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Smallville 05/05/18 11:36:45 AM #51:	SomeonesAlt posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... wackyteen posted... What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway??? Don't you support Trump, lmao? you think trump would support this iowa law? iirc he is extremely very pro life --- "I've always wanted there to be nothing between us. Now there's not"----smallville <cite>Smallville posted [p:900838045] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeonesAlt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote>What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting</quote> Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway???</quote> Don't you support Trump, lmao?</quote> you think trump would support this iowa law? iirc he is extremely very pro life</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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UnfairRepresent 05/05/18 11:37:34 AM #53:	Asherlee10 posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... wackyteen posted... What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway??? This has been and always will be a weak argument viewpoint. 1. We have piss-poor sexual education in the U.S. 2. Contraceptives are not 100% infallible 3. Abortion is a way to take responsibility, especially if it is an unwanted child or the couple cannot afford a child or there is a risk of developmental issues from genetic or a myriad of other reasons. Not to mention rape or health issues. Kinda harsh to scream personal responsibility at a rape victim --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:900838070] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote>What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting</quote> Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway???</quote> This has been and always will be a weak argument viewpoint. 1. We have piss-poor sexual education in the U.S. 2. Contraceptives are not 100% infallible 3. Abortion is a way to take responsibility, especially if it is an unwanted child or the couple cannot afford a child or there is a risk of developmental issues from genetic or a myriad of other reasons.</quote> Not to mention rape or health issues. Kinda harsh to scream personal responsibility at a rape victim</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SomeonesAlt 05/05/18 11:38:37 AM #55:	Smallville posted... SomeonesAlt posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... wackyteen posted... What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway??? Don't you support Trump, lmao? you think trump would support this iowa law? iirc he is extremely very pro life I meant the irony of Trump supporters talking about personal responsibility while supporting the opposite of it is hilarious. Trump also very well may have paid one of his women to have an abortion. Details are still coming out. --- But Whose? <cite>SomeonesAlt posted [p:900838101] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smallville posted...</cite> <quote><cite>SomeonesAlt posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote>What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting</quote> Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway???</quote> Don't you support Trump, lmao?</quote> you think trump would support this iowa law? iirc he is extremely very pro life</quote> I meant the irony of Trump supporters talking about personal responsibility while supporting the opposite of it is hilarious. Trump also very well may have paid one of his women to have an abortion. Details are still coming out.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
daftpunk_mk5 05/05/18 11:38:55 AM #56:	hockeybub89 posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway??? Getting an abortion when you can't support a baby, whose birth would hurt the lives of you, the future child, and society at large. Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it. --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:900838119] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote>What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway???</quote> Getting an abortion when you can't support a baby, whose birth would hurt the lives of you, the future child, and society at large.</quote> Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Lordgold666 05/05/18 11:39:19 AM #57:	We have enough children with one or no parents, so if somebody is smart enough to realise they cant raise a child for whatever reason, they should be able to abort --- Xbox GT: l0rdg0ld666 \| 3DS FC: 1848-2391-0198 [LXGC] - Lethal Xbox Gaming crew <cite>Lordgold666 posted [p:900838138] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote>We have enough children with one or no parents, so if somebody is smart enough to realise they cant raise a child for whatever reason, they should be able to abort</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/05/18 11:39:46 AM #58:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... wackyteen posted... What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway??? The idea that a teenager might have to go to a grocery store or pharmacy and pay the less than $1 per condom price out of their own pocket is frightening to leftists. The view teenagers who have unprotected sex and get pregnant as poor innocent victims, who would have behaved completely responsible if only someone else had paid for their condoms. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:900838156] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote>What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting</quote> Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway???</quote> The idea that a teenager might have to go to a grocery store or pharmacy and pay the less than $1 per condom price out of their own pocket is frightening to leftists. The view teenagers who have unprotected sex and get pregnant as poor innocent victims, who would have behaved completely responsible if only someone else had paid for their condoms.