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nicklebro 05/13/18 1:46:10 AM #102:	silentwing26x posted... nicklebro posted... didn't read the whole topic either. You obviously had enough trouble understanding the OP. She said she had $1000and was going to spend it on her per when she wanted to spend it on a lute.... Lol obviously this was extra money she was spending on a luxury. how is it obvious? her first sentence makes it sound like that's all she has She's spending $1000 on her pet, and if she wasn't spending it on that she'd spend it on a lute. What exactly about that post makes you think she's struggling to get by? Maybe you rushed through the one post you claimed to have read, but basically reading comprehension is all that's necessary to determine that this woman is not struggling to make ends meet. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:901257762] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>didn't read the whole topic either. You obviously had enough trouble understanding the OP. She said she had $1000and was going to spend it on her per when she wanted to spend it on a lute.... Lol obviously this was extra money she was spending on a luxury. </quote> how is it obvious? her first sentence makes it sound like that's all she has</quote> She's spending $1000 on her pet, and if she wasn't spending it on that she'd spend it on a lute. What exactly about that post makes you think she's struggling to get by? Maybe you rushed through the one post you claimed to have read, but basically reading comprehension is all that's necessary to determine that this woman is not struggling to make ends meet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 05/13/18 1:47:05 AM #103:	nicklebro posted... silentwing26x posted... nicklebro posted... didn't read the whole topic either. You obviously had enough trouble understanding the OP. She said she had $1000and was going to spend it on her per when she wanted to spend it on a lute.... Lol obviously this was extra money she was spending on a luxury. how is it obvious? her first sentence makes it sound like that's all she has She's spending $1000 on her pet, and if she wasn't spending it on that she'd spend it on a lute. What exactly about that post makes you think she's struggling to get by? Maybe you rushed through the one post you claimed to have read, but basically reading comprehension is all that's necessary to determine that this woman is not struggling to make ends meet. "I have about $1000 saved" Not "I have about $1000 extra saved" <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:901257787] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>didn't read the whole topic either. You obviously had enough trouble understanding the OP. She said she had $1000and was going to spend it on her per when she wanted to spend it on a lute.... Lol obviously this was extra money she was spending on a luxury. </quote> how is it obvious? her first sentence makes it sound like that's all she has</quote> She's spending $1000 on her pet, and if she wasn't spending it on that she'd spend it on a lute. What exactly about that post makes you think she's struggling to get by? Maybe you rushed through the one post you claimed to have read, but basically reading comprehension is all that's necessary to determine that this woman is not struggling to make ends meet.</quote> "I have about $1000 saved" Not "I have about $1000 extra saved"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 05/13/18 1:51:31 AM #104:	silentwing26x posted... nicklebro posted... silentwing26x posted... nicklebro posted... didn't read the whole topic either. You obviously had enough trouble understanding the OP. She said she had $1000and was going to spend it on her per when she wanted to spend it on a lute.... Lol obviously this was extra money she was spending on a luxury. how is it obvious? her first sentence makes it sound like that's all she has She's spending $1000 on her pet, and if she wasn't spending it on that she'd spend it on a lute. What exactly about that post makes you think she's struggling to get by? Maybe you rushed through the one post you claimed to have read, but basically reading comprehension is all that's necessary to determine that this woman is not struggling to make ends meet. "I have about $1000 saved" Not "I have about $1000 extra saved" Oh so now your claim is that you didn't even read the entire OP, you just read 6 words, skipped the rest and literally thought you had enough info to determine this woman has " a very disorganized set of priorities. it's evidence that this person is irresponsible and is likely bleeding money in many other decisions and areas." Lol you literally thought it was logical to make this wild leap in logic despite having read barely any of what she said? Remember when you were talking about desperately wanting to be right? Do you really think you're fooling anyone at this point? --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:901257954] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>didn't read the whole topic either. You obviously had enough trouble understanding the OP. She said she had $1000and was going to spend it on her per when she wanted to spend it on a lute.... Lol obviously this was extra money she was spending on a luxury. </quote> how is it obvious? her first sentence makes it sound like that's all she has</quote> She's spending $1000 on her pet, and if she wasn't spending it on that she'd spend it on a lute. What exactly about that post makes you think she's struggling to get by? Maybe you rushed through the one post you claimed to have read, but basically reading comprehension is all that's necessary to determine that this woman is not struggling to make ends meet.</quote> "I have about $1000 saved" Not "I have about $1000 extra saved"</quote> Oh so now your claim is that you didn't even read the entire OP, you just read 6 words, skipped the rest and literally thought you had enough info to determine this woman has " a very disorganized set of priorities. it's evidence that this person is irresponsible and is likely bleeding money in many other decisions and areas." Lol you literally thought it was logical to make this wild leap in logic despite having read barely any of what she said? Remember when you were talking about desperately wanting to be right? Do you really think you're fooling anyone at this point?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
silentwing26x 05/13/18 1:53:11 AM #105:	nicklebro posted... silentwing26x posted... nicklebro posted... silentwing26x posted... nicklebro posted... didn't read the whole topic either. You obviously had enough trouble understanding the OP. She said she had $1000and was going to spend it on her per when she wanted to spend it on a lute.... Lol obviously this was extra money she was spending on a luxury. how is it obvious? her first sentence makes it sound like that's all she has She's spending $1000 on her pet, and if she wasn't spending it on that she'd spend it on a lute. What exactly about that post makes you think she's struggling to get by? Maybe you rushed through the one post you claimed to have read, but basically reading comprehension is all that's necessary to determine that this woman is not struggling to make ends meet. "I have about $1000 saved" Not "I have about $1000 extra saved" Oh so now your claim is that you didn't even read the entire OP, you just read 6 words, skipped the rest and literally thought you had enough info to determine this woman has " a very disorganized set of priorities. it's evidence that this person is irresponsible and is likely bleeding money in many other decisions and areas." Lol you literally thought it was logical to make this wild leap in logic despite having read barely any of what she said? Remember when you were talking about desperately wanting to be right? Do you really think you're fooling anyone at this point? nothing about the rest of her post suggests it was extra money. the reply to her post was someone else also talking about splurging everything they had. <cite>silentwing26x posted [p:901258015] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote><cite>nicklebro posted...</cite> <quote>didn't read the whole topic either. You obviously had enough trouble understanding the OP. She said she had $1000and was going to spend it on her per when she wanted to spend it on a lute.... Lol obviously this was extra money she was spending on a luxury. </quote> how is it obvious? her first sentence makes it sound like that's all she has</quote> She's spending $1000 on her pet, and if she wasn't spending it on that she'd spend it on a lute. What exactly about that post makes you think she's struggling to get by? Maybe you rushed through the one post you claimed to have read, but basically reading comprehension is all that's necessary to determine that this woman is not struggling to make ends meet.</quote> "I have about $1000 saved" Not "I have about $1000 extra saved"</quote> Oh so now your claim is that you didn't even read the entire OP, you just read 6 words, skipped the rest and literally thought you had enough info to determine this woman has " a very disorganized set of priorities. it's evidence that this person is irresponsible and is likely bleeding money in many other decisions and areas." Lol you literally thought it was logical to make this wild leap in logic despite having read barely any of what she said? Remember when you were talking about desperately wanting to be right? Do you really think you're fooling anyone at this point?</quote> nothing about the rest of her post suggests it was extra money. the reply to her post was someone else also talking about splurging everything they had.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
