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Vol2tex
05/09/18 11:21:03 AM
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzmQKob4zB8" data-time="&start=189


It looks worse than I remembered as a kid. It's interesting that the art style itself was pretty good:

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They couldn't find a better animation studio?

Compare the animation to this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=95Ep29OGB9I" data-time="&start=55

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Wedge Antilles
05/09/18 11:22:23 AM
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Inb4 Rogues ass shot
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Veggeta X
05/09/18 11:24:17 AM
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Wedge Antilles posted...
Inb4 Rogues ass shot

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EvalAngell
05/09/18 11:25:15 AM
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nah it was good for it's time.
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Questionmarktarius
05/09/18 11:26:42 AM
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He-Man is on Netflix. Go watch a couple episodes, right now.
Then, you'll have a better appreciation for X-Men's animation.
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Vol2tex
05/09/18 11:28:19 AM
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Spooking posted...
It looks fine to me.


In this video, they actually reused animation from 40 seconds prior (2:38). Also, look at her mouth and face at 3:36.

In general though, it wasn't the most fluid animation.
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Darkrobotisback
05/09/18 11:28:51 AM
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The animation always did look like anime-ish to me...
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EvalAngell
05/09/18 11:31:09 AM
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Spider-Man TAS had the same issues with recycling animations. But the storylines and cast of characters made up for it.
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CW_McGraw
05/09/18 11:35:02 AM
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They blew their budget on the greatest theme music ever composed.
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Questionmarktarius
05/09/18 11:36:12 AM
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CW_McGraw posted...
They blew their budget on the greatest theme music ever composed.

Lies!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o2Z1yLO9C-Q" data-time="
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Darkrobotisback
05/09/18 11:38:44 AM
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Captain Planet though
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mcpwnia
05/09/18 11:41:33 AM
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EvalAngell posted...
nah it was good for it's time.

what? No it wasn't
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Vol2tex
05/09/18 11:42:51 AM
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AlecSkorpio
05/09/18 11:44:17 AM
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Tyranthraxus
05/09/18 11:45:22 AM
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It did have bad animation but it was still a pretty good show.

They should have gotten the Japanese to do the whole show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rSw4Xl5qfs" data-time="

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EvalAngell
05/09/18 11:46:14 AM
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mcpwnia posted...
EvalAngell posted...
nah it was good for it's time.

what? No it wasn't


what hand drawn American cartoon was better at the time?
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Makeveli_lives
05/09/18 11:47:05 AM
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Vol2tex posted...
It was also very jittery:

https://78.media.tumblr.com/1b2174a09bd138b22b6d09c0463556d2/tumblr_o83mtq4rMd1qbhl1yo1_1280.gif

That's because it was so detailed. It's far easier to animate something with less detail, the less the better. Look at X-Men Evolution for comparison

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSfl9qc5TFc" data-time="

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Tyranthraxus
05/09/18 11:48:17 AM
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EvalAngell posted...
mcpwnia posted...
EvalAngell posted...
nah it was good for it's time.

what? No it wasn't


what hand drawn American cartoon was better at the time?


Basically almost all of them. There's like Black and white shit with better animation.
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yusiko
05/09/18 11:49:07 AM
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gambit was sexy
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mcpwnia
05/09/18 11:49:19 AM
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EvalAngell posted...
mcpwnia posted...
EvalAngell posted...
nah it was good for it's time.

what? No it wasn't


what hand drawn American cartoon was better at the time?

Animaniacs, Batman, Superman, damn near everything
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Vol2tex
05/09/18 11:49:31 AM
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EvalAngell posted...
mcpwnia posted...
EvalAngell posted...
nah it was good for it's time.

what? No it wasn't


what hand drawn American cartoon was better at the time?


Batman TAS also premiered the same year as X-Men:

https://78.media.tumblr.com/cfa7b8695b7de4a2a924c01e91ed56f0/tumblr_p6y1o2vHhB1wrzrfdo7_r1_540.gif

https://78.media.tumblr.com/3f762201849887ec312bae66d1e6b853/tumblr_p850tyYbBn1xp88owo1_500.gif

Looks more fluid to me.
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Esrac
05/09/18 11:50:17 AM
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Even little kid me in the 90s could tell the animation was weak in that show.
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Vol2tex
05/09/18 11:54:06 AM
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EvalAngell
05/09/18 11:54:53 AM
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mcpwnia posted...
EvalAngell posted...
mcpwnia posted...
EvalAngell posted...
nah it was good for it's time.

what? No it wasn't


what hand drawn American cartoon was better at the time?

Animaniacs, Batman, Superman, damn near everything


I'll give you Batman TAS and Superman but Animaniacs was just as choppy as X-Men.
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Bringit
05/09/18 11:57:18 AM
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As other people have said, it's because frame by frame it was so detailed.

I mean that art is practically the characters straight out of the comic book panels. It's about as true to their likenesses as you can get.

That said, it's definitely jarring to go back to when you're used to smoother animation.
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Vol2tex
05/09/18 11:58:04 AM
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Bringit posted...
As other people have said, it's because frame by frame it was so detailed.

I mean that art is practically the characters straight out of the comic book panels. It's about as true to their likenesses as you can get.

That said, it's definitely jarring to go back to when you're used to smoother animation.


