Current Events > Lol paid Nintendo Switch online

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-Cloud save backups via subscription only (PS4 has local backups and Xbox has free cloud storage even without Live)
-NES Virtual Console games included every month (meanwhile PS4 and Xbox give away console exclusives on a regular basis)
-Every classic NES game will support voice chat via the Nintendo Switch Online smartphone app

Bet this will come just in time for Smash 5 also
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I mean it's also dirt cheap compared to PS plus or Xbox Online. I don't really see the point of downplaying it. Previous Nintendo consoles have had free local backups and online transfers too so
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Previous Nintendo consoles have had free local backups and online transfers too so

The Switch offers neither for free.

I mean it's also dirt cheap compared to PS plus or Xbox Online.

I bought 6 months of Live last December for $25. Nobody who's been buying these for a while buys these things at full price
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Previous Nintendo consoles have had free local backups and online transfers too so

The Switch offers neither for free.

I mean it's also dirt cheap compared to PS plus or Xbox Online.

I bought 6 months of Live last December for $25. Nobody who's been buying these for a while buys these things at full price

>paying an additional $50 a year to use your internet
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Add party chat on the console and a functional friend/messaging system that doesn't require a fucking phone and they'd be sweet.

I don't care about paying an extra $40 for games I rarely play. I'd prefer a flow of retro games for cheaper.
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The online doesn't look bad for Nintendo based on all the rumors
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Why would you need voice chat on nes games though?

thats the most asinine thing about it imo
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

I bought 6 months of Live last December for $25. Nobody who's been buying these for a while buys these things at full price

That's still more than double compared to Nintendo.

Take advantage of the family plan and it's even cheaper.

Price isn't the issue.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Every classic NES game will support voice chat

Who would you be talking to, and why?
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live's cloud service started off as a pay-gated thing. fairly sure ps' is also the same.

Sajo posted...

Who would you be talking to, and why?

it's y cant metroid crawl for a new generation
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Sajo posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Every classic NES game will support voice chat

Who would you be talking to, and why?

The person you're playing against because you want to?

Like if you want to play some Dr Mario with your best buddy online you think it's weird to want to talk to them?

Cloud saves being behind a paywall isn't a huge deal but they're should be a way to locally store savegames. I'm assuming they don't to avoid homebrew but that's a shit excuse.
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The only thing worth complaining about is the voice chat. Cloud saves are behind a paywall on the PS4, Xbox is the only one that did that right. Hell, Xbox is the only one worth paying full price for the sub (lol if you do though). And full price for the Switch one is pretty damn cheap. NES games with online capability and what sounds like game share sounds neat. I'm hoping they'll announce virtual console at E3 too.
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Smashingpmkns posted...

NES games with online capability and what sounds like game share sounds neat.

I think the only games everyone on the family account will be able to access are the subscription ones. Not sure if you're implying that digital games will carry across several Switch consoles. I really doubt that's the case.
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Darmik posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

I bought 6 months of Live last December for $25. Nobody who's been buying these for a while buys these things at full price

That's still more than double compared to Nintendo.

Take advantage of the family plan and it's even cheaper.

Price isn't the issue.

Live/PSP comes with decent free games, bigger online discounts, a party chat system that makes actual sense, and true backwards compatibility on Xbox One.

Oh wait, that last one is free lol
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I want a real virtual console tho. I want SNES and GBA games.
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Evolician posted...

I want a real virtual console tho. I want SNES and GBA games.

How will they be any different from the SNES and GBA games you have on your 3DS tho

Or (S)NES Classic

Or Wii U

Or Raspberry Pi
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TC is an XBOT, lol.

I don't mind paying 25 bucks a year Canadian for them to beef up their online infrastructure.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Darmik posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

I bought 6 months of Live last December for $25. Nobody who's been buying these for a while buys these things at full price

That's still more than double compared to Nintendo.

Take advantage of the family plan and it's even cheaper.

Price isn't the issue.

