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cjsdowg
05/08/18 10:51:57 AM
#201:


HiddenLurker posted...

*cough* Zimmerman had a gun. If he wanted to kill there was no need for him to engage in melee combat.


He assumed that he could take the child he was following , then BAMB he couldn't. Tell me why did your hero change his story. Tell me why did your hero lie about another man attacking him? Tell me why is it ok that Zimmerman attacked a cop, Tell me why it is ok that Zimmerman lied to the courts. ( I could keep going on).

Everything about Zimmerman shows him to be a violent ,lying , nutcase, but since he killed a black kid he was chasing to people like you all of that other stuff doesn't matter and he is hero.
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darkjedilink
05/08/18 10:52:52 AM
#202:


cjsdowg posted...
HiddenLurker posted...

*cough* Zimmerman had a gun. If he wanted to kill there was no need for him to engage in melee combat.


He assumed that he could take the child he was following , then BAMB he couldn't. Tell me why did your hero change his story. Tell me why did your hero lie about another man attacking him? Tell me why is it ok that Zimmerman attacked a cop, Tell me why it is ok that Zimmerman lied to the courts. ( I could keep going on).

Everything about Zimmerman shows him to be a violent ,lying , nutcase, but since he killed a black kid he was chasing to people like you all of that other stuff doesn't matter and he is hero.

What the fuck are you going on about?
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Kineth
05/08/18 11:06:52 AM
#203:


darkjedilink posted...
Kineth posted...
darkjedilink posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Kineth posted...
cjsdowg posted...
AirJordan2345 posted...

martin's gf corroborated zimmerman's story? don't remember that


Funny Martin girlfriend literally said that Martin Yelled get off me before the phone was dropped. But hey I guess they just over look that part.


It's amazing how much those types won't shut up about the case, yet they can't even get the certifiable facts straight.


She told the prosecutor that the screams for help heard on the 911 call made by a neighbor belong to Martin. But on cross-examination, defense attorney Don West read part of a transcript from Jeantel's deposition, in which she said she wasn't sure if it was Martin's voice or not
"It could be. Like I said, I don't know but it could be," said Jeantel, according to the transcript. "The dude sound kind of like Trayvon. Trayvon do got that soft voice and that baby voice sometimes, so it could be, I don't know."
Jeantel admitted to West that she lied several times to Martin's family.



Someone quote me so the people in the back row can hear me.

Lmfao Kineth shut your mouth and get educated on the subject

Done.


So is witness testimony both reliable and unreliable? Either way, doesn't corroborate it.

That part? Not necessarily. The part where she said Martin got home after losing Zimmerman, then turned around to 'teach that crazy-assed cracker a lesson' does.


Ah so witness testimony is both reliable and unreliable. It's easy to cherrypick statements to corroborate a narrative, especially when it's done in a way that ignores other parts of the testimony. It's also easier to corroborate a narrative when they didn't bother collecting evidence or collecting the testimony until 6 weeks after it initially happened.

All I'm saying is that there's way too many unknowns to treat anything close to the whole chain of events as if there's absolutely no other way it played out.
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thelovefist
05/08/18 11:08:58 AM
#204:


Kineth posted...
Ah so witness testimony is both reliable and unreliable.


Yes this is very much true. I don't know why you're struggling so much with understanding this.
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cjsdowg
05/08/18 11:16:22 AM
#205:


Kineth posted...

Ah so witness testimony is both reliable and unreliable. It's easy to cherrypick statements to corroborate a narrative, especially when it's done in a way that ignores other parts of the testimony. It's also easier to corroborate a narrative when they didn't bother collecting evidence or collecting the testimony until 6 weeks after it initially happened.

All I'm saying is that there's way too many unknowns to treat anything close to the whole chain of events as if there's absolutely no other way it played out.


I like how they not only bypass the information that they don't. That add stuff that people never said . The fact that they have to lie to defend Zimmerman says it all .
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Patchwork
05/08/18 11:19:51 AM
#206:


I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.
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thelovefist
05/08/18 11:21:59 AM
#207:


Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.

thelovefist posted...
I think it is possible to believe he is a despicable man and also believe he was rightfully found not guilty in the Trayvon Martin incident.

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darkjedilink
05/08/18 11:28:58 AM
#208:


cjsdowg posted...
Kineth posted...

