Poll of the Day > 38 y/o Conservative Blames LIBERALS for his FAILING BUSINESS in Oregon!!!

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38 y/o Crybaby, Wesley Dameron, a former Trampoline Park owner said he had to SHUT DOWN his 2 businesses in Oregon because of "litigious millenial parents" and the state's introduction of a higher minimum wage and stat sick leave for part time workers!!

The G6 Airpark owner wrote a long diatribe explaining his decision to close the sites in Portland and Vancouver which he railed against Democrats and Parents who "don't take responsibility for their children"

He said parents sign a waiver accepting their children were involved in a risky activity but then still sue the park when their kids break a leg.

He said "We live in a part of the US where there is an extraordinary problem with parents, especially millenial parents, not taking responsibility for their decisions or actions. Infact, this is a problem across the US and is manifested by our ridiculously litigious society. If you get hurt, it's always someone else's fault"

However, in April 2016, G6 was sued by 29 y/o Kyle Burford who broke his neck and dislocated a pair of vertebrae the year before as he claims the trampolines were "unreasonably dangerous" and there wasn't enough staff to mintor them..he has since DIED from his injuries in December!!

But Wesley says that liberals were hurting small businesses after they voted to increase the wage from 11.25 to 14.75 by 2022 and all employees must receive 40 hours of paid sick leave even if they were part time.

He's outraged that he had to pay part time high school students with no experience and no skill set these wages..

Now after closing the parks, he plans to open a 55,000 sqft "mega entertainment facility" in 2020 that will not only include trampolines but a roller skating rink, rock climbing wall and laser tag and parkour.

Although the project will cost 10 million, he claims his "multiple revenue streams" will offset the losses

Do you think these Liberal laws are to blame for his failing business?.

Wesley - Crybaby

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/18/16/4C66E84B00000578-5745455-image-m-17_1526658103647.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/18/16/4C66E84700000578-5745455-image-m-32_1526658480537.jpg

Kyle - Died because of his business

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/19/07/4C6AD8A900000578-5745455-image-m-4_1526711890240.jpg

G6 - Defunct

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/19/07/4C6AD93100000578-5745455-image-a-5_1526711901268.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/newpix/2018/05/18/16/4C66E5B700000578-5745455-image-a-18_1526658145495.jpg
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Complaining about liberals in Oregon? He does know where he is, right?
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Well, those policies might have played a part, but it sounds like the litigious parents were more to blame.
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Do you have a link to a story where he blames liberals? I've read through a few and can't seem to find the word "liberal" or "democrat" in them.

He simply blames recent laws that have increased minimum wage and required 40 hours of paid sick time. There are plenty of small businesses that have had to close shop due to a jump in minimum wage. I don't buy the excuse of minimum wage being a factor but he has a point about people who blindly sign liability waviers. And he's not wrong about the ridiculousness of giving part time high schoolers with no skills/experience 40 hours of sick time.
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He said "We live in a part of the US where there is an extraordinary problem with parents, especially millenial parents, not taking responsibility for their decisions or actions. Infact, this is a problem across the US and is manifested by our ridiculously litigious society. If you get hurt, it's always someone else's fault"

It isnt like this is anything new, weve been a lawsuit-happy country since the 90s. This isnt about millennial parents, its about anyone and everyone feeling like they have a chance to get money in a lawsuit if they feel theyve been wronged, even after signing an agreement.

Im not saying its right that lawsuits are so prevelant in the US, but if you wanna open a business with a high risk toward client injuries, enter at your own risk.
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The Popo posted...

He said "We live in a part of the US where there is an extraordinary problem with parents, especially millenial parents, not taking responsibility for their decisions or actions. Infact, this is a problem across the US and is manifested by our ridiculously litigious society. If you get hurt, it's always someone else's fault"

It isnt like this is anything new, weve been a lawsuit-happy country since the 90s. This isnt about millennial parents, its about anyone and everyone feeling like they have a chance to get money in a lawsuit if they feel theyve been wronged, even after signing an agreement.

Im not saying its right that lawsuits are so prevelant in the US, but if you wanna open a business with a high risk toward client injuries, enter at your own risk.

If they sign an agreement then they can't sue since they wouldn't get any money.
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Sounds to me like he just didn't have a good draw for business, so now he's blaming other people for his failures.
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The Popo posted...

enter at your own risk.

That's the problem though, literally anywhere and everywhere can be sued for exorbitant amounts for banal bullshit. Even if you comprehensively spell out each and every risk for someone beforehand, they can still come back and sue you and have a chance of winning, and even if they don't win you still have to pay thousands upon thousands of dollars in legal fees. It's absolutely fucking insane.
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Full Throttle posted...

millenial parents

That's a kinda scary word in this context...
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Keebs05 posted...

but he has a point about people who blindly sign liability waviers

Revelation34 posted...

If they sign an agreement then they can't sue since they wouldn't get any money.

Realistically how strong do those even hold up in court? Not directly related but years ago I was with friends who were bungee jumping off a bridge and same thing, they all signed a waiver saying they will not hold the bungee company at fault should anything goes wrong. A bungee jumper off to the side commented that the waiver will not hold up in court. I've heard this mentioned before when to other waivers.

On one hand, yes, the jumpers signed the waiver. On the other hand, should the equipment be faulty in anyway, who is really to blame? The jumpers for doing it with the assumption said equipment is safe or the company for letting faulty equipment slip by?
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Keebs05 posted...

