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Bio1590 05/18/18 12:32:25 AM #1:	Committee https://ruppersberger.house.gov/newsroom/press-releases/ruppersberger-amendment-blocking-zte-bailout-passes-committee An amendment blocking President Trumps bailout of Chinese telecom company ZTE offered by Congressman C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-MD) and Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) unanimously passed the House Appropriations Committee today. The amendment will be included in the Fiscal Year 2019 Commerce, Justice and Science Appropriations Bill when it comes under consideration by the full House of Representatives next month. Congressman Ruppersberger has long suspected ZTE is used by the Chinese government to spy on Americans through the cell phone components they manufacture. He traveled to Hong Kong and interviewed ZTE executives before co-authoring a bipartisan report on the threat as then-Ranking Member of the House Intelligence Committee in 2012. ZTE was sanctioned in April after it was caught shipping American-made goods to Iran and North Korea. President Trump earlier this week, however, announced that he is directing the U.S. Commerce Department to help the company, citing Chinese job losses. This amendment, which passed with the unanimous support of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, shows that, when the United States enacts sanctions, we stand behind them, Congressman Ruppersberger said. It will also prevent a foreign company that is beholden to its government and that ignores embargoes from infiltrating the devices and networks that are now indispensable to American life. ... Specifically, the amendment prevents the U.S. Commerce Department from renegotiating sanctions on ZTE, preventing them from receiving support from the U.S. vendors on which they depend. Full Text: https://ruppersberger.house.gov/sites/ruppersberger.house.gov/files/documents/ZTE%20Amendment.pdf Be interesting to see how this one goes. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:901547072] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Committee https://ruppersberger.house.gov/newsroom/press-releases/ruppersberger-amendment-blocking-zte-bailout-passes-committee <quote>An amendment blocking President Trumps bailout of Chinese telecom company ZTE offered by Congressman C.A. Dutch Ruppersberger (D-MD) and Congresswoman Rosa DeLauro (D-CT) unanimously passed the House Appropriations Committee today. The amendment will be included in the Fiscal Year 2019 Commerce, Justice and Science Appropriations Bill when it comes under consideration by the full House of Representatives next month. Congressman Ruppersberger has long suspected ZTE is used by the Chinese government to spy on Americans through the cell phone components they manufacture. He traveled to Hong Kong and interviewed ZTE executives before co-authoring a bipartisan report on the threat as then-Ranking Member of the House Intelligence Committee in 2012. ZTE was sanctioned in April after it was caught shipping American-made goods to Iran and North Korea. President Trump earlier this week, however, announced that he is directing the U.S. Commerce Department to help the company, citing Chinese job losses. This amendment, which passed with the unanimous support of my colleagues on both sides of the aisle, shows that, when the United States enacts sanctions, we stand behind them, Congressman Ruppersberger said. It will also prevent a foreign company that is beholden to its government and that ignores embargoes from infiltrating the devices and networks that are now indispensable to American life. ... Specifically, the amendment prevents the U.S. Commerce Department from renegotiating sanctions on ZTE, preventing them from receiving support from the U.S. vendors on which they depend. Full Text: https://ruppersberger.house.gov/sites/ruppersberger.house.gov/files/documents/ZTE%20Amendment.pdf</quote> Be interesting to see how this one goes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 05/18/18 12:35:05 AM #2:	American First! --- Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and Fortnite PC: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:901547200] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>American First!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 05/18/18 1:47:15 PM #3:	Bump --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:901576229] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Bump</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 05/18/18 1:53:39 PM #4:	Did any non-Democrats vote for this or is it a partisan thing? --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:901576584] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Did any non-Democrats vote for this or is it a partisan thing?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mizznox 05/18/18 1:57:51 PM #5:	Damn_Underscore posted... Did any non-Democrats vote for this or is it a partisan thing? "unanimously passed the House Appropriations Committee" The HAC is majority Repuplican --- https://imgur.com/qUAL3fG <cite>Mizznox posted [p:901576834] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Did any non-Democrats vote for this or is it a partisan thing?</quote> "unanimously passed the House Appropriations Committee" The HAC is majority Repuplican</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/18/18 1:58:39 PM #7:	What's the context here? <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:901576882] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>What's the context here?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Damn_Underscore 05/18/18 1:59:38 PM #8:	Mizznox posted... Damn_Underscore posted... Did any non-Democrats vote for this or is it a partisan thing? "unanimously passed the House Appropriations Committee" The HAC is majority Repuplican ok cool --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:901576932] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Mizznox posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Did any non-Democrats vote for this or is it a partisan thing?