Ah so witness testimony is both reliable and unreliable. It's easy to cherrypick statements to corroborate a narrative, especially when it's done in a way that ignores other parts of the testimony. It's also easier to corroborate a narrative when they didn't bother collecting evidence or collecting the testimony until 6 weeks after it initially happened.

All I'm saying is that there's way too many unknowns to treat anything close to the whole chain of events as if there's absolutely no other way it played out.


I like how they not only bypass the information that they don't. That add stuff that people never said . The fact that they have to lie to defend Zimmerman says it all .

One of you two believes the verdict is based on the anti-black racism of Obama's and Holder's FBI.
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Kineth
05/08/18 11:32:04 AM
#209:


That's a pretty far reach to sidestep what was said.
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NinjaWarrior455
05/08/18 11:33:10 AM
#210:


thelovefist posted...
Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.

thelovefist posted...
I think it is possible to believe he is a despicable man and also believe he was rightfully found not guilty in the Trayvon Martin incident.

You can keep quoting yourself but that doesn't change the fact that several users in the very topic are defending his character altogether. The Trayvon Martin case has literally nothing to do with that and you know it.
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thelovefist
05/08/18 11:36:54 AM
#211:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
The Trayvon Martin case has literally nothing to do with that and you know it.


Why are Kineth and cjsdowg incessantly posting about it then?
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NinjaWarrior455
05/08/18 11:43:13 AM
#212:


thelovefist posted...
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
The Trayvon Martin case has literally nothing to do with that and you know it.


Why are Kineth and cjsdowg incessantly posting about it then?

Why are you concerned with why they're talking about it and not JP, UR and djl? Close your account welch.
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Heineken14
05/08/18 11:44:13 AM
#213:


Stalking and threatening violence against someone? Why, this doesn't sound like Zimmerman at all!
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darkjedilink
05/08/18 11:48:18 AM
#214:


Kineth posted...
That's a pretty far reach to sidestep what was said.

Not really - you guys literally invented a story to make Zimmerman a racist monster, with zero facts to back up that claim, ignoring all evidence to the contrary, and defend it by saying 'well, Martin can't testify.'
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thelovefist
05/08/18 11:49:51 AM
#215:


NinjaWarrior455 posted...
thelovefist posted...
NinjaWarrior455 posted...
The Trayvon Martin case has literally nothing to do with that and you know it.


Why are Kineth and cjsdowg incessantly posting about it then?

Why are you concerned with why they're talking about it and not JP, UR and djl? Close your account welch.

You seem to be needlessly hostile and could be experiencing a meltdown. You should probably take a timeout before you're put in one.
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KingCrabCake
05/08/18 11:49:52 AM
#216:


The Great Muta 22 posted...


You want to defend a nutbag with violent tendencies who just can't seem to keep his name out of the paper for events when the police get called, be my guest. I already have a low opinion of you anyways, so this is just a drop in the bucket


Im not defending him. Hes a piece of shit. But he wasn't a criminal the night of the martin shooting.

Dont know why you keep defending a racist violent thief.

Also what crimes has georgie been convicted of @The_Great_Muta_22
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Kineth
05/08/18 11:51:45 AM
#217:


darkjedilink posted...

"you guys"?
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KingCrabCake
05/08/18 11:52:12 AM
#218:


cjsdowg posted...
HiddenLurker posted...

*cough* Zimmerman had a gun. If he wanted to kill there was no need for him to engage in melee combat.


He assumed that he could take the child he was following , then BAMB he couldn't. Tell me why did your hero change his story. Tell me why did your hero lie about another man attacking him? Tell me why is it ok that Zimmerman attacked a cop, Tell me why it is ok that Zimmerman lied to the courts. ( I could keep going on).

Everything about Zimmerman shows him to be a violent ,lying , nutcase, but since he killed a black kid he was chasing to people like you all of that other stuff doesn't matter and he is hero.

And everything about trayvon screamed angry violent racist thief
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KingCrabCake
05/08/18 11:53:46 AM
#219:


Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.


U have no problem with people defending martin
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KingCrabCake
05/08/18 11:55:48 AM
#220:


Imagine if a white kid called a black guy "a creepy ******" and then attacked the man and smashed his head into the concrete...

It would be all over the news that the kid is racist and violent. But since hes not ...they use an old innocent looking picture and pretend he wasnt a violent racist.

