Board 8 > Phoenix Wright Mafia Topic 8: Unofficial Edition

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The Living

1. Alakazamtrainer
2. Arti
3. Corrik
4. Crescent-Moon
5. Dark Young Link
6. Foolmo
7. Forceful Dragon
8. HanOfTheNekos
9. htaeD
10. My Immortal
11. Nanahara713
12. NewDonker
13. ScareChan
14. Sceptilesolar/ColZach
15. Shaduln

The Dead
[LD1] profDeadpool - Kristoph Gavin, Mafia Roleblocker
[KN1] red13n/Leafeon13n - Phoenix Wright, Town Lawyer
[LD2] turbopuns2 - Matt Engarde, Mafia Kidnapper
[KN2] RogueNoble - Ema Skye, Town Vanilla
[LD3] DoomTheGyarados (Chris) - Manfred Von Karma, Mafia Bulletproof Ninja Vigilante
[KN3] eaedwards - Simon Blackquill, Town Roleblocker

With 15 alive, it takes 8 to lynch. Game ends at 11 PM EDT on Sunday, June 3rd, 2018, or when a majority is reached.
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should have called it Apollo edition
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htaeD posted...

should have called it Apollo edition

Claiming flavor?
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htaeD posted...

should have called it Apollo edition

That game was so bad I never finished it.

Alakazamtrainer posted...

htaeD posted...

should have called it Apollo edition

Claiming flavor?

nah
just referencing the quality drop in the series
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Crescent-Moon posted...

htaeD posted...

should have called it Apollo edition

That game was so bad I never finished it.

it is

but it has plenty of connections to Spirit of Justice so it's an important part of the series regardless
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Anyway foolmo's claim is fine and the flavor fits. Dunno why Corrik is so against it.

Speaking of doc/rb I've paired them up in a game this big I've hosted. 21 players, two scanners, two protection, vig, jack, and doublevoter. Pretty simple.

I'm confused at why people think Shad is town at the moment. He has done next to nothing and continues to ignore me when I ask him what his reads are.
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Crescent-Moon posted...

htaeD posted...

honestly while I am done with day1 yet, I do want to point out a few things about Han

in topic2, Han says he doesnt like the prof lynch but okays it since deadpool cracks under pressure
All the while he whines that DYL and Shad should be pressured as well
later he excuses himself from voting deadpool by applying pressure to zam some more. (which Shad calls him out for doing, and anyone else who tries the same)
Then
as soon as MI says he okays pressure on MI
Han takes that chance to vote DYL and asks MI to join him. paired with his eventual vote for day1, this is a bad look

and I want his claim first

##Vote: han

I noted at the end of day 1 that almost every single vote Han made was a splinter. It wasn't until ~2 minutes left that he voted Deadpool.

Hey now. I said I would vote prof over Chris. All this proves is that I like being the last person on lynches.

Arti, I want you to admit you were wrong on Corrik being a good player.
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no
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Corriks aggression today is just hitting me the wrong way. Hes getting frustrated and the dialogue is going in circles.

These discussions of if Corrik is good or not is irrelevant because his quality of play could be entirely based on if hes scum or not.

This day is floundering hard.

@Arti I would also like to get some reads from shad

Arti is claiming Scum.
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hmm looking back, foolmo did have that terrible
'lynch corrik first then Chris' argument on day1
would have made me want to vote him, but now his watcher claim sorta checks out
it seems impossible to fake and pointless to be on scums side
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btw Han, claim
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Yeah, it'd be a really risky fake. Given what we've seen of the Scumteam so far though, risky plays seem to be the MO.

It's possible that he's a Scumwatcher and does know the identities of who he sees.
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htaeD posted...

btw Han, claim

I object.
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I think scum-watcher would've been on me to find protection as opposed to Corrik 3x.

and if he wasn't really on Corrik 3x it's really risky to claim no one on Corrik N1/2 when someone could've visited him and countered.
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thought yes I see little reason to call arti town so far
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I also think you should claim Hans. I believe very heavily that eaed blocked a kill on you N2 and it's going to be hard to get me to go elsewhere.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

htaeD posted...

btw Han, claim

I object.

I overrule your objection, so claim
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My Immortal posted...