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/05/18 11:39:55 AM #59:	UnfairRepresent posted... Not to mention rape or health issues. Kinda harsh to scream personal responsibility at a rape victim Should've had the personal responsibility to carry a gun so you could shoot the rapist! /s Oh what if he overpowers you? Should have taken the personal responsibility to work out all the time and work on your reflexes so if he tries to overpower you he can't and if he tries to knock the gun out of your hand, he can't. /s there's probably somebody out there that believes this --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:900838160] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> Not to mention rape or health issues. Kinda harsh to scream personal responsibility at a rape victim</quote> Should've had the personal responsibility to carry a gun so you could shoot the rapist! /s Oh what if he overpowers you? Should have taken the personal responsibility to work out all the time and work on your reflexes so if he tries to overpower you he can't and if he tries to knock the gun out of your hand, he can't. /s there's probably somebody out there that believes this</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smallville 05/05/18 11:40:02 AM #60:	Asherlee10 posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... wackyteen posted... What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway??? This has been and always will be a weak argument viewpoint. 1. We have piss-poor sexual education in the U.S. 2. Contraceptives are not 100% infallible 3. Abortion is a way to take responsibility, especially if it is an unwanted child or the couple cannot afford a child or there is a risk of developmental issues from genetic or a myriad of other reasons. excellent post ash couldn't have said it better myself, but many pro birth people think they do have excellent arguments for banning abortion. --- "I've always wanted there to be nothing between us. Now there's not"----smallville <cite>Smallville posted [p:900838162] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote>What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting</quote> Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway???</quote> This has been and always will be a weak argument viewpoint. 1. We have piss-poor sexual education in the U.S. 2. Contraceptives are not 100% infallible 3. Abortion is a way to take responsibility, especially if it is an unwanted child or the couple cannot afford a child or there is a risk of developmental issues from genetic or a myriad of other reasons.</quote> excellent post ash couldn't have said it better myself, but many pro birth people think they do have excellent arguments for banning abortion.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/05/18 11:41:00 AM #61:	DifferentialEquation posted... The idea that a teenager might have to go to a grocery store or pharmacy and pay the less than $1 per condom price out of their own pocket is frightening to leftists. The view teenagers who have unprotected sex and get pregnant as poor innocent victims, who would have behaved completely responsible if only someone else had paid for their condoms. I'd say this is one of the most DE posts to ever DE post but i dunno anymore. --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:900838196] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote> The idea that a teenager might have to go to a grocery store or pharmacy and pay the less than $1 per condom price out of their own pocket is frightening to leftists. The view teenagers who have unprotected sex and get pregnant as poor innocent victims, who would have behaved completely responsible if only someone else had paid for their condoms.</quote> I'd say this is one of the most DE posts to ever DE post but i dunno anymore.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smallville 05/05/18 11:42:30 AM #63:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... hockeybub89 posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway??? Getting an abortion when you can't support a baby, whose birth would hurt the lives of you, the future child, and society at large. Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it. there are many thousands of kids languishing in the u.s. waiting to be adopted, why do many pro birthers bring this up so often? --- "I've always wanted there to be nothing between us. Now there's not"----smallville <cite>Smallville posted [p:900838251] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote>What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway???</quote> Getting an abortion when you can't support a baby, whose birth would hurt the lives of you, the future child, and society at large.</quote> Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it.</quote> there are many thousands of kids languishing in the u.s. waiting to be adopted, why do many pro birthers bring this up so often?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/05/18 11:42:41 AM #64:	DifferentialEquation posted... The idea that a teenager might have to go to a grocery store or pharmacy and pay the less than $1 per condom price out of their own pocket is frightening to leftists. The view teenagers who have unprotected sex and get pregnant as poor innocent victims, who would have behaved completely responsible if only someone else had paid for their condoms. This argument falls flat when it's leftists who are calling for sex ed and the right who is aggressively opposing them. Not to mention the costs of unwanted babies far exceeding the costs of cheap contraceptives. This is an argument you really cant win with "Damn liberals!" The highest rates of unwanted teen pregnany occur in right wing neighborhoods with shitty sex ed. Time and time again. Kids are gonna fuck. There's no way around it, so tell them to wrap up and make it easy to do so. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:900838259] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote> The idea that a teenager might have to go to a grocery store or pharmacy and pay the less than $1 per condom price out of their own pocket is frightening to leftists. The view teenagers who have unprotected sex and get pregnant as poor innocent victims, who would have behaved completely responsible if only someone else had paid for their condoms.</quote> This argument falls flat when it's leftists who are calling for sex ed and the right who is aggressively opposing them. Not to mention the costs of unwanted babies far exceeding the costs of cheap contraceptives. This is an argument you really cant win with "Damn liberals!" The highest rates of unwanted teen pregnany occur in right wing neighborhoods with shitty sex ed. Time and time again. Kids are gonna fuck. There's no way around it, so tell them to wrap up and make it easy to do so.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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wackyteen 05/05/18 11:43:03 AM #66:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it. Gee if only it were that easy to get a child into another family's arms. Gee if only it were that easy to give away your own flesh and blood --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:900838274] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it.</quote> Gee if only it were that easy to get a child into another family's arms. Gee if only it were that easy to give away your own flesh and blood</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
