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IslamMD
05/07/18 4:08:49 PM
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https://www.pressherald.com/2018/05/06/sex-offenders-artwork-pulled-from-usm-show-at-lewiston-auburn-gallery/

The University of Southern Maine has removed three works by a highly regarded oil painter from a gallery on its Lewiston-Auburn campus after learning that the artist is a sex offender, a decision that has prompted objections from the shows curator and the Union of Maine Visual Artists. The paintings are by Bruce Habowski of Waterville, who was convicted of unlawful sexual contact in 1999 and served six months in jail. The shows curator, Janice L. Moore, said they were removed when a relative of a victim in the sex crime called the university to complain. Where the paintings once hung are now empty hooks and open white wall space with a signed note from Moore that says, This painting has been removed by order of the USM president. The universitys communications department issued a statement that said: USM received a complaint from a member of the public. The complaint was not about the content of the art, but about the artist. After careful review, USM decided to remove his works from the exhibit.

The removal of the art raises questions about free expression, community standards and tolerance, the public display of art and censorship, and comes during a national discussion about the value of art versus the character of its creator. That discussion has been framed by the #MeToo movement and revelations of bad behavior by prominent filmmakers, painters, maestros and musicians. This week, the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences expelled convicted sex offenders Bill Cosby and Roman Polanski from its membership, citing a violation of ethical standards.Timothy Rhys, editor-in-chief of California-based MovieMaker magazine and a part-time Maine resident, said the issue is layered and complex. Ultimately, he said, we as a society should judge artists based on the work they create and not how they conduct their lives.

By removing these works of art they are not censoring the art but they are censoring the artist because of who he offends. The definition of censorship is removing something because its offensive, but whos it offensive to? This person paid his debt. He doesnt owe anything to society anymore, Rhys said. Art does and should transcend the private behavior of the artist. We really need to come to grips that we are not going to all have the same opinion of the person. If there needs to be a judgment, lets judge the art.

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UnfairRepresent
05/07/18 4:10:40 PM
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That's fucking stupid

The art didn't offend any sex, the guy did.

That would be like if we discoverd Alexander Flemming was a pedophile and so stopped using penicillin.

Also why make this topic twice?
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MangaFan462
05/07/18 4:12:05 PM
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05/07/18 4:12:22 PM
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IslamMD
05/07/18 4:16:48 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
Also why make this topic twice?


I deleted other made typo.
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spudger
05/07/18 4:17:47 PM
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20 yr old crime ppl relax
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DundiesAward
05/07/18 4:18:04 PM
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The painter did the jail time and wants to show art. Do we as a society believe in rehabilitation or lifetime stigma?

I'm leaning toward lifetime stigma. Murderers don't even get this treatment.
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JE19426
05/07/18 4:18:12 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
That would be like if we discoverd Alexander Flemming was a pedophile and so stopped using penicillin.


No, it's not. This is dumb even for you. Art and medicine are total different things.
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Questionmarktarius
05/07/18 4:19:38 PM
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IslamMD posted...
The removal of the art raises questions about free expression, community standards and tolerance, the public display of art and censorship, and comes during a national discussion about the value of art versus the character of its creator.

Seems pretty obvious to me that whoever owns the wall gets to decide what art is displayed on it.

The important part is that the art is sold, given away, or at at least warehoused, rather than destroyed.
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UnfairRepresent
05/07/18 4:19:47 PM
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JE19426 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
That would be like if we discoverd Alexander Flemming was a pedophile and so stopped using penicillin.


No, it's not. This is dumb even for you. Art and medicine are total different things.

The prinicpal is the same, removing the work and the benefits of the work because the guy who made it is an undesirable is madness.
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AlabamaLove
05/07/18 4:20:40 PM
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AlabamaLove
05/07/18 4:21:15 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
JE19426 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
That would be like if we discoverd Alexander Flemming was a pedophile and so stopped using penicillin.


No, it's not. This is dumb even for you. Art and medicine are total different things.

The prinicpal is the same, removing the work and the benefits of the work because the guy who made it is an undesirable is madness.

the benefits? lol it's art, not life saving medicine.
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Questionmarktarius
05/07/18 4:24:28 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
JE19426 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
That would be like if we discoverd Alexander Flemming was a pedophile and so stopped using penicillin.


No, it's not. This is dumb even for you. Art and medicine are total different things.

The prinicpal is the same, removing the work and the benefits of the work because the guy who made it is an undesirable is madness.

