Current Events > there is nothing wrong with guys who aren't "tall"

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like seriously i've been with a few guys who were like, 5'3" even and it wasn't even something i thought about negatively

if the women you're with are focused on your height, find different women who aren't shallow.

People should embrace you for who you are, and you are valuable and beautiful even if you don't meet society's standards for male attractiveness. Remember that.
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joestarrr posted...

People should embrace you for who you are, and you are valuable and beautiful even if you don't meet society's standards for male attractiveness. Remember that.

Aww you're a sweet girl
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You don't get it, shallow women are the only ones that are hot.
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Women that say they don't care about height are like women that say they don't care about dick size.

Protip: They do.
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next time you'll say dick size doesn't matter
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joestarrr posted...

find different women

This makes it sound so easy to find someone.
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Vegy posted...

next time you'll say dick size doesn't matter

it doesn't
for reasons i don't think i can get into on CE

KogaSteelfang posted...

joestarrr posted...

find different women

This makes it sound so easy to find someone.

no, i know it's not easy, but it's worth it.
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There are countless male celebrities and athletes who are relatively short who have wives. I've even seen plenty of good-looking women say that they would even consider 5'7" to be tall, or they aren't that concerned with height to begin with. There are women that are, but many of them aren't too stubborn about it.

I may have an average height, but I don't care about it that much. Thank you for the kind words, TC. You're a sweet person.
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Joestarrr sounds like she's easy to please. I need to find a broad like that.
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Cool but in the real world there are a lot of women who aren't you.

Flockaveli posted...

You don't get it, shallow women are the only ones that are hot.

This could not be farther from the truth. In most cases it's actually the 6 and under club who have this entitlement complex because either they're on a dating site that artificially boosts their perceived market value, or they want to seek out guys who are specimens because it elevates their own status, kind of like people who make $30,000 a year and drive a Lexus.

Johnny_Nutcase posted...

Joestarrr sounds like she's easy to please. I need to find a broad like that.

tbh i generally just want to be loved and cared about. that's about it because I'm relatively self sufficient otherwise

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Cool but in the real world there are a lot of women who aren't you.

Ehhh idk about that.
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Cool but in the real world there are a lot of women who aren't you.

Realistically, how many women out of ~3.5 billion have you to compare as a sample size?

The vast majority interact with a percentage of the entire pool that amounts to a rounding error. It's impossible to generalize.

You can either let your height limit and/or embitter you, or you can move past it.
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Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. You seem like a good person, TC
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The problem is that it's a subconscious, evolutionary type thing. I don't think most women actively discriminate against short guys, though some do obviously, but it's more that they are doing it without being aware of it. Some primal part of their brain is telling them not to be attracted to short guys for breeding reasons.
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nexigrams posted...

The problem is that it's a subconscious, evolutionary type thing. I don't think most women actively discriminate against short guys, though some do obviously, but it's more that they are doing it without being aware of it. Some primal part of their brain is telling them not to be attracted to short guys for breeding reasons.

Maybe I'm jacked up in terms of my evolution! : o

TeaMilk posted...

Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. You seem like a good person, TC

you do too, from what I've seen!
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One of my closest friends is probably 5'3 tops and I had a college roommate who was like 5 feet even probably. They both do better than I do >_< :P
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nexigrams posted...

The problem is that it's a subconscious, evolutionary type thing. I don't think most women actively discriminate against short guys, though some do obviously, but it's more that they are doing it without being aware of it. Some primal part of their brain is telling them not to be attracted to short guys for breeding reasons.

It's a good thing we're mammals that can operate outside of basic instinct due to higher cognitive abilities.

Like I get it. It probably affects it to a certain degree. But the multitude of other factors that contribute to human sexuality, attraction, and relationships all play a role too such that the obsessive fixation on one particular facet, one that can't be changed, isn't in anyone's best interest.
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BlameAnesthesia posted...

nexigrams posted...

The problem is that it's a subconscious, evolutionary type thing. I don't think most women actively discriminate against short guys, though some do obviously, but it's more that they are doing it without being aware of it. Some primal part of their brain is telling them not to be attracted to short guys for breeding reasons.

It's a good thing we're mammals that can operate outside of basic instinct due to higher cognitive abilities.

Like I get it. It probably affects it to a certain degree. But the multitude of other factors that contribute to human sexuality, attraction, and relationships all play a role too such that the obsessive fixation on one particular facet, one that can't be changed, isn't in anyone's best interest.

I was close friends with a chick for a long time. She was dating men shorter than I was. As soon as she got with a guy slightly taller than I am, the way she treated me did a 180 in a very short while.
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There's nothing shallow about preferring a taller man or someone who isn't a manlet. Of course, there's also nothing wrong with a guy who's 5 foot 3 either. The fact that you're calling women shallow for that is a bit disingenuous. If everyone liked the same things, it would be a boring world.

the average man is unfuckable

the average woman gets blasted by limitless chad dick
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I think it's less that girls care about "tall guys" and more that they care about guys "taller than them." I also don't see anything wrong with it. If someone doesn't find someone else attractive, it sucks, but why shame them for it and call them "shallow"? Sexual attraction is kind of important in a relationship.
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it is what it is
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there's no point in attacking me, what I'm saying is to find women who aren't hyper focused on an aspect like height.
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catboy0_0 posted...

I was close friends with a chick for a long time. She was dating men shorter than I was. As soon as she got with a guy slightly taller than I am, the way she treated me did a 180 in a very short while.

