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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 5:02:22 PM
#203:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
Except you having to face some legal actions, prior to the death of another person, all of which could of easily had been avoid led if the bike was not placed there in the first place.
It's a lose/lose situation.
The guy dies, you go to prison for his death.
The Bicycle's owner is allowed to setup the Bicycle anywhere they want, it's not the owners fault a dumb thief goes onto steal the Bicycle.

Would you really stake a bike over a petty theif's life?
What the bike is probably worth no more than $100~$400?
Say the guy fell, broke his spine (can't even walk anymore at this point)...
it cost $1,000~$10,000 (if not, a lot more) to cover the medical fees...
Would you really want to be responsible for that?
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KamenRiderBlade
06/03/18 5:02:45 PM
#204:


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@darkrobotisback how do you feel about those anti-rape devices women can buy? They are like a reverse condom lined with hundreds of spikes, which impale the rapist, are exceedingly painful and cant be removed himself. If a rapist gets caught in one, should the women be charged?
I think those "Anti-Rape" devices aren't severe enough, they need devices that literally slice off the entire penis.
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KamenRiderBlade
06/03/18 5:03:42 PM
#205:


Darkrobotisback posted...
Would you really stake a bike over a petty theif's life?
What the bike is probably worth no more than $100~$400?
Say the guy fell, broke his spine (can't even walk anymore at this point)...
it cost $1,000~$10,000 to cover the medical fees...
Would you really want to be responsible for that?
I shouldn't be responsible for the medical fees of a thief who tried to rob me, period. He's on his own for that.

I'll be glad to take this case to a jury and argue in front of them myself why this Thief deserves nothing, and I deserve reimbursement for all the legal fees / pain / suffering that the Thief has caused ME!!!.

The real victim!

Being a Thief isn't a valid Job or acceptable one in modern society.

I still can't believe you want to give them ANY sort of benefit in ANY way.

They can choose to NOT be a Thief and live a respectable normal life.

But noooo!!!!

They must hurt society to get what they want!

And you fall for their sympathy ploy Hook / Line / Sinker!
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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 5:08:07 PM
#206:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
Would you really stake a bike over a petty theif's life?
What the bike is probably worth no more than $100~$400?
Say the guy fell, broke his spine (can't even walk anymore at this point)...
it cost $1,000~$10,000 to cover the medical fees...
Would you really want to be responsible for that?
I shouldn't be responsible for the medical fees of a thief who tried to rob me, period. He's on his own for that.

But you sabotaged the bike to the point where it could kill him.
You could of locked the bike in a way that posed no harm to another person(s), but you've decided to impose a mechanism that defies the bikes safety mechanism and you've also recorded him getting injured/killed.
Therefore you have full knowledge of incident and the court of the law will see you as the perpetrator behind said persons death/or injury.
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EnterTheTekken
06/03/18 5:08:40 PM
#207:


We have a real problem with understanding conscious choices in this country & I really don't understand it.
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Darklit_Minuet
06/03/18 5:09:32 PM
#208:


Darkrobotisback posted...
But you sabotaged the bike to the point where it could kill him.

It's my fucking bike. I should be able to sabotage it however the fuck I want, because nobody's allowed to ride it without asking my permission

Darkrobotisback posted...
You could of locked the bike in a way that posed no harm to another person, but you've decided to impose a mechanism that defies the bikes safety mechanism and you've also recorded him getting injured/killed.

The thief could have not attempted to steal my bike

Darkrobotisback posted...
Therefore you have full knowledge of incident and the court of the law will see you as the perpetrator behind said persons death/or injury.

I have full knowledge of how I decided to secure my own bike. If someone ends up getting hurt while trying to deprive me of my property, that's on them
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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 5:13:08 PM
#209:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
But you sabotaged the bike to the point where it could kill him.

It's my fucking bike. I should be able to sabotage it however the fuck I want, because nobody's allowed to ride it without asking my permission

Darkrobotisback posted...
You could of locked the bike in a way that posed no harm to another person, but you've decided to impose a mechanism that defies the bikes safety mechanism and you've also recorded him getting injured/killed.

