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Solid Snake07
05/30/18 4:05:46 PM
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That said, she's a complete idiot if she didn't foresee how this would undoubtedly be viewed. Which makes me think she did know that and posted it anyway for attention and controversy, so I don't really have a lot of sympathy.
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Solid Snake07
05/30/18 4:14:31 PM
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bump
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Prestoff
05/30/18 4:15:17 PM
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I'm in the same position as well. With that said, it wasn't the tweet specifically that got her show canned but other employees were also complaining about her. The tweet was just the last straw that broke the camels back.
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VandorLee
05/30/18 4:18:10 PM
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Prestoff posted...
I'm in the same position as well. With that said, it wasn't the tweet specifically that got her show canned but other employees were also complaining about her. The tweet was just the last straw that broke the camels back.


I wish these complaints would come to light.
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Solid Snake07
05/30/18 4:20:16 PM
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VandorLee posted...
Prestoff posted...
I'm in the same position as well. With that said, it wasn't the tweet specifically that got her show canned but other employees were also complaining about her. The tweet was just the last straw that broke the camels back.


I wish these complaints would come to light.


yeah, this is the first I've heard of this. Very curious what those would be
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PrettyBoyFloyd
05/30/18 4:47:52 PM
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Maybe it's a plot or conspiracy just in case she had gone much further with her shenanigans.
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Fin_Dawg_004
05/31/18 1:57:20 AM
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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/roseanne-barr-racist-valerie-jarrett-tweet-also-compared-susan-rice-to-ape/
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_BIueMonk
05/31/18 1:58:53 AM
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and.... Ignored.
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Solid Snake07
05/31/18 2:35:56 AM
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@_BIueMonk posted...
and.... Ignored.


Pretty sure you've said this to me before. Either do it or stfu, no one cares
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Fin_Dawg_004
05/31/18 2:36:41 AM
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tc did the link i posted change your mind on if she meant it in a racist way?
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powerman1426
05/31/18 2:37:06 AM
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pegusus123456
05/31/18 2:39:58 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.

I think you can

You just have to be the most oblivious fucking person on the planet
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Solid Snake07
05/31/18 2:40:21 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.


I mean............the lady doesn't even really look black
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pegusus123456
05/31/18 2:41:06 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
pegusus123456 posted...
I think you can

You just have to be the most oblivious fucking person on the planet

hmmm... perhaps, but that person is not Roseanne Barr

Tbh, I'd say it's 50/50 with her
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creativerealms
05/31/18 2:42:20 AM
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Yeah she was just insulting someone who worked for Obama a favorite pass time of republicans. She wasn't thinking about race.
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Fin_Dawg_004
05/31/18 2:44:28 AM
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typical
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Solid Snake07
05/31/18 2:45:47 AM
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Fin_Dawg_004 posted...
tc did the link i posted change your mind on if she meant it in a racist way?


I think the comment in 2013 looks much worse. I dunno, I find it kind of hard to believe Roseanne is a racist. There are lots of comedians whose opinions I very much trust that would attest to that.
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powerman1426
05/31/18 2:46:08 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.


I mean............the lady doesn't even really look black

That's all you've got? Lol
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CapnMuffin
05/31/18 2:48:00 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.


I mean............the lady doesn't even really look black

Ill be honest. And maybe it was conditioning before hand. But someone posted a picture of her and the first thing that came to mind were those old school planet of the ape costumes. The connection wasnt race oriented. Merely a yeah she kind of reminds me of Zira thing. The same way you might compare any other person to some movie character. The fact comparing black people to apes has historically been used by racists is happen stance.

Now the difference here is a normal person would be sensitive to that and avoid a joke that could connect the dots that way. Roseanne is not a normal person.
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Solid Snake07
05/31/18 2:48:13 AM
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powerman1426 posted...
That's all you've got? Lol


Am I wrong?
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powerman1426
05/31/18 2:51:16 AM
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Hmm, she butchered the national anthem, then grabbed her crotch after finishing the butchery and spit. Is that who you're talking up for here? She's a terrible person, don't buy into the character she played on TV
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devilminion
05/31/18 2:51:56 AM
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powerman1426 posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.


