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iPhone_7
05/08/18 5:50:15 PM
#152:


If no compromise then what the fuck else, just skip to war?
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tremain07
05/08/18 5:50:48 PM
#153:


darkjedilink posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Still no one explaining why its good to get out of this deal, just trolling people who point out why its bad

Because appeasement of totalitarianism, international terrorism, drug smuggling, and arms dealing isn't something America should be doing, especially when it resulted in the deaths of American citizens.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

Funny because America can and has been doing that for years yet now you pretend to give a shit?
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darkjedilink
05/08/18 5:53:21 PM
#154:


tremain07 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Still no one explaining why its good to get out of this deal, just trolling people who point out why its bad

Because appeasement of totalitarianism, international terrorism, drug smuggling, and arms dealing isn't something America should be doing, especially when it resulted in the deaths of American citizens.

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2017/obama-hezbollah-drug-trafficking-investigation/

Funny because America can and has been doing that for years yet now you pretend to give a shit?

I have repeatedly spoken out against it on numerous occasions. That doesn't explain why Obama killed all of the Hezbollah investigations in order to make this deal is a good thing.
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SomeonesAlt
05/08/18 6:00:40 PM
#155:


So I read that the Dipshit is now threatening to sanction our allies who still stay in the deal?
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tremain07
05/08/18 6:02:16 PM
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And they really can't afford to say no Europe is America's bitch, who in turn is Isreal and Russia's bitch.
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iPhone_7
05/08/18 6:04:39 PM
#157:


SomeonesAlt posted...
So I read that the Dipshit is now threatening to sanction our allies who still stay in the deal?

https://www.burnsiderarebooks.com/pictures/171016003.jpg
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Axiom
05/08/18 6:14:33 PM
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SomeonesAlt posted...
So I read that the Dipshit is now threatening to sanction our allies who still stay in the deal?

He doesn't just burn bridges. He nukes them
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iPhone_7
05/08/18 6:24:33 PM
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Spooking posted...
It's been said time and time again that Obama should have sought after congressional approval instead of EO his way through his presidency. He didn't do it for whatever reason: laziness? Incompetence? Arrogance? Who knows. The fact of the matter is congress should be the ones making these decisions and enforcing them by law, not an EO that you hope to pass down to the next president hoping he'll honor them. LOL


Maybe its because the rightwing hardliners and warhawks with their fear mongering would go after any member of Congress that voted for a compromise. Goodbye re-election. The party of No.

Lets just go back to before the deal, telling Iran to stahp while they continue to developed their nuclear capabilities.
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Antifar
05/08/18 7:14:34 PM
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ElatedVenusaur
05/08/18 7:14:57 PM
#162:


iPhone_7 posted...
Spooking posted...
It's been said time and time again that Obama should have sought after congressional approval instead of EO his way through his presidency. He didn't do it for whatever reason: laziness? Incompetence? Arrogance? Who knows. The fact of the matter is congress should be the ones making these decisions and enforcing them by law, not an EO that you hope to pass down to the next president hoping he'll honor them. LOL


Maybe its because the rightwing hardliners and warhawks with their fear mongering would go after any member of Congress that voted for a compromise. Goodbye re-election. The party of No.

Lets just go back to before the deal, telling Iran to stahp while they continue to developed their nuclear capabilities.

Or, you know, nobody but us sanctions Iran and they get real cozy with Russia and China.
There's also the war option. It's the worst possible option, so it has a decent chance of happening.
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prince_leo
05/08/18 7:58:15 PM
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Antifar posted...
https://lobelog.com/three-billionaires-paved-way-for-trumps-iran-deal-withdrawal/

Adelson, for his part, has advocated launching a nuclear weapon against Iran as a negotiating tactic and threatening to nuke Tehran, a city with a population of 8.8 million,

holy shit
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tremain07
05/08/18 7:59:36 PM
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So, when the neo cons get their war with Iran just who exactly will be making shitloads of money off it?
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muchdran
05/08/18 8:00:17 PM
#165:


iPhone_7 posted...
Spooking posted...
It's been said time and time again that Obama should have sought after congressional approval instead of EO his way through his presidency. He didn't do it for whatever reason: laziness? Incompetence? Arrogance? Who knows. The fact of the matter is congress should be the ones making these decisions and enforcing them by law, not an EO that you hope to pass down to the next president hoping he'll honor them. LOL


Maybe its because the rightwing hardliners and warhawks with their fear mongering would go after any member of Congress that voted for a compromise. Goodbye re-election. The party of No.

Lets just go back to before the deal, telling Iran to stahp while they continue to developed their nuclear capabilities.

So just pay them?
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Bio1590
05/08/18 8:06:18 PM
#166:


tremain07 posted...
And they really can't afford to say no Europe is America's bitch, who in turn is Isreal and Russia's bitch.

I think France already has plans in place for this something. Someone was talking about Airbus' deal with Iran for more planes.
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P4wn4g3
05/08/18 8:10:50 PM
#167:


Trump has to be among the stupidest people on the planet who aren't entirely disabled.
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Antifar
05/08/18 8:12:12 PM
#168:


P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump has to be among the stupidest people on the planet who aren't entirely disabled.

He is also probably the smartest person in his administration
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Tmaster148
05/08/18 8:12:48 PM
#169:


Antifar posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
Trump has to be among the stupidest people on the planet who aren't entirely disabled.

