Current Events > God seems to be a dick based on the Bible

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So many stories that make you ask... "What the fuck is wrong with you?" Seriously.
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Satan kills way fewer people than God does in the bible. Lmao
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God is actually a demon if you think about it.
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Wetterdew posted...

Satan kills way fewer people than God does in the bible. Lmao

I never thought about that...
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Old testament God needed a Snickers
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Yeah the OT and NT are vastly different.
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scorpion41 posted...

Yeah the OT and NT are vastly different.

He's awful in both

Also, most Christians don't just outright dismiss the old testament. They pick parts to heed
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Satan was the good guy all along
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God really changed after he had a kid
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Gnosticism had it right all along...

JustMyOpinion posted...

In one part of the OT he kills a guy for refusing to finish inside his deceased brother's widow.

lmfao yes that was a funny one.

Just look at it like OT God -really- cared about the survival of mankind.

Think about the context of when these books were written. In the OT times, people were dying of disease, of murder, of wild animal attacks like crazy. The average life span was much shorter. If you didn't have it in you to make a baby with your dead brother's wife, then you didn't care about the survival of mankind in his eyes.
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You really want to see how big of a dick god is, go check out medical conditions and diseases books.
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God must be testing me with a trial. how long i can go on with my bad back before i lose my mind :(.
it's already on week 1.
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The OT was written by angsty old incels.
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Poiuyt posted...

Gnosticism had it right all along...

Yeah, pretty much.
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Well, I mean, if God exists, then he's god, and kinda allowed to be. We're just peons.
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"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ."

-the new testament.

Ephesians 6:5
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Imagine if you were a god who also made his own living pets, wouldn't you be a bit of dick to them too, just cause y'know, you made them and own them

The universe is a fucked up, evil place. So God must be pretty dark as well.

known2FAIL posted...

So many stories that make you ask... "What the fuck is wrong with you?" Seriously.

It's simple when you realize God is the after the fact explanation the Israelite's came up with to explain every good or bad thing that happened to them throughout history. Or in certain cases, the excuse for why they did it.

Would it surprise you to know that there are a handful of bat-shit insane small Haredi congregations that believe the Holocaust was God's punishment for the Jews becoming more secular and attempting to assimilate into Gentile society? It's a monstrous belief, but It would certainly fit the Old Testament God's MO.
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Remember when God fucked up the life of a good person just because God made a bet with the devil?
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Wetterdew posted...

Satan kills way fewer people than God does in the bible. Lmao

The same way that Charles Manson never killed anyone himself?
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known2FAIL posted...

I never thought about that...

Certain Jewish sects believe Satan is Samael, the Angel of Death, and that he works for God by testing humanity. After all:

I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil; I am the LORD, that doeth all these things. -Isaiah 45:7
JPS Tanakh 1917

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Dyinglegacy posted...

Well, I mean, if God exists, then he's god, and kinda allowed to be. We're just peons.

Which is why we need to side with Satan and overthrow him

God created all, he's the same yesterday today and tomorrow. You will be smited by his holy wrath and sent to the pits of hell forever and ever, but he loves you!
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Wetterdew posted...

scorpion41 posted...

Yeah the OT and NT are vastly different.

He's awful in both

Also, most Christians don't just outright dismiss the old testament. They pic parts to heed

How is he awful in the NT?

And what's wrong with picking out the parts that aren't awful? It's not like the OT was written by Christians, so what's wrong with picking?
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Bloodychess posted...

Wetterdew posted...

scorpion41 posted...

Yeah the OT and NT are vastly different.

He's awful in both

Also, most Christians don't just outright dismiss the old testament. They pic parts to heed

How is he awful in the NT?

And what's wrong with picking out the parts that aren't awful? It's not like the OT was written by Christians, so what's wrong with picking?

Did you see the part I posted from the new testament above? The new testament endorses owning humans as property, slavery
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eston posted...

God really changed after he had a kid

More like, He gave up and said, "Here, you deal with this shit now, Jesus"

...but God is Jesus...
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Its like it was made up.
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When Satan takes Jesus to a mountain and offers him the whole world, it's because Satan can, because he is the owner who made it in the OT. The Father of whom Jesus speaks is not the OT creator of the world, but someone else above that. The OT creator just thought he was God.
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BB mofo posted...

It's simple when you realize

It's even more simple when you do proper research to "realize" it came from the Sumerians.

Poiuyt posted...

Gnosticism had it right all along...

Exactly, which is why Constantine and bishops had numerous books declared heresy. Churches never needed to be a thing but the Bible was compiled specifically to bring Rome together aka lemmings.

Who knows what the truth is?

You have brain-dead troglodytes, who can barely get the sentence "god does not exist" out of their mouth, without chocking on their drool cloth. Then, you have people who are hyper religious, who seemingly do not want to make decisions for themselves.

