Board 8 > Phoenix Wright Mafia Topic 9: You're... You're Mystic Maya's... special someone

(+) Yeah! (+)

Nick x Maya reunited at last

The Living

1. Arti
2. Corrik
3. Crescent-Moon
4. Dark Young Link
5. Foolmo
6. Forceful Dragon
7. htaeD
8. My Immortal
9. Nanahara713
10. NewDonker
11. Sceptilesolar/ColZach
12. Shaduln

The Dead
[LD1] profDeadpool - Kristoph Gavin, Mafia Roleblocker
[KN1] red13n/Leafeon13n - Phoenix Wright, Town Lawyer
[LD2] turbopuns2 - Matt Engarde, Mafia Kidnapper
[KN2] RogueNoble - Ema Skye, Town Vanilla
[LD3] DoomTheGyarados (Chris) - Manfred Von Karma, Mafia Bulletproof Ninja Vigilante
[KN3] eaedwards - Simon Blackquill, Town Roleblocker
[LD4] HanOfTheNekos - Garan Sigatar Khurain, Mafia Queen (Stronglady)
[KN4] ScareChan - Maya Fey, Town Spirit Medium
[MKN4] Alakazamtrainer - Trucy Wright, Town Magician (Doctor)

With 12 alive, it takes 7 to lynch. Day ends at 11 PM EDT on June 5, 2018, or when a majority is reached.
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Tag
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Hi leo
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Anyway today was my birthday and I'm tired so I'll dig out the votals tomorrow at some point, not interested in it now

we still need to hear from crescent, dyl and death anyways
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Arti posted...

Anyway today was my birthday and I'm tired so I'll dig out the votals tomorrow at some point, not interested in it now

we still need to hear from crescent, dyl and death anyways

Happy birthday! No one on b8 told me happy birthday for mine! So at least you had 1 person!
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[2] Foolmo - Corrik, NewDonker
[1] DYL - MI
[1] FD - Nana
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I think we should hammer foolmo while visiting is still here. Surely forceful will be ecstatic for a 5th scum.to be dead when he gets back (then shad u would tracker forceful)
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VI*
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Arti posted...

Anyway today was my birthday and I'm tired so I'll dig out the votals tomorrow at some point, not interested in it now

we still need to hear from crescent, dyl and death anyways

Holy shit, today is MY birthday, I just turned 30 2 minutes ago
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Nanahara715 posted...

Arti posted...

Anyway today was my birthday and I'm tired so I'll dig out the votals tomorrow at some point, not interested in it now

we still need to hear from crescent, dyl and death anyways

Holy shit, today is MY birthday, I just turned 30 2 minutes ago

Happy birthday!
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fuck nick tbqh

who is nick
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Aight I am going to sleep. Don't let the pedal off of foolmo.
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From previous topic:

##Unvote
##Vote: Foolmo

I don't buy he's trying to trap someone, I think he's trying to make sure that who he claims he visited wasn't targeted by anyone else.
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Tag
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(also happy birthday guys

no more talking frommenow)
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Didn't foolmo say 1 person targeted Corrik on N2?
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Nanahara715 posted...

Didn't foolmo say 1 person targeted Corrik on N2?

Yes
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

You are an idiot Corrik and i detest the way you play mafia.

To expand upon this:

You are chaos incarnate, and not remotely in a good way.

Through your bullish behavior your bring out the worst in everyone you interact with. It doesn't matter who it is or what your alignment is, you elevate the toxicity of the game just by being you.

I am NOT scum, I HAVE been trying to do my best to scum hunt and I AM legitimately upset that you keep insisting that day needs to end because it's "stagnating" when the honest answer is that you are being lazy and don't want to put the time to productive use.

.

I'm also really surprised that Zam was actually town. Blocker, Doc and Backup is legitimately a LOT of potential protection, and with all the different scans being claimed town feels pretty dang overpowered.

Since MI is above reproach that leaves the Watcher/Tracker. On account of the work shad did day 1 and the realistic way he claimed that he was not blocked by han I have to agree that the play today is foolmo.
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Corrik posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Didn't foolmo say 1 person targeted Corrik on N2?

