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Annihilated
05/27/18 3:02:41 PM
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dave_is_slick posted...
Annihilated posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
lol. You guys can love America without reciting anthems and scripts...you know that, right?

And you can hate America without being a whiny little bitch every time anyone does anything remotely patriotic.

Exactly! So then the NFL shouldn't have caved, glad you came around!


Do you think you're talking to someone else? That reply makes 0 sense.
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MedzXVIII
05/27/18 3:04:09 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Ah, America, the only place on earth where it?s awful to have pride in your country.

It is great to have pride in your country


Why?

In my opinion it is better to have pride in what you are apart of than hating what you are apart of. America is not perfect. We can always make it better to be proud of ourselves and fellow countrymen than to have a hate not give a care attitude.
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jborgan
05/27/18 3:04:23 PM
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Annihilated posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
lol. You guys can love America without reciting anthems and scripts...you know that, right?

And you can hate America without being a whiny little bitch every time anyone does anything remotely patriotic.

Likewise to you anytime somebody decides they don't want to shout how much they love America at the top of their lungs every 30 seconds.
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TheVipaGTS
05/27/18 3:05:39 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Ah, America, the only place on earth where its awful to have pride in your country.

Ah, gators. Purposely missing the point again.

So then whats the point?

Annihilated with the perfect response.

The point is getting upset or taking offense to OTHERS not singing the anthem is going beyond just having pride for your country. Whoever organized the game wasnt going to have the anthem performed and the fact that they booed and were seemingly upset about that is stupid to me. Also I dont hate America so his response wasnt perfect. I just dont need to sing a 200 year old song ever time I watch sports to prove how much I like the country
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MedzXVIII
05/27/18 3:06:34 PM
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jborgan posted...
Annihilated posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
lol. You guys can love America without reciting anthems and scripts...you know that, right?

And you can hate America without being a whiny little bitch every time anyone does anything remotely patriotic.

Likewise to you anytime somebody decides they don't want to shout how much they love America at the top of their lungs every 30 seconds.

Is it the same if someone shouts out I hate America at the top of their lungs every 30 seconds?
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/27/18 3:30:23 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Ah, America, the only place on earth where it?s awful to have pride in your country.

It is great to have pride in your country


Why?

In my opinion it is better to have pride in what you are apart of than hating what you are apart of. America is not perfect. We can always make it better to be proud of ourselves and fellow countrymen than to have a hate not give a care attitude.


So there is no such thing as anything other than pride or hate?
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MedzXVIII
05/27/18 3:44:29 PM
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Ah, America, the only place on earth where it?s awful to have pride in your country.

It is great to have pride in your country


Why?

In my opinion it is better to have pride in what you are apart of than hating what you are apart of. America is not perfect. We can always make it better to be proud of ourselves and fellow countrymen than to have a hate not give a care attitude.


So there is no such thing as anything other than pride or hate?

No care attitude and passive attitude.
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catboy0_0
05/27/18 3:45:09 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
The baby part comes in for the fact that they took it as some sort of offense. Like the fact that the anthem isnt played before a random sporting event is a terrible thing that they need to voice. Weve been conditioned o expect before sports for some reason and I still dont understand why. Not before movies or a concert. Its not expected at any other entertainment event. But its not sung before a local sports event and people lose their minds..

How do you know they took actual offense? Furthermore, why would any one give a fuck if you think they did?
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MonkeyBones23
05/27/18 3:51:39 PM
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The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.
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hockeybub89
05/27/18 3:52:12 PM
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MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/27/18 3:55:58 PM
#62:


MedzXVIII posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Ah, America, the only place on earth where it?s awful to have pride in your country.

It is great to have pride in your country


Why?

In my opinion it is better to have pride in what you are apart of than hating what you are apart of. America is not perfect. We can always make it better to be proud of ourselves and fellow countrymen than to have a hate not give a care attitude.


So there is no such thing as anything other than pride or hate?

No care attitude and passive attitude.


I have a mixed attitude personally.
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MedzXVIII
05/27/18 3:56:21 PM
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hockeybub89 posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

How so?
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MedzXVIII
05/27/18 4:02:58 PM
#64:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Ah, America, the only place on earth where it?s awful to have pride in your country.

It is great to have pride in your country


Why?

In my opinion it is better to have pride in what you are apart of than hating what you are apart of. America is not perfect. We can always make it better to be proud of ourselves and fellow countrymen than to have a hate not give a care attitude.


So there is no such thing as anything other than pride or hate?