</quote> "unanimously passed the House Appropriations Committee" The HAC is majority Repuplican</quote> ok cool</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/18/18 2:02:02 PM #9:	Good. We shouldn't be bailing out American companies, much less Chinese ones. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901577069] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Good. We shouldn't be bailing out American companies, much less Chinese ones.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_BIueMonk 05/18/18 2:02:13 PM #10:	lmao 100 bucks says that china takes their 500 million dollars back. --- DAHYUN = <3 https://imgur.com/eF0cTqK <cite>_BIueMonk posted [p:901577079] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>lmao 100 bucks says that china takes their 500 million dollars back.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Sonic 05/18/18 2:03:23 PM #11:	Dem campaign promises, tho --- The only game reviewers who can be trusted are those who publish in Latin or Swahili. <cite>Solid Sonic posted [p:901577127] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Dem campaign promises, tho</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 05/18/18 2:04:32 PM #12:	Questionmarktarius posted... What's the context here? https://www.lightwaveonline.com/articles/2018/04/u-s-commerce-dept-finds-zte-violated-export-disciplinary-agreement-bans-u-s-component-supply.html April 2018 The U.S. Department of Commerce announced today that it would ban U.S. companies from providing components to ZTE because the Chinese company failed to comply with the terms of a disciplinary agreement reached in March 2017 arising from U.S. export law violations. The ban, slated to last seven years, also prevents others from reselling U.S. components to ZTE. The action has a direct effect on optical component and subsystems vendors who had ZTE on their customer rosters. In March 2016, the Department of Commerce slapped export restrictions on U.S. technology to ZTE under suspicion that the Chinese communications systems house had sold equipment to Iran and North Korea containing U.S. technology between January 2010 and early 2016 (later amended to April 2016). Such U.S. technology was banned from export to the two countries at the time (see "ZTE faces export sanctions from US Department of Commerce"). The company agreed in March 2017 to plead guilty to a series of related charges as part of a disciplinary agreement that would lift the technology supply ban (see "ZTE admits guilt, settles export squabble"). The agreement included $1.19 billion in fines, with $300 billion suspended as an inducement to adhere to the agreement's terms during a seven-year probationary period. Those terms included the promise that ZTE would take disciplinary actions against employees identified as participating in the illegal activity. The agreement also contained provisions for a seven-year ban on U.S. technology transfer to ZTE that also would be suspended as long as ZTE adhered to the agreement. And then http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-zte-order-after-china-gave-millions-to-trump-organization-tied-project-2018-5 Within three days of the Chinese government agreeing to provide $500 million in loans to an Indonesian theme park that the Trump Organization has a deal to license President Donald Trump's name to, the president stunningly ordered sanctions be rescinded against a major Chinese telecom company. As AFP reported via the South China Morning Post last week, the developer of that project just outside of Jakarta had secured the half billion in funding, in addition to another $500 million from Chinese banks, 72 hours before Trump's Sunday tweet on the Chinese telecom company ZTE. Trump's family business has a deal with that developer to include the Trump name on the resort, which also includes hotels and a golf course. "President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast," Trump tweeted Sunday. "Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!" --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:901577188] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>What's the context here?</quote> https://www.lightwaveonline.com/articles/2018/04/u-s-commerce-dept-finds-zte-violated-export-disciplinary-agreement-bans-u-s-component-supply.html April 2018 The U.S. Department of Commerce announced today that it would ban U.S. companies from providing components to ZTE because the Chinese company failed to comply with the terms of a disciplinary agreement reached in March 2017 arising from U.S. export law violations. The ban, slated to last seven years, also prevents others from reselling U.S. components to ZTE. The action has a direct effect on optical component and subsystems vendors who had ZTE on their customer rosters. In March 2016, the Department of Commerce slapped export restrictions on U.S. technology to ZTE under suspicion that the Chinese communications systems house had sold equipment to Iran and North Korea containing U.S. technology between January 2010 and early 2016 (later amended to April 2016). Such U.S. technology was banned from export to the two countries at the time (see "ZTE faces export sanctions from US Department of Commerce"). The company agreed in March 2017 to plead guilty to a series of related charges as part of a disciplinary agreement that would lift the technology supply ban (see "ZTE admits guilt, settles export squabble"). The agreement included $1.19 billion in fines, with $300 billion suspended as an inducement to adhere to the agreement's terms during a seven-year probationary period. Those terms included the promise that ZTE would take