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Silly_Topic
06/04/18 9:35:41 PM
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Samsung Galaxy S9 has a headphone jack, has expendable storage, and is one of the best smartphones available right now.

And it's still thin.
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known2FAIL
06/04/18 9:36:55 PM
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Sure there is.

"Charge suckers money for our heavily overpriced custom headphones"
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bulletproofvita
06/04/18 9:38:06 PM
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mario masta
06/04/18 9:38:18 PM
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known2FAIL posted...
Sure there is.

"Charge suckers money for our heavily overpriced custom headphones"

This. Also I bet they want to discourage people from using things like the Square reader.

I'm sticking with Samsung.
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Unsugarized_Foo
06/04/18 9:39:26 PM
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Wish my Essential Phone had one, but the included adapter is good quality... still hate it though
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Rob Cesternino
06/04/18 9:53:53 PM
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Imagine not using wireless headphones

What are we, cavemen?
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_BIueMonk
06/04/18 9:54:21 PM
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TC is just not not brave enough.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/04/18 9:56:14 PM
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Wireless headphones are good solely for working out.
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DarkTransient
06/04/18 9:57:02 PM
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USB-C and adapter. As a temporary measure until USB-C becomes the standard plug for headphones anyway.
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GAMERCAMRY
06/04/18 9:57:09 PM
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imagine using headphones. just use max volume speakers smh
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/04/18 9:58:00 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
until USB-C becomes the standard plug for headphones anyway.


This will never happen. 3.5mm has been around for decades, usb changes too often.
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LinksLiege
06/04/18 9:58:39 PM
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iPhone X lacks a headphone jack, and expandable storage, and a removable battery.

My $130 Moto G4 Play has all of those.
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AvantgardeAClue
06/04/18 10:01:20 PM
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There are included adapters, wireless headphones which are perfectly capable for regular usage and typically more useful, and Bluetooth adapters for the car which cost $10-15 tops.

I think tablets and computers still need headphone jacks because they're work tools, but phones without headphone jacks are totally fine, even if the developers have half-assed reasons why.

Removable batteries were for a time when battery life was so shit that people needed multiple batteries. I had multiple batteries with my Galaxy S3 and it was not as convenient as people think. Fast and wireless charging make those batteries even less justifiable.

Expandable storage is a bit more arguable, but most companies give 32-64 GB as standard and with a load of cloud and streaming services available you only need more storage if you're like me and prefer hoarding all your things for offline usage.
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Tyranthraxus
06/04/18 10:03:30 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
USB-C and adapter. As a temporary measure until USB-C becomes the standard plug for headphones anyway.

Unless you get two USB c ports then no. One of the main functions of the 3.5 was to let you plug in headphones and charge at the same time.
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Silly_Topic
06/04/18 10:15:44 PM
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Rob Cesternino posted...
Imagine not using wireless headphones

What are we, cavemen?

Samsung Galaxy S9 can do both
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AvantgardeAClue
06/04/18 10:25:16 PM
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Silly_Topic posted...
Rob Cesternino posted...
Imagine not using wireless headphones

What are we, cavemen?

Samsung Galaxy S9 can do both


And so can the iPhone, with an included adapter. Pixel apparently doesn't even include one lmao

At least people have stopped asking me for the aux cord.
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DarkBuster22904
06/04/18 10:30:41 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Removable batteries were for a time when battery life was so shit that people needed multiple batteries.

So an iphone after two or three updates
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AvantgardeAClue
06/04/18 10:38:39 PM
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DarkBuster22904 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Removable batteries were for a time when battery life was so shit that people needed multiple batteries.

So an iphone after two or three updates


Or any phone battery after 2-3 years of frequent usage, really
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Silly_Topic
06/04/18 11:06:04 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Silly_Topic posted...
Rob Cesternino posted...
Imagine not using wireless headphones

What are we, cavemen?

Samsung Galaxy S9 can do both


And so can the iPhone, with an included adapter. Pixel apparently doesn't even include one lmao

At least people have stopped asking me for the aux cord.

you mean the dongle? pixel 2 does include one out of the box, but they are very cheaply made and i've had to buy like 3 more due to them crapping out on me.