No care attitude and passive attitude.


I have a mixed attitude personally.

Nothing wrong with that. I would be lying if I said I never had a mixed attitude on an issue. Some things in life take time to figure out and some things stay mixed.
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MonkeyBones23
05/27/18 4:03:01 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

How so?


Just the overexerted patriotism, American exceptionalism, and "America is number 1" attitude is annoying, leads to negativity to other cultures for no reason, and bad for global politics.
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MedzXVIII
05/27/18 4:08:40 PM
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MonkeyBones23 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

How so?


Just the overexerted patriotism, American exceptionalism, and "America is number 1" attitude is annoying, leads to negativity to other cultures for no reason, and bad for global politics.

If a Canadian says Canada is number one I will not cry about it.
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TheVipaGTS
05/27/18 4:10:50 PM
#67:


MedzXVIII posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

How so?


Just the overexerted patriotism, American exceptionalism, and "America is number 1" attitude is annoying, leads to negativity to other cultures for no reason, and bad for global politics.

If a Canadian says Canada is number one I will not cry about it.

But thats not whats happening. A better comparison would be if the Canadian said you didnt stand for our anthem? Why do you hate Canada?
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MedzXVIII
05/27/18 4:14:51 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

How so?


Just the overexerted patriotism, American exceptionalism, and "America is number 1" attitude is annoying, leads to negativity to other cultures for no reason, and bad for global politics.

If a Canadian says Canada is number one I will not cry about it.

But thats not whats happening. A better comparison would be if the Canadian said you didnt stand for our anthem? Why do you hate Canada?

In my opinion that is disrespect. Stand for the anthems. It is okay to show respect to other countries.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/27/18 4:15:57 PM
#69:


MedzXVIII posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

How so?


Just the overexerted patriotism, American exceptionalism, and "America is number 1" attitude is annoying, leads to negativity to other cultures for no reason, and bad for global politics.

If a Canadian says Canada is number one I will not cry about it.


I'm American and I say Canada is probably better than America, but I don't have proof and would have to live in Canada for a while to determine whether or not my speculation is accurate.
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MonkeyBones23
05/27/18 4:16:34 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

How so?


Just the overexerted patriotism, American exceptionalism, and "America is number 1" attitude is annoying, leads to negativity to other cultures for no reason, and bad for global politics.

If a Canadian says Canada is number one I will not cry about it.


It's not about you. It's the entire collective doing it that's the problem, which wouldn't be done if as I said we weren't conditioned to think so growing up. People from other countries watch about our news because of the influence America has. When many countries are watching our news and seeing our politicians clamor about how great we are and better than everyone else it's annoying and creates conflict and negativity when there is no reason to.
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TheVipaGTS
05/27/18 4:18:10 PM
#71:


MedzXVIII posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

How so?


Just the overexerted patriotism, American exceptionalism, and "America is number 1" attitude is annoying, leads to negativity to other cultures for no reason, and bad for global politics.

If a Canadian says Canada is number one I will not cry about it.

But thats not whats happening. A better comparison would be if the Canadian said you didnt stand for our anthem? Why do you hate Canada?

In my opinion that is disrespect. Stand for the anthems. It is okay to show respect to other countries.


If they said that to another Canadian. But this particular event isnt even a case of unwritten anthem etiquette. If the fans simply decided to sing without the boos Id feel differently. This notion that if you dont adhere to a code for the anthem then you automatically hate this country is idiotic and goes against everything the country stands for. (No pun intended). Like its a baseball game...not even a big one. A local amateur softball game. Why does the anthem NEED to be sung is the question. Its cool that it is. No real issue there. But clearly people NEED it for some reason.
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MedzXVIII
05/27/18 4:22:38 PM
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I stand during Canadian anthem. I put my hand over my heart during the United States of America Anthem. I do not see any thing wrong with that. Please reply your agreements or disagreements
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TheVipaGTS
05/27/18 4:25:14 PM
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MedzXVIII posted...
I stand during Canadian anthem. I put my hand over my heart during the United States of America Anthem. I do not see any thing wrong with that. Please reply your agreements or disagreements

I also see nothing wrong with it. Im not attacking people who do that. Im calling out people who think if I dont do that then I hate this country. St least two people said that to me itt alone.