disciplinary actions against employees identified as participating in the illegal activity. The agreement also contained provisions for a seven-year ban on U.S. technology transfer to ZTE that also would be suspended as long as ZTE adhered to the agreement. And then http://www.businessinsider.com/trump-zte-order-after-china-gave-millions-to-trump-organization-tied-project-2018-5 Within three days of the Chinese government agreeing to provide $500 million in loans to an Indonesian theme park that the Trump Organization has a deal to license President Donald Trump's name to, the president stunningly ordered sanctions be rescinded against a major Chinese telecom company. As AFP reported via the South China Morning Post last week, the developer of that project just outside of Jakarta had secured the half billion in funding, in addition to another $500 million from Chinese banks, 72 hours before Trump's Sunday tweet on the Chinese telecom company ZTE. Trump's family business has a deal with that developer to include the Trump name on the resort, which also includes hotels and a golf course. "President Xi of China, and I, are working together to give massive Chinese phone company, ZTE, a way to get back into business, fast," Trump tweeted Sunday. "Too many jobs in China lost. Commerce Department has been instructed to get it done!"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/18/18 2:06:11 PM #13:	I hope they block it, don't agree with the bailout at all. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:901577271] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>I hope they block it, don't agree with the bailout at all.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 05/18/18 2:06:43 PM #14:	Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit. --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:901577307] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
babyeatermax 05/18/18 2:09:01 PM #15:	All those excuses Trump supporters came up with gone to waste --- This guy <cite>babyeatermax posted [p:901577471] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>All those excuses Trump supporters came up with gone to waste</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Dagon_0 05/18/18 2:10:35 PM #16:	Lol he really conned the shit out of his supporters. America first my ass. <cite>Dagon_0 posted [p:901577566] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Lol he really conned the shit out of his supporters. America first my ass.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/18/18 2:10:54 PM #17:	Democrat or Republican, anyone who won't support Trump's agenda should be forcibly removed from office and replaced with someone who will. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:901577583] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Democrat or Republican, anyone who won't support Trump's agenda should be forcibly removed from office and replaced with someone who will.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Master_Bass 05/18/18 2:11:53 PM #18:	Good, that's what ZTE gets for ignoring sanctions. --- Many Bothans died to bring you this post. <cite>Master_Bass posted [p:901577625] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Good, that's what ZTE gets for ignoring sanctions.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/18/18 2:12:52 PM #19:	CableZL posted... [context] So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:901577689] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>[context]</quote> So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 05/18/18 2:14:24 PM #20:	Questionmarktarius posted... CableZL posted... [context] So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again. It's a pretty sure it's also a violation of the emoluments clause --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:901577773] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>[context]</quote> So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again.</quote> It's a pretty sure it's also a violation of the emoluments clause</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/18/18 2:14:25 PM #21:	Blue_Inigo posted... Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit. This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901577774] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit.</quote> This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 05/18/18 2:16:32 PM #22:	Putin sold ZTE a copy of the pee tape --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:901577927] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Putin sold ZTE a copy of the pee tape</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 05/18/18 2:17:06 PM #23:	darkjedilink posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit. This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw. Can you leave your partisian hackery out of this topic please --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:901577958] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit.</quote> This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw.</quote> Can you leave your partisian hackery out of this topic please</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/18/18 2:17:41 PM #24:	darkjedilink posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit. This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw. Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:901577990] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit.</quote> This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw.</quote> Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/18/18 2:17:50 PM #25:	CableZL posted... Questionmarktarius posted... CableZL posted... [context] So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again. It's a pretty sure it's also a violation of the emoluments clause That would require evidence of Trump directly profiting from the deal, as opposed to the everyday variety of political corruption. