Current Events > So... DID oj simpson kill his wife? Watched American Crime Story the oj story.

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The show seems to make it almost clear cut that he did kill his wife. And the way they were killed was rather barbaric, though all murder is barbaric.
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Basically everything I've seen has in not so subtle ways, said he killed his wife. Taking that, and interviews he's given, yeah, he killed his wife, OR, he was directly responsible for his wife's death.

It's entirely possible that he wasn't the only perpetrator of this double homicide.

But, in spite of the evidence, and despite the quality of his trial, he was found not guilty.
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Probably, yeah.

Does everyone think so?
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I read some compelling evidence that his son may have done it.

But yeah, probably OJ.
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Questionmarktarius posted...

Probably, yeah.

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In the end, it doesn't really matter.
OJ went to prison for several years anyway for stealing a football or something, and anything he does worth any value will be confiscated by Fred Goldman until both of them are dead.

If he was innocent why did he right that book?

Questionmarktarius posted...

In the end, it doesn't really matter.
OJ went to prison for several years anyway for stealing a football or something, and anything he does worth any value will be confiscated by Fred Goldman until both of them are dead.

He stole a highly-valued football while armed, with intent of committing violence.
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JimmyReimjob posted...

But, in spite of the evidence, and despite the quality of his trial, he was found not guilty.

Because of race.
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But the glove didn't fit!
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Probably. The whole glove fiasco and Mark Furhman being an insanely racist piece of shit was probably what killed the case for the prosecution though.
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UnfairRepresent posted...

But the glove didn't fit!

Of course it didn't - it's a blood-soaked leather glove sitting in a vault for years, attempting to be worn by a man whos hand had swollen due to poor health.
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darkjedilink posted...

Questionmarktarius posted...

In the end, it doesn't really matter.
OJ went to prison for several years anyway for stealing a football or something, and anything he does worth any value will be confiscated by Fred Goldman until both of them are dead.

He stole a highly-valued football while armed, with intent of committing violence.

The bigger question is, did Fred Goldman get the football?

Of course he did, the man basically admitted it in detail during a interview and "wrote" a good damn book about it
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darkjedilink posted...

UnfairRepresent posted...

But the glove didn't fit!

Of course it didn't - it's a blood-soaked leather glove sitting in a vault for years, attempting to be worn by a man whos hand had swollen due to poor health.

So you're saying we have to acquit right?
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Glad he was found guilty in civil court and paid Nicole Brown's family all that money

darkjedilink posted...

JimmyReimjob posted...

But, in spite of the evidence, and despite the quality of his trial, he was found not guilty.

Because of race.

Even though oj was one of the most privileged mother fuckers on earth. You gotta almost admire the shamelessness of the defense
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clearaflagrantj posted...

Glad he was found guilty in civil court and paid Nicole Brown's family all that money

Apparently he still hasn't paid them
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MC_BatCommander posted...

Mark Furhman being an insanely racist piece of shit was probably what killed the case for the prosecution though.

A key witness committing perjury during a trial will do that, not necessarily the racism.
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Reminder that he wrote a *coughconfessioncough* ahem, a "hypothetical scenario" where he's the killer.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/If_I_Did_It
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IT was a hypothetical scenario though wasn't it? Or...
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saspa posted...

IT was a hypothetical scenario though wasn't it? Or...

It was a dumbass idea all around to make a "hypothetical" confession, that Fred Goldman ended up confiscating anyway.

He obviously did it.
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I don't think OJ was capable.
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He could have hired someone to do it but I don't know.
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I mean, the trial aside....his actions AFTER the fact are that of a smug dude who "got away with it"....Granted, the fall from grace might have contributed to his mentality afterwards but....he didn't do himself any favors with all the jokes, books and smiles...
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I like how at the end of the series it showed... that even though he got off, he still lost everything. By using the race card, he completely lost all his friends, all his white friends, and was a stranger among these black people whom he turned his back on when he got rich and famous. That was a nice touch.
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Nope. No way he'd get away with it in America given how the "justice" system works.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

I mean, the trial aside....his actions AFTER the fact are that of a smug dude who "got away with it"....Granted, the fall from grace might have contributed to his mentality afterwards but....he didn't do himself any favors with all the jokes, books and smiles...

I know his best friend the kardashian guy (insane when I found out that connection btw) believed he did it at the end, but did OJ's kids think he did it?
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Ive said before that jury trials dont really mean shit beyond the legal consequences there and now. There is a reason why high powered defense attorneys cost so much money.
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Of course he did it...

The reason people were happy he was found not guilty was because it means with enough money and influence even black people can get away with murder. Up until that point, a black person getting away with murder was unheard of.
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He was guilty, but at the time the LAPD didn't have their shit together in the least.
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Dustin1280 posted...

