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Damn_Underscore
05/13/18 4:35:06 PM
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https://www.marketwatch.com/story/i-paid-off-my-wifes-student-loans-then-she-filed-for-divorce-after-two-years-of-marriage-2018-04-21

Dear Moneyist,

Before I married my wife two years ago, she had huge amounts of debt to her name, including large amounts of student loans. After we married, we diligently almost paid everything off, helped by my salary being three times that of my wife.

She recently asked for a divorce, saying she was taking the house and my retirement. My question is: Does the fact we paid off her debts she held before get spread evenly? Had I not paid all of her debts our net worth would be near the same with a better outcome for me.

Weve only been married a few years, and frankly I cant help feeling taken advantage of. The only advice I can find discusses whose responsibility the student loans would be, but now it just seems that she got me to pay all of her debts, and got some new stuff, while I threw away years of my life.

Please tell me theres hope.

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Zero_Destroyer
05/13/18 4:36:36 PM
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more_cow_bell
05/13/18 4:37:56 PM
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Damn_Underscore posted...
and frankly I cant help feeling taken advantage of.

no shit
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Skye Reynolds
05/13/18 4:38:09 PM
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Gotta give the guy credit, he's so far resisted the urge to throw her off a bridge.

<_<
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LockeMonster
05/13/18 4:39:47 PM
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Fucked up.

After basically losing $300, which is not a lot, I admit, on a shitty friend, I'm never gonna help anybody in terms of money. Even my own wife. Women are 100% capable these days. She'll figure it out.
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CharlesBronson
05/13/18 4:40:33 PM
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She now out there looking for a new gig. So lookout. You may be here number two victim. They start looking when the CC is max out.
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ToothpicksfDOOM
05/13/18 4:41:32 PM
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Its not her fault . I blame the PATRIARCHY
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JE19426
05/13/18 4:41:59 PM
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Why's he asking for advice from Moneyist, instead of from his lawyer?
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BloodyNate
05/13/18 4:43:14 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
I feel like prenuptial agreements should be promoted as seriously as prophylactics


Entering a marriage with a prenup is akin to planning to divorce

Just be careful about who you marry, or never get married, tbqh
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littlebro07
05/13/18 4:43:22 PM
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Dark_SilverX
05/13/18 4:43:52 PM
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the women nowadays are predators. be very aware
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BloodyNate
05/13/18 4:44:43 PM
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ToothpicksfDOOM posted...
Its not her fault . I blame the PATRIARCHY

Dark_SilverX posted...
the women nowadays are predators. be very aware


Fuck toxic thoughts like these goddamn
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JE19426
05/13/18 4:46:57 PM
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BloodyNate posted...
Entering a marriage with a prenup is akin to planning to divorce


People should plan as many eventualities as possible. This include divorce.
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thecoolgu
05/13/18 4:47:05 PM
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BloodyNate posted...
ToothpicksfDOOM posted...
Its not her fault . I blame the PATRIARCHY

Dark_SilverX posted...
the women nowadays are predators. be very aware


Fuck toxic thoughts like these goddamn

The second one isn't wrong.
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Raikuro
05/13/18 4:50:02 PM
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JE19426 posted...
BloodyNate posted...
Entering a marriage with a prenup is akin to planning to divorce


People should plan as many eventualities as possible. This include divorce.

Standard prenups should be the default of all marriages. Someone asking to forgo a prenup is a much bigger red flag for divorce than wanting one.
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pikachupwnage
05/13/18 4:51:05 PM
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Fuck That bitch.

She should get literally nothing in the divorce.
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ModLogic
05/13/18 4:51:59 PM
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Skye Reynolds posted...
Gotta give the guy credit, he's so far resisted the urge to throw her off a bridge.

<_<

probably his best option at this point
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IloveJesus
05/13/18 4:54:13 PM
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BloodyNate posted...
never get married, tbqh

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ToothpicksfDOOM
05/13/18 4:54:29 PM
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Raikuro posted...
JE19426 posted...
BloodyNate posted...
Entering a marriage with a prenup is akin to planning to divorce


People should plan as many eventualities as possible. This include divorce.

Standard prenups should be the default of all marriages. Someone asking to forgo a prenup is a much bigger red flag for divorce than wanting one.