S9+ is my primary phone, now
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the_cajun88
06/04/18 11:09:43 PM
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Bluetooth headphones for general listening, bluetooth integration in the car, bluetooth access to a soundbar, and a bluetooth waterproof speaker for showering.

The only thing needed to plug in is the charging cable, and wireless charging will be widespread soon itself.

Embrace the future.

EMBRACE IT
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InstaReturns
06/04/18 11:17:08 PM
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I cant imagine not having my lg tone platinums these days
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spudger
06/04/18 11:18:11 PM
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it comes with an adapter so its not that big

but i agree its dumb not to have as it doesnt seem to affect size.
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Silly_Topic
06/04/18 11:19:01 PM
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I have audiophile Sennheiser HD598 quality headphones
https://www.amazon.com/Sennheiser-HD-598-Over-Ear-Headphones/dp/B0042A8CW2/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&qid=1528168703&sr=8-6&keywords=hd598

Any wireless headphones that can compete with these? i'd be surprised...

But good thing is, I can still do both wireless+wired on Samsung Galaxy S9+ and not carry around a dumb dongle! Or buy multiple ones!
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Unsugarized_Foo
06/04/18 11:19:14 PM
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I used to do wireless, but I cant justify the price anymore as I go through them like water. Physical job + sweat + 5hrs min of use a day = short life
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Ving_Rhames
06/04/18 11:20:06 PM
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Wireless headphones are literally only for people who don't gaf about sound quality.
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SuperShake666
06/04/18 11:25:49 PM
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Silly_Topic posted...
and not carry around a dumb dongle! Or buy multiple ones!


Who the fuck doesn't just plug the dongle into the headphones and just leave it on?
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AvantgardeAClue
06/04/18 11:26:09 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Wireless headphones are literally only for people who don't gaf about sound quality.


Please, I'm a producer and I only use my AT-M50Xs for reference sound, otherwise wireless errything
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Silly_Topic
06/04/18 11:26:20 PM
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SuperShake666 posted...
Silly_Topic posted...
and not carry around a dumb dongle! Or buy multiple ones!


Who the fuck doesn't just plug the dongle into the headphones and just leave it on?

have to charge it
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AvantgardeAClue
06/04/18 11:26:51 PM
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Silly_Topic posted...
SuperShake666 posted...
Silly_Topic posted...
and not carry around a dumb dongle! Or buy multiple ones!


Who the fuck doesn't just plug the dongle into the headphones and just leave it on?

have to charge it


He meant on the headphone end lol
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mario masta
06/04/18 11:27:20 PM
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Ving_Rhames posted...
Wireless headphones are literally only for people who don't gaf about sound quality.

I use them for working out only. Otherwise when I'm traveling it's wired Bose noise canceling headphones. They're so much better.
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SuperShake666
06/04/18 11:27:25 PM
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Silly_Topic posted...
have to charge it


Yeah, so you unplug it from the phone and just leave it on the headphones.
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sktgamer_13dude
06/04/18 11:28:48 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
DarkBuster22904 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
Removable batteries were for a time when battery life was so shit that people needed multiple batteries.

So an iphone after two or three updates


Or any phone battery after 2-3 years of frequent usage, really

Why Ive been really good with my new iPhone 8 battery. Dont charge my phone overnight anymore and I dont overcharge my battery anymore.
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Silly_Topic
06/04/18 11:29:22 PM
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SuperShake666 posted...
Silly_Topic posted...
have to charge it


Yeah, so you unplug it from the phone and just leave it on the headphones.

Or I can just plug the headphones directly into my Samsung Galaxy S9 Headphone Jack, and still charge my phone via USB.
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AvantgardeAClue
06/04/18 11:30:00 PM
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mario masta posted...
Ving_Rhames posted...
Wireless headphones are literally only for people who don't gaf about sound quality.

I use them for working out only. Otherwise when I'm traveling it's wired Bose noise canceling headphones. They're so much better.


They have those exact same headphones now wirelessly lol
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Touch
06/04/18 11:30:08 PM
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I like how when phones started removing the headphone jack suddenly everyone became an audiophile obsessed with superior sound quality and also needs to use the headphones while charging the phone 24/7
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AvantgardeAClue
06/04/18 11:31:06 PM
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Silly_Topic posted...
SuperShake666 posted...
Silly_Topic posted...
have to charge it


Yeah, so you unplug it from the phone and just leave it on the headphones.