Live/PSP comes with decent free games, bigger online discounts, a party chat system that makes actual sense, and true backwards compatibility on Xbox One.

Oh wait, that last one is free lol

You get all that for free on Steam.

I wouldn't say any of these services are ideal or worth bragging about.
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

TC is an XBOT, lol.

I don't mind paying 25 bucks a year Canadian for them to beef up their online infrastructure.

Gurl I bought my first ever Xbox back in December

And you damn well know Nintendo online is gonna be the exact same as it is now
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

TC is an XBOT, lol.

I don't mind paying 25 bucks a year Canadian for them to beef up their online infrastructure.

Gurl I bought my first ever Xbox back in December

And you damn well know Nintendo online is gonna be the exact same as it is now

You mean functioning well? Good.
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Darmik posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Darmik posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

I bought 6 months of Live last December for $25. Nobody who's been buying these for a while buys these things at full price

That's still more than double compared to Nintendo.

Take advantage of the family plan and it's even cheaper.

Price isn't the issue.

Live/PSP comes with decent free games, bigger online discounts, a party chat system that makes actual sense, and true backwards compatibility on Xbox One.

Oh wait, that last one is free lol

You get all that for free on Steam

and you only have to buy a rig that costs 2/3 times as much as a One X to properly game on it

Not to mention enabling Valve's gambling underworld and further justifying the absence of Half Life 3
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

and you only have to buy a rig that costs 2/3 times as much as a One X to properly game on it

you have no idea what you are talking about
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I_Stay_Noided posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

and you only have to buy a rig that costs 2/3 times as much as a One X to properly game on it

you have no idea what you are talking about

You gonna post a "$500 gaming PC vs Xbox One X" video or something

https://www.pcgamer.com/heres-how-microsofts-xbox-one-x-compares-to-a-pc/

With desktop hardware, an RX 580 wouldn't be enough to do 4K gaming.

It would be hard to build a gaming PC this compact at the same price, but as always, a gaming PC will be a more versatile system.

Square up
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Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...

You mean functioning well? Good.

You can't even party up with your friends before jumping into matchmaking in Splatoon and you people think this is normal.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Cloud save backups via subscription only

You know I knew this was coming and it still pisses me off. Literally restricted back up saves to force paying for their online service

20 dollars a year for that?

Lul
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

and you only have to buy a rig that costs 2/3 times as much as a One X to properly game on it

Not to mention enabling Valve's gambling underworld and further justifying the absence of Half Life 3

Properly game on it? What?

We're talking about online features anyway. Doesn't matter what PC you have. Those things are free on Steam. Discounts, BC, whatever.

Bragging about a paid console online service is sad. They all have their own issues in their own unique ways.
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Axiom posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Cloud save backups via subscription only

You know I knew this was coming and it still pisses me off. Literally restricted back up saves to force paying for their online service

Same.

Now if your Switch goes kaput and you didn't subscribe to their online service beforehand you're fucked
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Darmik posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

and you only have to buy a rig that costs 2/3 times as much as a One X to properly game on it

Not to mention enabling Valve's gambling underworld and further justifying the absence of Half Life 3

Properly game on it? What?

We're talking about online features anyway. Doesn't matter what PC you have. Those things are free on Steam. Discounts, BC, whatever.

Bragging about a paid console online service is sad. They all have their own issues in their own unique ways.

It's not bragging as much as it's countering the whole "Consoles except Nintendo can't do it because PC exists" nomenclature that's used as an excuse every time.

A Raspberry Pi is probably a nicer emulator than the SNES Classic. You could probably emulate for free on PC. Not gonna stop loads of people from buying one anyway because it's functional and stable, like most consoles

My PC can't even play Fallout 3 without extended bullshitting
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

Axiom posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Cloud save backups via subscription only

You know I knew this was coming and it still pisses me off. Literally restricted back up saves to force paying for their online service

Same.

