Current Events > Even though leftists keep winning, Bernie's people are not helping them do it

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Balrog0
05/21/18 11:49:28 AM
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https://www.politico.com/story/2018/05/21/bernie-sanders-democrats-2018-599331

Bernie Sanders top operatives formed Our Revolution after he lost the 2016 primaries to keep his army organized and motivated and potentially prepare for another presidential run in 2020.

But an extensive review of the Sanders-inspired group depicts an organization in disarray operating primarily as a promotional vehicle for its leader and sometimes even snubbing candidates aligned with Sanders. Our Revolution has shown no ability to tip a major Democratic election in its favor despite possessing Sanders email list, the envy of the Democratic Party and can claim no major wins in 2018 as its own.

The result has left many Sanders supporters disillusioned, feeling that the group that was supposed to harness the senator's grass-roots movement is failing in its mission. The problems have also fueled doubts about Sanders organizational ability heading into 2020, even after his out-of-nowhere near-march to the nomination two years ago. Critics of the Vermont independent had been worried hed have a juggernaut-in-waiting to fuel a second presidential campaign, but that anxiety has faded after watching Our Revolution the past year and a half.

Though Jones and Lamb were ideologically to the right of Our Revolution, the group also had no part in either of the Sanders wings big primary wins a week ago. In Pennsylvania, Sanders endorsed Braddock Mayor John Fetterman in the lieutenant governors race; he went on to beat the incumbent Pennsylvania lieutenant governor, without the endorsement or backing of Our Revolution.

And in Nebraska, Kara Eastman, who was backed broadly by progressives, upset former centrist Rep. Brad Ashford in a House primary. Our Revolution skipped that election as well.

Our Revolution has frustrated Democrats by staying on the sidelines of so many races. Northams 2017 general election campaign was the World Series of politics, said Virginia Democratic Party chairwoman Susan Swecker, and they chose not to go to the game. Its also left the group without tangible successes to point to or allies in power wholl be able to help it or Sanders down the line.

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Muffinz0rz
05/21/18 11:55:02 AM
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Balrog0 posted...
leftists keep winning

eh?
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mario2000
05/21/18 11:56:20 AM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Balrog0 posted...
leftists keep winning

eh?

well the rightists certainly aren't winning
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Error1355
05/21/18 11:56:57 AM
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Whatabout upists?
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CyricZ
05/21/18 11:56:59 AM
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Well, "Bernie's people" may still have cause to take some credit, just not specifically the "Our Revolution" group.
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mario2000
05/21/18 11:57:26 AM
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Error1355 posted...
Whatabout upists?

they're feeling pretty down...ist
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Balrog0
05/21/18 11:58:25 AM
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CyricZ posted...
Well, "Bernie's people" may still have cause to take some credit, just not specifically the "Our Revolution" group.


by his people, I mean his campaign apparatus

I would expect many of the people fueling this rise in leftists in the democratic party also voted for him, yeah
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southcoast09
05/21/18 12:01:38 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Balrog0 posted...
leftists keep winning

eh?

I know, right? Just let them say it.
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Balrog0
05/21/18 12:02:31 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Balrog0 posted...
leftists keep winning

eh?

I know, right? Just let them say it.


I don't understand what you guys are asking or why you are confused. The article that I posted mentions several of these wins, and I excepted some of them in the OP.
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pogo_rabid
05/21/18 12:20:57 PM
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Still trying to blame bernie for the DNC's bullshit?
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John_Galt
05/21/18 12:33:00 PM
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"Revolution"

Lmao. Whatever, comrades
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clearaflagrantj
05/21/18 12:36:07 PM
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> DNC colludes with Hillary, rigs democratic nomination, loses the general to Trump

DNC: Why don't these Bernie Bros support us?
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Balrog0
05/21/18 12:40:36 PM
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I don't think you guys are getting the point of this article for some reason
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Antifar
05/21/18 12:40:58 PM
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Balrog0 posted...
Our Revolution has frustrated Democrats by staying on the sidelines of so many races. Northams 2017 general election campaign was the World Series of politics, said Virginia Democratic Party chairwoman Susan Swecker, and they chose not to go to the game. Its also left the group without tangible successes to point to or allies in power wholl be able to help it or Sanders down the line.

