Current Events > McDonald's: People order more from kiosks, giant rollout ahead

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Good. A kiosk knows the difference between a sausage biscuit with egg and a sausage egg and cheese. Also knows the difference between a sausage mcmuffin and a sausage egg mcmuffin. Also won't overcharge me by 25 cents because I asked for no mayo.

Sucks for the three or four decent McD cashiers but over here on the other side of the counter, we could not be happier.
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Asherlee10 posted...

Can you expand on that more? Sorry - this is not an area that I have a lot of knowledge.

I'm no expert either frankly. And to the extent that I support it is largely based off where we're at technologically. I don't support it because of ideological reasons.

I don't have the exact rates or anything. Also, there's the issue population growth. It's philosophizing than actual policy in my mind.
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It really does just come down to eliminating human interaction. Shop on Amazon, order through kiosk's, date online, self checkout, and forever with a phone in your face. I wrote this from my smart phone so...part of the problem lol
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Spooking posted...

aka the rich pay for everything while people who make under... say $30k pay nothing. Robin Hood tax rate which has one group pay for everything while another leeches.

And yet you seem just fine with the rich being the leeches like they are now and especially going to be in the future under this administration you hypocrite.
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Spooking posted...

tremain07 posted...

Spooking posted...

aka the rich pay for everything while people who make under... say $30k pay nothing. Robin Hood tax rate which has one group pay for everything while another leeches.

And yet you seem just fine with the rich being the leeches like they are now and especially going to be in the future under this administration you hypocrite.

What? How the hell are the rich leeches? They pay at least 70% of the taxes in the US.

he's just mad because he's got nothing and doesn't want to get a damn job

Lol @ mcds not realizing, good food will sell itself
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Spooking posted...

Lordgold666 posted...

Lol @ mcds not realizing, good food will sell itself

Imagine the taste of a McDs burger that was never touched by human hands.

Might actually start to look like the shit they advertise. That said, if they go full automation, there really should be laws forcing them to use pics of the actual product instead of bull shots.

I imagine the rates of food poisoning is going to go down too. Robots aren't going to drop your shit, under cook it, leave it out for too long, etc unless programmed to.
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...

Robots aren't going to drop your shit, under cook it, leave it out for too long, etc unless programmed to.

Challenge accepted!
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LMAO called it, keep whining and striking and protesting for $15ph and here's what happened.
I've been using their mobile app for months now, way cheaper (coupons) and I don't have to explain to some idiot kid 5 times how I want my burger.

Sorry cashiers, you're about to become obsolete.

I, for one, welcome our new AI overlords.
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You guys do realize that self checkout has been a thing for several years, right? but by all means keep on with your irrational hate for fast food workers...
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TheVipaGTS posted...

You guys do realize that self checkout has been a thing for several years, right? but by all means keep on with your irrational hate for fast food workers...

Irrational? If entitled fast food workers had their way they'd create a massive inflation problem.
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This sucks. McDonalds is a good first job for HS students.
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voldothegr8 posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

You guys do realize that self checkout has been a thing for several years, right? but by all means keep on with your irrational hate for fast food workers...

Irrational? If entitled fast food workers had their way they'd create a massive inflation problem.

Everyone wants more money. Calm down.
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voldothegr8 posted...

they'd create a massive inflation problem.

No. Just no. The price of fast people would go up a few cents but that's not a massive inflation problem.
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voldothegr8 posted...

Irrational?

voldothegr8 posted...

they'd create a massive inflation problem.

Yes, that is incredibly irrational lol.
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Hopefully a Purell station is located right next to the kiosk
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A study by Purdue already proved that all McDonald's needed to do to pay a $15 wage was increase the cost of each item by 17 cents.

This would keep the profit margins the same too.
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Villain posted...

A study by Purdue already proved that all McDonald's needed to do to pay a $15 wage was increase the cost of each item by 17 cents.

This would keep the profit margins the same too.

Really? That would be awesome.
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Also, are the prices at McDonald's going down with the implementation of self ordering kiosks?
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I like the kiosks. They are faster and you won't also annoy a cashier if you are just trying to check out what is on the menu. It is easier and less awkward that trying to look at the menu signs while standing in front of the cashiers.
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Villain posted...

Also, are the prices at McDonald's going down with the implementation of self ordering kiosks?

ahahahahahaha
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chill02 posted...

Villain posted...

Also, are the prices at McDonald's going down with the implementation of self ordering kiosks?

ahahahahahaha

Exactly.
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sounds great to me
comes at a cost though. if humans are still the one bagging food, there's a chance i won't get everything i ordered. on the flipside, i can't haggle the kiosks to give me tons of extra sauces.
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Spooking posted...

Peter_Giffyndor posted...

LMAO called it, keep whining and striking and protesting for $15ph and here's what happened.
I've been using their mobile app for months now, way cheaper (coupons) and I don't have to explain to some idiot kid 5 times how I want my burger.

Sorry cashiers, you're about to become obsolete.

I do feel bad for the cashiers who just wanted work experience. They would work there for about six months, and then find another job or head off to college. Not demand $15 an hour or else threaten to strike.

I'll agree with that. Sucks forbthise that use it as it is intended: part time, temporary, gain experience etc. It's the lifers that want $40k per year flipping burgers that fucked it up for them.

Villain posted...

