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Konflikt 05/12/18 5:02:19 PM #204: |
cjsdowg posted...
Banjo2553 posted...To be fair it was probably illegal to grill in the park. I don't think that was his intention ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 05/12/18 5:08:18 PM #205: |
Konflikt posted...
This women throw racial slurs and called the police since a black person was using charcoal in at worse a propane area. Hank Hill would not even do that. This is like calling the police on someone for not cleaning the Smith Machine when they are done. --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Konflikt 05/12/18 5:14:56 PM #206: |
I know the woman was racist, I'm just saying I don't think Banjo was trying to do that
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ImTheMacheteGuy 05/12/18 5:29:02 PM #207: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...So if the law isn't subjective in the this park case, why did the cops choose not to "enforce" it? Why did they just peace out? It sounded like the lunatic was trying awfully hard to make sure law enforcement would enforce the law. Yet, the cops didn't do anything. So why in your opinion did the cop not do anything? What was their motivation for not siding with the lunatic? Do you agree with their decision or should they have taken action? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 05/12/18 5:53:44 PM #208: |
It i funny that the big lady LIED to the police which is a CRIME. And the people defending her don't care.
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SomeGuyUO 05/12/18 9:03:30 PM #209: |
So why didn't the lady just give the card back?
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ShotOJameson 05/12/18 9:07:58 PM #210: |
she just mad that no one ever invites her to the bbq so she gotta ruin it for everyone else. lame
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TheVipaGTS 05/12/18 9:11:29 PM #211: |
ShotOJameson posted...
she just mad that no one ever invites her to the bbq so she gotta ruin it for everyone else. lame she definitely gives off a "stick in the ass" type of vibe. just seems like an overall unpleasant person. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ModLogic 05/12/18 9:17:05 PM #212: |
AlphaBoy posted...
Terra-enforcer posted...HypnoCoosh posted...You obviously realize you have no argument. lmfao i wouldn't pay that terra guy any mind. his gimmick is to make dumb posts then have people hand his ass to him. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Funbazooka 05/12/18 9:55:13 PM #213: |
TheVipaGTS posted...
ShotOJameson posted...she just mad that no one ever invites her to the bbq so she gotta ruin it for everyone else. lame She's stubborn but at least she's not unhinged like the one filming her and harassing her for 25 min straight. --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Konflikt 05/12/18 9:56:52 PM #214: |
Funbazooka posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...ShotOJameson posted...she just mad that no one ever invites her to the bbq so she gotta ruin it for everyone else. lame Defending racists too Lmao --- You haven't set a signature for the message boards yet ... Copied to Clipboard!
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cjsdowg 05/12/18 10:17:09 PM #215: |
Funbazooka posted...
This one spent 2 hours harassing people for BBQ in what she felt was the wrong part of the park, and lied to the police about what happen, and threw out racial slurs. Dude really . --- Bender: Well, everybody, I just saved a turtle. What have you done with your lives? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Re-iNcarnated 05/12/18 10:19:57 PM #216: |
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Funbazooka 05/12/18 10:32:45 PM #217: |
cjsdowg posted...
Funbazooka posted... I doubt she ever called them a racial slur considering that she's never once accused of it in the video. That would have been brought up in the footage. The woman recording interviews the black guy grilling (friends or family standing by), interviews some black bystanders who witnessed it before she got there. None of them mention racial slurs. Nobody. It's bullshit. And at the 4:55 min mark, the woman recording starts grabbing at the woman on the phone. Am I the only one who watched this? --- "Don't trade your authenticity for approval." -Kanye West ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ExtremeLuchador 05/13/18 10:12:19 AM #218: |
Did the woman really wait around 3 hours for the cops over a charcoal grill?
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CruelBuffalo 05/14/18 1:57:57 PM #219: |
People in oakland had a huge cookout to protest this crazy lady
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TheoryzC 05/15/18 6:02:39 AM #220: |
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AlabamaLove 05/15/18 11:20:21 AM #221: |
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AlabamaLove 05/15/18 11:25:54 AM #222: |
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Dustin1280 05/15/18 11:27:27 AM #223: |
This topic can be summed as "idiot calls the cop on a family barbecuing with charcoal, when cops do nothing the family that got the cops called on them harass the idiot."
