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Tmaster148 05/11/18 11:49:56 AM #102: |
Offworlder1 posted...
California already has strict gun control laws, all the people crying for more gun control must not know Cali already is on the lots of gun control band wagon. Let's not exclude the possiblity the gun wasn't obtained in California. Strict gun control doesn't do much on its own if nearby areas are lax. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 05/11/18 11:51:14 AM #103: |
MaverickXeo posted...
gunplagirl posted...Caution999 posted...utarefson posted...Another senseless and in my opinion, preventable tragedy. So did you know if we look at the US as a chain of states and have those, individually, be compared to other nations it isn't nearly as awful or lopsided in terms of population as you make it seem? And cultures can change. The global sweep of gay marriage over the last decade and a half was long overdue but happened. --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mist_Turnips 05/11/18 11:53:12 AM #104: |
Was there a "Gun free zone" sign in the area?
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ledbowman 05/11/18 11:53:21 AM #105: |
darkjedilink posted...
ledbowman posted...darkjedilink posted...Giant_Aspirin posted...darkjedilink posted...Squall28 posted...Liberals: *tries to find solution for gun violence* So you need to wait for it to happen first? Why defend the gun show loophole at all? --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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tremain07 05/11/18 11:53:40 AM #106: |
gunplagirl posted...
And cultures can change. The global sweep of gay marriage over the last decade and a half was long overdue but happened. It happened because of liberals and will be immediately be retracted after November and more hard conservatives win seats and Trumps packs in more hard conservative judges. --- I got nothing ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/11/18 11:54:22 AM #107: |
gunplagirl posted...
"If we outlaw guns people will get them anyway" Black market guns are often considerably cheaper than legal ones, yo - stolen AND no taxes. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/11/18 11:55:44 AM #108: |
ledbowman posted...
darkjedilink posted...ledbowman posted...darkjedilink posted...Giant_Aspirin posted...darkjedilink posted...Squall28 posted...Liberals: *tries to find solution for gun violence* Because it's not the cause. If a problem isn't caused by x, fixing x won't solve it. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 05/11/18 11:56:52 AM #109: |
DragonGirlYuki posted...
@_Goggalor_ got warned. Good riddance Now I remember why I have him tagged as irrational --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 05/11/18 11:56:57 AM #110: |
darkjedilink posted...
gunplagirl posted..."If we outlaw guns people will get them anyway" Okay but that's only because there's an excess of legal ones. Look at the black market prices of things that are unilaterally, completely illegal everywhere. --- Pew pew! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sayoria 05/11/18 11:57:12 AM #111: |
My argument must be right, since everyone keeps on the whole idea that banning or allowing guns is still the key observation from things like this. Best part of being a moderate? Thinking logically unbiased.
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TheVipaGTS 05/11/18 11:57:22 AM #112: |
darkjedilink posted...
Because it's not the cause. If a problem isn't caused by x, fixing x won't solve it. it doesn't mean can't do x. what do you think is so good about the Gun Show Loophole that it shouldn't be dealt with? --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ledbowman 05/11/18 11:58:31 AM #113: |
darkjedilink posted...
Because it's not the cause. If a problem isn't caused by x, fixing x won't solve it. So you need to wait for it to happen first? --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Offworlder1 05/11/18 12:01:25 PM #114: |
Doubt that you can bring in outside guns to california without them going through some kind of registration. Like I said California is as strict as it gets for gun control and outsiders cant just bring in any gun they want, Cali has to approve any gun you get.
If you buy a gun outside the state of Cali it must be sent to an FFL dealer in Cali, you cant buy in Navada and bring it in your car across the boarder. @Tmaster148 --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TightEnd 05/11/18 12:01:59 PM #115: |
So there was no actual shooting?
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Squall28 05/11/18 12:04:58 PM #117: |
utarefson posted...
Another senseless and in my opinion, preventable tragedy. Lol no. Liberals: Let's fix this! Conservatives: No. There's no equal fighting. It's conservatives blocking. --- If you're going through hell, keep going. -Winston Churchill ... Copied to Clipboard!
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biohazard1775 05/11/18 12:06:12 PM #118: |
Tmaster148 posted...
Offworlder1 posted...California already has strict gun control laws, all the people crying for more gun control must not know Cali already is on the lots of gun control band wagon. Stop this meme. I live in Nevada and whenever a Californian comes into a gun shop and they tell him to screw off the moment they find out where he is from. --- http://i.imgur.com/PUlTENu.png Iron Within, Iron Without ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 05/11/18 12:06:14 PM #119: |
@Offworlder1 posted...