Now if your Switch goes kaput and you didn't subscribe to their online service beforehand you're fucked

Which is exactly what my first switch did. It got the flashing green light of death in just a few days of owning it which I guess is sort of lucky in that it failed before I got too far in BotW. I just exchanged it for a new one

legendarylemur posted...

I mean it's also dirt cheap compared to PS plus or Xbox Online.

at least PS Plus and Xbox Live offer a lot of content for the subs. Nintendo should be cheaper for what little they are offering.

we still gotta use the phone application for voice communications lmao?

Shit should be $5.99 each month.
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Axiom posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Axiom posted...

AvantgardeAClue posted...

Cloud save backups via subscription only

You know I knew this was coming and it still pisses me off. Literally restricted back up saves to force paying for their online service

Same.

Now if your Switch goes kaput and you didn't subscribe to their online service beforehand you're fucked

Which is exactly what my first switch did. It got the flashing green light of death in just a few days of owning it which I guess is sort of lucky in that it failed before I got too far in BotW. I just exchanged it for a new one

Ouch. Luckily when I sent in my Switch for repair they system transferred before the feature was available in an update

Local saves are even on the freaking 3DS

I think they realize it would be a hard sell otherwise if they didn't include that in the online cost
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Darmik posted...

Smashingpmkns posted...

NES games with online capability and what sounds like game share sounds neat.

I think the only games everyone on the family account will be able to access are the subscription ones. Not sure if you're implying that digital games will carry across several Switch consoles. I really doubt that's the case.

I read the online capability for NES single player games wrong. I guess you take turns over two switches? I dunno still kinda neat if integrated right. Not as cool as game share though
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Dark_SilverX posted...

legendarylemur posted...

I mean it's also dirt cheap compared to PS plus or Xbox Online.

at least PS Plus and Xbox Live offer a lot of content for the subs. Nintendo should be cheaper for what little they are offering.

we still gotta use the phone application for voice communications lmao?

Shit should be $2.99 each month with half off digital Switch games and double gold coins on every purchase

Fixed

Devils advocate, Xbox Live/PSP is $5 a month annually, so Switch can go lower.
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AvantgardeAClue posted...

It's not bragging as much as it's countering the whole "Consoles except Nintendo can't do it because PC exists" nomenclature that's used as an excuse every time.

Used an excuse for what?

You're bragging about shit you're paying for $50 a year for even though it's free on another platform. That's it.

It doesn't cost Microsoft, Sony and Nintendo money to offer you sale discounts on their digital stores. Stuff like that is added in to give their services perceived value.

The market has accepted this stuff and it will never change. That's the precedent. But I'm not gonna pretend that these services aren't anything more than free money for any of these companies. They're simply not worth bragging about.

If Nintendo is going to do this shit they most certainly shouldn't charge $60 and copy Sony and Microsoft. Their price point is okay. They need to fix their shitty online features and be up to standard. That's fine. I would also prefer if Sony and Microsoft also offer a $20 tier for people who aren't interested in their monthly games. But they won't.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

A Raspberry Pi is probably a nicer emulator than the SNES Classic. You could probably emulate for free on PC. Not gonna stop loads of people from buying one anyway because it's functional and stable, like most consoles

PC's and Steam aren't the same as an emulator on a custom mini PC. Jesus Christ.

And again this has nothing to do with online services.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

My PC can't even play Fallout 3 without extended bulls***ting

And? Does $50 a year guarantee all of your 2008 360 and PS3 games work? No.
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Dark_SilverX posted...

legendarylemur posted...

I mean it's also dirt cheap compared to PS plus or Xbox Online.

at least PS Plus and Xbox Live offer a lot of content for the subs. Nintendo should be cheaper for what little they are offering.

we still gotta use the phone application for voice communications lmao?

Shit should be $5.99 each month.

It's cheaper than that. It's $20 for the year or $4 a month.

You could also get a family account for $35 a year and share it with 7 other people
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Basically $20 a year for NES games
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Irony posted...

Basically $20 a year for NES games

NES games you can own forever with the purchase of a $60-80 (S)NES Classic
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