Poll of the Day > Lebron James

(+) Yeah! (+)

People who say Lebron is the greatest never saw Jordan play.
---

Lequitter James
---

im looking forward to the next super team he creates

Sore loser walked out today after the game not even shaking hands, and has been freaking out at his own team during the games.
He doesn't deserve any more championships, lol
---

Ferarri619 posted...

Sore loser walked out today after the game not even shaking hands

He shook hands when getting subbed out

Jordan isnt the greatest. Arguably 3rd or 4th

But yeah Jordan was better
---

I didnt even realise Cleveland just got swept lol

Hes probably having flashbacks of the San Antonio series haha
---

FatalAccident posted...

Jordan isnt the greatest. Arguably 3rd or 4th

But yeah Jordan was better

Whos your top 5 Fatal? Personally I dont include people I havent watched on live tv, so for your modern era Id go

LeBron
Jordan
Shaq
Kobe
Duncan

LeBron James is hands down easily the greatest basketball player of all time.

Hes a crybaby flopping injury faking bitch who ruined the nba by joining two other superstars, but that doesnt change how amazing he is at basketball.

If you put every basketball player ever in their prime and say pick one player to build a team around, and you have one year to win a championship I pick Shaq. No questions asked. Easy decision.

If you say, pick any player from their rookie year to build a team around for their entire career the answer is easily lebron. The dude never gets hurt and he is by far the most efficient player ever.

And I fucking hate him. I love Kobe. I love Jordan. I love Hakeem and Kareem and Magic. But I cant deny his greatness.

I also think finals records are bullshit. Lebron has been to 8 finals in a row (or is it nine?) but hes been in the eastern conference the whole time.. would he have lost earlier if conferences werent a thing? Idk. Probably.

Idk. There is so much more to who is the greatest basketball player ever than just basic numbers. Its why its my favorite sport. I just wish more people would look at it like this.

Also Im drunk.

MICHALECOLE posted...

Also Im drunk.

I can tell.
---

Revelation34 posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

Also Im drunk.

I can tell.

Deny what Im saying though

Give me an argument. Lebron has never been smart enough to stay with the same team and build like Jordan did. Hes never been smart to stick with the same (hof) coach that Jordan has.

But as far as actual basketball talent goes? Lebron does everything Jordan did but more and more efficiently. Hes bigger, hes stronger, hes faster, and he never left to play another sport. He will end will more points, assists, steals, rebounds, and blocks than Jordan. He will end will more points than anybody ever. And he did it in a harder era.

Now if you put Jordan in our era with the medial advances we have? With the planes we have? With the steroids we have? Would he be even better than he was? Definitely. But he wasnt. And that almost makes him more impressive.

But I can only use the evidence I have in front of me. And my evidence shows me that Kobe was the hardest working player ever, Jordan was the greatest shooting guard ever, and lebron is the greatest basketball player I have ever seen.

JazzMasterZero posted...

FatalAccident posted...

Jordan isnt the greatest. Arguably 3rd or 4th

But yeah Jordan was better

Whos your top 5 Fatal? Personally I dont include people I havent watched on live tv, so for your modern era Id go

LeBron
Jordan
Shaq
Kobe
Duncan

My top 5 fav or who I think are the top 5 greatest? Cos thats two diff things

Greatest I think are Kareem, Bill Russell, MJ, Wilt, and Kobe.

My fav are Ginobili, Kawhi, LeBron, and Kobe

That kid Dejounte Murray is really fun to watch too though
---

JazzMasterZero posted...

FatalAccident posted...

Jordan isnt the greatest. Arguably 3rd or 4th

But yeah Jordan was better

Whos your top 5 Fatal? Personally I dont include people I havent watched on live tv, so for your modern era Id go

LeBron
Jordan
Shaq
Kobe
Duncan

What if there are people who have not watched 90's or early 00's basketball.
Should we just not count those players either?
---

Im pretty sure he said personally, implying were free to do whatever we like
---

MICHALECOLE posted...

And he did it in a harder era.

No no no no no. I pretty much agree with everything else though.
---

HelIWithoutSin posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

And he did it in a harder era.