The thief could have not attempted to steal my bike

Darkrobotisback posted...
Therefore you have full knowledge of incident and the court of the law will see you as the perpetrator behind said persons death/or injury.

I have full knowledge of how I decided to secure my own bike. If someone ends up getting hurt while trying to deprive me of my property, that's on them


In the end of the day, the court will rule out manslaughter or 3rd degree murder.
You could try to fight it and I can guarantee you that you will lose, especially if you have footage of the guy dying/injured.
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KamenRiderBlade
06/03/18 5:15:16 PM
#210:


Darkrobotisback posted...
But you sabotaged the bike to the point where it could kill him.
You could of locked the bike in a way that posed no harm to another person(s), but you've decided to impose a mechanism that defies the bikes safety mechanism and you've also recorded him getting injured/killed.
Therefore you have full knowledge of incident and the court of the law will see you as the perpetrator behind said persons death/or injury.
1) If you are a CRIMINAL (e.g. Bicycle Thief), the safety of the Criminal isn't my concern or liability, EVER!!!
2) There is no "Guaranteed Safety Mechanism" to a Bicycle when it comes to a simple ROPE / Chain attached to the Bicycle. It's how you are SUPPOSED to lock a Bicycle up.
3) The law / Jury wouldn't see me as a perpetrator since I'm not expecting people to steal my Bicycle.
If I choose to allow somebody to use my Bicycle, I would disable all restraints.
But since I didn't allow said Thief, that's on them to figure out how to steal my Bicycle.
I have ZERO Obligation to make the Bicycle Easy to Steal / Safe for them to steal, PERIOD!!!

It's people like you who allow criminality to prosper, you are a ally of all criminals as far as I'm concerned.

What next, allow rapists to more easily rape their victims?

Poor Women was raped but the Rapist was hit with the Anti-Rape condom and is suing for injury to his penis.

That sounds like a topic you would love to defend!
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Darklit_Minuet
06/03/18 5:15:23 PM
#211:


Darkrobotisback posted...
In the end of the day, the court will rule out manslaughter or 3rd degree murder.

Which is a problem of the court

Darkrobotisback posted...
You could try to fight it and I can guarantee you that you will lose, especially if you have footage of the guy dying/injured.

That's why I'll do a jury trial. No jury would convict someone over this, because everyone has had something stolen from them in the past and wants to punish the assholes who do that kind of shit.
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KamenRiderBlade
06/03/18 5:16:11 PM
#212:


Darkrobotisback posted...
In the end of the day, the court will rule out manslaughter or 3rd degree murder.
You could try to fight it and I can guarantee you that you will lose, especially if you have footage of the guy dying/injured.
And I'm willing to bet the Jury is willing to side with us after we make our case.
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ModLogic
06/03/18 5:19:28 PM
#213:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
No jury would convict someone over this, because everyone has had something stolen from them in the past and wants to punish the assholes who do that kind of shit.

so has anyone rigged their front door with a shotgun and gotten away with it?
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Darklit_Minuet
06/03/18 5:22:19 PM
#214:


ModLogic posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
No jury would convict someone over this, because everyone has had something stolen from them in the past and wants to punish the assholes who do that kind of shit.

so has anyone rigged their front door with a shotgun and gotten away with it?

That's a no no because people can have legitimate reasons to enter your front door without your permission. For example, paramedics or the fire department trying to save you.

There's no legitimate reason that would allow someone to steal your bike, therefore the same logic does not apply.
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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 5:25:46 PM
#215:


KamenRiderBlade posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
In the end of the day, the court will rule out manslaughter or 3rd degree murder.
You could try to fight it and I can guarantee you that you will lose, especially if you have footage of the guy dying/injured.
And I'm willing to bet the Jury is willing to side with us after we make our case.