I mean............the lady doesn't even really look black

That's all you've got? Lol


He's not wrong though. Honestly, I thought she was latina. Had to go to wikipedia for find out that her parents were African-American

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Valerie_Jarrett_official_portrait_small.jpg

That said, considering she called her a cross between a muslim and a monkey, and the woman happens to have been born in Iran to African-American parents, it's fairly obvious she knew Valerie's race, and meant it in an offensive way.
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powerman1426
05/31/18 2:55:06 AM
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devilminion posted...
powerman1426 posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.


I mean............the lady doesn't even really look black

That's all you've got? Lol


He's not wrong though. Honestly, I thought she was latina. Had to go to wikipedia for find out that her parents were African-American

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Valerie_Jarrett_official_portrait_small.jpg

Well, I guess her racist tweet must be ok since she got the race wrong then?
Is that the hill you're going to stand on?
Edit: nice edit @devilminion
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devilminion
05/31/18 2:59:45 AM
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powerman1426 posted...
devilminion posted...
powerman1426 posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.


I mean............the lady doesn't even really look black

That's all you've got? Lol


He's not wrong though. Honestly, I thought she was latina. Had to go to wikipedia for find out that her parents were African-American

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Valerie_Jarrett_official_portrait_small.jpg

Well, I guess her racist tweet must be ok since she got the race wrong then?
Is that the hill you're going to stand on?


Calm down, buddy. Didn't say it was okay. Just that she doesn't look black. Just because my post didn't initially attack Rosanne, doesn't mean I was defending her.
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powerman1426
05/31/18 3:04:45 AM
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devilminion posted...
powerman1426 posted...
devilminion posted...
powerman1426 posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.


I mean............the lady doesn't even really look black

That's all you've got? Lol


He's not wrong though. Honestly, I thought she was latina. Had to go to wikipedia for find out that her parents were African-American

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4e/Valerie_Jarrett_official_portrait_small.jpg

Well, I guess her racist tweet must be ok since she got the race wrong then?
Is that the hill you're going to stand on?


Calm down, buddy. Didn't say it was okay. Just that she doesn't look black. Just because my post didn't initially attack Rosanne, doesn't mean I was defending her.

I'm fine, but you were excusing it. A racist statement is a racist statement. "She doesn't look black"
Oh, oops.
That's pretty much your post
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devilminion
05/31/18 3:08:23 AM
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powerman1426 posted...

I'm fine, but you were excusing it. A racist statement is a racist statement. "She doesn't look black"
Oh, oops.
That's pretty much your post


Sounds like you are just eager to argue. I was simply affirming the other dude's post that she didn't look black, not defending or excusing.
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/31/18 3:08:47 AM
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Solid Snake07 posted...
I mean............the lady doesn't even really look black

Which is why she accused Jarrett of LOOKING like a Muslim terrorist. If they're 'kinda black' then right-wingers think that they're terrorists.
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Fin_Dawg_004
05/31/18 3:09:24 AM
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Barenziah Boy Toy posted...
Solid Snake07 posted...
I mean............the lady doesn't even really look black

Which is why she accused Jarrett of LOOKING like a Muslim terrorist. If they're 'kinda black' then right-wingers think that they're terrorists.

she really covered all bases
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powerman1426
05/31/18 3:14:33 AM
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devilminion posted...
powerman1426 posted...

I'm fine, but you were excusing it. A racist statement is a racist statement. "She doesn't look black"
Oh, oops.
That's pretty much your post


Sounds like you are just eager to argue. I was simply affirming the other dude's post that she didn't look black, not defending or excusing.