daftpunk_mk5 05/05/18 11:43:31 AM #67:	wackyteen posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Not to mention rape or health issues. Kinda harsh to scream personal responsibility at a rape victim Should've had the personal responsibility to carry a gun so you could shoot the rapist! /s Oh what if he overpowers you? Should have taken the personal responsibility to work out all the time and work on your reflexes so if he tries to overpower you he can't and if he tries to knock the gun out of your hand, he can't. /s there's probably somebody out there that believes this Its called contingency planning. Sex always has a nonzero chance of pregnancy. If you aren't in a situation where you can support a baby, don't have sex. And yes, if you live in a shitty neighborhood, you should take precautions, including carrying a weapon if possible. --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:900838291] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> Not to mention rape or health issues. Kinda harsh to scream personal responsibility at a rape victim</quote> Should've had the personal responsibility to carry a gun so you could shoot the rapist! /s Oh what if he overpowers you? Should have taken the personal responsibility to work out all the time and work on your reflexes so if he tries to overpower you he can't and if he tries to knock the gun out of your hand, he can't. /s there's probably somebody out there that believes this</quote> Its called contingency planning. Sex always has a nonzero chance of pregnancy. If you aren't in a situation where you can support a baby, don't have sex. And yes, if you live in a shitty neighborhood, you should take precautions, including carrying a weapon if possible.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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daftpunk_mk5 05/05/18 11:44:26 AM #69:	wackyteen posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it. Gee if only it were that easy to get a child into another family's arms. Gee if only it were that easy to give away your own flesh and blood You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead. --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:900838332] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it.</quote> Gee if only it were that easy to get a child into another family's arms. Gee if only it were that easy to give away your own flesh and blood</quote> You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/05/18 11:44:28 AM #70:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it. Yeah it's a real pisser that the religious right won't let gay couples adopt and put thousands of orphaned children into a happy home. --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:900838334] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it.</quote> Yeah it's a real pisser that the religious right won't let gay couples adopt and put thousands of orphaned children into a happy home.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/05/18 11:45:17 AM #71:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... hockeybub89 posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway??? Getting an abortion when you can't support a baby, whose birth would hurt the lives of you, the future child, and society at large. Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it. Is this why conservative states also don't want gay couples to adopt? Is this why shitty foster homes and orphanages don't exist? Because everyone is adopted? A fetus can pull itself up by its bootstraps and will itself into existence and development outside of someone else's body if it wants to live so bad and not be bound to the bodily autonomy of its host. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:900838368] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote>What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway???</quote> Getting an abortion when you can't support a baby, whose birth would hurt the lives of you, the future child, and society at large.</quote> Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it.</quote> Is this why conservative states also don't want gay couples to adopt? Is this why shitty foster homes and orphanages don't exist? Because everyone is adopted? A fetus can pull itself up by its bootstraps and will itself into existence and development outside of someone else's body if it wants to live so bad and not be bound to the bodily autonomy of its host.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Smallville 05/05/18 11:48:43 AM #73:	Asherlee10 posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... wackyteen posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it. Gee if only it were that easy to get a child into another family's arms. Gee if only it were that easy to give away your own flesh and blood You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead. 4/4 on shitty viewpoints. You need to do some reading up on this. geez you think most americans do share his bad pro life stance? i have read before that the majority of americans do believe that abortion is murder. --- "I've always wanted there to be nothing between us. Now there's not"----smallville <cite>Smallville posted [p:900838501] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>Asherlee10 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it.</quote> Gee if only it were that easy to get a child into another family's arms. Gee if only it were that easy to give away your own flesh and blood</quote> You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead.</quote> 4/4 on shitty viewpoints. You need to do some reading up on this.</quote> geez you think most americans do share his bad pro life stance? i have read before that the majority of americans do believe that abortion is murder.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/05/18 11:48:52 AM #74:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead. Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:900838508] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead.</quote> Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/05/18 11:49:48 AM #75:	wackyteen posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it. Gee if only it were that easy to get a child into another family's arms. Gee if only it were that easy to give away your own flesh and blood It is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe-haven_law By 2008, all 50 states had a form of safe-haven law. You're allowed to dump your unwanted baby off at safe locations. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:900838539] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it.</quote> Gee if only it were that easy to get a child into another family's arms. Gee if only it were that easy to give away your own flesh and blood</quote> It is: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safe-haven_law <quote>By 2008, all 50 states had a form of safe-haven law.</quote> You're allowed to dump your unwanted baby off at safe locations.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/05/18 11:49:48 AM #76:	Smallville posted... geez you think most americans do share his bad pro life stance? i have read before that the majority of americans do believe that abortion is murder. With enough time and effort you could get most Americans to believe that a child doesn't have a soul til it is baptized by the Church <_< --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:900838541] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>Smallville posted...</cite> <quote> geez you think most americans do share his bad pro life stance? i have read before that the majority of americans do believe that abortion is murder.</quote> With enough time and effort you could get most Americans to believe that a child doesn't have a soul til it is baptized by the Church <_<</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smallville 05/05/18 11:49:55 AM #77:	wackyteen posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead. Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term yeah no shit, many pro life people do support this, taking away as much of that shit as they can --- "I've always wanted there to be nothing between us. Now there's not"----smallville <cite>Smallville posted [p:900838546] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead.</quote> Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term</quote> yeah no shit, many pro life people do support this, taking away as much of that shit as they can</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/05/18 11:50:29 AM #78:	wackyteen posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead. Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term No, you see, they only care about as many humans as possible existing. After that, a lot of people suddenly believe in Darwinism. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:900838571] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead.</quote> Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term</quote> No, you see, they only care about as many humans as possible existing. After that, a lot of people suddenly believe in Darwinism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/05/18 11:50:52 AM #79:	DifferentialEquation posted... You're allowed to dump your unwanted baby off at safe locations. So you believe the government should impose increased taxes so it can afford to take care of all these unwanted babies? Glad to see you support a left viewpoint DE --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:900838580] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote> You're allowed to dump your unwanted baby off at safe locations.</quote> So you believe the government should impose increased taxes so it can afford to take care of all these unwanted babies? Glad to see you support a left viewpoint DE</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
daftpunk_mk5 05/05/18 11:52:01 AM #80:	wackyteen posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead. Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term I cooked breakfast at a homeless shelter this morning. You? --- Some say that his voice can only be heard by cats, and that he has two sets of knees... all we know is, he's called the Stig. <cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted [p:900838623] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead.</quote> Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term</quote> I cooked breakfast at a homeless shelter this morning. You?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/05/18 11:54:02 AM #81:	wackyteen posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead. Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term Defending the right to life doesn't mean you have to defend the "right" to free stuff. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:900838692] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead.</quote> Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term</quote> Defending the right to life doesn't mean you have to defend the "right" to free stuff.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
JE19426 05/05/18 11:54:57 AM #82:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it. You can't own a child, and it's pretty disgusting that some people want to. <cite>JE19426 posted [p:900838725] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote>Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it. </quote> You can't own a child, and it's pretty disgusting that some people want to.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
hockeybub89 05/05/18 11:55:17 AM #83:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... wackyteen posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead. Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term I cooked breakfast at a homeless shelter this morning. You? Why are there homeless shelters? Surely there are loving families that could bring these people into their homes. --- http://card.psnprofiles.com/1/NIR_Hockey.png http://www.last.fm/user/hockeybub89/ <cite>hockeybub89 posted [p:900838731] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead.</quote> Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term</quote> I cooked breakfast at a homeless shelter this morning. You?</quote> Why are there homeless shelters? Surely there are loving families that could bring these people into their homes.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Punctus_Pilot 05/05/18 11:55:35 AM #84:	Iowa is a waste. <cite>Punctus_Pilot posted [p:900838745] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote>Iowa is a waste.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/05/18 11:55:40 AM #85:	wackyteen posted... DifferentialEquation posted... You're allowed to dump your unwanted baby off at safe locations. So you believe the government should impose increased taxes so it can afford to take care of all these unwanted babies? Glad to see you support a left viewpoint DE I'm merely pointing out that the laws exist. I never said that I supported it. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:900838749] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote> You're allowed to dump your unwanted baby off at safe locations.</quote> So you believe the government should impose increased taxes so it can afford to take care of all these unwanted babies? Glad to see you support a left viewpoint DE</quote> I'm merely pointing out that the laws exist. I never said that I supported it.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Smallville 05/05/18 11:55:50 AM #86:	hockeybub89 posted... wackyteen posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead. Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term No, you see, they only care about as many humans as possible existing. After that, a lot of people suddenly believe in Darwinism. i have heard a monologue that george carlin made before about many pro life people seeing these kids as potential soldiers. "They don't give a shit about you, but once you reach draft age you're just what they're looking for" --- "I've always wanted there to be nothing between us. Now there's not"----smallville <cite>Smallville posted [p:900838758] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>hockeybub89 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead.</quote> Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term</quote> No, you see, they only care about as many humans as possible existing. After that, a lot of people suddenly believe in Darwinism.</quote> i have heard a monologue that george carlin made before about many pro life people seeing these kids as potential soldiers. "They don't give a shit about you, but once you reach draft age you're just what they're looking for"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/05/18 12:01:36 PM #87:	DifferentialEquation posted... I'm merely pointing out that the laws exist. I never said that I supported it. so the child should suffer at the hands of poor and inept parents that can't properly take care of their child? --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:900838962] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote> I'm merely pointing out that the laws exist. I never said that I supported it.</quote> so the child should suffer at the hands of poor and inept parents that can't properly take care of their child?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
DifferentialEquation 05/05/18 12:04:59 PM #88:	wackyteen posted... DifferentialEquation posted... I'm merely pointing out that the laws exist. I never said that I supported it. so the child should suffer at the hands of poor and inept parents that can't properly take care of their child? There should be harsh punishments for people that have kids that they can't take care of, with capital punishment potentially being an option for repeat offenders. Birth control pills should also be made easier to purchase. There's no reason that women shouldn't be able to just purchase them over the counter. --- There's no business to be taxed. <cite>DifferentialEquation posted [p:900839070] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote> I'm merely pointing out that the laws exist. I never said that I supported it.</quote> so the child should suffer at the hands of poor and inept parents that can't properly take care of their child?</quote> There should be harsh punishments for people that have kids that they can't take care of, with capital punishment potentially being an option for repeat offenders. Birth control pills should also be made easier to purchase. There's no reason that women shouldn't be able to just purchase them over the counter.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/05/18 12:07:49 PM #89:	DifferentialEquation posted... There should be harsh punishments for people that have kids that they can't take care of, with capital punishment potentially being an option for repeat offenders. The fuck? --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:900839187] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote> There should be harsh punishments for people that have kids that they can't take care of, with capital punishment potentially being an option for repeat offenders.</quote> The fuck?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
TheVipaGTS 05/05/18 12:10:27 PM #90:	UnfairRepresent posted... Sex outside of marriage for the purpose of recreation is believed to be a sin among many if not most Judeo-Christian/God of Abraham religions. well then it sounds like its THEIR religion and not mine. go ahead and follow it, don't have sex outside of marriage if YOU want...don't force your religious beliefs on others. --- Dallas Cowboys: 1 - 1 <cite>TheVipaGTS posted [p:900839281] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote>Sex outside of marriage for the purpose of recreation is believed to be a sin among many if not most Judeo-Christian/God of Abraham religions. </quote> well then it sounds like its THEIR religion and not mine. go ahead and follow it, don't have sex outside of marriage if YOU want...don't force your religious beliefs on others.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 05/05/18 12:10:45 PM #91:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... wackyteen posted... What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway??? Explain yourself --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:900839294] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote>What I don't get it is why these red states all want sex to be this... punishment. On top of that they don't want to tell anybody about sex. They don't want to educate. They sure as hell don't want to provide contraception (to teens). They want to punish you for the strongest, deepest set driving force your body knows (the urge to reproduce and pass on your traits). It's disgusting</quote> Sex can lead to pregnancy??? Who knew??? What the fuck is personal responsibility anyway???</quote> Explain yourself</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/05/18 12:12:09 PM #92:	DifferentialEquation posted... There should be harsh punishments for people that have kids that they can't take care of, with capital punishment potentially being an option for repeat offenders. alright here's a contender for the most DE post to ever DE post --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:900839343] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>DifferentialEquation posted...</cite> <quote> There should be harsh punishments for people that have kids that they can't take care of, with capital punishment potentially being an option for repeat offenders. </quote> alright here's a contender for the most DE post to ever DE post</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 05/05/18 12:12:19 PM #93:	Hopefully more states will follow suit. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:900839347] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote>Hopefully more states will follow suit.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