I don't know about that.
Literally anyone could get picked as a juror, and the likelihood of them feeling any empathy towards is immediately low.
Most people don't want to "prolong the court"...
In that sense, your defense will immediately falter unless you hire a good as hell lawyer that is capable of swaying the notion of the jury in your favor.
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KamenRiderBlade
06/03/18 5:26:49 PM
#216:


Darkrobotisback posted...
I don't know about that.
Literally anyone could get picked as a juror, and the likelihood of them feeling any empathy towards is immediately low.
Most people don't want to "prolong the court"...
In that sense, your case will immediately faulted unless you higher a good as hell lawyer that is capable of swaying the notion of the jury in your favor.
I'll gladly take my chances with the jury.
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DiegoSanchez206
06/03/18 5:27:54 PM
#217:


Darkrobotisback posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
In the end of the day, the court will rule out manslaughter or 3rd degree murder.
You could try to fight it and I can guarantee you that you will lose, especially if you have footage of the guy dying/injured.
And I'm willing to bet the Jury is willing to side with us after we make our case.

I don't know about that.
Literally anyone could get picked as a juror, and the likelihood of them feeling any empathy towards is immediately low.
Most people don't want to "prolong the court"...
In that sense, your defense will immediately falter unless you hire a good as hell lawyer that is capable of swaying the notion of the jury in your favor.


No one is getting charged manslaughter or murder in this situation. In your fantasy world where this happens, you will not find a jury in the world were every single one agrees with that none sense.
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TheRobber
06/03/18 5:28:35 PM
#218:


how come it's mostly minorities that tried to steal it?
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ShutTheF---_Up
06/03/18 5:31:42 PM
#219:


Lol people think they'd win in court for booby-trapping their own devices. That's hilarious
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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 5:32:29 PM
#220:


DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
In the end of the day, the court will rule out manslaughter or 3rd degree murder.
You could try to fight it and I can guarantee you that you will lose, especially if you have footage of the guy dying/injured.
And I'm willing to bet the Jury is willing to side with us after we make our case.

I don't know about that.
Literally anyone could get picked as a juror, and the likelihood of them feeling any empathy towards is immediately low.
Most people don't want to "prolong the court"...
In that sense, your defense will immediately falter unless you hire a good as hell lawyer that is capable of swaying the notion of the jury in your favor.


No one is getting charged manslaughter or murder in this situation. In your fantasy world where this happens, you will not find a jury in the world were every single one agrees with that none sense.


Someone will always be responsible for the injury/death of another person.
You can't wholeheartedly expect to commit a prank on someone else, walk away like nothing happened especially if the prank went wrong, someone died or got seriously injured...
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Rika_Furude
06/03/18 5:36:05 PM
#221:


In this case its the thief responsible for the death of themselves
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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 5:40:19 PM
#222:


Rika_Furude posted...
In this case its the thief responsible for the death of themselves

If someone cuts your brakes, and you rammed into the brick wall.
Would you be considered responsible for your own death?
Of course not, someone had the intention to seriously injure/kill you.
Same thing applies here, but on a smaller scale.
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DiegoSanchez206
06/03/18 5:40:55 PM
#223:


Darkrobotisback posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
KamenRiderBlade posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
In the end of the day, the court will rule out manslaughter or 3rd degree murder.
You could try to fight it and I can guarantee you that you will lose, especially if you have footage of the guy dying/injured.
And I'm willing to bet the Jury is willing to side with us after we make our case.

I don't know about that.
Literally anyone could get picked as a juror, and the likelihood of them feeling any empathy towards is immediately low.
Most people don't want to "prolong the court"...
In that sense, your defense will immediately falter unless you hire a good as hell lawyer that is capable of swaying the notion of the jury in your favor.


No one is getting charged manslaughter or murder in this situation. In your fantasy world where this happens, you will not find a jury in the world were every single one agrees with that none sense.