Didn't Northam take a dump on immigrants like the week before the election? There are good reasons why Our Revolution might not hop on board with every Democratic candidate. The other examples in this story make more sense than Northam.

Likewise, later in the story...

Last week, Our Revolution endorsed actress Cynthia Nixon in the primary for New York governor after she filled out a questionnaire and did an interview with a local affiliate. But an aide to her opponent, Democratic Gov. Andrew Cuomo, who last year was joined by Sanders at an event promoting a state initiative on the senators signature issue of free college, said his campaign knew nothing of the process and learned of the endorsement from a press release.


Andrew Cuomo is not gonna get this endorsement no matter the process.

I can't speak to the inner workings of OR, but I think there's a tension at play here. Given that the Democratic Party has been criticized for a lack of transparency and favoritism towards moderate candidates, do you, as an outside organization ostensibly seeking to rectify this:
A) Exemplify the sort of transparency and fairness in your endorsement decisions that you would like to see from the party
B) Serve as an ideological counterweight, choosing to back left-wing candidates whenever possible

Some of the criticism in this article (particularly that bit about Cuomo) seems to expect A from Our Revolution, but I think there are problems of asymmetry with that path. What good is extending an olive branch or whatever to Andrew Cuomo when the party will in no way do the same for his opponent?
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SwordMaster13X
05/21/18 1:06:30 PM
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Has the Justice Democrats done anything?
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GameOver3
05/21/18 1:12:08 PM
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pogo_rabid posted...
Still trying to blame bernie for the DNC's bullshit?

LMAO what are you talking about? This article is about how Bernie and his klan have failed to endorse anyone who has won. The left is winning without them, we need to stop catering to their needs when they aren't bringing anything to the table.
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Balrog0
05/21/18 1:13:44 PM
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SwordMaster13X posted...
Has the Justice Democrats done anything?


the only thing I know or have heard about that group is that all of their currently sitting members of congress folded like umbrellas and voted for that blue lives matter law or w/e

might not even be true, just what the social medias told me
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NinjaWarrior455
05/21/18 1:17:22 PM
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GameOver3 posted...
pogo_rabid posted...
Still trying to blame bernie for the DNC's bullshit?

LMAO what are you talking about? This article is about how Bernie and his klan have failed to endorse anyone who has won. The left is winning without them, we need to stop catering to their needs when they aren't bringing anything to the table.

So you also didn't read the article.
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-Bungle-
05/21/18 1:17:50 PM
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southcoast09 posted...
Muffinz0rz posted...
Balrog0 posted...
leftists keep winning

eh?

I know, right? Just let them say it.

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Antifar
05/21/18 1:18:29 PM
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GameOver3 posted...
This article is about how Bernie and his klan have failed to endorse anyone who has won.

That's an exaggeration at best
https://wapo.st/2rTLFt9
Sanders-backed candidates are 10 for 21 this election cycle, while 46 of the 111 who had the support of Our Revolution, the group Sanders started after his presidential bid, triumphed. There have been some notable losses, including Tom Perriello in Virginias Democratic primary for governor last year and gubernatorial hopeful Dennis Kucinich in Ohio this month, who was backed by Our Revolution but not Sanders.

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Balrog0
05/21/18 1:19:08 PM
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Antifar posted...
GameOver3 posted...
This article is about how Bernie and his klan have failed to endorse anyone who has won.

But that's not true:
https://wapo.st/2rTLFt9
Sanders-backed candidates are 10 for 21 this election cycle, while 46 of the 111 who had the support of Our Revolution, the group Sanders started after his presidential bid, triumphed. There have been some notable losses, including Tom Perriello in Virginias Democratic primary for governor last year and gubernatorial hopeful Dennis Kucinich in Ohio this month, who was backed by Our Revolution but not Sanders.


right, it is about the fact that they haven't successfully moved the needle in any race they've weighed in on. They have endorsed people who are a shoe-in to win.
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