Even if she WAS racist the cops didn't do anything to the family so I don't see the problem here other the the lady was a bitch. You could also sum it up as bitch does something bitchy and gets upset when people turn on her. There is no injustice here at all, just a bitch being a bitch. Stop trying to make everything about race, all it does is further the divide. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/15/18 12:00:10 PM #224: |
It would be a lot easier to not make everything about race if soooooo much stuff wasn't about race though
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FrisbeeDude 05/15/18 12:01:26 PM #225: |
I love how that bitch is now a meme. Get rekt
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Dustin1280 05/15/18 12:02:28 PM #226: |
eston posted...
It would be a lot easier to not make everything about race if soooooo much stuff wasn't about race though All races have racists. When the racists choose to be assholes, that makes them assholes. As long as the government maintain proper peace (as was done in this example) there is NO reason race should have even been nor needed to be brought up. This was the case of a bitch being and bitch and everyone turning on her, that is all. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/15/18 12:04:42 PM #227: |
Dustin1280 posted...
eston posted...It would be a lot easier to not make everything about race if soooooo much stuff wasn't about race though Disregarding the racial subtext does not mean it doesn't exist. I agree that this situation was ultimately handled well by the authorities. Race is being brought up because it appears to be relevant as to why this woman went so far out of her way to try and shut them down. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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apocalyptic_4 05/15/18 12:06:31 PM #228: |
Dustin1280 posted...
This topic can be summed as "idiot calls the cop on a family barbecuing with charcoal, when cops do nothing the family that got the cops called on them harass the idiot." When you start shit expect shit to be handed to you. What do these people expect to happen when they waste officers time with this nonsense. These people deserve to be exposed. --- PSN: Adrian396 XBL: Prime Legacy Nintendo ID: Apocalypse ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/15/18 12:06:36 PM #229: |
eston posted...
Dustin1280 posted...eston posted...It would be a lot easier to not make everything about race if soooooo much stuff wasn't about race though Racists (of all colors) exists, the sky is blue, the grass is green. These are all things that are known. The core issue is she was a bitch (regardless of her reasoning) and it was resolved properly by authorities. If the races were reversed, this wouldn't even have made the news because it's just a bitch being a bitch. Making a mountain out of a molehill (in this particular case) only furthers the divide between the races. Pick your battles when they actually mean something, don't scream RACIST at every opportunity. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/15/18 12:10:40 PM #230: |
Dustin1280 posted...
eston posted...Dustin1280 posted...eston posted...It would be a lot easier to not make everything about race if soooooo much stuff wasn't about race though Or, alternatively, we can discuss incidents like this and come to a greater understanding about how modern racism plays out. A lot of white people seem to think this sort of thing doesn't happen or isn't an issue. It's important to shine a light on it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/15/18 12:13:28 PM #231: |
eston posted...
Dustin1280 posted...eston posted...Dustin1280 posted...eston posted...It would be a lot easier to not make everything about race if soooooo much stuff wasn't about race though You mean people being dicks? Because that is what happened here. Crying racism every time a white person is a dick to a black person is not conducive to fixing the divide nor is it true every time such a thing happens. Proclaiming racism when an ACTUAL injustice happens is 100% reasonable, but for something like this it only serves to add fuel to the fire and it DEFINITELY won't help convince the people that think this type of thing isn't an issue, it will only prove their point in their mind. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 05/15/18 12:14:55 PM #232: |
This meme is getting old
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eston 05/15/18 12:17:20 PM #233: |
Again, ignoring the racial subtext does not mean it doesn't exist. And being so dismissive of it really is quite counterproductive.
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Dustin1280 05/15/18 12:21:03 PM #234: |
eston posted...