Someone will always be responsible for the injury/death of another person.
You can't wholeheartedly expect to commit a prank on someone else, walk away like nothing happened especially if the prank went wrong, someone died or got seriously injured...


In this case where a criminal is stealing a bicycle that clearly is tethered, thats on them.

No jury would convict the victim of the crime.
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DiegoSanchez206
06/03/18 5:41:27 PM
#224:


Darkrobotisback posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
In this case its the thief responsible for the death of themselves

If someone cuts your brakes, and you rammed into the brick wall.
Would you be considered responsible for your own death?
Of course not, someone had the intention to seriously injure/kill you.
Same thing applies here, but on a smaller scale.


It literally does not. This is a horrible comparison.
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CelestialVoices
06/03/18 5:41:38 PM
#225:


how is this a prank

get rekt thieves
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LJRENEGADE
06/03/18 5:45:58 PM
#226:


Darkrobotisback posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
In this case its the thief responsible for the death of themselves

If someone cuts your brakes, and you rammed into the brick wall.
Would you be considered responsible for your own death?
Of course not, someone had the intention to seriously injure/kill you.
Same thing applies here, but on a smaller scale.

It'd be more like if they cut their own brakes, then you stole their car and that happened.
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DiegoSanchez206
06/03/18 5:47:05 PM
#227:


LJRENEGADE posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
In this case its the thief responsible for the death of themselves

If someone cuts your brakes, and you rammed into the brick wall.
Would you be considered responsible for your own death?
Of course not, someone had the intention to seriously injure/kill you.
Same thing applies here, but on a smaller scale.

It'd be more like if they cut their own brakes, then you stole their car and that happened.

This is still not a good comparison
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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 5:47:35 PM
#228:


DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
In this case its the thief responsible for the death of themselves

If someone cuts your brakes, and you rammed into the brick wall.
Would you be considered responsible for your own death?
Of course not, someone had the intention to seriously injure/kill you.
Same thing applies here, but on a smaller scale.


It literally does not. This is a horrible comparison.

It's the same crime.
You tampered with vehicle to the point where it does not operate in its intended function.
Vehicle as a result becomes a hazard, and the ultimate end result becomes death/or injury.
You happen to know about this knowledge, and use it as a means to "take justice in your own hands".
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Darklit_Minuet
06/03/18 5:50:26 PM
#229:


Darkrobotisback posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
In this case its the thief responsible for the death of themselves

If someone cuts your brakes, and you rammed into the brick wall.
Would you be considered responsible for your own death?
Of course not, someone had the intention to seriously injure/kill you.
Same thing applies here, but on a smaller scale.


It literally does not. This is a horrible comparison.

It's the same crime.
You tampered with vehicle to the point where it does not operate in its intended function.
Vehicle as a result becomes a hazard, and the ultimate end result becomes death/or injury.
You happen to know about this knowledge, and use it as a means to "take justice in you own hands".

I see nothing wrong with people tampering with their own vehicles. If they wanna take off the steering wheel or remove the brakes, good for them. As long as it's in perfect working order when they decide to drive it.

If someone tries to steal that vehicle, it's on them when they realize they can't steer or brake. Shouldn't fucking steal someone's car
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fuzzylittlbunny
06/03/18 5:54:38 PM
#230:


Yes, absolutely. If some douchebag is trying to steal my stuff, he should, at the very least, be prepared to face repercussions. I mean it's like if you tried to steal something in front of the owner and they fought back. Only this time, the owner didn't have to be there to do so :3
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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 6:01:48 PM
#231:


fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Yes, absolutely. If some douchebag is trying to steal my stuff, he should, at the very least, be prepared to face repercussions. I mean it's like if you tried to steal something in front of the owner and they fought back. Only this time, the owner didn't have to be there to do so :3

In this case, they literally left their bike in front of a seemingly busy area.

It's the owners fault if they were naive enough to leave their bike unattended in the public with no chains or locks of any kind to make the bike immobile...