Do you have a link to a story where he blames liberals? I've read through a few and can't seem to find the word "liberal" or "democrat" in them.

He simply blames recent laws that have increased minimum wage and required 40 hours of paid sick time. There are plenty of small businesses that have had to close shop due to a jump in minimum wage. I don't buy the excuse of minimum wage being a factor but he has a point about people who blindly sign liability waviers. And he's not wrong about the ridiculousness of giving part time high schoolers with no skills/experience 40 hours of sick time.

Yep. Sort of how I feel about all of this.
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If a business owner can't afford to give their workers a fair wage, then they're already on the brink of failing. Anyone should be able to live on a 40-hour-a-week pay.

Also, pretty sure conservative parents who had a child break their neck would be just as likely to sue as liberal parents. This guy doesn't sound that smart, really.
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Because it's easier to blame everything on liberals than accept personal responsibility.
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I blame liberals for my failing patience on the internet.
Well, mainly just Duckbear.
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Did had a kid die on his watch. The trampolines were in safe and sounds like he didn't really have good staff. Sound s like his business was just shit. Yeah I get the waiver thing, but that's only viable if the attendy is paying attention and the equipment is safe. Those waivers don't mean you can let people play on unsafe equipment, that be fuckin stupid and I am sure he thinks that.
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InfestedAdam posted...

Realistically how strong do those even hold up in court? Not directly related but years ago I was with friends who were bungee jumping off a bridge and same thing, they all signed a waiver saying they will not hold the bungee company at fault should anything goes wrong. A bungee jumper off to the side commented that the waiver will not hold up in court. I've heard this mentioned before when to other waivers.

On one hand, yes, the jumpers signed the waiver. On the other hand, should the equipment be faulty in anyway, who is really to blame? The jumpers for doing it with the assumption said equipment is safe or the company for letting faulty equipment slip by?

Well in the case of faulty equipment that's a different case and invalidates a waiver. People breaking rules and goofing off then getting hurt then suing is what a lot of these people do.
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Actually the frivolous litigation thing IS a huge problem in our society.

I dont know the facts of what happened in the cases brought against them or if there was merit to those but the simple truth is that many people just throw the dice and hope to see some money back and use the court system as a form of legalized extortion.

While large companies lik McDonalds or Wendys can afford to pay off frivolous claims as a cost of doing business, a smaller or kid sized corporation can be seriously hurt by that. If they have to pay out $200,000 in legal fees to defend a case that is claiming $500,000 then of course they will settle.

If people suing had to pay the winners legal fees then this would weed out the strike it rich cases.

Again I dont know what went on in this guys cases or if that applies but it is in fact a real concern, it has been decades ago and probably before.
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Full Throttle posted...

Now after closing the parks, he plans to open a 55,000 sqft "mega entertainment facility" in 2020 that will not only include trampolines but a roller skating rink, rock climbing wall and laser tag and parkour.

Okay this sounds pretty amazing.

I know something to do in oregon if I ever visit in the future.
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bulbinking posted...

Full Throttle posted...

Now after closing the parks, he plans to open a 55,000 sqft "mega entertainment facility" in 2020 that will not only include trampolines but a roller skating rink, rock climbing wall and laser tag and parkour.

Okay this sounds pretty amazing.

I know something to do in oregon if I ever visit in the future.

Voodoo Donuts already exists.
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Revelation34 posted...

The Popo posted...

He said "We live in a part of the US where there is an extraordinary problem with parents, especially millenial parents, not taking responsibility for their decisions or actions. Infact, this is a problem across the US and is manifested by our ridiculously litigious society. If you get hurt, it's always someone else's fault"

It isnt like this is anything new, weve been a lawsuit-happy country since the 90s. This isnt about millennial parents, its about anyone and everyone feeling like they have a chance to get money in a lawsuit if they feel theyve been wronged, even after signing an agreement.

Im not saying its right that lawsuits are so prevelant in the US, but if you wanna open a business with a high risk toward client injuries, enter at your own risk.

If they sign an agreement then they can't sue since they wouldn't get any money.

Those agreements can easily get tossed out of court, keeping them open for a lawsuit.

Nichtcrawler X posted...

Full Throttle posted...

millenial parents

That's a kinda scary word in this context...

Millennials are turning 30+ so it's not that unusual for some of them to already have kids, especially since women tend to enter parenthood at a younger age. iirc, the average age for first-time motherhood nowadays is like 26.
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Zeus posted...

Those agreements can easily get tossed out of court, keeping them open for a lawsuit.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76637838/901974958
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Revelation34 posted...

Zeus posted...

Those agreements can easily get tossed out of court, keeping them open for a lawsuit.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76637838/901974958

I'm not talking specifically about faulty equipment.
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Full Throttle posted...

Now after closing the parks, he plans to open a 55,000 sqft "mega entertainment facility" in 2020 that will not only include trampolines but a roller skating rink, rock climbing wall and laser tag and parkour.

Sounds like he's just been absolutely ruined financially.

Zeus posted...

Revelation34 posted...

Zeus posted...

Those agreements can easily get tossed out of court, keeping them open for a lawsuit.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/3-poll-of-the-day/76637838/901974958

I'm not talking specifically about faulty equipment.

They shouldn't be thrown out if somebody injured themselves and are just looking for a payday.
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