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WalkingLobsters
05/20/18 3:54:32 PM
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how come there is very little crime?
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Lorenzo_2003
05/20/18 3:55:40 PM
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Nobody provide the reasons. You gonna get suspended.
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alimajor
05/20/18 3:55:47 PM
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Scared to get in trouble
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BuckVanHammer
05/20/18 3:57:43 PM
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They hate freedom
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Vicious_Dios
05/20/18 3:58:30 PM
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Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Nobody provide the reasons. You gonna get suspended.


For what? Providing facts?
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_BIueMonk
05/20/18 3:59:16 PM
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i used to live in korea. and i can tell you why

but i wont
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VTBM
05/20/18 3:59:51 PM
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Solar_Crimson
05/20/18 4:04:05 PM
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Vicious_Dios posted...
Lorenzo_2003 posted...
Nobody provide the reasons. You gonna get suspended.


For what? Providing facts?

Let me guess, something about diversity?
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FrenchCrunch
05/20/18 4:06:33 PM
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everyone there works too hard and too often to have any energy for crime
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GiftedACIII
05/20/18 4:12:48 PM
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They don't glorify violence. Same reason why many other developed countries don't have as much crime rates. It's really only a few developed countries that do.
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Trigg3rH4ppy
05/20/18 4:13:18 PM
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They have a different culture with different social standards and are much more concerned with pride, honor, and self worth. To be a thief or a criminal is unbecoming.
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WalkingLobsters
05/20/18 4:13:51 PM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
They have a different culture with different social standards and are much more concerned with pride, honor, and self worth

but why is this the case?
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Guy_Fieri
05/20/18 4:15:53 PM
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Trigg3rH4ppy
05/20/18 4:56:33 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
They have a different culture with different social standards and are much more concerned with pride, honor, and self worth

but why is this the case?

*Shrugs*

That's how society developed there.
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Muffinz0rz
05/20/18 4:58:31 PM
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Something about guns
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Kazi1212
05/20/18 5:04:04 PM
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Because they are tougher on crime and actually respect the police? I doubt they call their law enforcement officers pigs like we so casually do
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WalkingLobsters
05/20/18 5:08:58 PM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
WalkingLobsters posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
They have a different culture with different social standards and are much more concerned with pride, honor, and self worth

but why is this the case?

*Shrugs*

That's how society developed there.

but why?
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WalkingLobsters
05/20/18 9:04:26 PM
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bump
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Unsugarized_Foo
05/20/18 9:05:29 PM
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racism
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FightingGames
05/20/18 9:06:52 PM
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it probably stems from the original fact that they put higher emphasis of respecting elders
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Zikten
05/20/18 9:08:48 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
WalkingLobsters posted...
Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
They have a different culture with different social standards and are much more concerned with pride, honor, and self worth

but why is this the case?

*Shrugs*

That's how society developed there.

but why?

I can offer up a theory at least. I saw something similar to this once in an article I read about why Japan doesn't like games like Elder Scrolls and prefer linear games. basically, their society was always regulated and everyone had a role in society that they stuck to. in Japan, you just stick to your social class and role. and if you defy that, your causing problems. everyone just fits into holes fitted perfectly for them. and this would impact crime too. most normal Japanese don't want to stand out. so they wouldn't want to become a criminal. in America, our history and society is all about doing your own thing and striking out for adventure and discovery. people don't care as much about causing problems
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billcom6
05/20/18 9:10:28 PM
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centuries of ingrained shame
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dameon_reaper
05/20/18 9:11:47 PM
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What are you talking about "Less crime?" There's like 900 episodes of Detective Conan that makes this obviously not true >_>
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ShinobiNinjaX
05/20/18 9:24:38 PM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
how come there is very little crime?

Their suicide rates are sky high, and that's likely the "solution" they turn to more so than criminal activity in desperate times.
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Ammonitida
05/20/18 9:25:57 PM
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Japan is mostly old people, and old people commit much less crime than young people.
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Joelypoely
05/20/18 9:29:03 PM
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Muffinz0rz posted...
Something about guns

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sou
05/21/18 1:19:33 AM
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dameon_reaper posted...
What are you talking about "Less crime?" There's like 900 episodes of Detective Conan that makes this obviously not true >_>
Additionally, not even a year has passed in the story's timeline.
So Conan is solving 2-3 murders cases per day.
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FFVII_REMAKE
05/21/18 1:26:25 AM
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Cultural values. Most traditional families discipline themselves and their children. Not all are successful but a majority of them are which is why you don't often see them committing crimes and striving to be wealthy.
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dameon_reaper
05/21/18 1:29:50 AM
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sou posted...
dameon_reaper posted...
What are you talking about "Less crime?" There's like 900 episodes of Detective Conan that makes this obviously not true >_>
Additionally, not even a year has passed in the story's timeline.
So Conan is solving 2-3 murders cases per day.


yeah, I'm re watching the show and that's just crazy lol. You'd swear winter and spring happened over and over with how things progress. Plus when Conan says "You haven't had a case this month" is like ">_> how many months in a year is there?!" but yeah, a lot of those cases he ends up 'stumbling' on so is there like...chaos in Japan? What's TRULY going on?
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
05/21/18 1:34:31 AM
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The real reason is that the access to weapons is heavily regulated
They have no right to bear arms - the process to own a firearm is really really long and arduous, and even then you're restricted to low-caliber, hunting rifles (you know, the kind the looks like one anyway) or handguns

There's also a culture that says your behavior and actions weigh heavily upon your family name and all that but it matters less and less with each generation

That being said in my experience Koreans are just as prone to violence as anyone else, over the pettiest of matters. Knife attacks for parking spaces are a regular occurrence in Korea - you just don't hear about it in the States
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iron jojo
05/21/18 1:38:11 AM
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Trigg3rH4ppy posted...
They have a different culture with different social standards and are much more concerned with pride, honor, and self worth. To be a thief or a criminal is unbecoming.