Yes

Ok, so, no one has claimed that target.

Which means that, if Foolmo is town and truthful, someone is lying about their action, probably scum.

Which means if Foolmo is town, scum targeted Corrik on N2.

Why would scum target Corrik?

[they wouldnt]

So why the fuck would a town Foolmo still think Corrik was scum?
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Sounds like a personal problem. I feel bad for you son. Cuz I got 99 probs and my play ain't one.
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With that said, if Foolmo is scum then i can't fathom why Scare was not killed on N2 or N3.

The interaction during Day 2 (that seemed to go largely unnoticed) cemented for me that not only was scare protection, but that fool knew about it.

The only way for this to make sense would be if Scare was the night 2 scum target (by han) and that was the kill that was broken up by Eaed. Then it would explain why Scare wasn't targetted N2. But that still doesn't explain why Scare wasn't targetted N3 unless they thought they had to prioritize taking out the blocker who had (potentially) already negated a kill.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Corrik posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Didn't foolmo say 1 person targeted Corrik on N2?

Yes

Ok, so, no one has claimed that target.

Which means that, if Foolmo is town and truthful, someone is lying about their action, probably scum.

Which means if Foolmo is town, scum targeted Corrik on N2.

Why would scum target Corrik?

[they wouldnt]

So why the fuck would a town Foolmo still think Corrik was scum?

Should be "why would scum target scum Corrik", as typed in the previous post doesn't make sense.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Corrik posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Didn't foolmo say 1 person targeted Corrik on N2?

Yes

Ok, so, no one has claimed that target.

Which means that, if Foolmo is town and truthful, someone is lying about their action, probably scum.

Which means if Foolmo is town, scum targeted Corrik on N2.

Why would scum target Corrik?

[they wouldnt]

So why the fuck would a town Foolmo still think Corrik was scum?

Hint. He is scum. I pegged him day 1 with his Chris interaction. He has been a dead man walking for awhile.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

With that said, if Foolmo is scum then i can't fathom why Scare was not killed on N2 or N3.

The interaction during Day 2 (that seemed to go largely unnoticed) cemented for me that not only was scare protection, but that fool knew about it.

The only way for this to make sense would be if Scare was the night 2 scum target (by han) and that was the kill that was broken up by Eaed. Then it would explain why Scare wasn't targetted N2. But that still doesn't explain why Scare wasn't targetted N3 unless they thought they had to prioritize taking out the blocker who had (potentially) already negated a kill.

Scare was doctor protected N2 as well.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

With that said, if Foolmo is scum then i can't fathom why Scare was not killed on N2 or N3.

The interaction during Day 2 (that seemed to go largely unnoticed) cemented for me that not only was scare protection, but that fool knew about it.

The only way for this to make sense would be if Scare was the night 2 scum target (by han) and that was the kill that was broken up by Eaed. Then it would explain why Scare wasn't targetted N2. But that still doesn't explain why Scare wasn't targetted N3 unless they thought they had to prioritize taking out the blocker who had (potentially) already negated a kill.

Chris makes decisions for that team. Not foolmo.
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Yeah, that's a really good breakdown on the N2 thing that I was going to look into but forgot to.

Foolmo needs to claim his night action now.
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Corrik:

Are you actually bulletproof?

Because that could affect why foolmo (if he is town) saw you targetted n2 and it isn't been claimed. Perhaps scum tried to kill you and failed.

I don't think this is likely, but it's a possible interpretation of events that is going overlooked atm.

And I never know if I can believe anything you say because you are the most untrustworthy person in the game.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik:

Are you actually bulletproof?

Because that could affect why foolmo (if he is town) saw you targetted n2 and it isn't been claimed. Perhaps scum tried to kill you and failed.

I don't think this is likely, but it's a possible interpretation of events that is going overlooked atm.

And I never know if I can believe anything you say because you are the most untrustworthy person in the game.

