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Alakazamtrainer
05/31/18 2:12:59 PM
#401:


Corrik posted...
Okay caught up.

Happy with the content forced for today, Forceful and others?

Now we can lynch the common sense scum in Chris.

I gave you a little time to play some today Chris before we lynch ya. Hope you enjoyed it!


So no answers to my questions or observations?
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IfGodCouldDie
05/31/18 2:13:19 PM
#402:


You guys got votals recently.
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Corrik
05/31/18 2:13:45 PM
#403:


htaeD posted...
honestly I feel like scum would be less willing to vote with Corrik here
unless Eaed is really scum and Scare is really town, they would know Corrik was full of it

Colzachs vote was the most interesting. He had no reason to "justify his vote there" unless he was briefed on how I play before hand. It was a very scummy vote.

Eaed was chosen because I figured he would believe it and claim.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 2:14:07 PM
#404:


htaeD posted...
honestly I feel like scum would be less willing to vote with Corrik here
unless Eaed is really scum and Scare is really town, they would know Corrik was full of it


I like this theory where eaed is Scum but it would require Scum knowing I don't have a night action(or believing I am dayvig) to be true.

Or, like I said, Scum could have a backup. He'd be RBing since Night 1. Would also explain why Scum RB was so ruthlessly tossed to the wolves. (this hypothetical would explain ScumShad focusing down prof)
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Nanahara715
05/31/18 2:14:28 PM
#405:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
So SK is really unlikely at this point, but still possible. Better to operate under the assumption that there isn't one though.

With 2 Scum dead, we're looking at 4-5 remaining.

Townish
MI
Zam
eaed
FD
Shad

No reason not to buy eaed. Although I can't confirm he is telling the truth, he probably doesn't claim RB as Scum unless Scum have a backup, which is possible.

MI on puns yesterday was so delicious that the only reason I am not 100% sure he's Town is because he's still alive.

Zam, I think we're in agreement on seems to just be the easy lynch from D1 and I know I often see newer players as Scum.

FD has made me uneasy at a number of times during the game but has also had more Town-pings than anyone, so I'm willing to trust him.

Shad could have easily bought into Corrik's anti-Town playing today, but is being a voice of reason directly in sync with my thought processes, and that only happens when people are Town, so I'm willing to trust him here.

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Crescent
Chris
Fool
Nana
Scare
Donker

Crescent hasn't done a whole lot, and her arguments against me are bad. That said, she's posted more considerable content when she posts, which keeps her above the "inactive but posting" tier that fit Arti and Scept.

Chris didn't seem Scummy to me at all. I don't think he would've been a lynch possibility at all D1 if it wasn't for Corrik bashing his head into the keyboard the entire day to make it happen. Red did say this was Scum Chris, and Red is dead, so it's important to keep that in mind. But Red wouldn't have made that lynch happen without Corrik. Scum kidnapping one of their own is a dumb plan, especially if that's your bonus removal. In a game with 6/21 Scum, doing that play limits your win condition a lot, to the point where it shouldn't be considered, even if your long plan is to have someone hopelessly tunnel that person, provide no other content, kidnap then reveal that person, then get them lynched to make that tunneler look better. At 7/21 Scum, that play wouldn't be unthinkable though.

Fool has generally said good things and made good arguments, but I have a bad feeling that he is just really good at constructing arguments and using that to prop himself up despite not actually getting Scumhunting in.

I still can't believe Nana thought I was actually claiming, so I'm very hesitant to believe Nana is actually Town vig. Claims a shot on Chris, a 'claimed' BP. Feels a lot like he took advantage of me joking around to throw out a claim and then "confirm" himself (with the help of Corrik) by shooting(?) a BP. Still, this is a pretty clever plan and Nana can just be bad Town. But if Nana was bad Town, wouldn't he have just shot me, believing I was claiming vig in the first place? Nana should probably be in the Scummish tier, tbh.

I don't remember what Scare has done this game besides parrot Corrik this day after Corrik fakeclaimed an innocent scan on him.


I thought you were claiming dayvig. You proved after the fact that you weren't dayvig. No reason to shoot you.

I claimed my shot before Chris claimed BP, so I still don't understand why people think I "knew" he was BP when I shot.


Scum know my role.Puns claimed it.