jborgan 05/05/18 12:12:55 PM #94:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... wackyteen posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it. Gee if only it were that easy to get a child into another family's arms. Gee if only it were that easy to give away your own flesh and blood You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead. No. --- http://www.last.fm/user/jborgan <cite>jborgan posted [p:900839362] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> Gee if only there were a process for transferring ownership of a baby to a couple with the desire and means to raise it.</quote> Gee if only it were that easy to get a child into another family's arms. Gee if only it were that easy to give away your own flesh and blood</quote> You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead.</quote> No.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 05/05/18 12:13:47 PM #95:	wackyteen posted... UnfairRepresent posted... Not to mention rape or health issues. Kinda harsh to scream personal responsibility at a rape victim Should've had the personal responsibility to carry a gun so you could shoot the rapist! /s Oh what if he overpowers you? Should have taken the personal responsibility to work out all the time and work on your reflexes so if he tries to overpower you he can't and if he tries to knock the gun out of your hand, he can't. /s there's probably somebody out there that believes this Actually, the user who posted just above you probably does. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:900839390] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>UnfairRepresent posted...</cite> <quote> Not to mention rape or health issues. Kinda harsh to scream personal responsibility at a rape victim</quote> Should've had the personal responsibility to carry a gun so you could shoot the rapist! /s Oh what if he overpowers you? Should have taken the personal responsibility to work out all the time and work on your reflexes so if he tries to overpower you he can't and if he tries to knock the gun out of your hand, he can't. /s there's probably somebody out there that believes this</quote> Actually, the user who posted just above you probably does.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
tennisdude818 05/05/18 12:14:15 PM #96:	My body, my choice, your wallet feminists: You should either be forced to pay for my abortions and birth control, or you should be forced to pay my bills after I give birth. --- "I have never understood why it is greed to want to keep the money you have earned but not greed to want to take somebody else's money." Thomas Sowell <cite>tennisdude818 posted [p:900839404] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote>My body, my choice, your wallet feminists: You should either be forced to pay for my abortions and birth control, or you should be forced to pay my bills after I give birth.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
UnfairRepresent 05/05/18 12:17:18 PM #97:	tennisdude818 posted... My body, my choice, your wallet feminists: You should either be forced to pay for my abortions and birth control, or you should be forced to pay my bills after I give birth. It'll cost tax payers more to have more unwanted babies and miserable parents than it will to have legal abortions dude --- ^ Hey now that's completely unfair. https://imgtc.com/i/14JHfrt.jpg <cite>UnfairRepresent posted [p:900839519] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>My body, my choice, your wallet feminists: You should either be forced to pay for my abortions and birth control, or you should be forced to pay my bills after I give birth.</quote> It'll cost tax payers more to have more unwanted babies and miserable parents than it will to have legal abortions dude</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
wackyteen 05/05/18 12:18:05 PM #98:	tennisdude818 posted... My body, my choice, your wallet feminists: You should either be forced to pay for my abortions and birth control, or you should be forced to pay my bills after I give birth. Conservatives: "not your body, not your choice, but your wallet" --- The name is wackyteen* for a reason. Never doubt. *No longer teen <cite>wackyteen posted [p:900839540] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>My body, my choice, your wallet feminists: You should either be forced to pay for my abortions and birth control, or you should be forced to pay my bills after I give birth.</quote> Conservatives: "not your body, not your choice, but your wallet"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ImTheMacheteGuy 05/05/18 12:19:18 PM #99:	daftpunk_mk5 posted... wackyteen posted... daftpunk_mk5 posted... You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead. Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term I cooked breakfast at a homeless shelter this morning. Proof? --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ <cite>ImTheMacheteGuy posted [p:900839587] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>wackyteen posted...</cite> <quote><cite>daftpunk_mk5 posted...</cite> <quote> You're right, better to pretend it isn't a human being to justify murdering it instead.</quote> Gee I sure do hope you support programs that help the homeless and hungry and poor and unfortunate If not your "they're a human" argument really doesn't hold much water if you're just going to make a woman carry a child to term</quote> I cooked breakfast at a homeless shelter this morning.</quote> Proof?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SomeonesAlt 05/05/18 12:19:56 PM #100:	tennisdude818 posted... My body, my choice, your wallet feminists: You should either be forced to pay for my abortions and birth control, or you should be forced to pay my bills after I give birth. So you have no problem with abortion itself, just having it paid for by taxes? --- But Whose? <cite>SomeonesAlt posted [p:900839618] in Iowa gover... [t:76580265]...</cite> <quote><cite>tennisdude818 posted...</cite> <quote>My body, my choice, your wallet feminists: You should either be forced to pay for my abortions and birth control, or you should be forced to pay my bills after I give birth.</quote> So you have no problem with abortion itself, just having it paid for by taxes?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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