Current Events > Nothing will change when Net Neutrality goes away

(+) Yeah! (+)

Bump.

One more day until we find out
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Here's another question: if the ISPs were planning to throttle sites, have paywalls, etc. why hasn't there been any info or rumors yet?
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Good thing I live in California.
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Faster speeds pls
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Damn_Underscore posted...

pinky0926 posted...

Your entire argument can be compared to cable TV basically. Enjoy your bronze package internet subscription that doesn't include the Premium Youtube Add On for only $4.99 extra per month!

This won't happen. The support for Net Neutrality will go from 83% or whatever to 99.9% and Net Neutrality will be brought back right away.

What I meant was, nothing is stopping ISPs from increasing monthly rates for internet service right now.

Too bad it doesnt work like that numbnuts

Its also incredibly asinine to think all of this is going to happen the day its repealed. Itll probably be months to a year before the real effects are felt
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lol why are so many people who disagree just throwing insults
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Damn_Underscore posted...

I'm asking an honest question.

lmao
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Damn_Underscore posted...

lol why are so many people who disagree just throwing insults

*valid arguments given throughout topic*

*ignores them, asks same shit*

*one guy calls him numbnuts for being incredibly daft*

Lol wow so many insults
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Are my arguments not valid?
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Not particularly
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Again, it's not going to be some overnight change. Think of the boiling frog metaphor. They'll be shady and change whatever they can slowly over time and if they happen to get caught there would be no legal repercussions, and people living in monopoly areas would have no other options to switch to if they don't agree with it.

We dont need some Europeans union people putting us on watch lists for being conservatives. That whole globalist spy on you movement is gone.
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Fuparulez posted...

It's going to be awful! People who are willing to pay more will have access to better service! People who don't want to pay as much will have more options! Consumer choice is a TERRIBLE thing! Why should Internet service be like... literally everything else?

We're not getting more options. We're having options taken away from us and then sold back to us piecemeal.

Like you know that old meme about how a game in the 90s was a burger and a game in 2010 is a bun and the burger is DLC and the lettuce is another DLC and the condiments are microtransactions?

That's literally what's happening without Net Neutrality. Calling that fucking shit more options is disgusting at its core.
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Wariodorf posted...

southcoast09 posted...

We dont need some Europeans putting us on watch lists for being conservatives. That whole globalist spy on you movement is gone.

This is probably the dumbest post I've seen all year.

stick around
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Well the ISPs have until the next Democrat President at the latest, so if they want to ruin the internet they better hurry.
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Phantom_Nook posted...

Good thing I live in California.

If California and other states pass Net Neutrality on their own, and if ISPs want to slowly ruin the internet, it will eventually be noticeably better in those states and people will recognize this.

It's great that California has their own Net Neutrality, because we can now see what difference Net Neutrality actually makes.
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Why does CE keeo taking trolls seriously
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DezDroppedFreak posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

lol why are so many people who disagree just throwing insults

*valid arguments given throughout topic*

*ignores them, asks same shit*

*one guy calls him numbnuts for being incredibly daft*

Lol wow so many insults

hes using all the trolls gimmicks
i dont think he missed any
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According to many posters on this board, disagreeing with your agenda = trolling
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Mods, can we please go back to whrn posting blatant lies was considered trolling? There has never been "before net neutrality". Nn has been the default since before the internet was even available to the public. Anyone who uses that phrase is being intentionally dishonest, and it's only purpose is to derail the actual conversation.
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Medussa posted...

Nn has been the default since before the internet was even available to the public.

That is absolutely not the fucking case. Anyone old enough to remember dial up services like AOL, Prodigy, CompuServe, etc will fucking tell you there were massive differences in what you were allowed to access.
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Medussa posted...

There has never been "before net neutrality". Nn has been the default since before the internet was even available to the public.

Wrong.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Net_neutrality_in_the_United_States

In 2005, under Republican Chair Kathleen Abernathy, the Federal Communications Commission adopted network neutrality principles "to preserve and promote the vibrant and open character of the Internet as the telecommunications marketplace enters the broadband age."