nicklebro 05/13/18 2:00:17 AM #106:	silentwing26x posted... nothing about the rest of her post suggests it was extra money. the reply to her post was someone else also talking about splurging everything they had. Except for the fact that she was spending it on what you have acknowledged is a luxury. There's a difference between "saving" money for rent and overhead and "saving" money for luxuries. Of course this requires you actually read what she posted rather than just making completely baseless conclusions about her. Lol I mean really in haven't even told you to defend claiming that she's irresponsible and most likely bleeding money in different areas all because she spent $20 to celebrate a once a year event. Fact is that your horrendous reading comprehension and rush to judgment led you to misunderstand what this womans situation was, and now you're too proud to admit you made a mistake. And that's obvious to everyone reading this topic. --- Now you can't call me a sigless user. <cite>nicklebro posted [p:901258267] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>silentwing26x posted...</cite> <quote> nothing about the rest of her post suggests it was extra money. the reply to her post was someone else also talking about splurging everything they had.</quote> Except for the fact that she was spending it on what you have acknowledged is a luxury. There's a difference between "saving" money for rent and overhead and "saving" money for luxuries. Of course this requires you actually read what she posted rather than just making completely baseless conclusions about her. Lol I mean really in haven't even told you to defend claiming that she's irresponsible and most likely bleeding money in different areas all because she spent $20 to celebrate a once a year event. Fact is that your horrendous reading comprehension and rush to judgment led you to misunderstand what this womans situation was, and now you're too proud to admit you made a mistake. And that's obvious to everyone reading this topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 05/13/18 9:36:19 AM #107:	Muffinz0rz posted... How is it irrelevant? In general, the more hours one works, the more one gets paid. Ergo, one should not be surprised when a profession with a built-in 3-4 months off gets paid less than other full-time professions. she didn't express surprise. at least, not in these screenshots --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:901267178] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>How is it irrelevant? In general, the more hours one works, the more one gets paid. Ergo, one should not be surprised when a profession with a built-in 3-4 months off gets paid less than other full-time professions.</quote> she didn't express surprise. at least, not in these screenshots</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/13/18 9:46:49 AM #108:	Maybe she really really enjoys teaching. Maybe that job gives her an emotional sense of fulfillment that she wouldn't get from working in another, potentially better-paying line of work. Anyone who ever looks at someone's life situation, sees them lament about money, and suggests "just work at a higher paying job" is only outing themselves as to how socially stunted they are that they can't fathom other factors that go into a career besides how much it pays. But then, TC only provided two social media posts of this alleged friend (still not 100% buying it), so all we have to go on her is his lens. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:901267460] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>Maybe she really really enjoys teaching. Maybe that job gives her an emotional sense of fulfillment that she wouldn't get from working in another, potentially better-paying line of work. Anyone who ever looks at someone's life situation, sees them lament about money, and suggests "just work at a higher paying job" is only outing themselves as to how socially stunted they are that they can't fathom other factors that go into a career besides how much it pays. But then, TC only provided two social media posts of this alleged friend (still not 100% buying it), so all we have to go on her is his lens.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 05/13/18 9:54:59 AM #109:	Muffinz0rz posted... How is it irrelevant? In general, the more hours one works, the more one gets paid. Ergo, one should not be surprised when a profession with a built-in 3-4 months off gets paid less than other full-time professions. Dude, do you know how many teachers work at home on school related shit during their time off? And theres no overtime for it either. Nights and weekends are spent planning for and grading work for 6 classes of 30+ students. My wife would have the house covered in English projects and papers while she graded them. And those summers off? A myth. Those summers are spent at workshops, trainings, and curriculum development. If youre a coach, you work all summer regardless, plus doing academic stuff. Everytime you work outside those 9 month school periods, its uncompensated overtime. But, I guess from the outside looking in it can look like teachers have it pretty sweet. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:901267648] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>How is it irrelevant? In general, the more hours one works, the more one gets paid. Ergo, one should not be surprised when a profession with a built-in 3-4 months off gets paid less than other full-time professions.</quote> Dude, do you know how many teachers work at home on school related shit during their time off? And theres no overtime for it either. Nights and weekends are spent planning for and grading work for 6 classes of 30+ students. My wife would have the house covered in English projects and papers while she graded them. And those summers off? A myth. Those summers are spent at workshops, trainings, and curriculum development. If youre a coach, you work all summer regardless, plus doing academic stuff. Everytime you work outside those 9 month school periods, its uncompensated overtime. But, I guess from the outside looking in it can look like teachers have it pretty sweet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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NinjaWarrior455 05/13/18 10:17:56 AM #111:	This topic is terrible. Close down this topic mods. --- Super Bowl 52 Champions!!!! http://myanimelist.net/animelist/NinjaWarrior457 <cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted [p:901268318] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>This topic is terrible. Close down this topic mods.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManBeast462 05/13/18 10:20:27 AM #112:	So she had an emergency fund and used it on an emergency, why is she whining? --- https://imgur.com/EKKJrY6 <cite>ManBeast462 posted [p:901268391] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>So she had an emergency fund and used it on an emergency, why is she whining?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManBeast462 05/13/18 10:23:48 AM #113:	Anteaterking posted... TheMikh posted... teaching is the lowest common denominator profession for college degree holders it attracts many who want job stability and authority with minimal risk, effort, and quite frankly competence, despite the amount of amazing and talented exceptions to this, which seem like a dying breed it's really unsurprising that many don't make responsible life decisions, and that society holds all of them in such high regard given such a state of affairs is quite frankly tragic You need a teaching certificate, which puts teaching above "generic business job that requires a degree" when it comes to lowest common denominator. You get the teaching cert just by having a degree --- https://imgur.com/EKKJrY6 <cite>ManBeast462 posted [p:901268511] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Anteaterking posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheMikh posted...</cite> <quote>teaching is the lowest common denominator profession for college degree holders it attracts many who want job stability and authority with minimal risk, effort, and quite frankly competence, despite the amount of amazing and talented exceptions to this, which seem like a dying breed it's really unsurprising that many don't make responsible life decisions, and that society holds all of them in such high regard given such a state of affairs is quite frankly tragic</quote> You need a teaching certificate, which puts teaching above "generic business job that requires a degree" when it comes to lowest common denominator.</quote> You get the teaching cert just by having a degree</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ManBeast462 05/13/18 10:26:30 AM #114:	Ving_Rhames posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Based on what? You don't know shit about me or her so shut the fuck up unless you have something relevant to say. Nerve struck. Exposed yourself. Congratulations lmao Oh no, muffins, dont get so upset lol --- https://imgur.com/EKKJrY6 <cite>ManBeast462 posted [p:901268589] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ving_Rhames posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Based on what? You don't know shit about me or her so shut the fuck up unless you have something relevant to say.</quote> Nerve struck. Exposed yourself. Congratulations lmao</quote> Oh no, muffins, dont get so upset lol</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/13/18 10:57:47 AM #115:	NinjaWarrior455 posted... This topic is terrible. Close down this topic mods. This --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901269670] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>NinjaWarrior455 posted...</cite> <quote>This topic is terrible. Close down this topic mods.