Smh double standards
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HiddenLurker
05/08/18 11:56:15 AM
#221:


cjsdowg posted...
HiddenLurker posted...

*cough* Zimmerman had a gun. If he wanted to kill there was no need for him to engage in melee combat.


He assumed that he could take the child he was following , then BAMB he couldn't. Tell me why did your hero change his story. Tell me why did your hero lie about another man attacking him? Tell me why is it ok that Zimmerman attacked a cop, Tell me why it is ok that Zimmerman lied to the courts. ( I could keep going on).

Everything about Zimmerman shows him to be a violent ,lying , nutcase, but since he killed a black kid he was chasing to people like you all of that other stuff doesn't matter and he is hero.

HE.
HAD.
A.
GUN.
Do you understand english?
If he wanted to kill the "kid" all he had to do is pull it out and shoot him. Getting into melee combat is a very easy way to get the gun taken from you and getting shot by your own gun.
And when the heck did I call him a hero? Just cause I am not writing bad fan fiction about Travon....
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thelovefist
05/08/18 11:57:18 AM
#222:


This topic has become a complete dumpster fire.
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Patchwork
05/08/18 12:01:11 PM
#223:


thelovefist posted...
Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.

thelovefist posted...
I think it is possible to believe he is a despicable man and also believe he was rightfully found not guilty in the Trayvon Martin incident.


I'm sorry. I must've misread the topic title. Is this about Trayvon? Zimmerman is garbage; he's done nothing positive with his life. That some people feel the need to immediately, whenever he's being charged, point out that he was justified in killing Trayvon Martin despite the current case having nothing to do with Trayvon at all is fucking ridiculous.
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Patchwork
05/08/18 12:02:43 PM
#224:


KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.


U have no problem with people defending martin


No, I don't. Martin is dead; he can't defend himself, and his narrative will never be told.
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thelovefist
05/08/18 12:03:51 PM
#225:


Patchwork posted...
thelovefist posted...
Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.

thelovefist posted...
I think it is possible to believe he is a despicable man and also believe he was rightfully found not guilty in the Trayvon Martin incident.


I'm sorry. I must've misread the topic title. Is this about Trayvon? Zimmerman is garbage; he's done nothing positive with his life. That some people feel the need to immediately, whenever he's being charged, point out that he was justified in killing Trayvon Martin despite the current case having nothing to do with Trayvon at all is fucking ridiculous.

The guy he was stalking was making a documentary about the Trayvon incident so there's that.
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KingCrabCake
05/08/18 12:06:08 PM
#226:


Patchwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.


U have no problem with people defending martin


No, I don't. Martin is dead; he can't defend himself, and his narrative will never be told.


Oh so u make excuses why its okay to defend a violent racist thief?
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darkjedilink
05/08/18 12:06:22 PM
#227:


Kineth posted...
darkjedilink posted...

"you guys"?

Are you a woman?
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thelovefist
05/08/18 12:07:13 PM
#228:


darkjedilink posted...
Kineth posted...
darkjedilink posted...

"you guys"?

Are you a woman?

I think Kineth is a transwoman and they probably took issue with you misgendering them.
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Patchwork
05/08/18 12:07:17 PM
#229:


thelovefist posted...
Patchwork posted...
thelovefist posted...
Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.

thelovefist posted...
I think it is possible to believe he is a despicable man and also believe he was rightfully found not guilty in the Trayvon Martin incident.


I'm sorry. I must've misread the topic title. Is this about Trayvon? Zimmerman is garbage; he's done nothing positive with his life. That some people feel the need to immediately, whenever he's being charged, point out that he was justified in killing Trayvon Martin despite the current case having nothing to do with Trayvon at all is fucking ridiculous.

The guy he was stalking was making a documentary about the Trayvon incident so there's that.


So, his innocence regarding killing Trayvon is pivotal to him stalking and harassing someone? So pivotal that his innocence needed to be brought up and defended in that case?

Get the fuck out of here.
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Patchwork
05/08/18 12:09:16 PM
#230:


KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.


U have no problem with people defending martin


No, I don't. Martin is dead; he can't defend himself, and his narrative will never be told.


Oh so u make excuses why its okay to defend a violent racist thief?