I think scum-watcher would've been on me to find protection as opposed to Corrik 3x.

and if he wasn't really on Corrik 3x it's really risky to claim no one on Corrik N1/2 when someone could've visited him and countered.

Should be N 1/3 there.
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My Immortal posted...

I think scum-watcher would've been on me to find protection as opposed to Corrik 3x.

and if he wasn't really on Corrik 3x it's really risky to claim no one on Corrik N1/2 when someone could've visited him and countered.

Yeah, wouldn't have been the smart Scumplay. Chris flipping ninja also lends credence to the claim.

And yeah, I'll claim.
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

htaeD posted...

btw Han, claim

I object.

denied
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sweet
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I am Miles Edgeworth, Town Prosecutor. I was trained to get a guilty verdict, no matter what. If I'm the last person on a lynch, I get a one-time use of their power, if they have one.

N1 blocked Shad.
N2 was roleblocked, but was going to kidnap Corrik (being RB should've prevented me from showing on fool's scan, so that ain't me).
N3 I wanted to strangle Zam to death.
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You've def been hinting at hammerer.

I'm not used to seeing RB getting rid of power though. Do you still have a kidnap use?

Are you claiming you shot at Alakazam?
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[5] Han - Nana, MI, Scare, Crescent, Death
[2] Corrik - Han, Alakazam
[1] Alakazam - DYL
[1] FD - foolmo
[1] Foolmo - (Corrik), (Corrik), Corrik
[1] Shad - Arti
[1] DYL - (MI), Shad
[0] Death - (Corrik)
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hmmm
reminds me of dr hammer, spirals scum hammerer role
where he gained benefits each time he hammered a player (scum or town)
I am less inclined to believe this role as its not easy to fake, but it is very creative
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I only get the power the night of the lynch.

I didnt get a shot N3 because Zam stole hammer.
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Oh right you didn't hammer.

Hm.
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htaeD posted...

hmmm
reminds me of dr hammer, spirals scum hammerer role
where he gained benefits each time he hammered a player (scum or town)
I am less inclined to believe this role as its not easy to fake, but it is very creative

That is a beautiful role.
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I'm climbing now, but I'll beback aroundin likean hour
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So was your plan D1 to be the last vote on whoever of Chris/Deadpool had more votes?
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Noooo I have questions
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well at the very least we/you are making it more difficult for scum to claim power
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As someone who has fake claimed Hammerer before, I'm very iffy on the claim.

Also don't buy Fool's claim.

If his watch doesn't give the player name, then scum having a ninja is functionally meaningless/pointless.

He's either scum watcher or he's Town watcher intentionally being obtuse and difficult and not revealing information.
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Han, what happens if you hammer me?

I've used my Vig shot already. Do you get another one?
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Also, everyone trying to lynch Corrik needs to piss off. Until he actually leads a ML, he's done more damage to scum than town, regardless of his alignment. Get your heads out of your behinds.
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Nanahara715 posted...

Also, everyone trying to lynch Corrik needs to piss off. Until he actually leads a ML, he's done more damage to scum than town, regardless of his alignment. Get your heads out of your behinds.

Who should we lynch? Han?

Ok catching up

Reminder that we had Chris pegged yesterday and Corrik's ONLY contribution was to role fish eaed and get him killed. Again, if he is scum, he is playing entirely offensively now and doesn't give a shit about protecting his scumbuds. That's how he measures his success. This is entirely consistent with his town play as well. He's a solo player. I can imagine on the scumboard him insulting everyone for playing badly while he is out here not doing a thing to support them.

7.260 ColZach posted...

Is this assuming that Corrik wanted to kill his guy so he could look good? It makes sense but why do it from d1???

His tunnel on Chris started D1 as insurance against Chris getting lynched, and he immediately tied it to me as well ("when Chris flips scum lynch Fool") which is what he is doing now. Chris is a super powerful mafia role and player in general, so you want to set it up so his death provides big scum benefits - getting scum Corrik "confirmed" and getting a town mislynched. This is worthy insurance even if it means making some scumtells here and there.