Doubt that you can bring in outside guns to california without them going through some kind of registration. Like I said California is as strict as it gets for gun control and outsiders cant just bring in any gun they want, Cali has to approve any gun you get. Do they actually check people for guns? The few times I've been there coming from Oregon they had border guards checking if you had fruit. --- ~Yuki~ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SolaFide 05/11/18 12:06:52 PM #120: |
California's gun control laws, the most stringent in the nation, sure did do a lot of good today.
Squall28 posted... utarefson posted...Another senseless and in my opinion, preventable tragedy. You should probably change your signature since you dislike conservatism and Winston Churchill is one of the greatest conservative statesmen of all time. --- Our wisdom, insofar as it ought to be deemed true and solid wisdom, consists almost entirely of two parts: the knowledge of God and of ourselves. --John Calvin ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Offworlder1 05/11/18 12:06:55 PM #121: |
There is literally nothing to fix though, California is as strict as it gets for guns yet the shooting still happened.
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Scorsese2002 05/11/18 12:07:15 PM #122: |
TightEnd posted...
So there was no actual shooting? 1 wounded, 1 in custody after shooting at Palmdale's Highland High School http://abc7.com/3459983/ A teenage boy was wounded and a suspect was detained Friday morning in a shooting at Highland High School in Palmdale. The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Department confirmed that one gunshot victim was transported to a hospital after the incident. Eyewitness News has learned that patient is a 17-year old boy who was shot through the forearm. The suspect's identity was not immediately released. Dare I say not violent enough for national news to cover, unfortunately --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FifthBeethoven 05/11/18 12:09:41 PM #124: |
Interesting how a topic with a shooting with only one person hurt no deaths gets more posts than one with 7 deaths in Australia on CE. Guess it shows how important American news is.
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Offworlder1 05/11/18 12:10:45 PM #125: |
I think they are suppose to ask you if your transporting a firearm, not sure but I do know no California resident can go out of state, buy a gun and then drive over the boarder with it.
In 2015 California made the new law of you buy out of state it must be sent to a Cali FFL dealer period. @DragonGirlYuki --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 05/11/18 12:15:12 PM #126: |
They never asked me if I had guns. Then again I have Canadian plates so they probably don't expect guns so they ask the standard do you have fruits questions.
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Offworlder1 05/11/18 12:17:58 PM #127: |
Yeah the plates is why, if you were then youd be arrested for breaking the law as your plates say your a resident of California.
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DragonGirlYuki 05/11/18 12:21:30 PM #128: |
California seems to be the only state I have seen to have their own border patrol. It is kinda weird. I don't recall an outgoing border though. They don't care if you are leaving the state.
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Pitbuller_26 05/11/18 12:27:50 PM #129: |
Scorsese2002 posted...
TightEnd posted...So there was no actual shooting? Only 1 injury and no deaths is almost miraculous. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Offworlder1 05/11/18 12:30:07 PM #130: |
Nope they only care about who comes into the state, they dont want people bringing certain things in.
A lot of people are escaping/fleeing California though for a variety of reasons as the place is bullshit expensive to live, the laws are garbage, and the police are insane. I feel bad for people who live there cause of how strict gun laws are, how they dont require people with HIV/AIDs to say they have it before donating blood, and how many bad laws actually get created there. @DragonGirlYuki --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 05/11/18 12:31:48 PM #131: |
Offworlder1 posted...
I feel bad for people who live there cause of how strict gun laws are, how they dont require people with HIV/AIDs to say they have it before donating blood, and how many bad laws actually get created there. you really need to not base your opinion on things you read on the internet. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 05/11/18 12:31:51 PM #132: |
Time to say guns aren't to blame then shrug our shoulders and move on without actually offering any solutions besides more guns to shoot at these shooters.
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thecoolgu 05/11/18 12:32:02 PM #133: |
Here's the thing, if we banned guns, this country would have significantly more stabbings than countries where knives are also legal.
Why? Because people are making fun of each so often for the stupidest things in this country. I could go on, but you know what I'm talking about. People are mentally insecure because everybody's at each other's throats all the time for no reason, online and offline. Bottom Line: Banning guns wouldn't lower the level of overall violence in this country. --- This signature only exists because my post would be eccentric without it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DragonGirlYuki 05/11/18 12:35:04 PM #134: |
With them being a high tax area their roads are also pretty bad. Like Eastern Canada bad. California doesn't even get snowly winters that ruin roads like in the east.
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TheVipaGTS 05/11/18 12:35:26 PM #135: |
thecoolgu posted...
