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A_Good_Boy 05/15/18 7:34:14 PM #51: |
FrenchCrunch posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...Then they should have drawn him white instead of requiring their 12 year old fan base to search out obscure trivia a decade after the show ended. People only argue he's white because they're familiar with him from the comics and the movies, so they watch the cartoon and immediately have some questions regarding his race. There's a reason why people who get introduced to the character via the cartoon first are the ones that get shocked once they find out that the character is traditionally a white man. Because the animators drew him as a black man. We wouldn't be having this conversation so long after the show came out, and this question wouldn't be so popular, if they had not drew him as a black man. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 05/15/18 7:35:11 PM #52: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
People only argue he's white because they're familiar with him from the comics and the movies i dont agree with this. i think it is because he is portrayed as white in the series. my introduction to luthor was stas ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 05/15/18 7:35:50 PM #53: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
People only argue he's white because they're familiar with him from the comics and the movies, so they watch the cartoon and immediately have some questions regarding his race. There's a reason why people who get introduced to the character via the cartoon first are the ones that get shocked once they find out that the character is traditionally a white man. Because the animators drew him as a black man. We wouldn't be having this conversation so long after the show came out, and this question wouldn't be so popular, if they had not drew him as a black man. i think the only reason this is a conversation is because some people distort reality when it does not mesh with their preconceived notions ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 05/15/18 7:37:48 PM #54: |
FrenchCrunch posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...People only argue he's white because they're familiar with him from the comics and the movies I disagree with you, and I think it's because he is portrayed as black in the series. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Cal12 05/15/18 7:39:10 PM #55: |
Isnt he virtually identical to the white cartoon Lex Luthor anyways?
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ForestLogic 05/15/18 7:40:31 PM #56: |
FWIW i was introduced to most of DC through the animated universe, and Lex feels black to me.
Note, I did grow up watching trash like Superfriends as well, but I identify more with TASS and both Justice Leagues. --- AKA Level 36 ForestWanderer / ObjectiveLogic #MasterChiefForSmash ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 05/15/18 7:40:36 PM #57: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
I disagree with you, and I think it's because he is portrayed as black in the series. you are free to think that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 05/15/18 7:41:47 PM #58: |
FrenchCrunch posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...People only argue he's white because they're familiar with him from the comics and the movies, so they watch the cartoon and immediately have some questions regarding his race. There's a reason why people who get introduced to the character via the cartoon first are the ones that get shocked once they find out that the character is traditionally a white man. Because the animators drew him as a black man. We wouldn't be having this conversation so long after the show came out, and this question wouldn't be so popular, if they had not drew him as a black man. The only distorting of reality is requiring people to have a knowledge of obscure trivia to explain away the fact that Lex is portrayed as darker than every other white person in the show, and then pretending as if light skin black people are mythical when attempting to explain away the distinction when placed next to darker skinned black characters. It's especially weird when the best explanation for him not being black is because he's meant to be greek, ignoring the fact that he's still considerably darker than Wonder Woman and the rest of the amazons despite them actually being canonically greek in the show. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 05/15/18 7:47:08 PM #59: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
The only distorting of reality is requiring people to have a knowledge of obscure trivia why do you insist upon this it's literally un-provable how does it make more sense to jump to all these conclusions instead of just acknowledging that he was designed as a tan white guy we literally have the same skin tone and im pretty sure i am Mediterranean and not black ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 05/15/18 7:47:45 PM #60: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
It's especially weird when the best explanation for him not being black is because he's meant to be greek, ignoring the fact that he's still considerably darker than Wonder Woman and the rest of the amazons despite them actually being canonically greek in the show. by the time wonder woman is introduced, they made luthor's skin much lighter. they did it to all the characters iirc ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chill02 05/15/18 7:49:33 PM #61: |
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A_Good_Boy 05/15/18 7:49:58 PM #62: |
FrenchCrunch posted...