Yes, 100% attributed to your height.

Lmao. The insecurity is real.
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"Women are shallow for not liking short guys"

"No, women just have preferences"

"STOP ATTACKING ME YOU GUYS"

As a shorter man, I personally have had less problems with attracting women as Ive gotten older, most likely because Ive become much more confident and comfortable in my own skin as Ive aged. That being said, if my personality and charm wasnt there, then theres no way in hell I would be able to get with women as easily as taller men do, thats just a fact.
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Conflict posted...

joestarrr posted...

there's no point in attacking me, what I'm saying is to find women who aren't hyper focused on an aspect like height.

Nah it's not meant to be an attack on you. I'm just saying it's easier for shorter girls to be less concerned about height. They're more likely to be open minded because there's more guys taller than them

oh I'm not talking about your post.

I actually see what you mean and I can genuinely say that I don't know if I would feel differently if I was taller.

I was talking about my words being kinda twisted with regard to finding different women.
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BlameAnesthesia posted...

Yes, 100% attributed to your height.

Lmao. The insecurity is real.

to pretend it doesn't factor into women's subconscious routines while spouting feel good nonsense about how humans are above such things is just asinine.
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Leanaunfurled posted...

I think it's less that girls care about "tall guys" and more that they care about guys "taller than them." I also don't see anything wrong with it. If someone doesn't find someone else attractive, it sucks, but why shame them for it and call them "shallow"? Sexual attraction is kind of important in a relationship.

not shaming but ok

ThatMuttGuy posted...

"Women are shallow for not liking short guys"

"No, women just have preferences"

"STOP ATTACKING ME YOU GUYS"

again, that's not - actually nevermind I'm not gonna address this.
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joestarrr posted...

there's no point in attacking me, what I'm saying is to find women who aren't hyper focused on an aspect like height.

I agree with this. If they're focused on height, that's the can of worms opening up and at least guys get the heads up. Because after you go down that rabbit hole, you get "well you're tall but now I need you to change your hair to the way I like it" or "ohhh I only like this type of clothing, so you should wear that".

The bottom line is if height is a deal breaker for these women, they probably aren't worth the trouble.
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catboy0_0 posted...

BlameAnesthesia posted...

Yes, 100% attributed to your height.

Lmao. The insecurity is real.

to pretend it doesn't factor into women's subconscious routines while spouting feel good nonsense about how humans are above such things is just asinine.

To pretend its the biggest factor in why a man cant get a woman is just as asinine
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Johnny_Nutcase posted...

joestarrr posted...

there's no point in attacking me, what I'm saying is to find women who aren't hyper focused on an aspect like height.

I agree with this. If they're focused on height, that's the can of worms opening up and at least guys get the heads up. Because after you go down that rabbit hole, you get "well you're tall but now I need you to change your hair to the way I like it" or "ohhh I only like this type of clothing, so you should wear that".

The bottom line is if height is a deal breaker for these women, they probably aren't worth the trouble.

Thank you.

That's more or less the message I was trying to send, along with hopefully bringing some positivity here.
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catboy0_0 posted...

to pretend it doesn't factor into women's subconscious routines while spouting feel good nonsense about how humans are above such things is just asinine.

I never said it factors in zero. I'm laughing at the magnitude in which you all are attributing it.

There are so many other factors involved. No one is getting turned down based on height alone, except for a small subset of obviously shallow individuals. They are not the majority or define the rule. And since there are a lot of modifiable factors I suggest you stop looking for excuses which are probably related to deficits in character, not height.
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To make myself even clearer: there's nothing wrong with having preferences (duh), there's nothing wrong with liking what you like, and attraction is important (super duh)

I am saying that there shouldn't be shame in being a short man, and that people should feel good about themselves and find people that are attracted regardless of height.
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BlameAnesthesia posted...

No one is getting turned down based on height alone, except for a small subset of obviously shallow individuals.

That's a pretty bold statement when many people actually have experienced this and people have been pretty vocal about heightism for the longest time

Yep. I dont think height is the biggest obstacle in men not being able to attract women, but theres certainly plenty of women out there who would never date a man below a certain height
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I fully endorse this topic
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Conflict posted...

That's a pretty bold statement when many people actually have experienced this and people have been pretty vocal about heightism for the longest time

The effect social media has on people skews our perception of norms. I'm not saying it's never happened. I'm saying with as wide as the dating pool is there is a relative surplus of where this isn't the sole and uncompromising factor.

Willing to bet a handful of bad bar and/or club scene experiences and a couple dozen low-effort Tinder pings is what people are basing this entire phenomenon on. In other words, very narrow life experience.

I guarantee it has more to do with self-esteem. It's the underlying issue here.
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Conflict posted...

Like go read some of the shit that gets posted on r/short. It's pretty wild what a lot of short dudes have to experience

"go to selection bias: the subreddit"
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BlameAnesthesia posted...

Conflict posted...

Like go read some of the shit that gets posted on r/short. It's pretty wild what a lot of short dudes have to experience

"go to selection bias: the subreddit"

You are definitely severely downplaying how often it happens so you can stay on that high horse of yours.
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Gee you would think when millions of men around the world for millenniums have anectdotally found it harder for shorter men to attract women that there would be something to it, but nope, its all self-esteem - brilliant reasoning
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While it is incredibly important to consider the possible reasons for this phenomenon, it is equally important to promote body positivity and encourage people to have a healthy self esteem.
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