This.
In America we have a whole culture glorifying criminal enterprise.
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Kastrada
05/21/18 1:54:14 AM
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There's a lot of domestic abuse in Korea, a lot of drunk driving, a lot of dangerous drivers, rape, sexual harassment, etc..

It's a saving face culture, so you can pay blood money to the victims of what you did to get out of things to make them go away or flat out bribe the police. Police tend not to get involved with domestic disturbances either.
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Smashingpmkns
05/21/18 2:00:16 AM
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Doesn't Japan have a lot of crime
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Ivynn
05/21/18 2:02:48 AM
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Zikten posted...
I can offer up a theory at least. I saw something similar to this once in an article I read about why Japan doesn't like games like Elder Scrolls and prefer linear games. basically, their society was always regulated and everyone had a role in society that they stuck to. in Japan, you just stick to your social class and role. and if you defy that, your causing problems. everyone just fits into holes fitted perfectly for them. and this would impact crime too. most normal Japanese don't want to stand out. so they wouldn't want to become a criminal. in America, our history and society is all about doing your own thing and striking out for adventure and discovery. people don't care as much about causing problems


Skyrim is one of the best-selling western games of all time in Japan actually.
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CarlGrimes
05/21/18 3:12:24 AM
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WalkingLobsters posted...
how come there is very little crime?

I doubt the Yakuza would agree. You just don't hear about them that much because they have honor and are not like the animals in gangs everywhere else.
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Dash_Harber
05/21/18 3:14:57 AM
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Cpt_Pineapple posted...
because everyone there is armed


In Japan? Where it's pretty much impossible to get firearms? To the point that organized crime still utilizes medieval weaponry? Totally ...

Anyway, they aren't crime-free. Japan actually has a pretty organized and influential criminal syndicate (the Yakuza) that operates in broad daylight with basically no one capable or willing to stop them.

Of course, it's impossible to get a gun and they don't worship school shooters, so people aren't eager to go shoot up schools like they do in the US.
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Dragonblade01
05/21/18 3:18:41 AM
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At least regarding Japan, it's a complicated issue, but the short version:

Japan is a markedly safe country.

But it's not as safe as you think it is.
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YOUHAVENOHOPE
05/21/18 3:18:45 AM
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Dash_Harber posted...
Of course, it's impossible to get a gun and they don't worship school shooters, so people aren't eager to go shoot up schools like they do in the US.

a) yakuza can get guns if they want
b) they don't worship school shooters but they get a slew of brutal knife attacks every year hmm
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Dash_Harber
05/21/18 3:20:37 AM
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
a) yakuza can get guns if they want


Yes, they can, but it's nowhere near as easy or common as crime organizations in America.

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...
b) they don't worship school shooters but they get a slew of brutal knife attacks every year hmm


But the US gets those too, plus shootings that frequently see casualties in the 20-30s. Are you saying that a knife attack is the same thing as a shooting?
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Rad_Chad
05/21/18 3:56:41 AM
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Hot chicks, duh.
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Distant_Rainbow
05/21/18 4:03:50 AM
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Because in Korea, rioters beat cops up and the cops don't have the guns to retaliate.
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XplodnPnguins92
05/21/18 4:04:46 AM
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those countries are tiny so they're easier to control.
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kayoticdreamz
05/21/18 4:08:34 AM
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theres no diversity thats why.

this means they all generally speaking tend to share the same ethical and cultural values. so the only time it becomes not safe is if a civil war or something like that breaks out, otherwise because everyone comes from the same belief system, you aren't likely to kill each other.

unlike america and europe which have diversity is our strength shoved down our throats.....kind of hard to buy when some of those diverse cultures just want to see europe and america burn.

even america which was founded by mostly white european folks, wasn't diverse at first and as such as pretty safe to live in, only breaking apart with the civil war and we're still dealing with that mess today since freeing the slaves, while noble, was handled horribly.
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Kastrada
05/21/18 4:14:38 AM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
this means they all generally speaking tend to share the same ethical and cultural values. so the only time it becomes not safe is if a civil war or something like that breaks out, otherwise because everyone comes from the same belief system, you aren't likely to kill each other.


You don't know much about Korean history obviously.
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Dash_Harber
05/21/18 4:26:10 AM
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kayoticdreamz posted...
theres no diversity thats why.

this means they all generally speaking tend to share the same ethical and cultural values. so the only time it becomes not safe is if a civil war or something like that breaks out, otherwise because everyone comes from the same belief system, you aren't likely to kill each other.

unlike america and europe which have diversity is our strength shoved down our throats.....kind of hard to buy when some of those diverse cultures just want to see europe and america burn.

even america which was founded by mostly white european folks, wasn't diverse at first and as such as pretty safe to live in, only breaking apart with the civil war and we're still dealing with that mess today since freeing the slaves, while noble, was handled horribly.


Except, you know, most of the shootings have had nothing to do with 'diversity'. Also, there are plenty of examples of countries that are diverse, such as Britain or Canada, where there is absolutely nowhere near the level of violence. How do you explain that?
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