That and the fact that these people seem to think they NEED the anthem sung before a sporting event. Like if its not sung they just committed a huge sin.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/27/18 4:35:23 PM
#74:


MedzXVIII posted...
I stand during Canadian anthem. I put my hand over my heart during the United States of America Anthem. I do not see any thing wrong with that. Please reply your agreements or disagreements


Both are boring. I always mute the tv. Sometimes I will listen to the Canadian one just because I don't hear it as often (typically just for hockey). At an actual event, I've stood, but haven't been to one since before all of this. Not sure what I would do now.
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Alucard188
05/27/18 4:43:21 PM
#75:


MedzXVIII posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

How so?


Just the overexerted patriotism, American exceptionalism, and "America is number 1" attitude is annoying, leads to negativity to other cultures for no reason, and bad for global politics.

If a Canadian says Canada is number one I will not cry about it.


The only source of nationalistic pride Canada observes is through international hockey tournaments. Otherwise, we're content to just do our thing.
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Serious Cat
05/27/18 5:12:04 PM
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They weren't saying "Boo". They were saying Boo-SA.
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DavidWong
05/27/18 5:17:31 PM
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Patriotism/nationalism is idiotic.
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MedzXVIII
05/27/18 6:03:39 PM
#78:


MonkeyBones23 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

How so?


Just the overexerted patriotism, American exceptionalism, and "America is number 1" attitude is annoying, leads to negativity to other cultures for no reason, and bad for global politics.

If a Canadian says Canada is number one I will not cry about it.


It's not about you. It's the entire collective doing it that's the problem, which wouldn't be done if as I said we weren't conditioned to think so growing up. People from other countries watch about our news because of the influence America has. When many countries are watching our news and seeing our politicians clamor about how great we are and better than everyone else it's annoying and creates conflict and negativity when there is no reason to.

If a Canadian says Canada is number one is it not about him/her?
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MedzXVIII
05/27/18 6:05:34 PM
#79:


TheVipaGTS posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
MedzXVIII posted...
hockeybub89 posted...
MonkeyBones23 posted...
The conditioning of the national anthem is ridiculous.

How so?


Just the overexerted patriotism, American exceptionalism, and "America is number 1" attitude is annoying, leads to negativity to other cultures for no reason, and bad for global politics.

If a Canadian says Canada is number one I will not cry about it.

But thats not whats happening. A better comparison would be if the Canadian said you didnt stand for our anthem? Why do you hate Canada?

If a Canadian does not stand for the Canadian Anthem and a fellow Canadian ask why I do not see anything wrong with that
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MedzXVIII
05/27/18 6:20:41 PM
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Both teams and the crowd wanted the anthem responded in a peaceful way and sang the anthem together.
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cjsdowg
05/27/18 6:29:03 PM
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If the Anthem is so key , why don't they sing the full song ?
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gatorsPENSbucs
05/27/18 7:52:27 PM
#82:


TheVipaGTS posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Ah, America, the only place on earth where its awful to have pride in your country.

Ah, gators. Purposely missing the point again.

So then whats the point?

Annihilated with the perfect response.

The point is getting upset or taking offense to OTHERS not singing the anthem is going beyond just having pride for your country. Whoever organized the game wasnt going to have the anthem performed and the fact that they booed and were seemingly upset about that is stupid to me. Also I dont hate America so his response wasnt perfect. I just dont need to sing a 200 year old song ever time I watch sports to prove how much I like the country

So who the fuck cares if they wanna do it or not. People boo all the time and 95% of the time its for some dumb reason. Getting mad at that part is just getting mad for no reason. Getting mad that they sang the anthem, again, is getting mad for no reason. Youre creating dumb shit to get mad at.

And the people talking about all of this are the people that are sick of it. Its all of you making these topics, making these news stories. You are the ones making it a big deal
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TheVipaGTS
05/27/18 8:04:27 PM
#83:


Can you not read? I didnt get mad that they sang the anthem...
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gatorsPENSbucs
05/27/18 8:45:49 PM
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Oh I have no idea, I didnt go back and read anything. Just went with it.

Yah, I was just kinda talking in general. You I guess not necessarily meant you, you.
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BrapEnthusiast
05/27/18 8:52:38 PM
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not surprised this would trigger communists and antifa types.
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TheVipaGTS
05/27/18 9:19:54 PM
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gatorsPENSbucs posted...
Oh I have no idea, I didnt go back and read anything. Just went with it.

Yah, I was just kinda talking in general. You I guess not necessarily meant you, you.

You responded to something you didnt even read?
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ProbablyaCat
05/27/18 9:44:15 PM
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If it's performed before the vast majority of games, then it's no surprise that the crowd interpreted it not being played as a political statement and protested that.
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