All great until the judge throws out the prenup anyway
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Solid Snake07
05/13/18 5:13:47 PM
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the only correct answer is to get a lawyer. And a good one.

Feel for the guy. If I were him I would absolutely go to the mattresses with this bitch. I'd spend every dime I had to screw her before I gave her another penny
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BloodyNate
05/13/18 5:15:39 PM
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thecoolgu posted...
BloodyNate posted...
ToothpicksfDOOM posted...
Its not her fault . I blame the PATRIARCHY

Dark_SilverX posted...
the women nowadays are predators. be very aware


Fuck toxic thoughts like these goddamn

The second one isn't wrong.


lol

16-BITTER posted...
I'm guessing you don't believe in insurance either.


wtf does one have to do with the other?
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BloodyNate
05/13/18 5:21:01 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
BloodyNate posted...
wtf does one have to do with the other?

A prenup is basically marriage insurance, in case you're the victim of an outdated law that says that your assets are shared regardless of who brought what into the equation.


But its far from the same. One is based entirely on your relationship to a person, the other is based on a million other factors. A prenup increases your risk for divorce by acknowledging second thoughts and creating some resentment.

But whatever, I literally dont care enough to talk about this shit anymore
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Offworlder1
05/13/18 5:24:52 PM
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He fucked up twice:

1. Never ever marry a woman with huge amounts of debt

2. Never marry without a prenup, having insurance is the only way a man can protect his wealth and rss

Never combine bank accounts either as a woman can easily steal money and leave you high and dry before you even catch on.
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SpiralDrift
05/13/18 5:27:05 PM
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Wow, what a dumbass.
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CharlesBronson
05/13/18 5:28:34 PM
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FFS Dude! Despite ALL the evidence in front of you......Divorce rates, anti-male family courts and laws....you still went ahead and NOT only got MARRIED but you also paid off her debts! She played YOU like a simp....and YOU allowed yourself to be played like a simp.... It is YOUR FAULT! At least you did not have a kid with her...so things could be a LOT worse (like 20 years of child support payments). Let's hope you learned a very important lesson:

NEVER get married/cohabitate (unless she is financially better off than you)....There is NO reason for it! Why buy the Cow? Free milk is everywhere!!!

PS: If she suddenly (before the divorce is final and the following nine months) tells you that she is pregnant...MAKE SURE YOU GET A PATERNITY DNA TEST....and DON'T SIGN THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.
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smoliske
05/13/18 5:28:36 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
2. Never marry without a prenup, having insurance is the only way a man can protect his wealth and rss


90% chance the judge will throw out the prenup
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glitteringfairy
05/13/18 5:30:05 PM
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If it were proven true this was the woman's intentions then I would say her murder would be completely justifiable and if I were on a jury I wouldn't convict him.
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ssj-kenobi
05/13/18 5:30:15 PM
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That's fucked up

I know my cousins now husband paid off all of her debts before they even got married and I don't know. she had some questionable conversations with my sister about 'who should she date'

but anyways they have been married and been together for quite some time, have a child together and stuff so meh. she also gained a bunch of weight once they got married and especially after they had a kid together.

but yeah I get the vibe she basically settled for him cos he was a good beta provider. whenever I see them together to get the vibe she fake loves him or something. it's like they lack this certain chemistry that couples normally have
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RE_expert44
05/13/18 5:31:25 PM
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All he has to do it say no to a divorce and fight her all the way. I've been to several dozen divorce proceedings and every time one party doesn't show up, they reschedule the court date and her lawyer gets paid more.
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ssj-kenobi
05/13/18 5:32:10 PM
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CharlesBronson posted...
FFS Dude! Despite ALL the evidence in front of you......Divorce rates, anti-male family courts and laws....you still went ahead and NOT only got MARRIED but you also paid off her debts! She played YOU like a simp....and YOU allowed yourself to be played like a simp.... It is YOUR FAULT! At least you did not have a kid with her...so things could be a LOT worse (like 20 years of child support payments). Let's hope you learned a very important lesson:

NEVER get married/cohabitate (unless she is financially better off than you)....There is NO reason for it! Why buy the Cow? Free milk is everywhere!!!

PS: If she suddenly (before the divorce is final and the following nine months) tells you that she is pregnant...MAKE SURE YOU GET A PATERNITY DNA TEST....and DON'T SIGN THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE.