No no no no no. I pretty much agree with everything else though.

This warriors team broke basketball. They are the greatest team that has ever played basketball. It is a harder era.

Its sad, but true.

MICHALECOLE posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

And he did it in a harder era.

No no no no no. I pretty much agree with everything else though.

This warriors team broke basketball. They are the greatest team that has ever played basketball. It is a harder era.

Its sad, but true.

No, they're a harder team, but the era is so much softer and easier than the 80's and 90's. You said it yourself, the east is a joke and it's been that way for what seems like a decade. Lebron's been tearing them up and racking up the numbers all this time.
---

HelIWithoutSin posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

And he did it in a harder era.

No no no no no. I pretty much agree with everything else though.

This warriors team broke basketball. They are the greatest team that has ever played basketball. It is a harder era.

Its sad, but true.

No, they're a harder team, but the era is so much softer and easier than the 80's and 90's. You said it yourself, the east is a joke and it's been that way for what seems like a decade. Lebron's been tearing them up and racking up the numbers all this time.

The east is a joke, and the era is softer, but if you want to say that lebron couldnt handle the harder era, youre wrong. I honestly feel like lebron would benefit from being in the more physical era. If he could play defense the way he does while also being able to fuck people up, it would only improve his game.

The east has been garbage save from three or four teams lebrons entire career, and that is why finals records are bullshit, but that doesnt change who he is as a player.

This isn't a harder era lol, from what I can see 90's was harder.

Remember the 90s East had the bulls, indiana, and the knicks to some extent. The West still had the lakers, spurs, blazers, and jazz.

Right now the east is just wherever LeBron goes and it's absolutely laughable. The west is just the warriors, rockets, and spurs.

It's definitely not harder now, especially the way the game is called.
---

The thing is I feel bad for him, look how beat up he is in this video. He's almost looking like what more could I have done? what do you want me to do .__.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFMmWW-xYCw" data-time="

All he can do to have a chance is go to the rockets, but idk how that'd work. Might take two seasons to put it all together. Struggling to see him in a rockets uniform though, and that'd just be ring chasing
---

FatalAccident posted...

The thing is I feel bad for him, look how beat up he is in this video. He's almost looking like what more could I have done? what do you want me to do .__.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFMmWW-xYCw" data-time="

All he can do to have a chance is go to the rockets, but idk how that'd work. Might take two seasons to put it all together. Struggling to see him in a rockets uniform though, and that'd just be ring chasing

He basically carried the team time and again to the finals and couldn't get any support. Ring chasing is what the best will do when other teams do the same. Golden State with Durant is no different, they wouldn't be there without Durant and won't be there if he leaves.

No that's not true though is it. Golden State doesn't need Durant to win championships, they've shown they can do it before.

Given another 4 year stretch of LeBron vs. Golden State minus Durant I'd say the Warriors come out with more chips.

I hate the idea of ring chasing but at the same time I don't wanna be in a league where LeBron doesn't win another title.
---

FatalAccident posted...

The thing is I feel bad for him, look how beat up he is in this video. He's almost looking like what more could I have done? what do you want me to do .__.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFMmWW-xYCw" data-time="

All he can do to have a chance is go to the rockets, but idk how that'd work. Might take two seasons to put it all together. Struggling to see him in a rockets uniform though, and that'd just be ring chasing

Hes been ring chasing since he went to Miami, and I feel like it is a slight on his career that he didnt just stay with a team and try to build around himself.

And on top of that, he got people like tristian Thompson and jr smith paid, when if he had been more patient he could have had Chris Paul or boogie cousins or Gordon Hayward.

But the nba is so much different than it has ever been. The players have much more power, and the great players have all the power, whether they know what to do with it or not.

And hes in a lose lose situation in the next offseason because he either goes to the rockets and its like okay you just made another super team, or he goes to a team building and is patient like he should have been and will lose again, just leading people to slight him even more.

A smart lebron has 6-7 rings. This impatient lebron we have is 3-6 in the finals.

MICHALECOLE posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

HelIWithoutSin posted...

MICHALECOLE posted...

And he did it in a harder era.