Of course I am not bulletproof. Are you goody. Lol
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Goofy*
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There is still at least a 50% chance Corrik isn't a miller even if he's town.
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Everyone with a modicum of mafia skill knows what my role is at this point. It isn't a huge secret.

Go ahead. Someone tell him.
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I mean I assume you're just vanilla townie at this point.
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Shaduln posted...

I mean I assume you're just vanilla townie at this point.

See. Everyone knew that. Did you guys even read my flavor paraphrase day 1? Lolol
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik:

Are you actually bulletproof?

Because that could affect why foolmo (if he is town) saw you targetted n2 and it isn't been claimed. Perhaps scum tried to kill you and failed.

I don't think this is likely, but it's a possible interpretation of events that is going overlooked atm.

And I never know if I can believe anything you say because you are the most untrustworthy person in the game.

Corrik's role is wholly irrelevant here.

Foolmo says someone targeted Corrik.

No one has claimed to target Corrik.

Thus the person who targeted Corrik is scum [or non existent if Foolmo is scum, which he probably is and knows a scummate targeted Corrik that night]

So scum targeted Corrik N2. As such, Foolmo should consider Corrik confirmed town, but he's not.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Scare was doctor protected N2 as well.

Well damn, that's in my list and I didn't put 2 and 2 together.

So there are a bunch of potential reasons that only 1 person died night 2.

ALSO the fact that Han was the Mafia Stronglady, which I assume translates to Strongman. Which

Strongman is a role modifier that signifies that any kills performed by this player cannot be blocked by any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by Roleblocks.

If that's the case then Eaed couldn't have possibly stopped a kill from han on N2.

So if there were 2 scum kills attempted then.

1) Han targetted Leo which was successful in spite of the attempted roleblock by Eaed.

and

2) Chris targetted Scare which failed (doc save from Zam) or Chris targetted Corrik which failed (bulletproof)

In the event that it was Chris -> Corrik it could potentially mesh with foolmo's claimed watch.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik:

Are you actually bulletproof?

Because that could affect why foolmo (if he is town) saw you targetted n2 and it isn't been claimed. Perhaps scum tried to kill you and failed.

I don't think this is likely, but it's a possible interpretation of events that is going overlooked atm.

And I never know if I can believe anything you say because you are the most untrustworthy person in the game.

Corrik's role is wholly irrelevant here.

Foolmo says someone targeted Corrik.

No one has claimed to target Corrik.

Thus the person who targeted Corrik is scum [or non existent if Foolmo is scum, which he probably is and knows a scummate targeted Corrik that night]

So scum targeted Corrik N2. As such, Foolmo should consider Corrik confirmed town, but he's not.

*but he's not considering Corrik as confirmed town
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Corrik posted...

Everyone with a modicum of mafia skill knows what my role is at this point. It isn't a huge secret.

Go ahead. Someone tell him.

Shit like this is why I do not like to play with you.

You can call it "mind games" all you want, but it's just you justifying acting like a bully and an asshole to everyone else.
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Someone who just claimed Vanilla had an eerily close paraphrase to my flavor paraphrase. And I know they didn't remember mine to parrot mine.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Foolmo says someone targeted Corrik.

No one has claimed to target Corrik.

Thus the person who targeted Corrik is scum [or non existent if Foolmo is scum, which he probably is and knows a scummate targeted Corrik that night]

So scum targeted Corrik N2. As such, Foolmo should consider Corrik confirmed town, but he's not.

Okay, this makes sense.
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I mean, honestly, what it probably turns into is if foolmo is telling the truth is that Corrik is some kind of role that he hasn't claimed but I'm honestly not wanting to go down that path until we know fool's flip for sure.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

Scare was doctor protected N2 as well.

Well damn, that's in my list and I didn't put 2 and 2 together.

So there are a bunch of potential reasons that only 1 person died night 2.

ALSO the fact that Han was the Mafia Stronglady, which I assume translates to Strongman. Which

Strongman is a role modifier that signifies that any kills performed by this player cannot be blocked by any means - neither by Bulletproof, nor by Doctor or other protective roles, nor by Roleblocks.