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:901577999] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote>[context]</quote> So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again.</quote> It's a pretty sure it's also a violation of the emoluments clause</quote> That would require evidence of Trump directly profiting from the deal, as opposed to the everyday variety of political corruption.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CableZL 05/18/18 2:18:56 PM #26:	Questionmarktarius posted... That would require evidence of Trump directly profiting from the deal, as opposed to the everyday variety of political corruption. I'm pretty sure the $500 million loan from China to help with a Trump licensed golf course and resort would be that evidence. --- https://imgur.com/ByKGlJb https://imgur.com/nZdaA8D https://imgur.com/VBLBILg <cite>CableZL posted [p:901578072] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>That would require evidence of Trump directly profiting from the deal, as opposed to the everyday variety of political corruption. </quote> I'm pretty sure the $500 million loan from China to help with a Trump licensed golf course and resort would be that evidence.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 05/18/18 2:19:04 PM #27:	The Admiral posted... darkjedilink posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit. This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw. Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried. What does someone who praises racial and ethnic profiling know of intelligence? --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:901578081] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit.</quote> This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw.</quote> Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried.</quote> What does someone who praises racial and ethnic profiling know of intelligence?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 05/18/18 2:20:33 PM #28:	Has trump had a meltdown about this yet? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:901578156] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Has trump had a meltdown about this yet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 05/18/18 2:22:00 PM #29:	DifferentialEquation posted... wwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!! --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:901578231] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote>wwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh!!</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
halomonkey1_3_5 05/18/18 2:22:12 PM #30:	ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Has trump had a meltdown about this yet? gotta wait til he sees it on Hannity tonight or Fox and Friends tomorrow morning --- Billy Mays: July 20, 1958 - June 28, 2009 The Greatest <cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted [p:901578246] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>Has trump had a meltdown about this yet?</quote> gotta wait til he sees it on Hannity tonight or Fox and Friends tomorrow morning</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Admiral 05/18/18 2:25:56 PM #31:	Blue_Inigo posted... The Admiral posted... darkjedilink posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit. This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw. Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried. What does someone who praises racial and ethnic profiling know of intelligence? Your grade-school insults and tantrums are only making the point for me. --- - The Admiral <cite>The Admiral posted [p:901578459] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit.</quote> This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw.</quote> Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried.</quote> What does someone who praises racial and ethnic profiling know of intelligence?</quote> Your grade-school insults and tantrums are only making the point for me.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/18/18 2:27:50 PM #32:	CableZL posted... Questionmarktarius posted... That would require evidence of Trump directly profiting from the deal, as opposed to the everyday variety of political corruption. I'm pretty sure the $500 million loan from China to help with a Trump licensed golf course and resort would be that evidence. ohshit <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:901578570] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote>That would require evidence of Trump directly profiting from the deal, as opposed to the everyday variety of political corruption. </quote> I'm pretty sure the $500 million loan from China to help with a Trump licensed golf course and resort would be that evidence.</quote> ohshit</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Blue_Inigo 05/18/18 2:28:26 PM #33:	The Admiral posted... Blue_Inigo posted... The Admiral posted... darkjedilink posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit. This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw. Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried. What does someone who praises racial and ethnic profiling know of intelligence? Your grade-school insults and tantrums are only making the point for me. Sure pal Which one of us keeps getting put in the timeout corner for racism and bigotry? Sure isn't me. Keep your tantrums in check --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:901578602] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit.</quote> This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw.</quote> Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried.</quote> What does someone who praises racial and ethnic profiling know of intelligence?</quote> Your grade-school insults and tantrums are only making the point for me.</quote> Sure pal Which one of us keeps getting put in the timeout corner for racism and bigotry? Sure isn't me. Keep your tantrums in check</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 05/18/18 2:29:31 PM #34:	halomonkey1_3_5 posted... ImTheMacheteGuy posted... Has trump had a meltdown about this yet? gotta wait til he sees it on Hannity tonight or Fox and Friends tomorrow morning geronimo --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:901578668] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>halomonkey1_3_5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted...</cite> <quote>Has trump had a meltdown about this yet?</quote> gotta wait til he sees it on Hannity tonight or Fox and Friends tomorrow morning</quote> geronimo</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