Would you leave your wallet filled $100 bills on the floor and expect it to be there by tomorrow?
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ThePrinceFish
06/03/18 6:03:36 PM
#232:


Darkrobotisback posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Yes, absolutely. If some douchebag is trying to steal my stuff, he should, at the very least, be prepared to face repercussions. I mean it's like if you tried to steal something in front of the owner and they fought back. Only this time, the owner didn't have to be there to do so :3

In this case, they literally left their bike in front of a seemingly busy area.

It's the owners fault if they were naive enough to leave their bike unattended in the public with no chains or locks of any kind to make the bike immobile...

Nobody ever deserves to be the victim of a crime, no matter how "naive" they were. The hell is wrong with you?
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fuzzylittlbunny
06/03/18 6:07:58 PM
#233:


Darkrobotisback posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Yes, absolutely. If some douchebag is trying to steal my stuff, he should, at the very least, be prepared to face repercussions. I mean it's like if you tried to steal something in front of the owner and they fought back. Only this time, the owner didn't have to be there to do so :3

In this case, they literally left their bike in front of a seemingly busy area.

It's the owners fault if they were naive enough to leave their bike unattended in the public with no chains or locks of any kind to make the bike immobile...

Would you leave your wallet filled $100 bills on the floor and expect it to be there by tomorrow?

Well then, it's also the thieves' fault for taking the bait, right? Because just as I shouldn't expect my loaded wallet to be there overnight, they shouldn't expect an unattended bike to be wide open for the taking without any form of security :3
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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 6:09:42 PM
#234:


ThePrinceFish posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Yes, absolutely. If some douchebag is trying to steal my stuff, he should, at the very least, be prepared to face repercussions. I mean it's like if you tried to steal something in front of the owner and they fought back. Only this time, the owner didn't have to be there to do so :3

In this case, they literally left their bike in front of a seemingly busy area.

It's the owners fault if they were naive enough to leave their bike unattended in the public with no chains or locks of any kind to make the bike immobile...

Nobody ever deserves to be the victim of a crime, no matter how "naive" they were. The hell is wrong with you?

All I'm saying...
Is that there are ways to protect your stuff...
You know without having to kill someone...
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DiegoSanchez206
06/03/18 6:10:03 PM
#235:


Darkrobotisback posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
In this case its the thief responsible for the death of themselves

If someone cuts your brakes, and you rammed into the brick wall.
Would you be considered responsible for your own death?
Of course not, someone had the intention to seriously injure/kill you.
Same thing applies here, but on a smaller scale.


It literally does not. This is a horrible comparison.

It's the same crime.
You tampered with vehicle to the point where it does not operate in its intended function.
Vehicle as a result becomes a hazard, and the ultimate end result becomes death/or injury.
You happen to know about this knowledge, and use it as a means to "take justice in your own hands".


You are talking about making a different persons vehicle faulty and trying to compare it to a bicycle that is clearly tethered to a pole and someone stealing the tethered bicycle.

I feel bad I even have to explain this.
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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 6:13:43 PM
#236:


DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
In this case its the thief responsible for the death of themselves

If someone cuts your brakes, and you rammed into the brick wall.
Would you be considered responsible for your own death?
Of course not, someone had the intention to seriously injure/kill you.
Same thing applies here, but on a smaller scale.


It literally does not. This is a horrible comparison.

It's the same crime.
You tampered with vehicle to the point where it does not operate in its intended function.
Vehicle as a result becomes a hazard, and the ultimate end result becomes death/or injury.
You happen to know about this knowledge, and use it as a means to "take justice in your own hands".


You are talking about making a different persons vehicle faulty and trying to compare it to a bicycle that is clearly tethered to a pole and someone stealing the tethered bicycle.

I feel bad I even have to explain this.


People have injured themselves from "hot coffee" and "slippery floors"...
Sooooo....
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Darklit_Minuet
06/03/18 6:14:26 PM
#237:


Darkrobotisback posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Yes, absolutely. If some douchebag is trying to steal my stuff, he should, at the very least, be prepared to face repercussions. I mean it's like if you tried to steal something in front of the owner and they fought back. Only this time, the owner didn't have to be there to do so :3

In this case, they literally left their bike in front of a seemingly busy area.