Or I can just plug the headphones directly into my Samsung Galaxy S9 Headphone Jack, and still charge my phone via USB.


Or you don't do that and let your phone fucking charge so you won't wear out the battery prematurely.
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Silly_Topic
06/04/18 11:31:17 PM
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Touch posted...
I like how when phones started removing the headphone jack suddenly everyone became an audiophile obsessed with superior sound quality and also needs to use the headphones while charging the phone 24/7

Samsung Galaxy S9+ can do both. And it has expandable storage

What do these other phones have that give it a major advantage over Galaxy S9+???
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daftpunk_mk5
06/04/18 11:32:58 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
There are included adapters, wireless headphones which are perfectly capable for regular usage and typically more useful, and Bluetooth adapters for the car which cost $10-15 tops.

I think tablets and computers still need headphone jacks because they're work tools, but phones without headphone jacks are totally fine, even if the developers have half-assed reasons why.

Removable batteries were for a time when battery life was so shit that people needed multiple batteries. I had multiple batteries with my Galaxy S3 and it was not as convenient as people think. Fast and wireless charging make those batteries even less justifiable.

Expandable storage is a bit more arguable, but most companies give 32-64 GB as standard and with a load of cloud and streaming services available you only need more storage if you're like me and prefer hoarding all your things for offline usage.


Dude is full cucked.
You're the reason manufactures get away with so much bullshit.
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daftpunk_mk5
06/04/18 11:33:49 PM
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Touch posted...
I like how when phones started removing the headphone jack suddenly everyone became an audiophile obsessed with superior sound quality and also needs to use the headphones while charging the phone 24/7


It's almost as if people actually used the headphone jack. Crazy, right?
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AvantgardeAClue
06/04/18 11:35:09 PM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...

Dude is full cucked.
You're the reason manufactures get away with so much bullshit.


Shut the fuck up and counterargue me then

There's no meaningful gains from wired headphones over wireless on a smartphone. Audio cards mean all the shit will sound essentially the same in the end

Nah, I'd argue streaming music vs. downloaded, and different audio codecs first.
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daftpunk_mk5
06/04/18 11:40:29 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
daftpunk_mk5 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...

Dude is full cucked.
You're the reason manufactures get away with so much bullshit.


Shut the fuck up and counterargue me then


Removable batteries aren't about max capacity. Its about capacity degradation over time and planned obsolescence. A lithium ion loses capacity and output voltage over time, and taking away removable batteries was a way to decrease the usuable life of a phone and get people to replace them more often. And simplistic cucks who don't understand that bend over and get willingly dicked in the ass by it.
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daftpunk_mk5
06/04/18 11:43:32 PM
#42:


AvantgardeAClue posted...
daftpunk_mk5 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...

Dude is full cucked.
You're the reason manufactures get away with so much bullshit.


Shut the fuck up and counterargue me then

There's no meaningful gains from wired headphones over wireless on a smartphone. Audio cards mean all the shit will sound essentially the same in the end

Nah, I'd argue streaming music vs. downloaded, and different audio codecs first.


Fucking lmao how stupid can you be. That's just flat false. Buy a pair of vmoda crossfade wireless headphones and try them in wired vs Bluetooth mode and tell me there's no difference with a straight face.
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daftpunk_mk5
06/04/18 11:46:21 PM
#43:


"Hey everyone! My name is AvantgardeAClue and I believe that a low voltage wireless protocol can transmit the same amount of information as an analog copper wire connection!"
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daftpunk_mk5
06/04/18 11:46:52 PM
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But honestly reading your username, I realize that you're trolling.
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AvantgardeAClue
06/04/18 11:47:39 PM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
daftpunk_mk5 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...

Dude is full cucked.
You're the reason manufactures get away with so much bullshit.


Shut the fuck up and counterargue me then


Removable batteries aren't about max capacity. Its about capacity degradation over time and planned obsolescence. A lithium ion loses capacity and output voltage over time, and taking away removable batteries was a way to decrease the usuable life of a phone and get people to replace them more often. And simplistic cucks who don't understand that bend over and get willingly dicked in the ass by it.


Oh, you're one of those tinfoilers.