Of course he did it...

The reason people were happy he was found not guilty was because it means with enough money and influence even black people can get away with murder. Up until that point, a black person getting away with murder was unheard of.

Wow you just outright believe it huh? You seem so sure.
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But guys, the glove didn't fit! How could OJ have been the killer?
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He did it. There is no doubt in my mind. Its a shame Ito was such a terrible judge. Mark Furhmans whole racist cross exam was based on imaginary tapes that had nothing to do with black people and everything to do with him putting down his former superior officer. Oh and she was Itos wife. Should never have been allowed.

I think virtually every "trial of the century" I've seen the person was ACTUALLY guilty and they got off and everyone agrees that they did it (it's just the American court system operates on a principle of "beyond reasonable doubt" and if you find reasonable doubt, no matter how guilty you think they are, you are beholden to weigh "not guilty").

The only exception I can think of would probably be Timothy McVeigh.
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Solid Sonic posted...

I think virtually every "trial of the century" I've seen the person was ACTUALLY guilty and they got off and everyone agrees that they did it (it's just the American court system operates on a principle of "beyond reasonable doubt" and if you find reasonable doubt, no matter how guilty you think they are, you are beholden to weigh "not guilty").

The only exception I can think of would probably be Timothy McVeigh.

I actually think Casey Anthony while not necessarily innocent may have been telling the truth about what happened to her daughter. That was why she was acquitted I think.

clearaflagrantj posted...

Glad he was found guilty in civil court and paid Nicole Brown's family all that money

Unless I'm mistaken, he hasn't paid much of anything.
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how did he get away with not paying? the court told him to pay.

Zikten posted...

how did he get away with not paying? the court told him to pay.

He doesn't have any verifiable income. His book income got taken, but it doesn't sell, so they don't get anything.

He actively avoids reporting income as a result.
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Solid Snake07 posted...

Of course he did, the man basically admitted it in detail during a interview and "wrote" a good damn book about it

Damn, so Goldman did get the football.

Cal12 posted...

Solid Sonic posted...

I think virtually every "trial of the century" I've seen the person was ACTUALLY guilty and they got off and everyone agrees that they did it (it's just the American court system operates on a principle of "beyond reasonable doubt" and if you find reasonable doubt, no matter how guilty you think they are, you are beholden to weigh "not guilty").

The only exception I can think of would probably be Timothy McVeigh.

I actually think Casey Anthony while not necessarily innocent may have been telling the truth about what happened to her daughter. That was why she was acquitted I think.

My thought on that is she did kill her child but there was no intent behind it. The problem was the prosecution was so confident in a slam-dunk they went for first-degree homicide when there was no real proof of premeditation.

I think they could have easily nailed her for manslaughter and possibly even second-degree. I think the chloroform she had proves something to that effect (like she was trying to quiet her daughter and drugged her with it, using too much and accidentally killing her).
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Anyone who says he didnt kill them is delusional >_>
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Ammonitida posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

Of course he did, the man basically admitted it in detail during a interview and "wrote" a good damn book about it

Damn, so Goldman did get the football.

It's almost funny how Fred Goldman just keeps showing up every time OJ makes a dime.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oj-simpson-fred-goldman-post-prison-earnings-70-million-wrongful-death-judgment-ron-goldman-nicole-brown-simpson/

Questionmarktarius posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Solid Snake07 posted...

Of course he did, the man basically admitted it in detail during a interview and "wrote" a good damn book about it

Damn, so Goldman did get the football.

It's almost funny how Fred Goldman just keeps showing up every time OJ makes a dime.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/oj-simpson-fred-goldman-post-prison-earnings-70-million-wrongful-death-judgment-ron-goldman-nicole-brown-simpson/

It's absolutely pathetic how they describe the situation in that article - stating Goldman has 'hounded' Simpson implies that Simpson is an innocent victim.
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darkjedilink posted...

It's absolutely pathetic how they describe the situation in that article - stating Goldman has 'hounded' Simpson implies that Simpson is an innocent victim.

Legally speaking, he is "innocent". "Civilly liable" is the relevant part here.

In the end, Fred Goldman making his life completely miserable is a more effective punishment than being warehoused in prison anyway.

Questionmarktarius posted...

darkjedilink posted...

It's absolutely pathetic how they describe the situation in that article - stating Goldman has 'hounded' Simpson implies that Simpson is an innocent victim.

Legally speaking, he is "innocent". "Civilly liable" is the relevant part here.

In the end, Fred Goldman making his life completely miserable is a more effective punishment than being warehoused in prison anyway.

Legally speaking, he owes that money, so pretending Goldman is an ass for getting what he's legally owed, which the article suggests, is pathetic.
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Yes, he murdered the hell out of the two of them

hypothetically.
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