</quote> This</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DanHarenChamp 05/13/18 11:10:38 AM #116:	DoubleDare posted... I have no respect at all for anyone that uses the term "adulting" Grow the fuck up and be miserable and tolerate it like the rest of us. I dont think you are adulting right. Sounds like you need to fix your adulting. --- literally the pacers <cite>DanHarenChamp posted [p:901270202] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>DoubleDare posted...</cite> <quote>I have no respect at all for anyone that uses the term "adulting" Grow the fuck up and be miserable and tolerate it like the rest of us.</quote> I dont think you are adulting right. Sounds like you need to fix your adulting.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Mr_Biscuit 05/13/18 11:38:22 AM #117:	Its really cute that TC thinks teachers just dont work for those three months --- https://www.bigplay.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/img_6703.jpg <cite>Mr_Biscuit posted [p:901271218] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>Its really cute that TC thinks teachers just dont work for those three months</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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divot1338 05/13/18 11:43:22 AM #119:	If you were in a state government job in Texas for twenty years youll have about two months a year of vacation time. Its truly insane but I didnt complain because it meant at least once a week I didnt have to deal with my boss. --- Moustache twirling villian https://i.imgur.com/U3lt3H4.jpg- Kerbey <cite>divot1338 posted [p:901271401] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>If you were in a state government job in Texas for twenty years youll have about two months a year of vacation time. Its truly insane but I didnt complain because it meant at least once a week I didnt have to deal with my boss.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 05/13/18 12:07:52 PM #120:	Lots of misinformation here, so I'll try and clear it up since I'm an actual teacher. 1. You don't get 3 month summers. My district gets out June 13th and we come back August 20th. That's still a ton of time but our time off is always scheduled and we don't get the option to take off whenever during the year. 2. Summers are not usually spent planning for most. Granted I definitely take a look at some of my lessons throughout the summer, I'm certainly not spending everyday focusing on that. Most of the work is professional developments which are mandatory. 3. I routinely work 12 hour days (in at 6 out at 6). This isn't a woe is me point, but rather pointing out that we make up for any time off during the year easily. 4. Teacher money is fine...if you're single. As a guy without a family to support I am definitely financially stable. I got a healthy savings account and i can cover my bills just fine. If i wanted to start a family i would definitely need a second job or my wife would need to have a great job. 5. It's stressful as all hell but it's a great job. I had a regular 9-5 that paid well but it was painfully boring. I now work way harder for slightly less money but I am NEVER bored at work. I love teaching and if anyone complains about ut routinely they should consider getting out. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:901272372] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>Lots of misinformation here, so I'll try and clear it up since I'm an actual teacher. 1. You don't get 3 month summers. My district gets out June 13th and we come back August 20th. That's still a ton of time but our time off is always scheduled and we don't get the option to take off whenever during the year. 2. Summers are not usually spent planning for most. Granted I definitely take a look at some of my lessons throughout the summer, I'm certainly not spending everyday focusing on that. Most of the work is professional developments which are mandatory. 3. I routinely work 12 hour days (in at 6 out at 6). This isn't a woe is me point, but rather pointing out that we make up for any time off during the year easily. 4. Teacher money is fine...if you're single. As a guy without a family to support I am definitely financially stable. I got a healthy savings account and i can cover my bills just fine. If i wanted to start a family i would definitely need a second job or my wife would need to have a great job. 5. It's stressful as all hell but it's a great job. I had a regular 9-5 that paid well but it was painfully boring. I now work way harder for slightly less money but I am NEVER bored at work. I love teaching and if anyone complains about ut routinely they should consider getting out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 05/13/18 12:34:31 PM #121:	averagejoel posted... Muffinz0rz posted... How is it irrelevant? In general, the more hours one works, the more one gets paid. Ergo, one should not be surprised when a profession with a built-in 3-4 months off gets paid less than other full-time professions. she didn't express surprise. at least, not in these screenshots Surprise, confusion, concern, whatever. She's clearly expressing something. scorpion41 posted... Dude, do you know how many teachers work at home on school related shit during their time off? And theres no overtime for it either. Nights and weekends are spent planning for and grading work for 6 classes of 30+ students. My wife would have the house covered in English projects and papers while she graded them. And those summers off? A myth. Those summers are spent at workshops, trainings, and curriculum development. If youre a coach, you work all summer regardless, plus doing academic stuff. Everytime you work outside those 9 month school periods, its uncompensated overtime. But, I guess from the outside looking in it can look like teachers have it pretty sweet. Even though a literal teacher ITT said some get paid year-round? You can't choose to get paid only during the school year and then complain about not getting overtime pay over summer. GregShmedley posted... Like, the topic backfired on you 100%. Source? It's a pretty reasonable conversation IMO, once you sprinkle out the people like you who deliberately flame the conversation with stuff like "rekt, upset, mad, etc.," instead of actually producing points. I'm simply responding in kind to each post as it is presented. In your case, you shitpost, so I shitpost in return. In others' cases, for those who provide value or decent points, I provide a normal response. So, sweeping declaration: I will no longer be responding to those ITT who simply post flaming comments like "rekt, bodied, meltdown, etc." You have nothing of value to provide, and only get off on piggybacking others' comments. If you have something of value to provide? I will gladly reply. Otherwise, Muff off. justaguy3492 posted... Summers are not usually spent planning for most. Granted I definitely take a look at some of my lessons throughout the summer, I'm certainly not spending everyday focusing on that. Most of the work is professional developments which are mandatory. This is where I think people like to blow things out of proportion. The way I perceive it, as you enter your very first year you've got a curriculum. You've got an entire year to create. That is a lot of work, I imagine. But for every year beyond, you don't have to create a brand new year from scratch. It's more tweaking, or taking a look at your plans as you said, and maybe adjusting some things here or there. Mandatory professional development is new to me, can you elaborate on it? justaguy3492 posted... Teacher money is fine...if you're single. As a guy without a family to support I am definitely financially stable. I got a healthy savings account and i can cover my bills just fine. If i wanted to start a family i would definitely need a second job or my wife would need to have a great job. Yeah I believe it. Can you elaborate on the benefits? Like pension and whatnot? I've been led to understand that those really shine for teachers, i.e. basically immune to firing, great retirement, etc. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (2-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:901273529] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>How is it irrelevant? In general, the more hours one works, the more one gets paid. Ergo, one should not be surprised when a profession with a built-in 3-4 months off gets paid less than other full-time professions.</quote> she didn't express surprise. at least, not in these screenshots</quote> Surprise, confusion, concern, whatever. She's clearly expressing something. <cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>Dude, do you know how many teachers work at home on school related shit during their time off? And theres no overtime for it either. Nights and weekends are spent planning for and grading work for 6 classes of 30+ students. My wife would have the house covered in English projects and papers while she graded them. And those summers off? A myth. Those summers are spent at workshops, trainings, and curriculum development. If youre a coach, you work all summer regardless, plus doing academic stuff. Everytime you work outside those 9 month school periods, its uncompensated overtime. But, I guess from the outside looking in it can look like teachers have it pretty sweet.</quote> Even though a literal teacher ITT said some get paid year-round? You can't choose to get paid only during the school year and then complain about not getting overtime pay over summer. <cite>GregShmedley posted...</cite> <quote>Like, the topic backfired on you 100%.</quote> Source? It's a pretty reasonable conversation IMO, once you sprinkle out the people like you who deliberately flame the conversation with stuff like "rekt, upset, mad, etc.," instead of actually producing points. I'm simply responding in kind to each post as it is presented. In your case, you shitpost, so I shitpost in return. In others' cases, for those who provide value or decent points, I provide a normal response. <cite>So, sweeping declaration:</cite> I will no longer be responding to those ITT who simply post flaming comments like "rekt, bodied, meltdown, etc." You have nothing of value to provide, and only get off on piggybacking others' comments. If you have something of value to provide? I will gladly reply. Otherwise, Muff off. <cite>justaguy3492 posted...