A_Good_Boy posted...It's especially weird when the best explanation for him not being black is because he's meant to be greek, ignoring the fact that he's still considerably darker than Wonder Woman and the rest of the amazons despite them actually being canonically greek in the show. Nope. Her and all of her sisters are light and he's still dark. Face it, the article is crap and Lex is black. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 05/15/18 7:52:32 PM #63: |
FrenchCrunch posted...
how does it make more sense to jump to all these conclusions instead of just acknowledging that he was designed as a tan white guy Because the show has white dudes with tans, Lex is still blacker than all of them. It even has Oliver Queen living alone on an island and he's still white as a sheet, so let's not even pretend that Lex is merely tan despite him being shown mostly indoors. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 05/15/18 11:38:36 PM #64: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
Nope. Her and all of her sisters are light and he's still dark. no he's p white in justice league. he's always white but i mean strictly skin tone A_Good_Boy posted... Lex is still blacker than all of them same skin tone as superman though ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Skye Reynolds 05/15/18 11:41:16 PM #65: |
Loghain posted...
He's white in every other form of media he appeared in Actually, you could make the argument that Lex Luthor is Native American in the 1940s cartoon series. The short Electric Earthquake was based off of a comic featuring Lex Luthor and the unnamed antagonist has Luthor's attire and mannerisms. He's certainly that series's version of Lex Luthor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SSJGrimReaper 05/15/18 11:42:35 PM #66: |
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chill02 05/15/18 11:43:07 PM #67: |
SSJGrimReaper posted...
Lex Luthor is black --- Ave, true to Caesar. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Zikten 05/15/18 11:49:42 PM #68: |
chill02 posted...
SSJGrimReaper posted...Lex Luthor is black factually wrong because even if I admit he's black in the cartoon, he's white in every other incarnation that ever existed. he is a white man who may or may not be black in one single cartoon series ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chill02 05/15/18 11:54:10 PM #69: |
Zikten posted...
chill02 posted...SSJGrimReaper posted...Lex Luthor is black https://i.pinimg.com/originals/b8/1b/b1/b81bb17136c040536a692f92706b88df.jpg --- Ave, true to Caesar. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FrenchCrunch 05/15/18 11:54:39 PM #70: |
Zikten posted...
chill02 posted...SSJGrimReaper posted...Lex Luthor is black there is no may or may not he just isnt ... Copied to Clipboard!
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creativerealms 05/16/18 1:00:49 AM #71: |
As Lex Luthor said in Superman Returns. WRONG.
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boxington 05/16/18 1:30:52 AM #72: |
chill02 posted...
Zikten posted...chill02 posted...SSJGrimReaper posted...Lex Luthor is black would have liked to see Billy Dee as Two Face --- b-bb-box ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 05/16/18 7:20:28 AM #73: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
People will argue to the death that anime characters are obviously white because they're drawn as white people http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/Mukokuseki --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pegusus123456 05/16/18 7:24:10 AM #74: |
He's white.
He and Superman are the same shade and they're both pale and unquestionably white in JL/JLU which alters the art style slightly. --- https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT https://imgur.com/Er6TT So? I deeded to some gay porn. It doesn't mean anything. - Patty_Fleur ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Reis 05/16/18 7:40:13 AM #75: |
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SSJGrimReaper 05/16/18 8:06:16 AM #76: |
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Balrog0 05/16/18 9:33:22 AM #77: |
https://imgur.com/tMUNdgY
https://imgur.com/a9m4ZR0 idk lex luthor seems to be clearly darker than superman in most of the pictures I see in google image search, though superman is darker than I remember him being tbf not that that is definitive or anything --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 05/16/18 9:35:02 AM #78: |
Somebody make this into a poll
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VTBM 05/16/18 9:37:11 AM #79: |
No, he's Latino.