Maybe the idea of net neutrality has always existed, but it wasn't official policy until then.
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Maybe the idea of net neutrality has always existed, but it wasn't official policy until then.

meaningless distinction. it was the de facto policy instead of de jure, but it was still how the internet worked.
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Medussa posted...

meaningless distinction. it was the de facto policy instead of de jure, but it was still how the internet worked.

It literally wasn't.
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it absolutely was.
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Medussa posted...

it absolutely was.

How long have you been using the internet?
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1995.
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Medussa posted...

1995.

What isp? AOL?
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Medussa posted...

1995.

What isp? AOL?

Adelphia, iirc. actual internet. 90% sure AOL in the early 90s didn't connect to the web, only usenet. that's not censoring or throttling, that's just not offering a service.

edit: also, sorry about spotty responses; now at work.
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Medussa posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

Medussa posted...

1995.

What isp? AOL?

Adelphia, iirc. actual internet. 90% sure AOL in the early 90s didn't connect to the web, only usenet. that's not censoring or throttling, that's just not offering a service.

By 95 all providers were on the internet. The first ones started connecting at 94. The thing is there actually wasn't much worth visiting in 94.

But that's besides the point.

Back then there were literal entire MMOs that you could only play if you had a specific provider. Some website content was restricted, but they were inconsequential when they were restricted. What's not inconsequential is the fact that they were able to restrict them at all.
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For example: this is from 2014

https://imgur.com/aerFQCF

But that's not the only fucked thing they've done.

Employees at ookla's speedtest have talked about how ISPs deliberately boost traffic bandwidth for their website so when you complain about your fucking shit being slow the ISPs support tell you to go there and are all "LOOKS FINE TO ME"

Ookla tries to combat this by doing things like fucking with their IP addresses but it's a losing Battle.
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I mean if they try to ruin the internet, even if they try to do it so slowly that no one will notice until it's "too late", it will never be too late because Net Neutrality can and will be brought back.
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Tyranthraxus posted...

Back then there were literal entire MMOs that you could only play if you had a specific provider. Some website content was restricted, but they were inconsequential when they were restricted. What's not inconsequential is the fact that they were able to restrict them at all.

the first point is irrelevant. that's not net neutrality. that's not being able to play your Sony exclusive game on your Switch. the second point is valid, but only if it's true.
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Medussa posted...

Tyranthraxus posted...

Back then there were literal entire MMOs that you could only play if you had a specific provider. Some website content was restricted, but they were inconsequential when they were restricted. What's not inconsequential is the fact that they were able to restrict them at all.

the first point is irrelevant. that's not net neutrality. that's not being able to play your Sony exclusive game on your Switch. the second point is valid, but only if it's true.

Incorrect. I can play whatever switch MMO I want with Comcast or Verizon or AT&T.

There were literally MMOs that you could only play with AOL or Prodigy
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because they didn't use the internet. it was on proprietary AOL networks.
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The Sherman Act and Clayton Act make these sort discriminatory practices illegal.

END OF FUCkING STORY.

AlisLandale posted...

Fuparulez posted...

It's going to be awful! People who are willing to pay more will have access to better service! People who don't want to pay as much will have more options! Consumer choice is a TERRIBLE thing! Why should Internet service be like... literally everything else?

ScazarMeltex posted...

Yes we can clearly trust large corporations, who have monopolies in large areas of the country, whose only real goal is profit motive to not fuck over consumers.

Yet somehow that didn't happen PRIOR to "net neutrality."

This and netflix really should be all that is needed to be said.
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How's everyone's internet?
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Ok, so yesterday was apparently the last day that Net Neutrality existed, not the first day it went away.

So how is your internet now?
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Damn_Underscore posted...

Ok, so yesterday was apparently the last day that Net Neutrality existed, not the first day it went away.

So how is your internet now?

It's working the same for me. I live in California, though, so it's likely not to change much for me.
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Wariodorf posted...

Damn_Underscore posted...

Ok, so yesterday was apparently the last day that Net Neutrality existed, not the first day it went away.

So how is your internet now?

You're ridiculous if you think change would happen immediately.

Indeed ISPs are scum, but not that stupid.
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Then when will it change?
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