Again, ignoring the racial subtext does not mean it doesn't exist. And being so dismissive of it really is quite counterproductive. Is there? Or was this person just a bitch? Maybe she wasn't racist at all and she would have done the same thing to ANY family using a charcoal grill or maybe she was a racist that hates all black people. It doesn't change the fact that she was a bitch regardless of the racial subtext. I'm dismissing the racial subtext because it isn't important here, there wasn't any injustice. Making a big deal about HOW people are dicks doesn't help those people NOT be dicks. I would 100% agree if the cops booked the family grilling or something but that didn't happen here and dwelling on the racial subtext of something that is minor compared to the bigger issues only makes things worse. Why do you think some people think black people are all "victims" it's because of things like this and proving their point just solidifies their thoughts on the matter. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/15/18 12:26:01 PM #235: |
Dustin1280 posted...
I'm dismissing the racial subtext because it isn't important here I disagree Dustin1280 posted... Making a big deal about HOW people are dicks doesn't help those people NOT be dicks. And disagree with this as well And frankly I'm not sure why you think recognizing everyday racism causes a divide. There already is a divide. It's why we have everyday racism. People dismissing it out of pocket certainly isn't helping. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 05/15/18 12:26:40 PM #236: |
What I'm seeing here is that the left has no problem with the government forcing you to pay for other people's healthcare or college and confiscating your firearms, but heaven forbid a park has a rule against charcoal grills and that black people have to follow that rule like everyone else.
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Dustin1280 05/15/18 12:27:31 PM #237: |
eston posted...
Dustin1280 posted...I'm dismissing the racial subtext because it isn't important here And proclaiming racism every time a white person is mean to a black person isn't helping either. Better to focus on the REAL issues where there are truly injustices happening to other races not things where dicks are being dicks and recognizing that the dick MIGHT have been a racist doesn't help anything. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/15/18 12:31:57 PM #238: |
Dustin1280 posted...
And proclaiming racism every time a white person is mean to a black person isn't helping either. Feel free to ignore them if that's what you want to do. This type of hand-waving is why racism still thrives in America. Because people take the Morgan Freeman route of thinking a problem will go away if you simply don't talk about it. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_Goggalor_ 05/15/18 12:33:01 PM #239: |
Nothing racist about wanting everyone to follow the rules.
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Dustin1280 05/15/18 12:33:45 PM #240: |
eston posted...
Dustin1280 posted...And proclaiming racism every time a white person is mean to a black person isn't helping either. That is not what I am saying at all. I am saying CHOOSE your battles, when a person is in a position of power did something that could have been racially motivated, THAT's an issue worth fighting and talking about. When a dick acted like a dick and MAY or may not have been a racist, but the people in power ignored the dicks claim. That is NOT worth talking about, it simply conflates the issues and makes you seem like you are going to scream racism anytime a white person is mean to a black person. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 05/15/18 12:35:26 PM #241: |
eston posted...
This type of hand-waving is why racism still thrives in America That's such bullshit. You just see what you want to see. This wasn't about skin color. This was about someone breaking the rules and another person so uptight and crazy they couldn't just walk away. Pro-tip: People can suck without it being about skin color. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/15/18 12:36:47 PM #242: |
I think casual racism is very much worth talking about. Social attitudes are important. Right now this woman is being held up as an example of how not to act. Everyone is talking about it, and that is something that influences the greater culture.
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FrisbeeDude 05/15/18 12:39:01 PM #243: |
Longtime Oakland residents are being pushed out because of gentrification and ol unseasoned chicken over there has become the poster child for it.
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Dustin1280 05/15/18 12:39:17 PM #244: |
eston posted...