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Gheb 05/16/18 10:04:53 AM #80: |
Balrog0 posted...
https://imgur.com/tMUNdgY With that you are comparing STAS Lex and Justice League Superman. The coloring and character designs for everyone got tweeked in Justice League. Justice League Lex is also basically the same skin tone as Superman. --- S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ivynn 05/16/18 10:08:46 AM #81: |
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Balrog0 05/16/18 10:09:28 AM #82: |
https://imgur.com/eHMbhxy
which is this from? that is still lighter than lex luthor in most of the pics --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Laserion 05/16/18 10:10:43 AM #83: |
CyricZ posted...
Oddly enough, the blog I got the pic from: So, Lex Luthor is Kojak? --- There is no "would of", "should of" or "could of". There is "would've", "should've" and "could've". ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EnragedSlith 05/16/18 10:12:47 AM #84: |
I always thought he was mixed. I guess Grecian makes sense.
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Ivynn 05/16/18 10:16:05 AM #85: |
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Zodd3224 05/16/18 10:18:56 AM #86: |
The left is eating itself again...
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EnragedSlith 05/16/18 10:20:55 AM #87: |
Wait, are we even sure hes male? Does he ever state this?
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A_Good_Boy 05/16/18 10:28:25 AM #88: |
EnragedSlith posted...
I always thought he was mixed. I guess Grecian makes sense. Nope, cause the actual Greeks aren't anywhere near dark as he is. They're the lightest ones in the show. --- Posted with GameRaven 3.4 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gheb 05/16/18 10:46:02 AM #89: |
Balrog0 posted...
https://imgur.com/eHMbhxy That's STAS. But if you had him in the same scene with the same lighting, he'd be the same as Lex. https://geekonthethreshold.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/smtas.jpg --- S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Returning_CEmen 05/16/18 10:51:34 AM #90: |
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Balrog0 05/16/18 10:59:21 AM #91: |
my main take away from watching several clips of both of them on the animated series is that the show is very inconsistent in skin tone tbh
there are plenty of shots where they are together and are literally the same color but then there are plenty where they arent too in general if one of them is darker it is lex luthor, but even that is not always true --- It's one more thing we do to the poor, the deprived: cut out their tongues . . . allow them a language as lousy as their lives ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chill02 05/16/18 11:22:14 AM #92: |
chill02 posted...
SSJGrimReaper posted...Lex Luthor is black --- Ave, true to Caesar. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ManBeast462 05/16/18 11:22:53 AM #93: |
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Bloodychess 05/16/18 11:24:02 AM #94: |
SmidgeIsntBack posted...
TAS Superman is also black then. Which is also totally cool. Coolest part of the show tbqh --- To err is human To arr is pirate ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Gheb 05/16/18 11:39:01 AM #95: |
One other thing to note is that it's not just Clark and Lex. The vast majority of men in the show have a similar darker colored skin. Only red-headed Jimmy Olsen is consistently shown with lighter colored skin and even then, not by much. Women typically have a lighter skin tone than the men though.
Now, if you want to interpret that most of the characters in STAS are black, then by all means do so. However, given the race of the characters in the source material I'm guessing that wasn't the intention of the Dini/Timm while making the show. --- S*** I have to stop doing that," Gheb said, as he lay back down and died again. - Forgotten Love Chiefs are going to win the Super Bowl ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RchHomieQuanChi 05/16/18 11:41:13 AM #96: |
It's not just the skin tone. It's the facial features tbh
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boxington 05/16/18 12:03:26 PM #97: |
yea, Lex has similar lips and a similar looking nose to the black characters
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SSJGrimReaper 05/16/18 2:23:24 PM #98: |
chill02 posted...
chill02 posted...SSJGrimReaper posted...Lex Luthor is black --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Loghain 05/16/18 2:41:07 PM #99: |
SSJGrimReaper posted...
chill02 posted...chill02 posted...SSJGrimReaper posted...Lex Luthor is black --- You must gather your party before venturing forth ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CookieMarvin 05/16/18 2:52:38 PM #100: |
Loghain posted...
SSJGrimReaper posted...chill02 posted...chill02 posted...SSJGrimReaper posted...Lex Luthor is black --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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