eston 05/18/18 2:31:50 PM #35:	I can't wait for the tweets --- http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i215/estonc/grizzly_bear_chairs_2.jpg https://imgur.com/8kjZU <cite>eston posted [p:901578807] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>I can't wait for the tweets</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
darkjedilink 05/18/18 2:36:55 PM #36:	Blue_Inigo posted... The Admiral posted... Blue_Inigo posted... The Admiral posted... darkjedilink posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit. This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw. Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried. What does someone who praises racial and ethnic profiling know of intelligence? Your grade-school insults and tantrums are only making the point for me. Sure pal Which one of us keeps getting put in the timeout corner for racism and bigotry? Sure isn't me. Keep your tantrums in check lol, the dude who can't stop melting down over North Korea's peace summit talking about tantrums --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen <cite>darkjedilink posted [p:901579113] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit.</quote> This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw.</quote> Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried.</quote> What does someone who praises racial and ethnic profiling know of intelligence?</quote> Your grade-school insults and tantrums are only making the point for me.</quote> Sure pal Which one of us keeps getting put in the timeout corner for racism and bigotry? Sure isn't me. Keep your tantrums in check</quote> lol, the dude who can't stop melting down over North Korea's peace summit talking about tantrums</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Blue_Inigo 05/18/18 2:42:25 PM #38:	darkjedilink posted... Blue_Inigo posted... The Admiral posted... Blue_Inigo posted... The Admiral posted... darkjedilink posted... Blue_Inigo posted... Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit. This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw. Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried. What does someone who praises racial and ethnic profiling know of intelligence? Your grade-school insults and tantrums are only making the point for me. Sure pal Which one of us keeps getting put in the timeout corner for racism and bigotry? Sure isn't me. Keep your tantrums in check lol, the dude who can't stop melting down over North Korea's peace summit talking about tantrums First you call me a Clinton supporter, and now you make claims about me making crazy posts in topics concerning NK. Neither of these things are even close to being true. If you're gonna shoot your shots, try not using blanks. These are shoddy attempts --- "This is your last dance." <cite>Blue_Inigo posted [p:901579470] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>Trump is such a blatantly corrupt piece of shit.</quote> This is coming from a Clinton supporter, btw.</quote> Trump is in the wrong here, but what you quoted is about as intelligent an argument as Blue_Inigo can make. I'm pretty certain he couldn't explain what this issue actually is if he tried.</quote> What does someone who praises racial and ethnic profiling know of intelligence?</quote> Your grade-school insults and tantrums are only making the point for me.</quote> Sure pal Which one of us keeps getting put in the timeout corner for racism and bigotry? Sure isn't me. Keep your tantrums in check</quote> lol, the dude who can't stop melting down over North Korea's peace summit talking about tantrums</quote> First you call me a Clinton supporter, and now you make claims about me making crazy posts in topics concerning NK. Neither of these things are even close to being true. If you're gonna shoot your shots, try not using blanks. These are shoddy attempts</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Antifar 05/18/18 2:43:49 PM #39:	I feel like this topic could have gone better --- kin to all that throbs <cite>Antifar posted [p:901579564] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>I feel like this topic could have gone better</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/18/18 2:46:06 PM #40:	Blue_Inigo posted... First you call me a Clinton supporter, and now you make claims about me making crazy posts in topics concerning NK. Neither of these things are even close to being true. Because as much as they cry about non-sequitur's and personal insults being hurled towards them, they are the first to embrace that method of attack. --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901579726] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Blue_Inigo posted...</cite> <quote>First you call me a Clinton supporter, and now you make claims about me making crazy posts in topics concerning NK. Neither of these things are even close to being true. </quote> Because as much as they cry about non-sequitur's and personal insults being hurled towards them, they are the first to embrace that method of attack.