</cite> <quote>Summers are not usually spent planning for most. Granted I definitely take a look at some of my lessons throughout the summer, I'm certainly not spending everyday focusing on that. Most of the work is professional developments which are mandatory.</quote> This is where I think people like to blow things out of proportion. The way I perceive it, as you enter your very first year you've got a curriculum. You've got an entire year to create. That is a lot of work, I imagine. But for every year beyond, you don't have to create a brand new year from scratch. It's more tweaking, or taking a look at your plans as you said, and maybe adjusting some things here or there. Mandatory professional development is new to me, can you elaborate on it? <cite>justaguy3492 posted...</cite> <quote>Teacher money is fine...if you're single. As a guy without a family to support I am definitely financially stable. I got a healthy savings account and i can cover my bills just fine. If i wanted to start a family i would definitely need a second job or my wife would need to have a great job.</quote> Yeah I believe it. Can you elaborate on the benefits? Like pension and whatnot? I've been led to understand that those really shine for teachers, i.e. basically immune to firing, great retirement, etc.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 05/13/18 12:52:45 PM #122:	Yes and no when it comes to replanning. You never really have to throw everything out but as new educational tech comes to your classroom you're expected to utilize it. So for example i teach history, I never really have to revise the info on american revolution but i do have to change how it's taught (coming up with a project rather than just textbook readings for example). The pds all depend on where you work. For example there are schools in my district called turn around schools which pretty much require you to spend a month of summer in PD in order to try and fix the school. Also you're required to have a certain amount of act 48 hours which you get from PDs. As for the benefits it's tricky and again depends where you work. Disclaimer I'm young and dont use many of the benefits just yet. My understanding is my pension is fantastic...but the city district i work for has a history of underfunding it so when you go to actually collect you're left with nothing. I also pay into social security but i think my state has a law stating you cant have a pension and SS benefits. My healthcare and dental is amazing I really couldn't ask for it better, we used to get it for free but now pay 1.5% of our salary to it (still great). As for the whole non firing thing, yes in states with strong unions like mine its tough to get fired, but it's very easy for admin to make your life suck and more or pess force you out. They can pile on extra duties, assign another class to prep (like if i teach world history and American history they could assign me a 3rd class of french history or whatever which exponentially increases your work load.) You also have the issue of working with idiots who should be fired. Having to sit through a meeting with someone who has no business speaking in a professional environment is very draining. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:901274338] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>Yes and no when it comes to replanning. You never really have to throw everything out but as new educational tech comes to your classroom you're expected to utilize it. So for example i teach history, I never really have to revise the info on american revolution but i do have to change how it's taught (coming up with a project rather than just textbook readings for example). The pds all depend on where you work. For example there are schools in my district called turn around schools which pretty much require you to spend a month of summer in PD in order to try and fix the school. Also you're required to have a certain amount of act 48 hours which you get from PDs. As for the benefits it's tricky and again depends where you work. Disclaimer I'm young and dont use many of the benefits just yet. My understanding is my pension is fantastic...but the city district i work for has a history of underfunding it so when you go to actually collect you're left with nothing. I also pay into social security but i think my state has a law stating you cant have a pension and SS benefits. My healthcare and dental is amazing I really couldn't ask for it better, we used to get it for free but now pay 1.5% of our salary to it (still great). As for the whole non firing thing, yes in states with strong unions like mine its tough to get fired, but it's very easy for admin to make your life suck and more or pess force you out. They can pile on extra duties, assign another class to prep (like if i teach world history and American history they could assign me a 3rd class of french history or whatever which exponentially increases your work load.) You also have the issue of working with idiots who should be fired. Having to sit through a meeting with someone who has no business speaking in a professional environment is very draining.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 05/13/18 12:55:53 PM #123:	justaguy3492 posted... Yes and no when it comes to replanning. You never really have to throw everything out but as new educational tech comes to your classroom you're expected to utilize it. So for example i teach history, I never really have to revise the info on american revolution but i do have to change how it's taught (coming up with a project rather than just textbook readings for example). The pds all depend on where you work. For example there are schools in my district called turn around schools which pretty much require you to spend a month of summer in PD in order to try and fix the school. Also you're required to have a certain amount of act 48 hours which you get from PDs. Good shit. So aside from specific turnaround schools, in general, there is only ~48 hours (give or take, obviously based on location/district) that are required of you over summer? justaguy3492 posted... As for the benefits it's tricky and again depends where you work. Disclaimer I'm young and dont use many of the benefits just yet. My understanding is my pension is fantastic...but the city district i work for has a history of underfunding it so when you go to actually collect you're left with nothing. I also pay into social security but i think my state has a law stating you cant have a pension and SS benefits. My healthcare and dental is amazing I really couldn't ask for it better, we used to get it for free but now pay 1.5% of our salary to it (still great). As for the whole non firing thing, yes in states with strong unions like mine its tough to get fired, but it's very easy for admin to make your life suck and more or pess force you Sounds about right --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (2-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:901274473] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>justaguy3492 posted...</cite> <quote>Yes and no when it comes to replanning. You never really have to throw everything out but as new educational tech comes to your classroom you're expected to utilize it. So for example i teach history, I never really have to revise the info on american revolution but i do have to change how it's taught (coming up with a project rather than just textbook readings for example). The pds all depend on where you work. For example there are schools in my district called turn around schools which pretty much require you to spend a month of summer in PD in order to try and fix the school. Also you're required to have a certain amount of act 48 hours which you get from PDs.</quote> Good shit. So aside from specific turnaround schools, in general, there is only ~48 hours (give or take, obviously based on location/district) that are required of you over summer? <cite>justaguy3492 posted...</cite> <quote>As for the benefits it's tricky and again depends where you work. Disclaimer I'm young and dont use many of the benefits just yet. My understanding is my pension is fantastic...but the city district i work for has a history of underfunding it so when you go to actually collect you're left with nothing. I also pay into social security but i think my state has a law stating you cant have a pension and SS benefits. My healthcare and dental is amazing I really couldn't ask for it better, we used to get it for free but now pay 1.5% of our salary to it (still great). As for the whole non firing thing, yes in states with strong unions like mine its tough to get fired, but it's very easy for admin to make your life suck and more or pess force you</quote> Sounds about right</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