I've watched you post here for a while now, and it's like reading one of those journals in early Resident Evil games where the guy is turning and slowly losing his cognitive ability.

I try to take you seriously, but this keeps making me laugh.
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thelovefist
05/08/18 12:10:16 PM
#231:


Patchwork posted...
thelovefist posted...
Patchwork posted...
thelovefist posted...
Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.

thelovefist posted...
I think it is possible to believe he is a despicable man and also believe he was rightfully found not guilty in the Trayvon Martin incident.


I'm sorry. I must've misread the topic title. Is this about Trayvon? Zimmerman is garbage; he's done nothing positive with his life. That some people feel the need to immediately, whenever he's being charged, point out that he was justified in killing Trayvon Martin despite the current case having nothing to do with Trayvon at all is fucking ridiculous.

The guy he was stalking was making a documentary about the Trayvon incident so there's that.


So, his innocence regarding killing Trayvon is pivotal to him stalking and harassing someone? So pivotal that his innocence needed to be brought up and defended in that case?

Get the fuck out of here.

The guy is a total scumbag and I hope he gets prison time for this. I also agree that his (alleged) crime has nothing to do with what happened with Trayvon Martin. I am just (trying, but failing apparently) saying that you can't hand-wave away any comments about Trayvon when Zimmerman comes up. The two names will forever be linked.
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Kineth
05/08/18 12:10:49 PM
#232:


darkjedilink posted...
Kineth posted...
darkjedilink posted...

"you guys"?

Are you a woman?


Well, you went on to list a whole bunch of bullshit that other people said and then said "you guys" so I'm wondering who the guys are that you're labeling me as.
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Kineth
05/08/18 12:11:42 PM
#233:


It's even more ridiculous that some of you guys are arguing with a literal cop over this shit.
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KingCrabCake
05/08/18 12:11:52 PM
#234:


Patchwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.


U have no problem with people defending martin


No, I don't. Martin is dead; he can't defend himself, and his narrative will never be told.


Oh so u make excuses why its okay to defend a violent racist thief?


I've watched you post here for a while now, and it's like reading one of those journals in early Resident Evil games where the guy is turning and slowly losing his cognitive ability.

I try to take you seriously, but this keeps making me laugh.


You dont have a come back so u just type words?

Lmao

Sorry go ahead n defend the violent racist. You're not being a hypocrite or anything
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KingCrabCake
05/08/18 12:12:22 PM
#235:


Kineth posted...
It's even more ridiculous that some of you guys are arguing with a literal cop over this shit.

Hes a white cop. We all know what u said about white cops
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Patchwork
05/08/18 12:13:51 PM
#236:


KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.


U have no problem with people defending martin


No, I don't. Martin is dead; he can't defend himself, and his narrative will never be told.


Oh so u make excuses why its okay to defend a violent racist thief?


I've watched you post here for a while now, and it's like reading one of those journals in early Resident Evil games where the guy is turning and slowly losing his cognitive ability.

I try to take you seriously, but this keeps making me laugh.


You dont have a come back so u just type words?

Lmao

Sorry go ahead n defend the violent racist. You're not being a hypocrite or anything


Lol
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KingCrabCake
05/08/18 12:18:55 PM
#237:


Patchwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Patchwork posted...
I don't understand why people bend over backwards to defend George Zimmerman.

He's a legitimate scumbag.


U have no problem with people defending martin


No, I don't. Martin is dead; he can't defend himself, and his narrative will never be told.


Oh so u make excuses why its okay to defend a violent racist thief?


I've watched you post here for a while now, and it's like reading one of those journals in early Resident Evil games where the guy is turning and slowly losing his cognitive ability.

I try to take you seriously, but this keeps making me laugh.


You dont have a come back so u just type words?

Lmao

Sorry go ahead n defend the violent racist. You're not being a hypocrite or anything


Lol


A normal reaponse from someone who is wrong
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darkjedilink
05/08/18 12:21:59 PM
#238:


Kineth posted...
It's even more ridiculous that some of you guys are arguing with a literal cop over this shit.

What cop?
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Kineth
05/08/18 12:33:42 PM
#239:


darkjedilink posted...
Kineth posted...
It's even more ridiculous that some of you guys are arguing with a literal cop over this shit.

What cop?


I don't owe you any answers.
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thelovefist
05/08/18 12:35:13 PM
#240:


Kineth posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Kineth posted...
It's even more ridiculous that some of you guys are arguing with a literal cop over this shit.