So if I knew you were BP why did I shoot you instead of literally any other player? Why would I waste my shot?
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LiquidOshawott
05/31/18 2:14:45 PM
#406:


[3] Chris - (Corrik), (MI), Nana, (NewDonker), Scare, Corrik
[3] eaed - (Corrik), Chris, (ColZach), fool, (Death), NewDonk
[2] Corrik - Alakazam, Han
[1] DYL - Arti
[0] Han - (Chris)

Takes 9 to lynch
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DoomTheGyarados
05/31/18 2:15:01 PM
#407:


Dont ask me I said you were town.
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Corrik
05/31/18 2:15:15 PM
#408:


Alakazamtrainer posted...
Corrik posted...
Okay caught up.

Happy with the content forced for today, Forceful and others?

Now we can lynch the common sense scum in Chris.

I gave you a little time to play some today Chris before we lynch ya. Hope you enjoyed it!


So no answers to my questions or observations?

You are not worth my time. If you are town, you have played so much scummy that it is frankly crazy. I can point to maybe 35 posts of yours that town would never say in a real game. That is insane.

The fact is you can't realize the only thing that is not having people lynch you is the fact Chris and Deadpool was a scum-scum Lynch.
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eaedwards6400
05/31/18 2:16:32 PM
#409:


Corrik posted...
htaeD posted...
honestly I feel like scum would be less willing to vote with Corrik here
unless Eaed is really scum and Scare is really town, they would know Corrik was full of it

Colzachs vote was the most interesting. He had no reason to "justify his vote there" unless he was briefed on how I play before hand. It was a very scummy vote.

Eaed was chosen because I figured he would believe it and claim.


What I believed was the 6 votes before I even checked in ...
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 2:16:37 PM
#410:


Nanahara715 posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Nanahara715 posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
So SK is really unlikely at this point, but still possible. Better to operate under the assumption that there isn't one though.

With 2 Scum dead, we're looking at 4-5 remaining.

Townish
MI
Zam
eaed
FD
Shad

No reason not to buy eaed. Although I can't confirm he is telling the truth, he probably doesn't claim RB as Scum unless Scum have a backup, which is possible.

MI on puns yesterday was so delicious that the only reason I am not 100% sure he's Town is because he's still alive.

Zam, I think we're in agreement on seems to just be the easy lynch from D1 and I know I often see newer players as Scum.

FD has made me uneasy at a number of times during the game but has also had more Town-pings than anyone, so I'm willing to trust him.

Shad could have easily bought into Corrik's anti-Town playing today, but is being a voice of reason directly in sync with my thought processes, and that only happens when people are Town, so I'm willing to trust him here.

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Crescent
Chris
Fool
Nana
Scare
Donker

Crescent hasn't done a whole lot, and her arguments against me are bad. That said, she's posted more considerable content when she posts, which keeps her above the "inactive but posting" tier that fit Arti and Scept.

Chris didn't seem Scummy to me at all. I don't think he would've been a lynch possibility at all D1 if it wasn't for Corrik bashing his head into the keyboard the entire day to make it happen. Red did say this was Scum Chris, and Red is dead, so it's important to keep that in mind. But Red wouldn't have made that lynch happen without Corrik. Scum kidnapping one of their own is a dumb plan, especially if that's your bonus removal. In a game with 6/21 Scum, doing that play limits your win condition a lot, to the point where it shouldn't be considered, even if your long plan is to have someone hopelessly tunnel that person, provide no other content, kidnap then reveal that person, then get them lynched to make that tunneler look better. At 7/21 Scum, that play wouldn't be unthinkable though.

Fool has generally said good things and made good arguments, but I have a bad feeling that he is just really good at constructing arguments and using that to prop himself up despite not actually getting Scumhunting in.

I still can't believe Nana thought I was actually claiming, so I'm very hesitant to believe Nana is actually Town vig. Claims a shot on Chris, a 'claimed' BP. Feels a lot like he took advantage of me joking around to throw out a claim and then "confirm" himself (with the help of Corrik) by shooting(?) a BP. Still, this is a pretty clever plan and Nana can just be bad Town. But if Nana was bad Town, wouldn't he have just shot me, believing I was claiming vig in the first place? Nana should probably be in the Scummish tier, tbh.

I don't remember what Scare has done this game besides parrot Corrik this day after Corrik fakeclaimed an innocent scan on him.