justaguy3492 05/13/18 1:12:15 PM #124:	No when i say act 48 thats just an educational law. The number of hours is more than that, not sure on an exact number though. Again if admin doesn't build in PD days then you can get stuck having to do them on your own time. One other thing is you don't get overtime so working weekends does nothing for your paycheck. We're expected to do extra stuff to benefit the school (fundraisers and stuff) and talk about having to buy your own supplies is very real, we got half a case of paper to last us the year. I had to go buy 2 more cases. I'm all for going paperless, but most of our students dont have access to a computer or internet at home (and i dont believe making a kid go to the library every night to do homework is something we should be forcing). Like i said it's a fantastic job and anyone that dreads it should be looking to get out, but there are a lot of things that could and should change in order to benefit teachers and students alike. --- Gt: justaguy3492 <cite>justaguy3492 posted [p:901275137] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>No when i say act 48 thats just an educational law. The number of hours is more than that, not sure on an exact number though. Again if admin doesn't build in PD days then you can get stuck having to do them on your own time. One other thing is you don't get overtime so working weekends does nothing for your paycheck. We're expected to do extra stuff to benefit the school (fundraisers and stuff) and talk about having to buy your own supplies is very real, we got half a case of paper to last us the year. I had to go buy 2 more cases. I'm all for going paperless, but most of our students dont have access to a computer or internet at home (and i dont believe making a kid go to the library every night to do homework is something we should be forcing). Like i said it's a fantastic job and anyone that dreads it should be looking to get out, but there are a lot of things that could and should change in order to benefit teachers and students alike.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
RockRapDubstep 05/13/18 3:23:17 PM #125:	Muffinz0rz posted... Surprise, confusion, concern, whatever. She's clearly expressing something. TC not being able to understand the emotions people are expressing is suddenly making your posting make a bit more sense --- God dan gets cold as difficult dick after 30 man hays or less. - pres_madagascar <cite>RockRapDubstep posted [p:901280890] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Surprise, confusion, concern, whatever. She's clearly expressing something.</quote> TC not being able to understand the emotions people are expressing is suddenly making your posting make a bit more sense </quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 05/13/18 3:38:23 PM #126:	RockRapDubstep posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Surprise, confusion, concern, whatever. She's clearly expressing something. TC not being able to understand the emotions people are expressing is suddenly making your posting make a bit more sense What would you describe her expressions as? --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (2-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:901281583] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>RockRapDubstep posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Surprise, confusion, concern, whatever. She's clearly expressing something.</quote> TC not being able to understand the emotions people are expressing is suddenly making your posting make a bit more sense </quote> What would you describe her expressions as?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 05/13/18 3:39:59 PM #127:	Muffinz0rz Even though a literal teacher ITT said some get paid year-round? You can't choose to get paid only during the school year and then complain about not getting overtime pay over summer. What teacher gets paid a 12 month salary? Teacher salaries are 9 months, 10 for Ag teachers, stretched over 12 months. They used to give you the option of a 9 month or 12 month schedule, but almost all districts just go the 12 month route since thats what the majority chooses. Summer vacation months are not counted in that salary schedule. So teachers work uncompensated during summer. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:901281640] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz</cite> <quote>Even though a literal teacher ITT said some get paid year-round? You can't choose to get paid only during the school year and then complain about not getting overtime pay over summer.</quote> What teacher gets paid a 12 month salary? Teacher salaries are 9 months, 10 for Ag teachers, stretched over 12 months. They used to give you the option of a 9 month or 12 month schedule, but almost all districts just go the 12 month route since thats what the majority chooses. Summer vacation months are not counted in that salary schedule. So teachers work uncompensated during summer.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
CyricZ 05/13/18 3:40:22 PM #128:	Muffinz0rz posted... What would you describe her expressions as? You could ask her, person who allegedly knows her. --- CyricZ <cite>CyricZ posted [p:901281660] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>What would you describe her expressions as?</quote> You could ask her, person who allegedly knows her.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 05/13/18 3:45:03 PM #129:	As a millennial teacher myself I have no idea what this topic is about. --- Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and Fortnite PC: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:901281875] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>As a millennial teacher myself I have no idea what this topic is about.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 05/13/18 3:46:36 PM #130:	scorpion41 posted... What teacher gets paid a 12 month salary? scorpion41 posted... almost all districts just go the 12 month route since thats what the majority chooses Um CyricZ posted... Muffinz0rz posted... What would you describe her expressions as? You could ask her, person who allegedly knows her. Lol stop pretending like I regularly communicate with more than a fraction of nearly a thousand facebook friends. I'm not gonna reach out to someone I occasionally spoke to in high school nearly a decade ago over a silly question. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (2-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:901281949] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>What teacher gets paid a 12 month salary?</quote> <cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>almost all districts just go the 12 month route since thats what the majority chooses</quote> Um <cite>CyricZ posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>What would you describe her expressions as?</quote> You could ask her, person who allegedly knows her.</quote> Lol stop pretending like I regularly communicate with more than a fraction of nearly a thousand facebook friends. I'm not gonna reach out to someone I occasionally spoke to in high school nearly a decade ago over a silly question.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 05/13/18 3:50:18 PM #131:	Muffinz0rz posted... RockRapDubstep posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Surprise, confusion, concern, whatever. She's clearly expressing something. TC not being able to understand the emotions people are expressing is suddenly making your posting make a bit more sense What would you describe her expressions as? first picture: posting about a vet bill second picture: enjoying the star of a vacation. you: making it seem as though there's some contradiction in her logic, when she wasn't even making an argument in the first place --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:901282146] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RockRapDubstep posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Surprise, confusion, concern, whatever. She's clearly expressing something.</quote> TC not being able to understand the emotions people are expressing is suddenly making your posting make a bit more sense </quote> What would you describe her expressions as?</quote> first picture: posting about a vet bill second picture: enjoying the star of a vacation. you: making it seem as though there's some contradiction in her logic, when she wasn't even making an argument in the first place</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/13/18 3:54:52 PM #133:	A_Good_Boy posted... So she had 1k saved up for her pet then a few weeks later spent about 20 bucks on drinks. What's the problem here? Guys like TC think that you have you spend any amount of money on yourself it means you make more than you should and shouldnt complain about being underpaid. Its this fallacy that they keep pushing despite being the dumbest thing ever thought. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:901282359] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>So she had 1k saved up for her pet then a few weeks later spent about 20 bucks on drinks. What's the problem here?</quote> Guys like TC think that you have you spend any amount of money on yourself it means you make more than you should and shouldnt complain about being underpaid. Its this fallacy that they keep pushing despite being the dumbest thing ever thought.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 05/13/18 3:56:05 PM #134:	averagejoel posted... Muffinz0rz posted... RockRapDubstep posted... Muffinz0rz posted... Surprise, confusion, concern, whatever. She's clearly expressing something. TC not being able to understand the emotions people are expressing is suddenly making your posting make a bit more sense What would you describe her expressions as? first picture: posting about a vet bill second picture: enjoying the star of a vacation. you: making it seem as though there's some contradiction in her logic, when she wasn't even making an argument in the first place If all you took away from the first image is that it's a vet bill, then you're clearly either A.) too blind to see what I've been talking about this whole time, or B.), the more likely option, still trolling. Look at the image again. She has $1,000. She wants to use it on some music thing, but she has to use it on her dog. Using basic common sense, one can surmise that her savings amount does not surpass $2,000. Otherwise, she could have her dog taken care of and her music thing. Please stop trolling, it's not a good look for you. TheVipaGTS posted... A_Good_Boy posted... So she had 1k saved up for her pet then a few weeks later spent about 20 bucks on drinks. What's the problem here? Guys like TC think that you have you spend any amount of money on yourself it means you make more than you should and shouldnt complain about being underpaid. Its this fallacy that they keep pushing despite being the dumbest thing ever thought. When have I ever supported that argument? (Assuming I'm reading it correctly) --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (2-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:901282407] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>RockRapDubstep posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>Surprise, confusion, concern, whatever. She's clearly expressing something.