What cop?


I don't owe you any answers.

Why bring it up then?
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KingCrabCake
05/08/18 12:37:26 PM
#241:


thelovefist posted...
Kineth posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Kineth posted...
It's even more ridiculous that some of you guys are arguing with a literal cop over this shit.

What cop?


I don't owe you any answers.

Why bring it up then?

Its kineth he doesnt post to have a conversation. He posts to instigate
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cjsdowg
05/08/18 12:45:45 PM
#242:


HiddenLurker posted...
HE.
HAD.
A.
GUN.
Do you understand english?
If he wanted to kill the "kid" all he had to do is pull it out and shoot him. Getting into melee combat is a very easy way to get your gun taken from you and getting shot by your own gun.
And when the heck did I call him a hero? Just cause I am not writing bad fan fiction about Travon....


Many incidents that end in gun fire started off as physical altercations. What faction have I wrote ?
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thelovefist
05/08/18 12:47:31 PM
#243:


cjsdowg posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
HE.
HAD.
A.
GUN.
Do you understand english?
If he wanted to kill the "kid" all he had to do is pull it out and shoot him. Getting into melee combat is a very easy way to get your gun taken from you and getting shot by your own gun.
And when the heck did I call him a hero? Just cause I am not writing bad fan fiction about Travon....


Many incidents that end in gun fire started off as physical altercations. What faction have I wrote ?

Sweet Jesus will you shut the fuck up already.
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darkjedilink
05/08/18 12:54:42 PM
#244:


cjsdowg posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
HE.
HAD.
A.
GUN.
Do you understand english?
If he wanted to kill the "kid" all he had to do is pull it out and shoot him. Getting into melee combat is a very easy way to get your gun taken from you and getting shot by your own gun.
And when the heck did I call him a hero? Just cause I am not writing bad fan fiction about Travon....

Many incidents that end in gun fire started off as physical altercations. What faction have I wrote ?

How many of those physical altercations are started by the armed person as a prelude to shooting them?
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darkjedilink
05/08/18 12:55:54 PM
#245:


Kineth posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Kineth posted...
It's even more ridiculous that some of you guys are arguing with a literal cop over this shit.

What cop?

I don't owe you any answers.

Because you're lying about the Martin case, as always.
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Kineth
05/08/18 1:14:27 PM
#247:


It's cute that, since you've been backed into a corner and refuse to answer my questions, all you can do is resort to lies, libel and projection and continue to expect me to answer your questions.

Who are "you guys"?
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KingCrabCake
05/08/18 1:19:40 PM
#248:


Kineth getting rekt...must be a day that ends in y
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ImTheMacheteGuy
05/08/18 1:23:09 PM
#249:


KingCrabCake posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Spooking posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Smallville posted...
really? just for shooting at zimmerman and not hitting him? 20? There are some murderers who don't get that much

You should get 20 years at least for shooting at someone. Regardless if you even make contact

Exactly. Which is why Zimmerman should be in jail at least that long for shooting Trayvon.

Mr. Zimmerman was defending himself from a brutal attack, though. You're not suggesting victims should get jail time, are you?


I know this is your whole stick, but I will asked what I asked all other Zimmerman supporters. Prove that Martin started the fight .


If zimmerman started the fight he wouldnt have been found innocent.


I wonder which side you were on during the OJ trial...
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KingCrabCake
05/08/18 1:25:02 PM
#250:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
cjsdowg posted...
Spooking posted...
Darklit_Minuet posted...
KingCrabCake posted...
Smallville posted...
really? just for shooting at zimmerman and not hitting him? 20? There are some murderers who don't get that much

You should get 20 years at least for shooting at someone. Regardless if you even make contact

Exactly. Which is why Zimmerman should be in jail at least that long for shooting Trayvon.

Mr. Zimmerman was defending himself from a brutal attack, though. You're not suggesting victims should get jail time, are you?


I know this is your whole stick, but I will asked what I asked all other Zimmerman supporters. Prove that Martin started the fight .


If zimmerman started the fight he wouldnt have been found innocent.


I wonder which side you were on during the OJ trial...


I was on the side i wanted pizza for breakfast before school.

You know you have no argument when u compare this case to OJ
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