If that's the case then Eaed couldn't have possibly stopped a kill from han on N2.

So if there were 2 scum kills attempted then.

1) Han targetted Leo which was successful in spite of the attempted roleblock by Eaed.

and

2) Chris targetted Scare which failed (doc save from Zam) or Chris targetted Corrik which failed (bulletproof)

In the event that it was Chris -> Corrik it could potentially mesh with foolmo's claimed watch.

Strongman is typically X-shot where X is a number, typically 1.

If it was Chris->Corrik, Foolmo's accusation that Corrik is scum is still not consistent with a Town perspective AND Shad is lying because he tracked Han no where, so those would literally be our last two scum.
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I guess I just don't see the scum role that would be still able to target corrik but I guess yeah if town hasn't claimed the target it has to be scum so hmm.
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Forceful_Dragon posted...

Corrik posted...

Everyone with a modicum of mafia skill knows what my role is at this point. It isn't a huge secret.

Go ahead. Someone tell him.

Shit like this is why I do not like to play with you.

You can call it "mind games" all you want, but it's just you justifying acting like a bully and an asshole to everyone else.

Claiming something is being a bully. Okay. Sorry. Mafia is a game of manipulation. I confirmed as town through current mafia meta by claiming miller. That made a player slot no one wasted scans on, mafia wouldn't touch, and would give clout to listen to my reads. That is just smart mafia. Get out of the Stone age. Sitting there being all 100% honest in a game of mafia. Lol
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It is also why you know foolmo is lying. No one was going to visit a fucking claimed Miller. It's common sense. So why do u believe he watched one.
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Shaduln posted...

I guess I just don't see the scum role that would be still able to target corrik but I guess yeah if town hasn't claimed the target it has to be scum so hmm.

Watcher, Tracker, Rolecop, Framer, Vanillaizer, etc.
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Corrik posted...

It is also why you know foolmo is lying. No one was going to visit a fucking claimed Miller. It's common sense. So why do u believe he watched one.

See, tracking you makes sense (to confirm/catch you in a lie), it's the fact that he watched you that doesn't make sense.
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Shaduln posted...

Corrik posted...

It is also why you know foolmo is lying. No one was going to visit a fucking claimed Miller. It's common sense. So why do u believe he watched one.

See, tracking you makes sense (to confirm/catch you in a lie), it's the fact that he watched you that doesn't make sense.

*the fact that he watched you when he allegedly doesn't learn who targets you.

Possible actual mafia watcher trying to learn who the tracker was by targeting a legit tracker target.
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Shaduln posted...

Corrik posted...

It is also why you know foolmo is lying. No one was going to visit a fucking claimed Miller. It's common sense. So why do u believe he watched one.

See, tracking you makes sense (to confirm/catch you in a lie), it's the fact that he watched you that doesn't make sense.

I am not denying tracking me wouldnl make sense. Cuz it would. But watching me... Three days in a row? LMFAO. No one is going to visit a miller claim.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Shaduln posted...

I guess I just don't see the scum role that would be still able to target corrik but I guess yeah if town hasn't claimed the target it has to be scum so hmm.

Watcher, Tracker, Rolecop, Framer, Vanillaizer, etc.

Let me rephrase, in the current roles that have been flipped. I guess if there are six scum we have to assume there's probably one more power, but I'm assuming it's a godfather at this point. Unless the ninja is their version of the godfather since I'm around? I'm also assuming there's one vanilla scum.

But that's a lot of assumptions.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Shaduln posted...

Corrik posted...

It is also why you know foolmo is lying. No one was going to visit a fucking claimed Miller. It's common sense. So why do u believe he watched one.

See, tracking you makes sense (to confirm/catch you in a lie), it's the fact that he watched you that doesn't make sense.

*the fact that he watched you when he allegedly doesn't learn who targets you.

Possible actual mafia watcher trying to learn who the tracker was by targeting a legit tracker target.

Doesn't make sense. Why would a watcher assume tracker. They would assume no tracker.
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