</quote> TC not being able to understand the emotions people are expressing is suddenly making your posting make a bit more sense </quote> What would you describe her expressions as?</quote> first picture: posting about a vet bill second picture: enjoying the star of a vacation. you: making it seem as though there's some contradiction in her logic, when she wasn't even making an argument in the first place</quote> If all you took away from the first image is that it's a vet bill, then you're clearly either A.) too blind to see what I've been talking about this whole time, or B.), the more likely option, still trolling. Look at the image again. She has $1,000. She wants to use it on some music thing, but she has to use it on her dog. Using basic common sense, one can surmise that her savings amount does not surpass $2,000. Otherwise, she could have her dog taken care of and her music thing. Please stop trolling, it's not a good look for you. <cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote><cite>A_Good_Boy posted...</cite> <quote>So she had 1k saved up for her pet then a few weeks later spent about 20 bucks on drinks. What's the problem here?</quote> Guys like TC think that you have you spend any amount of money on yourself it means you make more than you should and shouldnt complain about being underpaid. Its this fallacy that they keep pushing despite being the dumbest thing ever thought.</quote> When have I ever supported that argument? (Assuming I'm reading it correctly)</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/13/18 3:59:55 PM #135:	You seem to be making that argument. Why else post both those screenshots and imply the person was being contradictory. She talked about how she had to spend the little money she had on her animal, then a few weeks later got a drink with a friend...Im not sure what youre taking issue with... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:901282592] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>You seem to be making that argument. Why else post both those screenshots and imply the person was being contradictory. She talked about how she had to spend the little money she had on her animal, then a few weeks later got a drink with a friend...Im not sure what youre taking issue with...</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 05/13/18 4:31:06 PM #136:	@Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:901284119] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>@Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 05/13/18 4:57:43 PM #137:	scorpion41 posted... @Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary. wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year. --- Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and Fortnite PC: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:901285358] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>@Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary.</quote> wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Solid Snake07 05/13/18 5:00:56 PM #138:	Most teachers work another job in the summer --- "People incapable of guilt usually do have a good time" -Detective Rust Cohle <cite>Solid Snake07 posted [p:901285499] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>Most teachers work another job in the summer</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 05/13/18 5:02:03 PM #139:	Solid Snake07 posted... Most teachers work another job in the summer I would say "some" not "most." --- Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and Fortnite PC: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:901285544] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Solid Snake07 posted...</cite> <quote>Most teachers work another job in the summer</quote> I would say "some" not "most."</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 05/13/18 5:08:47 PM #140:	Muffin stop doing that thing where a person sows discord on the Internet by disrupting normal discussion. You know plenty well that teachers work during the summer often without pay, and that you're saying it's vice versa. So just be the fuck quiet. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:901285862] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>Muffin stop doing that thing where a person sows discord on the Internet by disrupting normal discussion. You know plenty well that teachers work during the summer often without pay, and that you're saying it's vice versa. So just be the fuck quiet.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 05/13/18 6:51:41 PM #141:	billcom6 posted... scorpion41 posted... @Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary. wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year. Teacher salaries are 9 month salaries. So a teacher in Louisiana making about 42,000 in 9 months, but they take that and stretch it over 12. If it were a true 12 month salary theyd make more around 53,000 for that year. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:901290595] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>@Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary.</quote> wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year.</quote> Teacher salaries are 9 month salaries. So a teacher in Louisiana making about 42,000 in 9 months, but they take that and stretch it over 12. If it were a true 12 month salary theyd make more around 53,000 for that year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 05/13/18 7:14:15 PM #142:	scorpion41 posted... billcom6 posted... scorpion41 posted... @Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary. wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year. Teacher salaries are 9 month salaries. So a teacher in Louisiana making about 42,000 in 9 months, but they take that and stretch it over 12. If it were a true 12 month salary theyd make more around 53,000 for that year. No teacher's salaries are for working a year in their field. They are being paid for a year's worth of work, just because they are only "in the office" for 9 months doesn't make it a "9 month salary." That is like saying since the NFL season goes from August to January that NFL players only get a 6 month salary. --- Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and Fortnite PC: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:901291670] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>@Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary.</quote> wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year.</quote> Teacher salaries are 9 month salaries. So a teacher in Louisiana making about 42,000 in 9 months, but they take that and stretch it over 12. If it were a true 12 month salary theyd make more around 53,000 for that year.</quote> No teacher's salaries are for working a year in their field. They are being paid for a year's worth of work, just because they are only "in the office" for 9 months doesn't make it a "9 month salary." That is like saying since the NFL season goes from August to January that NFL players only get a 6 month salary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
averagejoel 05/13/18 7:30:23 PM #143:	Muffinz0rz posted... If all you took away from the first image is that it's a vet bill, then you're clearly either A.) too blind to see what I've been talking about this whole time, or B.), the more likely option, still trolling. Look at the image again. She has $1,000. She wants to use it on some music thing, but she has to use it on her dog. Using basic common sense, one can surmise that her savings amount does not surpass $2,000. Otherwise, she could have her dog taken care of and her music thing. ok? and what does this have to do with anything? --- peanut butter and dick <cite>averagejoel posted [p:901292422] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>If all you took away from the first image is that it's a vet bill, then you're clearly either A.) too blind to see what I've been talking about this whole time, or B.), the more likely option, still trolling. Look at the image again. She has $1,000. She wants to use it on some music thing, but she has to use it on her dog. Using basic common sense, one can surmise that her savings amount does not surpass $2,000. Otherwise, she could have her dog taken care of and her music thing.</quote> ok? and what does this have to do with anything?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 05/13/18 9:10:35 PM #144:	billcom6 posted... scorpion41 posted... billcom6 posted... scorpion41 posted... @Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary. wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year. Teacher salaries are 9 month salaries. So a teacher in Louisiana making about 42,000 in 9 months, but they take that and stretch it over 12. If it were a true 12 month salary theyd make more around 53,000 for that year. No teacher's salaries are for working a year in their field. They are being paid for a year's worth of work, just because they are only "in the office" for 9 months doesn't make it a "9 month salary." That is like saying since the NFL season goes from August to January that NFL players only get a 6 month salary. No, buddy. Teachers are paid for work done from September to May. June to August is technically unpaid. Thats why Ag teachers get paid more than regular teachers because they work that extra month during the summer. Its not because theyre more valuable or some other crap they try to use to justify the extra pay. --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:901296776] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>@Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary.</quote> wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year.</quote> Teacher salaries are 9 month salaries. So a teacher in Louisiana making about 42,000 in 9 months, but they take that and stretch it over 12. If it were a true 12 month salary theyd make more around 53,000 for that year.</quote> No teacher's salaries are for working a year in their field. They are being paid for a year's worth of work, just because they are only "in the office" for 9 months doesn't make it a "9 month salary." That is like saying since the NFL season goes from August to January that NFL players only get a 6 month salary.</quote> No, buddy. Teachers are paid for work done from September to May. June to August is technically unpaid. Thats why Ag teachers get paid more than regular teachers because they work that extra month during the summer. Its not because theyre more valuable or some other crap they try to use to justify the extra pay.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