It would suck to be Volkswagen...
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JE19426
05/07/18 4:24:46 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
The prinicpal is the same


And applying the same principles to totally different scenarios is ludicrous. It's like if someone argued you shouldn't punch people you don't like for no reason, and you argued that means they shouldn't punch anyone for any reason at all.
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CartmanMustDie
05/07/18 4:27:02 PM
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Questionmarktarius posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
JE19426 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
That would be like if we discoverd Alexander Flemming was a pedophile and so stopped using penicillin.


No, it's not. This is dumb even for you. Art and medicine are total different things.

The prinicpal is the same, removing the work and the benefits of the work because the guy who made it is an undesirable is madness.

It would suck to be Volkswagen...


lol he isn't creating shit
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ultimate reaver
05/07/18 4:32:23 PM
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CartmanMustDie posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
JE19426 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
That would be like if we discoverd Alexander Flemming was a pedophile and so stopped using penicillin.


No, it's not. This is dumb even for you. Art and medicine are total different things.

The prinicpal is the same, removing the work and the benefits of the work because the guy who made it is an undesirable is madness.

It would suck to be Volkswagen...


lol he isn't creating shit


I think he's trying to draw a comparison to Volkswagen making cars for Nazi Germany
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Maeiv
05/07/18 4:34:09 PM
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Reminds me of the whole Kony thing
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Questionmarktarius
05/07/18 4:34:33 PM
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ultimate reaver posted...
CartmanMustDie posted...
Questionmarktarius posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
JE19426 posted...
UnfairRepresent posted...
That would be like if we discoverd Alexander Flemming was a pedophile and so stopped using penicillin.


No, it's not. This is dumb even for you. Art and medicine are total different things.

The prinicpal is the same, removing the work and the benefits of the work because the guy who made it is an undesirable is madness.

It would suck to be Volkswagen...


lol he isn't creating shit


I think he's trying to draw a comparison to Volkswagen making cars for Nazi Germany

The company was started by literally Hitler.
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Hexenherz
05/07/18 4:37:13 PM
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BettyB0op08 posted...
The majority of past creators were pedophiles. As well as racists, homophobes, anti-semites and just generally bad people when seen in the present light.


Yeah it's kind of a weird thing to try to bring up.

Like Toulouse-Lautrec was a raging alcohol and regularly hired prostitutes, guess we should stop teaching his artwork in schools right?
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SuperMariano3
05/07/18 5:51:43 PM
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Maeiv posted...
Reminds me of the whole Kony thing


lol I totally forgot about that guy. Did he ever recover from jerking it in San Diego
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DarkTransient
05/07/18 5:52:41 PM
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If the exhibition is a private one, fair next.

If it's a public one, fuck that shit, first amendment and what not.
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IslamMD
05/07/18 6:18:40 PM
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DarkTransient posted...
If the exhibition is a private one, fair next.

If it's a public one, fuck that shit, first amendment and what not.


It is a public one with the goal of representing contemporary Maine artists working in all media.
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Kurumiee
05/09/18 6:43:50 AM
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Do bad things and face the consequences. I am in favour of the woman.
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Smashingpmkns
05/09/18 2:26:16 PM
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Weird how the same people calling SJW here are for the most part against Roman Polanski, and will call out Hollywood's support for Roman Polanski.

That being said, I'm for both the curator making this decision and for Roman Polanski being exiled from the film industry.
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refmon
05/09/18 2:26:46 PM
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UnfairRepresent posted...
That's fucking stupid

The art didn't offend any sex, the guy did.

That would be like if we discoverd Alexander Flemming was a pedophile and so stopped using penicillin.

Also why make this topic twice?

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hollow_shrine
05/09/18 2:29:57 PM
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Smashingpmkns posted...
Weird how the same people calling SJW here are for the most part against Roman Polanski, and will call out Hollywood's support for Roman Polanski.

That being said, I'm for both the curator making this decision and for Roman Polanski being exiled from the film industry.

Same. The curator doesn't want to be seen as supporting this artist directly or tacitly. This is their choice.
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spikethedevil
05/11/18 4:09:26 AM
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McgeesAlice808 posted...
Kurumiee posted...
Do bad things and face the consequences. I am in favour of the woman.

Are you British?


What has where he's from got to do with anything?
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Irony
05/13/18 6:52:16 AM
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Every artist during the renaissance was a racist pedo
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