Here's the thing, if we banned guns, this country would have significantly more stabbings than countries where knives are also legal. I'll take mass stabbings over mass shootings any day. A gun can kill a dozen people in a few seconds. A dude with a knife won't have nearly the same "success" rate and its significantly easier to fight back against a dude with a knife than one with a gun... I say that as someone doesn't want to ban guns. I just think the "people will just stab people!" argument is kind of dumb... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/11/18 12:35:34 PM #136: |
ledbowman posted...
darkjedilink posted...Because it's not the cause. If a problem isn't caused by x, fixing x won't solve it. Actually, yeah. If you concede the point that it doesn't actually result in gun deaths now, why should we do the work and spend the money to curb it? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 05/11/18 12:35:57 PM #137: |
thecoolgu posted...
Here's the thing, if we banned guns, this country would have significantly more stabbings than countries where knives are also legal. Mass stabbings would be more preferable than mass shootings. Simply because it takes far more effort to stab someone to death than shooting them. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/11/18 12:36:39 PM #138: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
thecoolgu posted...Here's the thing, if we banned guns, this country would have significantly more stabbings than countries where knives are also legal. Is that why more Londoners have been killed in knife attacs than Americans have been killed in mass shootings so far this year? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Mr_Biscuit 05/11/18 12:37:33 PM #139: |
Liberals: lets ban or limit guns
Conservatives: that wont work Liberals: ok whats your idea Conservatives: ...MAGA Guys like DarkJediLink always have 10,000 reasons gun laws dont reduce gun violence, which would be all well and good if they had any counterproposal that they pushed for. Reality is, they dont care enough to try anything. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RE_expert44 05/11/18 12:39:19 PM #140: |
Tell me again, what are the gun laws in cali like? Can anyone just go get a gun easily?
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darkjedilink 05/11/18 12:39:41 PM #141: |
Mr_Biscuit posted...
Liberals: lets ban or limit guns --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Offworlder1 05/11/18 12:39:54 PM #142: |
@darkjedilink
Dont forget the people who use trucks, cars, and bombs this past year to kill shit loads of people. Guns are not the only weapon of mass murder. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 05/11/18 12:39:59 PM #143: |
RE_expert44 posted...
Tell me again, what are the gun laws in cali like? Can anyone just go get a gun easily? Nope. Not at all. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thecoolgu 05/11/18 12:40:03 PM #144: |
I am just pointing out an underlying issue with this country.
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ledbowman 05/11/18 12:40:49 PM #145: |
darkjedilink posted...
ledbowman posted...darkjedilink posted...Because it's not the cause. If a problem isn't caused by x, fixing x won't solve it. So it doesn't result in gun deaths in the future? --- I wish we all waved ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kill_Marxism 05/11/18 12:41:14 PM #146: |
Scorsese2002 posted...
TightEnd posted...So there was no actual shooting? Yup, gang shit most likely. I went to littlerock high school, not far from highland. Bunch of no good thugs and Cholos out there. Most likely that's what this was, but we should wait for news.... Similar shit happened at littlerock. Never a shooting while I was there, but students brought knives, they had "race riots" between the blacks and the hispanics... bunch of stupid dumbasses... ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheVipaGTS 05/11/18 12:42:03 PM #147: |
thecoolgu posted...
I am just pointing out an underlying issue with this country. i completely agree that violence won't stop. but an argument against better control for a tool DESIGNED to be a violent weapon should never be "but it won't stop violence overall"...People use trucks to kill people, yes....but we still have fairly strong regulations when it comes to owning and operating a truck. Yes, some people don't follow those rules, some people steal cars, some people will go out of their way to find a way....its not an argument AGAINST having those laws, though... --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Offworlder1 05/11/18 12:42:36 PM #148: |
California gun laws failing to stop the shooting in California shows how uneffective strict gun comtrol laws are.
When the current laws that are strict as hell dont do anything to stop people its time to try something else to end school shootings. --- "Always two there are, a master and an apprentice" 3DS FC: 1564 - 7512 - 1815 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Nomadic View 05/11/18 12:42:53 PM #149: |
darkjedilink posted...
Mr_Biscuit posted...Liberals: lets ban or limit guns --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 05/11/18 12:43:48 PM #150: |
thecoolgu posted...
I am just pointing out an underlying issue with this country. We can also restrict access to guns as well as work towards improving what you said. It makes little sense to let people who are going to harm others get access to guns. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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legendarylemur 05/11/18 12:44:08 PM #151: |
Freedom is nice until somebody abuses it, and now we all can't have any fun. Ban all guns
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Patchwork 05/11/18 12:44:54 PM #152: |
legendarylemur posted...
Freedom is nice until somebody abuses it, and now we all can't have any fun. Ban all guns No. --- The mind is its own place, and in itself Can make a heav'n of hell, a hell of heav'n. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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