billcom6 05/13/18 9:15:48 PM #145:	scorpion41 posted... billcom6 posted... scorpion41 posted... billcom6 posted... scorpion41 posted... @Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary. wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year. Teacher salaries are 9 month salaries. So a teacher in Louisiana making about 42,000 in 9 months, but they take that and stretch it over 12. If it were a true 12 month salary theyd make more around 53,000 for that year. No teacher's salaries are for working a year in their field. They are being paid for a year's worth of work, just because they are only "in the office" for 9 months doesn't make it a "9 month salary." That is like saying since the NFL season goes from August to January that NFL players only get a 6 month salary. No, buddy. Teachers are paid for work done from September to May. June to August is technically unpaid. Thats why Ag teachers get paid more than regular teachers because they work that extra month during the summer. Its not because theyre more valuable or some other crap they try to use to justify the extra pay. Ag. Ed teacher work the same schedule as every other teacher in my state and get paid the same as every other teacher. If they get paid more than "regular" in other areas I would be curious as to how those contracts are written. Then again, what do I know about how teachers get paid or what they get paid for or anything like that, I'm only a teacher. --- Because most days are bad days... --- Steam and Fortnite PC: billcom6 My Teams: The Ohio State Buckeyes, New York Yankees, Buffalo Bills, The CBJ, Cavs <cite>billcom6 posted [p:901296983] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>@Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary.</quote> wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year.</quote> Teacher salaries are 9 month salaries. So a teacher in Louisiana making about 42,000 in 9 months, but they take that and stretch it over 12. If it were a true 12 month salary theyd make more around 53,000 for that year.</quote> No teacher's salaries are for working a year in their field. They are being paid for a year's worth of work, just because they are only "in the office" for 9 months doesn't make it a "9 month salary." That is like saying since the NFL season goes from August to January that NFL players only get a 6 month salary.</quote> No, buddy. Teachers are paid for work done from September to May. June to August is technically unpaid. Thats why Ag teachers get paid more than regular teachers because they work that extra month during the summer. Its not because theyre more valuable or some other crap they try to use to justify the extra pay.</quote> Ag. Ed teacher work the same schedule as every other teacher in my state and get paid the same as every other teacher. If they get paid more than "regular" in other areas I would be curious as to how those contracts are written. Then again, what do I know about how teachers get paid or what they get paid for or anything like that, I'm only a teacher.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Medussa 05/13/18 9:15:50 PM #146:	salary is salary. 50k a year is 50k a year. --- Boom! That's right, this is all happening! You cannot change the channel now! Act now! Venchmen are standing by for your orders! <cite>Medussa posted [p:901296985] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>salary is salary. 50k a year is 50k a year.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scorpion41 05/13/18 9:19:06 PM #147:	billcom6 posted... scorpion41 posted... billcom6 posted... scorpion41 posted... billcom6 posted... scorpion41 posted... @Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary. wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year. Teacher salaries are 9 month salaries. So a teacher in Louisiana making about 42,000 in 9 months, but they take that and stretch it over 12. If it were a true 12 month salary theyd make more around 53,000 for that year. No teacher's salaries are for working a year in their field. They are being paid for a year's worth of work, just because they are only "in the office" for 9 months doesn't make it a "9 month salary." That is like saying since the NFL season goes from August to January that NFL players only get a 6 month salary. No, buddy. Teachers are paid for work done from September to May. June to August is technically unpaid. Thats why Ag teachers get paid more than regular teachers because they work that extra month during the summer. Its not because theyre more valuable or some other crap they try to use to justify the extra pay. Ag. Ed teacher work the same schedule as every other teacher in my state and get paid the same as every other teacher. If they get paid more than "regular" in other areas I would be curious as to how those contracts are written. Then again, what do I know about how teachers get paid or what they get paid for or anything like that, I'm only a teacher. Hey me too! About to go into my tenth year. But, what do I know, right? --- PSN: scorpion_4160 Currently Playing: NCAA 14, Darksiders series(PS3) <cite>scorpion41 posted [p:901297117] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>billcom6 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>scorpion41 posted...</cite> <quote>@Muffinz0rz Still never answered my question:what school teacher makes the equivalent of a 12 month salary? A 9 month salary divided into 12 months is still a 9 month salary.</quote> wat If I make the same amount as a person who works 12 months, but I happen to only work 9 months, how isn't that equivalent to a 12 month salary? I get paid year round but it isn't 9 months divided into 12 months, it is a year's salary divided by a year.</quote> Teacher salaries are 9 month salaries. So a teacher in Louisiana making about 42,000 in 9 months, but they take that and stretch it over 12. If it were a true 12 month salary theyd make more around 53,000 for that year.</quote> No teacher's salaries are for working a year in their field. They are being paid for a year's worth of work, just because they are only "in the office" for 9 months doesn't make it a "9 month salary." That is like saying since the NFL season goes from August to January that NFL players only get a 6 month salary.</quote> No, buddy. Teachers are paid for work done from September to May. June to August is technically unpaid. Thats why Ag teachers get paid more than regular teachers because they work that extra month during the summer. Its not because theyre more valuable or some other crap they try to use to justify the extra pay.</quote> Ag. Ed teacher work the same schedule as every other teacher in my state and get paid the same as every other teacher. If they get paid more than "regular" in other areas I would be curious as to how those contracts are written. Then again, what do I know about how teachers get paid or what they get paid for or anything like that, I'm only a teacher.</quote> Hey me too! About to go into my tenth year. But, what do I know, right?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 05/14/18 11:15:50 AM #148:	TheVipaGTS posted... You seem to be making that argument. Why else post both those screenshots and imply the person was being contradictory. She talked about how she had to spend the little money she had on her animal, then a few weeks later got a drink with a friend...Im not sure what youre taking issue with... The post has nothing to do with how she spends her free time. The post is about how she seems to be missing the fact that she gets 3-4 months off work every year and her paycheck shows it. For example, in general, someone who works a 9-5 job year-round might make, let's say, 100,000/yr for ease of math. If that person decided to take 25% of the year off (three months) as unpaid vacation, that person should not be surprised when they only have 75,000 in their paycheck. The difference is, teachers have this vacation time built in, so it's not surprising when average teacher salaries are a lot lower than most full-time professions. ledbowman posted... Muffin stop doing that thing where a person sows discord on the Internet by disrupting normal discussion. You know plenty well that teachers work during the summer often without pay, and that you're saying it's vice versa. So just be the fuck quiet. Uh, what? I'm the one actually replying to any posts of reason. Look at the guys who walk in to say "rekt," "bodied," or generally just are trolling. Why are you taking issue with me and not them? averagejoel posted... Muffinz0rz posted... If all you took away from the first image is that it's a vet bill, then you're clearly either A.) too blind to see what I've been talking about this whole time, or B.), the more likely option, still trolling. Look at the image again. She has $1,000. She wants to use it on some music thing, but she has to use it on her dog. Using basic common sense, one can surmise that her savings amount does not surpass $2,000. Otherwise, she could have her dog taken care of and her music thing. ok? and what does this have to do with anything? Lol, it's A and B with you. --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (2-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:901320983] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>You seem to be making that argument. Why else post both those screenshots and imply the person was being contradictory. She talked about how she had to spend the little money she had on her animal, then a few weeks later got a drink with a friend...Im not sure what youre taking issue with...