I thought you were claiming dayvig. You proved after the fact that you weren't dayvig. No reason to shoot you.

I claimed my shot before Chris claimed BP, so I still don't understand why people think I "knew" he was BP when I shot.


Scum know my role.Puns claimed it.


So if I knew you were BP why did I shoot you instead of literally any other player? Why would I waste my shot?


Because Scum lie.
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eaedwards6400
05/31/18 2:17:10 PM
#411:


LiquidOshawott posted...
[3] Chris - (Corrik), (MI), Nana, (NewDonker), Scare, Corrik
[3] eaed - (Corrik), Chris, (ColZach), fool, (Death), NewDonk
[2] Corrik - Alakazam, Han
[1] DYL - Arti
[0] Han - (Chris)

Takes 9 to lynch


##Vote: NewDonker

Why you jumping from majority to majority?
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Corrik
05/31/18 2:17:36 PM
#412:


Good job, Scare. I needed a couple of people to follow along with my scan to force a claim out of it. You played exactly as town should have there.

And shut up, Chris, you would have known to do it as scum also.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/31/18 2:18:11 PM
#413:


eaedwards6400 posted...
Corrik posted...
htaeD posted...
honestly I feel like scum would be less willing to vote with Corrik here
unless Eaed is really scum and Scare is really town, they would know Corrik was full of it

Colzachs vote was the most interesting. He had no reason to "justify his vote there" unless he was briefed on how I play before hand. It was a very scummy vote.

Eaed was chosen because I figured he would believe it and claim.


What I believed was the 6 votes before I even checked in ...


I love this post.

Anyway let's just mass claim and finish the job. You aren't lynching me and claims are very useful!
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ColZach
05/31/18 2:18:27 PM
#414:


Idk Corrik, lying as Town is never a good thing. Were trying to learn here.

You should give Zam a good explanation and answer his questions, because I dont know what the hell youre doing anymore
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DoomTheGyarados
05/31/18 2:18:54 PM
#415:


Corrik posted...
Good job, Scare. I needed a couple of people to follow along with my scan to force a claim out of it. You played exactly as town should have there.

And shut up, Chris, you would have known to do it as scum also.


Do you think Scare is just really bad as scum or something.
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foolm0r0n
05/31/18 2:18:56 PM
#416:


117 foolm0r0n posted...
NewDonker posted...
Vote: Chris
Corrik's the fucking MVP.

This also feels too cheap and bandwagony. Donk still feels like he's just going through to motions. Which is fine for now I guess since we're up so much.

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foolm0r0n
05/31/18 2:19:09 PM
#417:


##Unvote: eaed
##Vote: Donk

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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 2:20:52 PM
#418:


Hey, can we lynch Corrik because he actually knew puns was the kidnapper and said it before puns was lynched?
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My Immortal
05/31/18 2:20:56 PM
#419:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Anyway let's just mass claim and finish the job

I'm down.

(no one else claim after me!)

Dick Gumshoe, town cop.

N1 Puns - Guilty
N2 Chris - Guilty

##Vote: Chris

I was literally agonizing minutes before night actions were due about changing my vote. I was so sure Chris was going to be innocent but I wanted to have proof because I knew how today was going to go. I was quite surprised (but pleased!) at the results.

Also was wondering why no one brought up that I never expressed that Chris was actually scum and called out people who said it was scum/scum yesterday and then... started today by voting Chris.
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My Immortal
05/31/18 2:21:43 PM
#420:


Also the reason I was getting on record everyone who was for / against lynching Chris.
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ScareChan
05/31/18 2:21:54 PM
#421:


Corrik posted...
Good job, Scare. I needed a couple of people to follow along with my scan to force a claim out of it. You played exactly as town should have there.

And shut up, Chris, you would have known to do it as scum also.


I thought eaed was scum anyways so I had no problem helping out a bit. but I kept my vote on chris because it was pretty obvious fake.

dont get why everyone says I have been sheeping you though. Especially Han who kept saying how I was right that Shad was scum, but now suddenly I have done nothing but follow you
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DoomTheGyarados
05/31/18 2:22:27 PM
#422:


But I don't scan guilty.