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Bio1590 05/18/18 2:46:10 PM #41:	Antifar posted... I feel like this topic could have gone better It started out great, then jdl had to go and jdl and it never recovered. --- https://imgur.com/bbRWLI8 https://imgur.com/A0BErSV <cite>Bio1590 posted [p:901579730] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Antifar posted...</cite> <quote>I feel like this topic could have gone better</quote> It started out great, then jdl had to go and jdl and it never recovered.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 05/18/18 2:49:57 PM #42:	Wh does everyone have to have such huge egos --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:901579947] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>Wh does everyone have to have such huge egos</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Thompson 05/18/18 2:52:30 PM #43:	scar the 1 posted... Wh does everyone have to have such huge egos Insecurity superiority complex, perhaps? --- Sigs are rather pointless, except if it's to showcase animation and images. <cite>Thompson posted [p:901580108] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>scar the 1 posted...</cite> <quote>Wh does everyone have to have such huge egos</quote> Insecurity superiority complex, perhaps?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnholyMudcrab 05/18/18 2:52:58 PM #44:	CableZL posted... Questionmarktarius posted... CableZL posted... [context] So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again. It's a pretty sure it's also a violation of the emoluments clause Trump has been violating the emoluments clause since the day he took office. I'm far past the point of expecting anyone to actually do something about it --- https://imgur.com/VeNBg https://imgur.com/gd5jC8q https://imgur.com/PKIy7 https://imgur.com/3p29JqP <cite>UnholyMudcrab posted [p:901580131] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote> [context] </quote> So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again.</quote> It's a pretty sure it's also a violation of the emoluments clause</quote> Trump has been violating the emoluments clause since the day he took office. I'm far past the point of expecting anyone to actually do something about it</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 05/18/18 2:54:26 PM #45:	UnholyMudcrab posted... CableZL posted... Questionmarktarius posted... CableZL posted... [context] So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again. It's a pretty sure it's also a violation of the emoluments clause Trump has been violating the emoluments clause since the day he took office. I'm far past the point of expecting anyone to actually do something about it Why even have it? --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:901580207] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote> [context] </quote> So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again.</quote> It's a pretty sure it's also a violation of the emoluments clause</quote> Trump has been violating the emoluments clause since the day he took office. I'm far past the point of expecting anyone to actually do something about it</quote> Why even have it?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ultimate reaver 05/18/18 2:54:40 PM #46:	gyna --- butts <cite>ultimate reaver posted [p:901580223] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote>gyna</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
iamintents 05/18/18 2:55:52 PM #47:	darkjedilink posted... Good. We shouldn't be bailing out American companies, much less Chinese ones. --- https://imgur.com/rCECrB9 <cite>iamintents posted [p:901580292] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>darkjedilink posted...</cite> <quote>Good. We shouldn't be bailing out American companies, much less Chinese ones.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Questionmarktarius 05/18/18 2:56:30 PM #48:	ledbowman posted... UnholyMudcrab posted... CableZL posted... Questionmarktarius posted... CableZL posted... [context] So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again. It's a pretty sure it's also a violation of the emoluments clause Trump has been violating the emoluments clause since the day he took office. I'm far past the point of expecting anyone to actually do something about it Why even have it? The idea is to keep the president from having any loyalty to a foreign nation. <cite>Questionmarktarius posted [p:901580325] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnholyMudcrab posted...</cite> <quote><cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Questionmarktarius posted...</cite> <quote> <cite>CableZL posted...</cite> <quote> [context] </quote> So, basically, just another way to undo Obama's legacy? All in all, this isn't a terrible idea (apart from, you know, being a bailout), so long as there's a "don't do it again!" provision, with severe penalties for doing it again.</quote> It's a pretty sure it's also a violation of the emoluments clause</quote> Trump has been violating the emoluments clause since the day he took office. I'm far past the point of expecting anyone to actually do something about it</quote> Why even have it?</quote> The idea is to keep the president from having any loyalty to a foreign nation.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
creativerealms 05/18/18 2:57:35 PM #49:	Damn_Underscore posted... Did any non-Democrats vote for this or is it a partisan thing? You realize all branches are currently controlled by the republicans? --- No sig. <cite>creativerealms posted [p:901580378] in Amendment ... [t:76619316]...</cite> <quote><cite>Damn_Underscore posted...</cite> <quote>Did any non-Democrats vote for this or is it a partisan thing?</quote> You realize all branches are currently controlled by the republicans?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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