He is also probably the smartest person in his administration


I'm not sure on that.
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Tmaster148
05/08/18 8:29:37 PM
#171:


CrimsonRage posted...
the US's soft power is completely gone now. their allies don't trust them anymore and China and Russia will come out of this looking like gold.

how is this winning?


Not completely yet, but the current admin is trying to eliminate it. Because soft power helps prevent wars.
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tremain07
05/08/18 8:30:16 PM
#172:


To Trump he wins by shitting on something Obama did
To his dumbass cult he wins because this is one step closer to their Isolationist America fantasy
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A_Good_Boy
05/08/18 8:30:57 PM
#173:


CrimsonRage posted...
the US's soft power is completely gone now. their allies don't trust them anymore and China and Russia will come out of this looking like gold.

how is this winning?

Because liherals are upset.
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UnholyMudcrab
05/08/18 8:37:16 PM
#174:


It truly is incredible how much damage Trump has managed to do to American diplomacy in just a year and a half
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DifferentialEquation
05/08/18 8:42:15 PM
#175:


Good. It was a terrible deal. Honestly, it was one of the worst deals ever made and we're better off without it.
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Patchwork
05/08/18 8:44:58 PM
#176:


DifferentialEquation posted...
Good. It was a terrible deal. Honestly, it was one of the worst deals ever made and we're better off without it.


I read this in Trump's voice, and the wording really fits.
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P4wn4g3
05/08/18 8:45:59 PM
#177:


I have to wonder if DE is ever repulsed with his gimmick.
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DifferentialEquation
05/08/18 8:49:58 PM
#178:


P4wn4g3 posted...
I have to wonder if DE is ever repulsed with his gimmick.


It's not a gimmick. The only time I ever feel repulsed is when I look back and see that I didn't do enough to support Trump. Like when the new God of War came out, I basically spent all my free time playing that. I don't think I made even one pro-Trump post in the span of about 5 days and I felt really bad about it afterwards.
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FLUFFYGERM
05/08/18 8:57:23 PM
#179:


lmao at the people fearmongering about war

when did CE become so full of people with such deep expertise on literally every subject including diplomacy and international politics?
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catboy0_0
05/08/18 9:04:55 PM
#180:


Spooking posted...
Score one for the good guys. Thanks President Trump!

can't wait to die for my country
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HiddenRoar
05/08/18 9:23:44 PM
#181:


shockthemonkey posted...
Still no one explaining why its good to get out of this deal, just trolling people who point out why its bad


It allowed Iran access to assets that were frozen due to their support for terrorist-designated groups, such as Hezbollah.
Those funds being used to again support terror groups and further ballestic missile development.
Not to mention the deal doesn't prevent Iran from developing nuclear thanks to the Sunset clause in the deal.

Also this doesn't affect the Korean talks, as pretty much every commentator I've seen on PBS and CBS stated as such;, probably because North Korea has more to gain in benefits from peace with South Korea (and how China would rather not give the US a reason to move nuclear fleets closer to their shores, which is why they're applying economic pressure towards NK to bring them to the talks table)
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Tmaster148
05/08/18 9:27:39 PM
#183:


CrimsonRage posted...
P4wn4g3 posted...
I have to wonder if DE is ever repulsed with his gimmick.


he only broke gimmick once, when Trump failed to condemn the neo-Nazis in Charlottesville


At least he has better standards than Trump.
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RainblowDash
05/08/18 9:33:05 PM
#184:


Spooking posted...
Good. Enough of Iran's lies and deceit.

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Capn Circus
05/08/18 9:37:27 PM
#186:


CrimsonRage posted...
there still hasn't been anyone explaining why the iran deal was bad yet.

c'mon trump shills, don't disappoint


Trump says it himself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aixso4N2vhI" data-time="

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ledbowman
05/08/18 10:03:40 PM
#187:


Iran has not violated the deal. Even Mattis says so.
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hockeybub89
05/08/18 10:21:27 PM
#188:


darkjedilink posted...
Because appeasement of totalitarianism, international terrorism, drug smuggling, and arms dealing isn't something America should be doing, especially when it resulted in the deaths of American citizens.

Yet North Korea is cool. Since they only check a few boxes.
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hockeybub89
05/08/18 10:25:07 PM
#189:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
lmao at the people fearmongering about war

when did CE become so full of people with such deep expertise on literally every subject including diplomacy and international politics?

Anyone that has ever spoken to people knows that telling everyone to fuck off all the time is not good diplomacy. That's not to say everyone deserves good diplomacy, but don't pretend it is.
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darkjedilink
05/09/18 11:28:52 AM
#191:


hockeybub89 posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Because appeasement of totalitarianism, international terrorism, drug smuggling, and arms dealing isn't something America should be doing, especially when it resulted in the deaths of American citizens.

Yet North Korea is cool. Since they only check a few boxes.

Are you suggesting that Trump coddles North Korea like Obama coddled Iran?
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Antifar
05/09/18 11:35:58 AM
#192:


I'm sure John Bolton and Mike Pompeo have zero interest in attacking Iran
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nicklebro
05/10/18 11:31:54 AM
#193:


FLUFFYGERM posted...
lmao at the people fearmongering about war

when did CE become so full of people with such deep expertise on literally every subject including diplomacy and international politics?

Just following your lead!
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