Legit!
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ScareChan
05/31/18 2:22:58 PM
#423:


Also if anything I think the fake scan shows that ColZach may be scum. He had no reason to not trust you really, and then when he did questin you it was like he just rolled over and voted. Fake posturing
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My Immortal
05/31/18 2:23:57 PM
#424:


Nah, Chris and turbo both went after Sceptile's player slot. ColZach is probably town.
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Dark Young Link
05/31/18 2:23:59 PM
#425:


Holy shit, have I seriously been gone enough to warrant a poke? ...Not that day 2 should count due to how early it ended.

Regardless, that's just shameful on my end.

I should have more time today to actually look back and give my thoughts.
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htaeD
05/31/18 2:25:02 PM
#426:


Corrik posted...
Alakazamtrainer posted...
Corrik posted...
Okay caught up.

Happy with the content forced for today, Forceful and others?

Now we can lynch the common sense scum in Chris.

I gave you a little time to play some today Chris before we lynch ya. Hope you enjoyed it!


So no answers to my questions or observations?

You are not worth my time. If you are town, you have played so much scummy that it is frankly crazy. I can point to maybe 35 posts of yours that town would never say in a real game. That is insane.

The fact is you can't realize the only thing that is not having people lynch you is the fact Chris and Deadpool was a scum-scum Lynch.


this feels like a turnaround on your previous stance with Alakazam
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Corrik
05/31/18 2:25:02 PM
#427:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrik posted...
Good job, Scare. I needed a couple of people to follow along with my scan to force a claim out of it. You played exactly as town should have there.

And shut up, Chris, you would have known to do it as scum also.


Do you think Scare is just really bad as scum or something.

Scare did a better job as selling it and Scare is 100% town alrdy as I have told you.

Scare legitimately went as far saying my reasoning to scan who I scanned was legit to pile the most credence to it.

And, yes, scare is awful as scum.
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ScareChan
05/31/18 2:25:03 PM
#428:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Corrik posted...
Good job, Scare. I needed a couple of people to follow along with my scan to force a claim out of it. You played exactly as town should have there.

And shut up, Chris, you would have known to do it as scum also.


Do you think Scare is just really bad as scum or something.


I feel scum scare either blows up corriks claim there or immediate votes to follow along. I dont think I would play it the way I did as scum
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DoomTheGyarados
05/31/18 2:25:13 PM
#429:


Also MI now no one is going to claim since they think you have confirmed scum/are scum who framed me (that's fitting given the theme. Scum were jerks to me)

I know you want to explode but geesh you could have gone last.
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My Immortal
05/31/18 2:25:17 PM
#430:


I had enough faith in myself to get puns lynched without claiming (and I did!)

But I don't have the energy today to replicate that with Chris.

Plus no protection died so I should still get a few more scans in.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 2:25:51 PM
#431:


ScareChan posted...
dont get why everyone says I have been sheeping you though. Especially Han who kept saying how I was right that Shad was scum, but now suddenly I have done nothing but follow you


I don't have the best memory, but I remember you joining Corrik's votes today and I don't remember you agreeing with me about Shad.

My Immortal posted...
OBJECTION! Pal!


##Unvote: Corrik

I am actually more convinced Corrik is Scum now, with a presumable Scumflip from Chris.
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My Immortal
05/31/18 2:25:58 PM
#432:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
now no one is going to claim

My Immortal posted...
(no one else claim after me!)

I didn't want anyone else to claim! I want protection to remain hidden so I know I'm safe.
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Corrik
05/31/18 2:25:58 PM
#433:


My Immortal posted...
DoomTheGyarados posted...
Anyway let's just mass claim and finish the job

I'm down.

(no one else claim after me!)

Dick Gumshoe, town cop.

N1 Puns - Guilty
N2 Chris - Guilty

##Vote: Chris

I was literally agonizing minutes before night actions were due about changing my vote. I was so sure Chris was going to be innocent but I wanted to have proof because I knew how today was going to go. I was quite surprised (but pleased!) at the results.

Also was wondering why no one brought up that I never expressed that Chris was actually scum and called out people who said it was scum/scum yesterday and then... started today by voting Chris.

Unfortunately we have no doctor now that we know we have a roleblocker so good night sweet prince.
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htaeD
05/31/18 2:26:34 PM
#434:


well now...