He didn't expect that TWO of his scumbuds would be totally clowned day after day, and then Chris immediately after, but he couldn't just drop his tunnel. He HAD to go through with lynching Chris D3 or else his cover is blown. 3 powerful mafia roles down the drain, all so he can have a WEAK claim to innocence and get me mislynched today. The weak ass watcher. Not sure why you all say Corrik is good. He picks 1 strategy D1 and takes it to his grave. Of course that works sometimes, but it's pure luck. There is no reason to doubt my obvious claim, but he is still trying to hold onto D1 nonsense to kill me. I guess it's the least he can do after doing shit to stop 3 of his buds from dying.

That being said I need to know who targeted Corrik N2 before committing to him being scum. But no one should let this possibility leave their mind. Same with FD. They are the 2 most dangerously "confirmed town" right now.

7.279 Nanahara715 posted...

But where is the mafia factional kill in this case? Probably submitted by Han... who was blocked N2 by Eaedward.

Strong argument. But like Han says in 288, there are other ways that shot could be blocked.

7.327 Forceful_Dragon posted...

So can we STOP ENDING DAY EARLY FFS.

I like this rant but it reads a lot like fake scum indignation. "Oh yeah looks how much I care about town discussion!!!" There's lots of opportunity to contribute to town which you didn't in previous days. If you contribute well today, then this post will feel genuine.

htaeD posted...

these are my mornings, the day is still early, I can fill the hours however I wish and I am not spending all of them on mafia

How many times are you gonna make this exact post instead of just posting a god damn read or two? (his post 359 later is good)

394 Corrik posted...

Foolmo alrdy soft claimed tracker.

See he recognized my hints but still doesn't believe my claim lol. Again this could just be bad-but-not-scum play.
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Corrik posted...

We know Donker, Arti are town.

We know I am town.

Need explicit explanations for all 3 of these, now. Of course, I won't get it because Corrik is faking indignation as an excuse to stop posting for the rest of the day.

All 3 of them dudes play is so town that it is sickening.

This is all he said about them

Do we have any town players who actually want to help town and explain how these 3 are town?

My Immortal posted...

Fool why are you so convinced FD is still scum?

When you said you thought it even with my inno scan I thought you meant you had some kind of proof against him.

FD could very well be godfather but it's not worth going down that path yet.

Just regular reads right now, same stuff that I was talking about in D2. I agree it's not worth going down that path today, but I don't want people to forget.

I do like the Han lynch today and am willing to contribute to that. But if I die tonight then I want Corrik and FD pressured.
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ColZach posted...

These discussions of if Corrik is good or not is irrelevant because his quality of play could be entirely based on if hes scum or not.

Either way it's bad. As town he is being an idiot who hasn't actually helped lynch scum. As scum he has let 3 strong scumbuds die without any support. He has tunneled on this 1 Chris gambit all game, which doesn't work for Chris or for Scum. It only works for Corrik.
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Tqg
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HanOfTheNekos posted...

I am Miles Edgeworth, Town Prosecutor. I was trained to get a guilty verdict, no matter what. If I'm the last person on a lynch, I get a one-time use of their power, if they have one.

This feels tooooo convenient. Like isn't your gimmick hammering? I do have a feeling that VI hand-allocated these roles though (Chris a the most epic mafia role really??) so that would make sense

Nanahara715 posted...

intentionally being obtuse and difficult and not revealing information.

God I wish

But ninja does have an effect because I don't see them in my count. So Chris could've targeted Corrik N1 (which would confirm Corrik town) but it showed up as 0 on my scan.
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chris as von karma is a hilarious image for sure

but sometimes scum does get roles that are redundant to make town confused

chris is still useful as a vig
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foolm0r0n posted...

Nanahara715 posted...

intentionally being obtuse and difficult and not revealing information.

God I wish

But ninja does have an effect because I don't see them in my count. So Chris could've targeted Corrik N1 (which would confirm Corrik town) but it showed up as 0 on my scan.

Chris was roleblocked by eaed n1
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Fd wouldn't copy a claims list from scumboard

But could have prepared it for scumboard !!
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Han is 100% scum
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Also I feel like hammerer would definitely be a mafia role add-on

But also that would mean so many mafia power roles with so little town power (not that it ended up mattering in this game I guess)
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Fool o think is scum too

But han is 100% scum
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