I don't know man, with all the incels going around I feel any of these schmucks will settle for anything that falls their way

I know it gets mocked here but is the whole 20/80 idea all that insane?
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Offworlder1
05/13/18 5:33:30 PM
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@smoliske

Thats why you get a high power lawyer and never combine bank accounts with a woman. A man needs to protect himself and divorce screws over so many men that do not deserve it and create women haters.

Men need to be smart before marrying or they will be getting a hard fucking in the ass should divorce happen.
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DavidWong
05/13/18 5:33:34 PM
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If anything, my fiance should be asking for a prenup. She already earns more than me, and has two degrees while I'm still finishing my first one.

My fiance will be the breadwinner between the two of us.
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LinksLiege
05/13/18 5:33:52 PM
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16-BITTER posted...
I feel like prenuptial agreements should be promoted as seriously as prophylactics

Yeah.

I'm not a fan of the idea of marriage in general but, were I to go ahead with it, that would absolutely be a requirement - no exceptions. If they don't like it then, bye.
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Bloodychess
05/13/18 5:34:45 PM
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DavidWong posted...
If anything, my fiance should be asking for a prenup. She already earns more than me, and has two degrees while I'm still finishing my first one.

My fiance will be the breadwinner between the two of us.

50/50 doesnt work that way
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Pepys Monster
05/13/18 5:35:03 PM
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MGTOWs go looking for articles like this just so they can say "See? Women are evil! So glad I went my own way."
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ssj-kenobi
05/13/18 5:36:42 PM
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DavidWong posted...
If anything, my fiance should be asking for a prenup. She already earns more than me, and has two degrees while I'm still finishing my first one.

My fiance will be the breadwinner between the two of us.


because of this I hope her family and friends don't talk about you behind your back about how you are a deadbeat and that she can do better just because she earns more than you
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ledbowman
05/13/18 5:38:13 PM
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Comfy_Pillow
05/13/18 5:38:30 PM
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As soon as your wife files for divorce just take all your money out of the bank and burn it.

Either way you'll be broke but at least she don't get it
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Sad_Face
05/13/18 5:40:45 PM
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I refuse to get a prenup if I ever get married but if that happened to me, she'd make a murderer out of me. Reading the comments in the article, I'm so thankful I'm not in that position because someone made a really good point.

Rene posted...
Regarding the man who paid his wife's student loans: this might not be transferable, but maybe the principle of it is. My sister married a guy who was accepted to medical school. My father paid for the cost of medical school and kept all the receipts. Upon their divorce (New York), my sister was able to establish a "financial investment" into his medical career. Thus the judge gave my sister a 15% lifetime interest of the proceeds of the medical practice. Could it not be stated that by paying the student loan, the guy "invested" into his wife career, thus, he is entitled in a percentage of the proceeds of such career?

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_MorningStar
05/13/18 5:40:57 PM
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I like how she told him she was getting the house AND HIS retirement. Fuck that worthless ****.

Wow, we can't use that Word? Wtf
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EverDownward
05/13/18 5:42:56 PM
#46:


Damn_Underscore posted...
She recently asked for a divorce, saying she was taking the house and my retirement

Some people don't deserve the life they have
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Offworlder1
05/13/18 5:46:24 PM
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@Sad_Face

Your only asking to get fucked over then, you need to protect yourself and a prenup is a way to do that.

I love my girlfriends but both of them already know a prenup will happen and they already agreed to it. They make good money too though so they are not dependant on my money, if either said no then I would know they are not trust worthy.
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Sad_Face
05/13/18 5:50:28 PM
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Offworlder1 posted...
Your only asking to get f***ed over then, you need to protect yourself and a prenup is a way to do that.


But where's the trust in that?
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Damn_Underscore
05/13/18 5:50:47 PM
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I also wouldn't get a prenup. The better solution is to not get married. It's not necessary anymore.

Many people here don't want to get married, but your opinio might change if you meet someone who you want to get married to.
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Offworlder1
05/13/18 5:56:39 PM
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@Sad_Face

Trust only goes so far, when money is concerned that is when you have safeguards, if you want to trust your wife then go ahead but dont be angry or shocked later if she fucks you over bug time should she divorce you.
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