I think casual racism is very much worth talking about. Social attitudes are important. Right now this woman is being held up as an example of how not to act. Everyone is talking about it, and that is something that influences the greater culture. You are calling her a racist because she was white and acted like a bitch to a black family. It's possible she would have call the cops on ANY family using a charcoal grill perhaps she was just a bitch, not necessarily a racist bitch. Again something like this just makes the "perpetual victim" stereotype look more and more true every time it happens. Which does the EXACT opposite of what you claim you are fighting for. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/15/18 12:42:39 PM #245: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
eston posted...This type of hand-waving is why racism still thrives in America I agree that people can suck without it being about skin color, but as I said earlier ignoring the racial subtext does not mean that it doesn't exist. Admittedly I can't prove she was being racist. However, most people would not take things as far as she did just to randomly be a jerk for no reason. I think it's fair to assume there was a reason she had such contempt for this particular group, and I don't think it's because she's a stickler for proper bbqs placement. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 05/15/18 12:42:58 PM #246: |
Dustin1280 posted...
It's possible she would have call the cops on ANY family using a charcoal grill perhaps she was just a b****, not necessarily a racist b****. This is exactly the point. But he won't admit it because in his mind everything is about skin color. When you see the world through glasses like that you should really look in the mirror and as yourself "who is the real racist"? --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 05/15/18 12:43:52 PM #247: |
eston posted...
most people would not take things as far as she did just to randomly be a jerk for no reason This means literally nothing. You're trying to make it about race. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/15/18 12:44:03 PM #248: |
Dustin1280 posted...
eston posted...I think casual racism is very much worth talking about. Social attitudes are important. Right now this woman is being held up as an example of how not to act. Everyone is talking about it, and that is something that influences the greater culture. So your approach is to entirely dismiss any discussion of the racial dynamics here because you've already made up your mind --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/15/18 12:46:20 PM #249: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
eston posted...most people would not take things as far as she did just to randomly be a jerk for no reason That's because I believe it was about race, and what I'm saying in the part you quoted is that I think she went way above and beyond specifically because she is racist --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dustin1280 05/15/18 12:46:55 PM #250: |
eston posted...
Dustin1280 posted...eston posted...I think casual racism is very much worth talking about. Social attitudes are important. Right now this woman is being held up as an example of how not to act. Everyone is talking about it, and that is something that influences the greater culture. Nope you completely missed my point yet again. My point is to not make a big deal about "might be racists" unless they are in a position of power and are directly impacting said race. Assuming anytime a white person is mean to a black person is racist, which is EXACTLY what you have done here is not conducive to solving the issues you claim to be fighting for. Dicks exist, that doesn't mean all dicks are racists and assuming as such makes you look like a "perpetual victim." Have a discussion when a person in power "might be a racist," not when some random person who was mean to some other person "might be a racist" even more so when the cops got involved and took the side of the "not dick." Believe it or not, "big dicks" exist, stop automatically jumping to racism when a "big dick" makes an appearance, unless of course said "big dick" is in a position of power and could potentially be causing harm to said race. --- RIP: Canuklehead, Karma: 1369 // RIP: Gen_Lee_Enfield, Karma: 1731 // RIP: Orlando of the Axe, Karma: 1642 // RIP nayr626 Karma: 4395 --They delivered! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DifferentialEquation 05/15/18 12:50:49 PM #251: |
HypnoCoosh posted...
Dustin1280 posted...It's possible she would have call the cops on ANY family using a charcoal grill perhaps she was just a b****, not necessarily a racist b****. Remember when it used to be considered racist for there to be different sets of rules for white people and black people? Now, it apparently is racist to think that black people should follow the same rules as everyone else. How progressive. --- There's no business to be taxed. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HypnoCoosh 05/15/18 12:51:15 PM #252: |
eston posted...
That's because I believe it was about race Exactly. --- We make men without chests and expect from them virtue and enterprise. We laugh at honor and are shocked to find traitors in our midst. - C.S. Lewis ... Copied to Clipboard!
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eston 05/15/18 12:53:21 PM #253: |
Dustin1280 posted...
eston posted...Dustin1280 posted...eston posted...I think casual racism is very much worth talking about. Social attitudes are important. Right now this woman is being held up as an example of how not to act. Everyone is talking about it, and that is something that influences the greater culture. I get your point, I just disagree with it. You and I are coming to different conclusions about why this woman acted the way she did and that's fine. I still think that talking about racism in society is very important, and only addressing it when a person in a position of power does something racist is missing a lot of what makes racism tick. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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