MI better not be playing with my heart, I cant take another round like that
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My Immortal
05/31/18 2:27:02 PM
#435:


You think we only have a RB for protection in a game of 21?
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DoomTheGyarados
05/31/18 2:27:23 PM
#436:


It is 21. We totally have a doctor geesh.

At least scum finally did something right by framing me.
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Corrik
05/31/18 2:27:40 PM
#437:


My Immortal posted...
I had enough faith in myself to get puns lynched without claiming (and I did!)

But I don't have the energy today to replicate that with Chris.

Plus no protection died so I should still get a few more scans in.

My fault for giving him time that you had to claim. Claiming as cop was a good idea before I forced hard to claim also. Now I signed your death sentence.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 2:27:50 PM
#438:


I claim Diurnal Acro, Town Infinite Shot Day Vig
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 2:28:12 PM
#439:


My Immortal posted...
(no one else claim after me!)


oops
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Corrik
05/31/18 2:28:20 PM
#440:


My Immortal posted...
You think we only have a RB for protection in a game of 21?

Roleblocker usually precludes a doctor. Probably have a commuter or bodyguard also. Roleblocker and doctor together is pretty strong.
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Alakazamtrainer
05/31/18 2:28:54 PM
#441:


Question for MI;

How reliable are your reads? Dick Gumshoe isn't known to be reliable in the game. As a matter of fact, he's quite the laughing stock.
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DoomTheGyarados
05/31/18 2:29:52 PM
#442:


Man MI way to... listen to your role PM and trust it. Fair is fair. But there was really nothing about today that doesn't benefit you from holding off and letting us discuss stuff.

But Chris guilty scans are rare I can't blame you. Still not scum though but you have your duty to do. Will still be around!
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htaeD
05/31/18 2:30:16 PM
#443:


Alakazamtrainer posted...
Question for MI;

How reliable are your reads? Dick Gumshoe isn't known to be reliable in the game. As a matter of fact, he's quite the laughing stock.


he did scan Puns guilty
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Corrik
05/31/18 2:30:23 PM
#444:


Alakazamtrainer posted...
Question for MI;

How reliable are your reads? Dick Gumshoe isn't known to be reliable in the game. As a matter of fact, he's quite the laughing stock.

Holy fuck every single post you make is scummy.

MI if you live I suggest you scan sceptile slot. Chris going so hard after it could be a bus and his response to my fake scan was scummy.

Or forceful or Han. In that order.
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ScareChan
05/31/18 2:30:35 PM
#445:


HanOfTheNekos posted...
Hey, can we lynch Corrik because he actually knew puns was the kidnapper and said it before puns was lynched?


I also said this and said lynch chris asap

like you are selectively ignoring me except if you think its parroting corrik. whenI came to thoughts seperately and gave my own reasonings on each case
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My Immortal
05/31/18 2:30:58 PM
#446:


I don't think I've actually ever played in a game that has a paranoid cop and only 1 with a naive cop.

I did worry when I got my PM that the game might have secret millers. My flavor says I determine who is innocent / guilty in the eyes of the court. So I thought if I scanned a defendent (Larry Butz for example) I might find them guilty.

But Blue Badger? Not too concerned!
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My Immortal
05/31/18 2:31:48 PM
#447:


DoomTheGyarados posted...
Man MI way to... listen to your role PM and trust it. Fair is fair. But there was really nothing about today that doesn't benefit you from holding off and letting us discuss stuff.

But Chris guilty scans are rare I can't blame you. Still not scum though but you have your duty to do. Will still be around!

I'm proud that I held off this long tbh
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Corrik
05/31/18 2:32:18 PM
#448:


In before someone claims blue badger tomorrow as scum. Let's keep the fun going.

I really thought Chris was going to be godfather. He is most likely scum BP which clears Nana again.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 2:33:03 PM
#449:


ScareChan posted...
HanOfTheNekos posted...
Hey, can we lynch Corrik because he actually knew puns was the kidnapper and said it before puns was lynched?


I also said this and said lynch chris asap

like you are selectively ignoring me except if you think its parroting corrik. whenI came to thoughts seperately and gave my own reasonings on each case


I'm not selectively ignoring you! It's definitely unintentional.
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HanOfTheNekos
05/31/18 2:33:27 PM
#450:


Corrik posted...
He is most likely scum BP which clears Nana again.


lol
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