It's the owners fault if they were naive enough to leave their bike unattended in the public with no chains or locks of any kind to make the bike immobile...

Nobody ever deserves to be the victim of a crime, no matter how "naive" they were. The hell is wrong with you?

All I'm saying...
Is that there are ways to protect your stuff...
You know without having to kill someone...

But you're not killing anyone in this scenario.

Some idiots might end up killing themselves while trying to rob you. That's on them, and I feel no sympathy for them whatsoever
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DiegoSanchez206
06/03/18 6:15:56 PM
#238:


Darkrobotisback posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
In this case its the thief responsible for the death of themselves

If someone cuts your brakes, and you rammed into the brick wall.
Would you be considered responsible for your own death?
Of course not, someone had the intention to seriously injure/kill you.
Same thing applies here, but on a smaller scale.


It literally does not. This is a horrible comparison.

It's the same crime.
You tampered with vehicle to the point where it does not operate in its intended function.
Vehicle as a result becomes a hazard, and the ultimate end result becomes death/or injury.
You happen to know about this knowledge, and use it as a means to "take justice in your own hands".


You are talking about making a different persons vehicle faulty and trying to compare it to a bicycle that is clearly tethered to a pole and someone stealing the tethered bicycle.

I feel bad I even have to explain this.


People have injured themselves from "hot coffee" and "slippery floors"...
Sooooo....

Was it in the process of being stolen

Edit: Glad you gave up on your car scenario
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fuzzylittlbunny
06/03/18 6:17:15 PM
#239:


DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
DiegoSanchez206 posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
Rika_Furude posted...
In this case its the thief responsible for the death of themselves

If someone cuts your brakes, and you rammed into the brick wall.
Would you be considered responsible for your own death?
Of course not, someone had the intention to seriously injure/kill you.
Same thing applies here, but on a smaller scale.


It literally does not. This is a horrible comparison.

It's the same crime.
You tampered with vehicle to the point where it does not operate in its intended function.
Vehicle as a result becomes a hazard, and the ultimate end result becomes death/or injury.
You happen to know about this knowledge, and use it as a means to "take justice in your own hands".


You are talking about making a different persons vehicle faulty and trying to compare it to a bicycle that is clearly tethered to a pole and someone stealing the tethered bicycle.

I feel bad I even have to explain this.

WTF is this? How are these situations even remotely related???

If someone cuts your breaks and you died because of it, they're at fault, not you. They did something illegal. They made your vehicle unsafe without your knowledge, and they tampered with something not belonging to them.

With the bike, you're tampering with something that you own. Plus, it's not even illegal. You're literally chaining it up, just as you suggested Darkrobot.
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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 6:19:33 PM
#240:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
ThePrinceFish posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
fuzzylittlbunny posted...
Yes, absolutely. If some douchebag is trying to steal my stuff, he should, at the very least, be prepared to face repercussions. I mean it's like if you tried to steal something in front of the owner and they fought back. Only this time, the owner didn't have to be there to do so :3

In this case, they literally left their bike in front of a seemingly busy area.

It's the owners fault if they were naive enough to leave their bike unattended in the public with no chains or locks of any kind to make the bike immobile...

Nobody ever deserves to be the victim of a crime, no matter how "naive" they were. The hell is wrong with you?

All I'm saying...
Is that there are ways to protect your stuff...
You know without having to kill someone...

But you're not killing anyone in this scenario.

