United States; (B) has not attained 18 years of age; and (C) with respect to whom-- (i) there is no parent or guardian in the United States; or (ii) no parent or legal guardian in the United States is available to provide care and physical custody. https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1232 (b)(3) Transfers of Unaccompanied Alien Children Except in the case of exceptional circumstances, any department or agency of the Federal Government that has an unaccompanied alien child in custody shall transfer the custody of such child to the Secretary of Health and Human Services not later than 72 hours after determining that such child is an unaccompanied alien child. You can read the dates at the bottom of those pages. The very latest one youll find on any law written on either of those pages is 2013, well before Trump was elected. Laws do not equal enforcement. Still haven't seen evidence of past administrations on purposely separating children from parents. --- We all live in a Yellow SUV! a Yellow SUV! <cite>YellowSUV posted [p:903351270] in So childre... [t:76718015]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ic3Bullet posted...</cite> <quote>@A_Good_Boy @YellowSUV @Iodine @YourDrunkFather https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/6/279 <quote>(2) the term unaccompanied alien child means a child who (A) has no lawful immigration status in the United States; (B) has not attained 18 years of age; and (C) with respect to whom-- (i) there is no parent or guardian in the United States; or (ii) no parent or legal guardian in the United States is available to provide care and physical custody.</quote> https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/8/1232 <quote>(b)(3) Transfers of Unaccompanied Alien Children Except in the case of exceptional circumstances, any department or agency of the Federal Government that has an unaccompanied alien child in custody shall transfer the custody of such child to the Secretary of Health and Human Services not later than 72 hours after determining that such child is an unaccompanied alien child.</quote> You can read the dates at the bottom of those pages. The very latest one youll find on any law written on either of those pages is 2013, well before Trump was elected.</quote> Laws do not equal enforcement. Still haven't seen evidence of past administrations on purposely separating children from parents.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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