</quote> The post has nothing to do with how she spends her free time. The post is about how she seems to be missing the fact that she gets 3-4 months off work every year and her paycheck shows it. For example, in general, someone who works a 9-5 job year-round might make, let's say, 100,000/yr for ease of math. If that person decided to take 25% of the year off (three months) as unpaid vacation, that person should not be surprised when they only have 75,000 in their paycheck. The difference is, teachers have this vacation time built in, so it's not surprising when average teacher salaries are a lot lower than most full-time professions. <cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>Muffin stop doing that thing where a person sows discord on the Internet by disrupting normal discussion. You know plenty well that teachers work during the summer often without pay, and that you're saying it's vice versa. So just be the fuck quiet.</quote> Uh, what? I'm the one actually replying to any posts of reason. Look at the guys who walk in to say "rekt," "bodied," or generally just are trolling. Why are you taking issue with me and not them? <cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>If all you took away from the first image is that it's a vet bill, then you're clearly either A.) too blind to see what I've been talking about this whole time, or B.), the more likely option, still trolling. Look at the image again. She has $1,000. She wants to use it on some music thing, but she has to use it on her dog. Using basic common sense, one can surmise that her savings amount does not surpass $2,000. Otherwise, she could have her dog taken care of and her music thing.</quote> ok? and what does this have to do with anything?</quote> Lol, it's A and B with you.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 05/14/18 8:22:01 PM #149:	Muffinz0rz posted... TheVipaGTS posted... You seem to be making that argument. Why else post both those screenshots and imply the person was being contradictory. She talked about how she had to spend the little money she had on her animal, then a few weeks later got a drink with a friend...Im not sure what youre taking issue with... The post has nothing to do with how she spends her free time. The post is about how she seems to be missing the fact that she gets 3-4 months off work every year and her paycheck shows it. For example, in general, someone who works a 9-5 job year-round might make, let's say, 100,000/yr for ease of math. If that person decided to take 25% of the year off (three months) as unpaid vacation, that person should not be surprised when they only have 75,000 in their paycheck. The difference is, teachers have this vacation time built in, so it's not surprising when average teacher salaries are a lot lower than most full-time professions. averagejoel posted... Muffinz0rz posted... If all you took away from the first image is that it's a vet bill, then you're clearly either A.) too blind to see what I've been talking about this whole time, or B.), the more likely option, still trolling. Look at the image again. She has $1,000. She wants to use it on some music thing, but she has to use it on her dog. Using basic common sense, one can surmise that her savings amount does not surpass $2,000. Otherwise, she could have her dog taken care of and her music thing. ok? and what does this have to do with anything? Lol, it's A and B with you. TC, you didn't answer average (just threw a glib retort), and still haven't answered TheVipa - Maybe this is whether the disconnect a lot of us seem to be having with your logic. We GET that working MORE hours gives you MORE money But we DONT have evidence that she ISNT working over the summer (or being paid like some teachers) - do you have evidence of this? Note in her first image, she didn't say anything about salary. <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:901348872] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>TheVipaGTS posted...</cite> <quote>You seem to be making that argument. Why else post both those screenshots and imply the person was being contradictory. She talked about how she had to spend the little money she had on her animal, then a few weeks later got a drink with a friend...Im not sure what youre taking issue with...</quote> The post has nothing to do with how she spends her free time. The post is about how she seems to be missing the fact that she gets 3-4 months off work every year and her paycheck shows it. For example, in general, someone who works a 9-5 job year-round might make, let's say, 100,000/yr for ease of math. If that person decided to take 25% of the year off (three months) as unpaid vacation, that person should not be surprised when they only have 75,000 in their paycheck. The difference is, teachers have this vacation time built in, so it's not surprising when average teacher salaries are a lot lower than most full-time professions. <cite>averagejoel posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote>If all you took away from the first image is that it's a vet bill, then you're clearly either A.) too blind to see what I've been talking about this whole time, or B.), the more likely option, still trolling. Look at the image again. She has $1,000. She wants to use it on some music thing, but she has to use it on her dog. Using basic common sense, one can surmise that her savings amount does not surpass $2,000. Otherwise, she could have her dog taken care of and her music thing.</quote> ok? and what does this have to do with anything?</quote> Lol, it's A and B with you.</quote> TC, you didn't answer average (just threw a glib retort), and still haven't answered TheVipa - Maybe this is whether the disconnect a lot of us seem to be having with your logic. We GET that working MORE hours gives you MORE money But we DONT have evidence that she ISNT working over the summer (or being paid like some teachers) - do you have evidence of this? Note in her first image, she didn't say anything about salary.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
The Great Muta 22 05/14/18 8:24:11 PM #150:	My god the over analyst of some chick randomly posting on Facebook and taking every word so literally is ridiculous. The lack of social interaction from a lot of users here just bleeds through the screen in topics like these --- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXezjbuzh14 <cite>The Great Muta 22 posted [p:901348986] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote>My god the over analyst of some chick randomly posting on Facebook and taking every word so literally is ridiculous. The lack of social interaction from a lot of users here just bleeds through the screen in topics like these</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Muffinz0rz 05/14/18 10:55:57 PM #151:	Ruvan22 posted... TC, you didn't answer average I've answered him previously ITT; look at his posts, he's been trolling this whole time. Ruvan22 posted... still haven't answered TheVipa - I don't see a question --- Not removing this until Pat Benatar is in Super Smash Bros. (Started 8/31/2010) 2018 NFLB Summersim (2-4): https://imgur.com/7cjNtgQ <cite>Muffinz0rz posted [p:901357058] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote>TC, you didn't answer average</quote> I've answered him previously ITT; look at his posts, he's been trolling this whole time. <cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote>still haven't answered TheVipa - </quote> I don't see a question</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ruvan22 05/14/18 11:07:25 PM #152:	Muffinz0rz posted... Ruvan22 posted... TC, you didn't answer average I've answered him previously ITT; look at his posts, he's been trolling this whole time. Ruvan22 posted... still haven't answered TheVipa - I don't see a question Here is the question - (Repeated from my post since you didn't answer my rephrasing) We GET that working MORE hours gives you MORE money But we DONT have evidence that she ISNT working over the summer (or being paid like some teachers) - do you have evidence of this? <cite>Ruvan22 posted [p:901357660] in ITT: Mille... [t:76600080]...</cite> <quote><cite>Muffinz0rz posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote>TC, you didn't answer average</quote> I've answered him previously ITT; look at his posts, he's been trolling this whole time. <cite>Ruvan22 posted...</cite> <quote>still haven't answered TheVipa - </quote> I don't see a question</quote> Here is the question - (Repeated from my post since you didn't answer my rephrasing) We GET that working MORE hours gives you MORE money But we DONT have evidence that she ISNT working over the summer (or being paid like some teachers) - do you have evidence of this?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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