No, internal batteries are a design feature that enable companies to do more with the internals without sacrificing the form factor or features. Rather, maybe you should look into the lack of battery support by most Android phones and even Samsung.

Apple offers battery replacements now for $30, which is roughly about the same amount as a new battery, tools to replace it, and the labor cost if you did it yourself. Even before they charged $80, which got you a new device in the case of non-iPhone related products. So no, planned obsolescence is bullshit.
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Anarchy_Juiblex
06/04/18 11:50:04 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
There's no meaningful gains from wired headphones over wireless on a smartphone.


I bought an LG V20 specifically because of the removeable battery, sd slot, and quad dac. It sounds killer and can power my Sennheiser HD 6XX's.
Do wireless headphones even have fucking an impedance rating? I can't imagine they would.
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Unsugarized_Foo
06/04/18 11:50:09 PM
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AvantgardeAClue posted...
Apple offers battery replacements now for $30, which is roughly about the same amount as a new battery, tools to replace it, and the labor cost if you did it yourself. Even before they charged $80, which got you a new device in the case of non-iPhone related products. So no, planned obsolescence is bullshit.


Don't you remember what the whole battery ordeal was about?
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MedzXVIII
06/04/18 11:50:36 PM
#48:


What happened to cordless phones?
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daftpunk_mk5
06/04/18 11:52:45 PM
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Anarchy_Juiblex posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
There's no meaningful gains from wired headphones over wireless on a smartphone.


I bought an LG V20 specifically because of the removeable battery, sd slot, and quad dac. It sounds killer and can power my Sennheiser HD 6XX's.
Do wireless headphones even have fucking an impedance rating? I can't imagine they would.


Nahbro. You're imagining it. Those hd6xx sound exactly the same as some wireless Jaybirds. Cause audio cards and stuff. Forget that a Bluetooth headphone literally bypasses the phone's dac and acts as it's own. Totally irrelevant.
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AvantgardeAClue
06/04/18 11:53:16 PM
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daftpunk_mk5 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...
daftpunk_mk5 posted...
AvantgardeAClue posted...

Dude is full cucked.
You're the reason manufactures get away with so much bullshit.


Shut the fuck up and counterargue me then

There's no meaningful gains from wired headphones over wireless on a smartphone. Audio cards mean all the shit will sound essentially the same in the end

Nah, I'd argue streaming music vs. downloaded, and different audio codecs first.


Fucking lmao how stupid can you be. That's just flat false. Buy a pair of vmoda crossfade wireless headphones and try them in wired vs Bluetooth mode and tell me there's no difference with a straight face.


Lmao, Vmodas.

Bet you own Astros for your gaming setup too huh lol

No, I did a blind listen test with my Audio Technica headphones after I got my wireless adapter, both with myself and a friend. No real differences there.

And if you own something like the Pixel 1 the headphone jack is typically worse sounding somehow lol

https://pitchfork.com/thepitch/1305-does-bluetooth-really-sound-worse/

But newer Bluetooth variants can allow more data to pass through, providing for sound that can be near CD-quality. Whats more, the decision between Bluetooth and wired or Wifi headphones is only one variable among many that can affect sound quality, audio experts say.

Bluetooth 4.0 and 5.0 are the standard now, way better than what it was before. Throw in Wi-Fi audio in the mix and the only real excuse for wired headphones is not worrying about batteries or signal strength

https://www.decibullz.com/blog/wireless-vs-wired-headphones/

Although Bluetooth is considered a primary factor in the sound quality of wireless headphones, it is important to remember the quality of the headphones themselves and the audio device being used may affect sound quality as well. Thus, using a first-rate audio device may improve your chances of getting the best sound quality, regardless of whether you use wired or wireless headphones.

Many wireless headphones can replicate the audio quality of wired headphones.

Lets not forget about the impact of Bluetooth-compressed audio, either. Early versions of wireless headphones focused on compressing audio, which resulted in a harsh, digital sound. Conversely, new wireless headphones are making improvements in this area, and an advanced audio distribution profile (A2DP) now enables wireless headphones to stream high-quality stereo audio via the SBC codec.

Nah, you should be more worried about people listening to streaming music on anything less than "Highest" quality or 128 KBPS MP3s that people like to rip YouTube music with

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