It could be that neither one is right.
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NeverOffended posted...

It's even more simple when you do proper research to "realize" it came from the Sumerians.

Here's the online class lecture series at Yale where I got my information. It's by Christine Hayes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo-YL-lv3RY&list=PLh9mgdi4rNeyuvTEbD-Ei0JdMUujXfyWi

To paraphrase a good 25 hours, most of the Tanakh was written after the Babylonian exile by the Deuteronomists, who edited their oral history to reflect their own theology at that time. The main question they faced was why their God would break up the ancient tribes of Israel, banish them for over 1000 years, then decide to send Cyrus the Great to repatriate them back to their ancestral homeland. The Tanakh is a terrible source for history, but its a great way to see what were the controversies, concerns, and positions the Jews held around the time of the building of the Temple.
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yeah not a very good opiate for the masses imo

though if you view "god" as some kind of version of reality then it makes sense....shitty things happen irl iykwim

JustMyOpinion posted...

In one part of the OT he kills a guy for refusing to finish inside his deceased brother's widow.

..what?? Is this true?
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God needed to look like a hardass in the old testiment to compete with the other god of that era. When he realized he didn't need to do that anymore, he sent his son to show how he really thinks, maybe.
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BB mofo posted...

NeverOffended posted...

It's even more simple when you do proper research to "realize" it came from the Sumerians.

Here's the online class lecture series at Yale where I got my information. It's by Christine Hayes:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mo-YL-lv3RY&list=PLh9mgdi4rNeyuvTEbD-Ei0JdMUujXfyWi

To paraphrase a good 25 hours, most of the Tanakh was written after the Babylonian exile by the Deuteronomists, who edited their oral history to reflect their own theology at that time. The main question they faced was why their God would break up the ancient tribes of Israel, banish them for over 1000 years, then decide to send Cyrus the Great to repatriate them back to their ancestral homeland. The Tanakh is a terrible source for history, but its a great way to see what were the controversies, concerns, and positions the Jews held around the time of the building of the Temple.

Appreciate it, I will check it out!

Shin Megami Tensei had the right idea.
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NeverOffended posted...

Appreciate it, I will check it out!

It's a really good series. It forced me to see the Old Testament as a collection of political documents of their day using stories from the past to make what at that time were contemporary arguments.

For example, there were members of the Jewish tribal elite who were against the idea of the Jews bringing back the kingship, so they wrote negative things about Saul, David, and Solomon. The elite who supported the kingship wrote about all their accomplishments.

Another thing was that during Solomon's reign, Israel was extremely affluent and non-Jews were immigrating there and doing business. Solomon wanted the Kingdom to become a melting pot, but there were a group of nationalists who wanted to run all the non-Jews out. They won out and Solomon was demonized in the Tanakh. They tried to tie every failure in his reign to his tolerance of non-Jews.

Then there is the argument that Ruth was written to convince a Jewish audience that Jewish converts could be just as good a Jew as a born one. It was suggested that this was in reaction to Samaritans and non-Israelites that were inhabiting the land during the exile converting during the time of the Deuteronomists.
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Satan never killed anybody.

HAIL SATAN!
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Wetterdew posted...

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ."

-the new testament.

Ephesians 6:5

what a religion

Snack posted...

Wetterdew posted...

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ."

-the new testament.

Ephesians 6:5

what a religion

i don't know if it's endorsing slavery but telling people to not be angry/bitter about their situation.

dunno, just my 2 cents. which are canadian, so worth about 70% of everyone else's here.
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redeadlink posted...

i don't know if it's endorsing slavery but telling people to not be angry/bitter about their situation.

It's quite literally comparing slave owners to Christ

Darklit_Minuet posted...

redeadlink posted...

i don't know if it's endorsing slavery but telling people to not be angry/bitter about their situation.

It's quite literally comparing slave owners to Christ

if you say so.
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redeadlink posted...

Snack posted...

Wetterdew posted...

"Slaves, obey your earthly masters with respect and fear, and with sincerity of heart, just as you would obey Christ."

-the new testament.

Ephesians 6:5

what a religion

i don't know if it's endorsing slavery but telling people to not be angry/bitter about their situation.

dunno, just my 2 cents. which are canadian, so worth about 70% of everyone else's here.

How is it okay to tell slaves to be complacent with their situation?

Why on earth would any decent being writing a holy book of instructions for all of humanity put anything remotely close to "slaves, obey your masters with fear and respect." in? This is the updated bible we are supposed to revere and obey
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later y'all.

i don't have arguments, and i don't care.
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Yeah just ignore that he gives you the ability to live for eternity through the sacrifice of his only son.
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