No no no no no. I pretty much agree with everything else though.

This warriors team broke basketball. They are the greatest team that has ever played basketball. It is a harder era.

Its sad, but true.

No, they're a harder team, but the era is so much softer and easier than the 80's and 90's. You said it yourself, the east is a joke and it's been that way for what seems like a decade. Lebron's been tearing them up and racking up the numbers all this time.

The east is a joke, and the era is softer, but if you want to say that lebron couldnt handle the harder era, youre wrong. I honestly feel like lebron would benefit from being in the more physical era. If he could play defense the way he does while also being able to fuck people up, it would only improve his game.

The east has been garbage save from three or four teams lebrons entire career, and that is why finals records are bullshit, but that doesnt change who he is as a player.

I'm not saying he couldn't handle it. I'm saying this era is so soft and he's feasting on it. His offensive game definitely would've taken a step back in the 90's simply because the league then was all about defense, milking the clock, and grinding it out.
---

Well wherever he goes we know it's not long term. So that probably rules out Los Angeles and Philadelphia cause they'd have to gut their entire team full of young prospects which would be pointless just to have LeBron for a season or two.

Houston is the only thing that makes sense, or possibly san antonio. I don't care either way if he comes to the spurs at this point cos we can probably beat golden state without him.

Team building anywhere other than the lakers/philadelphia is viable too but again would need patience which I don't think he has rn
---

FatalAccident posted...

No that's not true though is it. Golden State doesn't need Durant to win championships, they've shown they can do it before.

Given another 4 year stretch of LeBron vs. Golden State minus Durant I'd say the Warriors come out with more chips.

I hate the idea of ring chasing but at the same time I don't wanna be in a league where LeBron doesn't win another title.

Golden state getting Durant ruined both GSs and Durants legacy for me. GS has a chance to be the greatest team ever naturally built, and Durant had a chance to win a legitimate ring against one of the greatest teams ever and possibly the greatest player ever. We all know that Westbrook is a cancer, but his ability can not be denied. Durant was one win away from topping the 73-9 warriorsc and instead of coming back stronger the next year and finishing the job, he copped out and joined them.

Jordan and Kobe never would have done that. Ever. Jordan would have never joined the pistons. Kobe would have never joined the Celtics.

And while lebron won his ring against golden state on a bullshit suspension, it still was the most impressive finals win I have ever seen.

LeBron needs to go to Golden State next year and that team needs to go 82-0 then 16-0.
Also, RIP NBA.
---

MICHALECOLE posted...

FatalAccident posted...

No that's not true though is it. Golden State doesn't need Durant to win championships, they've shown they can do it before.

Given another 4 year stretch of LeBron vs. Golden State minus Durant I'd say the Warriors come out with more chips.

I hate the idea of ring chasing but at the same time I don't wanna be in a league where LeBron doesn't win another title.

Golden state getting Durant ruined both GSs and Durants legacy for me. GS has a chance to be the greatest team ever naturally built, and Durant had a chance to win a legitimate ring against one of the greatest teams ever and possibly the greatest player ever. We all know that Westbrook is a cancer, but his ability can not be denied. Durant was one win away from topping the 73-9 warriorsc and instead of coming back stronger the next year and finishing the job, he copped out and joined them.

Jordan and Kobe never would have done that. Ever. Jordan would have never joined the pistons. Kobe would have never joined the Celtics.

And while lebron won his ring against golden state on a bullshit suspension, it still was the most impressive finals win I have ever seen.

yeah....i always kinda hate when players just sign with a super team to get an easy ring instead of staying where they're at and working with what they got

it just shows they feel like to them this career isn't going anywhere and if they wanna get to the top they gotta sign with a super duper team

4 years straight of cavs vs warriors has turned the nba into a boring dumpster fire
---

NightMareBunny posted...

i always kinda hate when players just sign with a super team to get an easy ring instead of staying where they're at and working with what they got

but at this point what more does lebron have to prove?

He's built a team from scratch in cleveland and they won a championship, hes won on a super team in miami, hes got his stats, at this point hes just waiting out his retirement

might as well grab a few chips on your way out the door no?
---