Some idiots might end up killing themselves while trying to rob you. That's on them, and I feel no sympathy for them whatsoever

You can indirectly kill someone without physically having to be there.
This is one of those scenarios, where you set up a trap, someone takes it.
They fall flat on their face, apparently the force of the impact was strong enough to bash in their skull or their face made contact the with the bike's handlebars severely injuring them in the process...
You legally cannot say that you had no part in the persons injuries or death if that happens.
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catboy0_0
06/03/18 6:20:14 PM
#241:


this is a good topic
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KillerKhan420
06/03/18 6:22:17 PM
#242:


It's fair just like a bait car for the cops is fair....and booby trapping your house especially after repeated break ins is completely fair. If you can't live in peace and have peace of mind then you're living in fear.
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Darklit_Minuet
06/03/18 6:27:55 PM
#243:


Darkrobotisback posted...
You legally cannot say that you had no part in the persons injuries or death if that happens.

Sure you can. You didn't tell them to steal your fucking bike, they decided to do it of their own volition
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HeyPuff
06/03/18 6:28:30 PM
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I think the concept is funny but this video is fake.

But looking at their other videos (cutting peoples earphones, slapping peoples drinks out their hand) if it was real, theyre a piece of shit.
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Darkrobotisback
06/03/18 6:31:24 PM
#245:


Darklit_Minuet posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
You legally cannot say that you had no part in the persons injuries or death if that happens.

Sure you can. You didn't tell them to steal your fucking bike, they decided to do it of their own volition

And is there any laws that will protect that notion? I doubt it.
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HeyPuff
06/03/18 6:33:28 PM
#246:


Darkrobotisback posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
You legally cannot say that you had no part in the persons injuries or death if that happens.

Sure you can. You didn't tell them to steal your fucking bike, they decided to do it of their own volition

And is there any laws that will protect that notion? I doubt it.


Did you just make an argument based on something you admitted you know nothing about
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nicklebro
06/03/18 6:48:16 PM
#247:


KillerKhan420 posted...
It's fair just like a bait car for the cops is fair....and booby trapping your house especially after repeated break ins is completely fair. If you can't live in peace and have peace of mind then you're living in fear.

I agree, it's totally fair. More than fair really. Unfortunately that doesnt make it legal.
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Lil_Bit83
06/03/18 7:03:54 PM
#248:


I've never seen anyone DIE falling off a bike before on perfectly flat ground. So there goes that ridiculous argument out the window.

I mean if we all died after falling and scraping our knees on a bike, there would be a lot less people in the world.
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nicklebro
06/03/18 7:16:20 PM
#249:


Lil_Bit83 posted...
I've never seen anyone DIE falling off a bike before on perfectly flat ground. So there goes that ridiculous argument out the window.

I mean if we all died after falling and scraping our knees on a bike, there would be a lot less people in the world.

Why does it have to be death or nothing? And why do you think that if you haven't seen it, it doesn't exist?
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Darklit_Minuet
06/03/18 7:36:48 PM
#250:


Darkrobotisback posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
Darkrobotisback posted...
You legally cannot say that you had no part in the persons injuries or death if that happens.

Sure you can. You didn't tell them to steal your fucking bike, they decided to do it of their own volition

And is there any laws that will protect that notion? I doubt it.

Many states allow you to use lethal force to defend your property. Castle doctrine laws, look it up.
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Grischnak
06/03/18 7:49:21 PM
#251:


I remember once at a gas station in a bad neighborhood I saw a really scummy looking guy ride by on a little girls bike that he had clearly just stolen. I thought "I hope a car runs over that piece of shit". I've also had 2 bikes stolen from my work when i was 17. So, yeah, fuck bike thieves. The more they get injured, the better.
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nicklebro
06/03/18 8:30:28 PM
#252:


I'm all for bike thieves getting caught red handed and facing the full brunt of the law, but why root for them to be injured?

Reminds me of how conservatives will ridicule Scandinavian countries prison systems and trash them for being too lenient on criminals and making prison too comfortable for them, all while ignoring the fact that their recidivism rate is microscopic compared to ours. Conservatives would rather get the petty satisfaction from punishing our criminals to full extent of the law than to focus on rehabilitating them even though it benefits society as a whole far more.
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