How did Pryde of the X-Men do it smoothly?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S2T2O0882jo" data-time="&start=303

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Esrac
05/09/18 12:00:01 PM
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EvalAngell posted...
mcpwnia posted...
EvalAngell posted...
mcpwnia posted...
EvalAngell posted...
nah it was good for it's time.

what? No it wasn't


what hand drawn American cartoon was better at the time?

Animaniacs, Batman, Superman, damn near everything


I'll give you Batman TAS and Superman but Animaniacs was just as choppy as X-Men.


No.
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ledbowman
05/09/18 12:02:57 PM
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Yeah how do people watch this crap. Spider-Man was even worse.
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Bringit
05/09/18 12:03:43 PM
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Vol2tex posted...
How did Pryde of the X-Men do it smoothly?

Have absolutely no idea but it was a single episode pilot, maybe it had more money put into it than if it went to full series or they went with a cheaper studio for TAS?

I'm not saying TAS couldn't have been smoother, just that it would have cost way more than they were probably willing to spend.
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Questionmarktarius
05/09/18 12:04:43 PM
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ledbowman posted...
Yeah how do people watch this crap. Spider-Man was even worse.

It takes quite a bit of animation laziness for kids to care.

I mean, like, Clutch Cargo bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MHg1-mpcUY" data-time="
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CyricZ
05/09/18 12:06:29 PM
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Oh yeah, it's a jank-fest. I'll never consider anyone "wrong" for liking X-Men over, say, Batman:TAS, but I firmly believe such opinions are made through rose-colored glasses.

It is my personal opinion that Batman still holds up, and that has a great deal to do with its stylistic approach.
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Jiek_Fafn
05/09/18 12:10:33 PM
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The final season was even worse. Everyone moved very strangely. It's at least watchable in the earlier seasons.

Also, time was that shows outright didn't give a shit how things looked. Transformers and Muppet Babies would leave very obvious mistakes. Like Kermits mouth would be orange for like 10 seconds because they screwed up and wouldn't bother to fix it. Kids didn't care
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Vol2tex
05/09/18 12:10:37 PM
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Questionmarktarius
05/09/18 12:12:21 PM
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BMXJouster
05/09/18 12:29:19 PM
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Vol2tex posted...
How did Pryde of the X-Men do it smoothly?

Cause Pryde of the X-Men was animated by Toei.
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Esrac
05/09/18 12:30:21 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
ledbowman posted...
Yeah how do people watch this crap. Spider-Man was even worse.

It takes quite a bit of animation laziness for kids to care.

I mean, like, Clutch Cargo bad.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6MHg1-mpcUY" data-time="


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Vol2tex
05/09/18 1:48:38 PM
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SSJ2GrimReaper
05/09/18 1:49:52 PM
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Every 90s marvel cartoon has aged badly
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Delta_Force
05/09/18 2:02:55 PM
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I agree with you're original statement but...


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Vol2tex
05/09/18 2:21:28 PM
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Delta_Force posted...
I agree with you're original statement but...



Haha!
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bobbysjoby
05/09/18 2:28:43 PM
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lol look at all the detail on the characters in the animated series, then look at how bland and rushed it looks in the newer series posted. 90s art >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern

same goes for batman, spiderman, dragon ball, and even cartoon network shows like johnny bravo.
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Vol2tex
05/09/18 6:02:16 PM
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bobbysjoby posted...
lol look at all the detail on the characters in the animated series, then look at how bland and rushed it looks in the newer series posted. 90s art >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> modern

same goes for batman, spiderman, dragon ball, and even cartoon network shows like johnny bravo.


I haven't seen too much modern TV animation, but many of the shows were gorgeous back in the 90s.
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lilORANG
05/09/18 6:06:34 PM
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yeah, the show is legit terrible. Evolution is much better.
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Vol2tex
05/09/18 7:14:17 PM
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The storylines were good and the art style was good, it's just the actual animation that was underwhelming.
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ExtremeLuchador
05/09/18 8:44:39 PM
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1990s shows existed just to sell toys.
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BeautifulBlaze
05/09/18 8:55:24 PM
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Vol2tex posted...
EvalAngell posted...
mcpwnia posted...
EvalAngell posted...
nah it was good for it's time.

what? No it wasn't


what hand drawn American cartoon was better at the time?


Batman TAS also premiered the same year as X-Men:

https://78.media.tumblr.com/cfa7b8695b7de4a2a924c01e91ed56f0/tumblr_p6y1o2vHhB1wrzrfdo7_r1_540.gif

https://78.media.tumblr.com/3f762201849887ec312bae66d1e6b853/tumblr_p850tyYbBn1xp88owo1_500.gif

Looks more fluid to me.

Vol2tex posted...
https://78.media.tumblr.com/d63a2c43f2c0a32b705e4f1bdad94d47/tumblr_ojs2npLaN81vr03dxo1_500.gif


Wow you can really tell when American cartoons are animated by Japanese studios.
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Tyranthraxus
05/09/18 9:48:05 PM
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BeautifulBlaze posted...
Wow you can really tell when American cartoons are animated by Japanese studios.

DC TAS is basically all Bruce Timm
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Jagr_68
05/09/18 10:07:59 PM
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Tyranthraxus posted...
It did have bad animation but it was still a pretty good show.

They should have gotten the Japanese to do the whole show.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rSw4Xl5qfs" data-time="


WTF this looks incredible! One could not even tell that this is for a cartoon because it's all executed like an intro to a PS1 fighting game.
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