A study by Purdue already proved that all McDonald's needed to do to pay a $15 wage was increase the cost of each item by 17 cents.

This would keep the profit margins the same too.

I wonder how they accounted for the part where increasing the prices of stuff actually earns them less money.
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DevsBro posted...

Villain posted...

A study by Purdue already proved that all McDonald's needed to do to pay a $15 wage was increase the cost of each item by 17 cents.

This would keep the profit margins the same too.

I wonder how they accounted for the part where increasing the prices of stuff actually earns them less money.

The 17 cents increase would go directly to employee wages
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Umm are they not aware that were kind of doing the whole CREATE jobs thing?
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Also, a lot of you don't realize that companies we're going to push towards automation regardless.

Now they have a scapegoat which the DDIQ fall for.
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Villain posted...

DevsBro posted...

Villain posted...

A study by Purdue already proved that all McDonald's needed to do to pay a $15 wage was increase the cost of each item by 17 cents.

This would keep the profit margins the same too.

I wonder how they accounted for the part where increasing the prices of stuff actually earns them less money.

The 17 cents increase would go directly to employee wages

I guess with the decrease in business, there aren't as many customers to serve and they can lay off a few employees.
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southcoast09 posted...

Umm are they not aware that were kind of doing the whole CREATE jobs thing?

It it even a 1:1 ratio where the status quo is maintained?
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Like i said, self checkout has existed for decades. many stores already implement it. having fewer cashiers and more self checkout kiosks hasn't dropped the price of goods at all...so i still don't understand why people suddenly feel so strongly in support of it when it comes to McDonalds. This has nothing to do with raising wages. its already been something that's been taking place for years. They'll install many more kiosks and the price of their menu will either go up or stay the same. we're all losing lol.
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DevsBro posted...

Villain posted...

DevsBro posted...

Villain posted...

A study by Purdue already proved that all McDonald's needed to do to pay a $15 wage was increase the cost of each item by 17 cents.

This would keep the profit margins the same too.

I wonder how they accounted for the part where increasing the prices of stuff actually earns them less money.

The 17 cents increase would go directly to employee wages

I guess with the decrease in business, there aren't as many customers to serve and they can lay off a few employees.

You really think they'd suffer with a 55 cent or so increase on a combo meal?
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Villain posted...

DevsBro posted...

Villain posted...

DevsBro posted...

Villain posted...

A study by Purdue already proved that all McDonald's needed to do to pay a $15 wage was increase the cost of each item by 17 cents.

This would keep the profit margins the same too.

I wonder how they accounted for the part where increasing the prices of stuff actually earns them less money.

The 17 cents increase would go directly to employee wages

I guess with the decrease in business, there aren't as many customers to serve and they can lay off a few employees.

You really think they'd suffer with a 55 cent or so increase on a combo meal?

They mathematically have to. If they can charge 55 cents more and still sell the same quantities, why arenthey already?
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DevsBro posted...

They mathematically have to. If they can charge 55 cents more and still sell the same quantities, why arenthey already?

they've been steadily raising prices constantly. you just don't notice it. Their menu costs more today than it did 2, 3, 5 years ago...
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Exactly. They could implement it gradually.
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Why do you think I didn't notice?

They're increasing prices because they're following the change in the equilibrium price. Charging seventeen cents more is exceeding equilibrium price and decreasing revenue.
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Remember with Ford paid his factory workers better and they ended up buying cars and it was a feedback effect that helped the economy?

Fuck him.
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Not that I'm against these sort of things, but it seems more people look at these types of innovations more as a "fuck you" to poor people than great technical innovations. Some people just get so happy over this stuff just because people will lose jobs. Then they shoot down anything that might help these future unemployed people as "socialism" or something.

What is wrong with some people? Why do you worry more for big corporations than your fellow common person?
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DevsBro posted...

Why do you think I didn't notice?

They're increasing prices because they're following the change in the equilibrium price. Charging seventeen cents more is exceeding equilibrium price and decreasing revenue.

And they're still raising prices. They're charging you more for a chicken sandwich today than they did in 2015 and it doesn't line up with the cost of production for that chicken. You're so worried about "if they raise wages they have to raise prices and that'll affect me!"....But they're already doing it to you.
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yoshirulezz1 posted...

Will there be drive thru kiosks too? It would make the whole process x100000 faster

Faster for you and I and I'm sure all of CE, but man I can imagine, some of the people I'm behind in the drive thru barely can figure out how to communicate what they want to the speaker, I can see them just staring blankly at a kiosk waiting for it to speak to them or something.

But yeah. People actually go inside to order and McDonald's? I can't remember the last time I've been inside one. >_>
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Southernfatman posted...

Not that I'm against these sort of things, but it seems more people look at these types of innovations more as a "fuck you" to poor people than great technical innovations. Some people just get so happy over this stuff just because people will lose jobs. Then they shoot down anything that might help these future unemployed people as "socialism" or something.

What is wrong with some people? Why do you worry more for big corporations than your fellow common person?

Welfare will go up so we'll be paying for it anyway
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Southernfatman posted...

but it seems more people look at these types of innovations more as a "fuck you" to poor people than great technical innovations.

Not a fuck you to poor people, a fuck you to people who refuse to better themselves in a country where it's pretty easy for self betterment.
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Southernfatman posted...

What is wrong with some people? Why do you worry more for big corporations than your fellow common person?

I'm a MCD shareholder
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