I'm really not looking to argue. I just don't believe that statements like her's deserve any less consequences than anyone else's.
Any normal person (non celebrity) would likely be fired for similar behavior.
She can say whatever she wants, her employer can do what they want as a result. Equality is a bitch
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devilminion
05/31/18 3:17:55 AM
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powerman1426 posted...
I'm really not looking to argue. I just don't believe that statements like her's deserve any less consequences than anyone else's.
Any normal person (non celebrity) would likely be fired for similar behavior.
She can say whatever she wants, her employer can do what they want as a result. Equality is a bitch


That, we can agree on. Actions have consequences, and she definitely deserves punishment for what she said. Only difference is that a normal person wouldn't also end up costing their co-workers employment. Personally, I would have preferred if they pulled a "House of Cards" on her and reworked the show without her somehow.
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powerman1426
05/31/18 3:23:46 AM
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devilminion posted...
powerman1426 posted...
I'm really not looking to argue. I just don't believe that statements like her's deserve any less consequences than anyone else's.
Any normal person (non celebrity) would likely be fired for similar behavior.
She can say whatever she wants, her employer can do what they want as a result. Equality is a bitch


That, we can agree on. Actions have consequences, and she definitely deserves punishment for what she said. Only difference is that a normal person wouldn't also end up costing their co-workers employment. Personally, I would have preferred if they pulled a "House of Cards" on her and reworked the show without her somehow.

Agreed, she did her coworkers shitty, but they'll be ok. They've been fine for how long?
If they're sore about it, she can shoulder that blame as well. She's a self absorbed attention seeker anyway, they're better without her.
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Patchwork
05/31/18 3:25:05 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.


For the record, don't care about Roseanne. She's a dumbass.

But James Harrison is literally nicknamed Silverback.
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MARKINGRAM22
05/31/18 3:31:46 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.


To be fair, which Im sure people will dismiss it cause politics(not that it doesnt happen on the other side), she is very racially ambiguous. She looks Indian to me personally. Also her hair cut is similar to the lead in the movie.
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ModLogic
05/31/18 4:24:27 AM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.

is that because you yourself hold those views?
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ModLogic
05/31/18 4:10:43 PM
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ModLogic
05/31/18 4:37:43 PM
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because you yourself associate X skin color with Y animal. therefore everyone else must.

which leads to ignorance like
there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.

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Axiom
05/31/18 4:39:30 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
ModLogic posted...
oh ok nuff said. you are simply projecting onto others.

projecting what? what the fuck are you even trying to get at?

tehdud's new gimmick is calling people who don't like racism racists (Which of course never makes any sense) while posting racist shit himself
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ModLogic
05/31/18 4:45:11 PM
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if a kid at school was crowned the king of the monkey bars. according to you lot. if the skin color of the "king" happens to be X and the skin color of the kid referring to them as the "king" happens to be Y.

it MUST be racism, because
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Antifar
05/31/18 4:49:59 PM
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You have to have a better imaginary example than that
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CapnMuffin
05/31/18 5:07:03 PM
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Antifar posted...
You have to have a better imaginary example than that

A black child model is shooting for an online store catalog and one of the products he is wearing is a coolest monkey of the jungle hoodie.

Oh wait, that did actually happen.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/31/18 5:16:07 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.


But... but... a woman at a park called her WHITE toddler a little monkey yesterday, so anytime anyone says that, maybe it isn't racist!
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RoboLaserGandhi
05/31/18 5:18:21 PM
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Honestly yeah, she's a comedian who at the end of the day was just trying to be funny and missed the mark.

Roseanne's comedy is extremely blunt and often involves insults. This was pretty routine for her but it crossed a couple boundaries that no one would ever overlook today.
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A_Good_Boy
05/31/18 5:20:54 PM
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RoboLaserGandhi posted...
Honestly yeah, she's a comedian who at the end of the day was just trying to be funny and missed the mark.

Jokes have a setup and a punchline. If a racial slur is your setup then it's hard to argue that you meant anything but the initial slur.
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FairyLeviathan
05/31/18 5:20:55 PM
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DuranOfForcena posted...
I don't think Roseanne meant her tweet in a racist way


she did. there is no possible way to refer to a black person as an ape and not intend for it to be racist.

Black people can't behave like primates?
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Fin_Dawg_004
05/31/18 7:21:22 PM
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good fucking lord
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Barenziah Boy Toy
05/31/18 7:57:37 PM
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FairyLeviathan posted...
Black people can't behave like primates?

Roseanne said that Jarrett LOOKED like a monkey.
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