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refmon
05/03/18 2:04:29 PM
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Thanos literally uses the combined power of all 6 stones to shoot an energy beam at Thor. Thor then just easily out powers it.
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Doom_Art
05/03/18 2:07:33 PM
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1. Odin is dead. Thor is his last living child. He probably possesses the Odinforce or Skyfather powers or whatever the fuck they're calling it in the MCU

2. Thor unlocked his potential in Ragnarok

3. Stormbreaker like Mew Mew probably helps focus his power
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Medussa
05/03/18 2:08:09 PM
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RIP Mew Mew
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refmon
05/03/18 11:39:38 PM
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Doom_Art posted...
1. Odin is dead. Thor is his last living child. He probably possesses the Odinforce or Skyfather powers or whatever the fuck they're calling it in the MCU

2. Thor unlocked his potential in Ragnarok

3. Stormbreaker like Mew Mew probably helps focus his power

I thought the stones were supposed to be strongest things in the universe, especially all of them in one glove.
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tremain07
05/03/18 11:41:37 PM
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unlocked his potential? What is he,Gohan?
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pikachupwnage
05/03/18 11:42:37 PM
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In Ragnarok he unlocked more of his power.

Also the weapon he used is Magical( can summon the bifrost) and literally forged from the strongest material in the universe. So strong it takes a STARs power being focused on it to melt it for forging. Made of the same material as the infinity gauntlet and anything that can contain all six infinity stones and aid in channeling their power has to be absurdly durable. And perhaps it was warping away some of the blast with bifrost?

And if you want to get into theory territory its possible he inherited the Odinforce when Odin died and didnt realize it or something(maybe thats how he was having visions of Odin in Ragnarok?)
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Tyranthraxus
05/03/18 11:46:53 PM
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Okay so now instead of just half the universe dead everyone is dead.

Much improved.
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pikachupwnage
05/03/18 11:54:59 PM
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Goats posted...
Friendly Reminder that the rightful queen of Asgard would have smashed into Thanos when he was least prepared, wrecked his fleet with a giant fucking wolf and an army of Draugr while wielding Odin's spear and the space stone. Even with Thor's power up he was still losing.

By not bowing to his sister (who was the rightful queen) and instead fracturing Asgard in a civil war, Thor directly enabled Thanos in his quest. And to argue that nobody knew about Thanos is pretty lol. Asgard knew when an ice giant farted and Thanos had a MASSIVE FLEET that was laying waste to ENTIRE WORLDS. Some rock people rebel in Thor throw a tantrum and he ends their rebellion in a heartbeat.

Thor and Loki doomed the entire galaxy.


Gonna Guess Thanos wouldve bodied Asgard.

Dude was able to Invade Xandar successfully(with no stones), and defeat the remaining Asgardians and still had plenty left to send hundreds of thousands to invade Wakanda.

Given the fact that his flagship is still around and he is said to have the largest army in the universe...he probably had plenty of Chitauri and other forces around at the time of Odins rule.

Besides Hela is strong but Thanos likely wouldve had the power Stone by the time she fought him(maybe more) so she wouldve lost.

Asgard is strong but they arent a massive army. They rely mostly on Thor and their advanced magitech/advanced abilities.

Also Hela May have been worse than Thanos. Hela delighted in Conquest, destruction and killing and had access to Bifrost...

Thanos just wanted to wipe out half the universe and was content with that.
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monkeysRfunny
05/04/18 12:02:07 AM
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He ate his spinach
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Muffinz0rz
05/04/18 12:51:41 AM
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Goats posted...
Friendly Reminder that the rightful queen of Asgard would have smashed into Thanos when he was least prepared, wrecked his fleet with a giant fucking wolf and an army of Draugr while wielding Odin's spear and the space stone. Even with Thor's power up he was still losing.

By not bowing to his sister (who was the rightful queen) and instead fracturing Asgard in a civil war, Thor directly enabled Thanos in his quest. And to argue that nobody knew about Thanos is pretty lol. Asgard knew when an ice giant farted and Thanos had a MASSIVE FLEET that was laying waste to ENTIRE WORLDS. Some rock people rebel in Thor throw a tantrum and he ends their rebellion in a heartbeat.

Thor and Loki doomed the entire galaxy.

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Darmik
05/04/18 12:57:06 AM
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Wasn't Ragnarok always going to destroy Asgard though? It was a prophecy.
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Tyranthraxus
05/04/18 1:00:01 AM
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Darmik posted...
Wasn't Ragnarok always going to destroy Asgard though? It was a prophecy.

Eh. I mean he still had a choice.

He could have walked away and let Asgard become under Hela's complete control. Doesn't make for a good story but it hardly seemed deterministic.

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Darkinsanity1
05/04/18 1:28:11 AM
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The way I rationalized it is that sure the Infinity Gauntlet with all 6 stones is nearly all powerful and unstoppable. But it's also limited by the creativity and choices made by the wearer. And in this instance Thanos chose to answer Thor's attack with a straightforward energy beam which Stormbreaker happens to be able to get through.

But Thanos could have responded in any number of ways with the gauntlet that would likely have worked.
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Muffinz0rz
05/04/18 10:23:03 AM
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Darkinsanity1 posted...
The way I rationalized it is that sure the Infinity Gauntlet with all 6 stones is nearly all powerful and unstoppable. But it's also limited by the creativity and choices made by the wearer. And in this instance Thanos chose to answer Thor's attack with a straightforward energy beam which Stormbreaker happens to be able to get through.

But Thanos could have responded in any number of ways with the gauntlet that would likely have worked.

This

Is there anything that says the reality stone couldn't have turned the axe into bubbles mid-throw? Or space stoned himself away? Or time stoned the axe throw backwards?

Granted I totally understand if the axe's creation gives it some kind of resistance to the stones, but yeah using a hyper beam was not exactly the best choice.
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Shuto-uke
05/04/18 10:25:46 AM
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Meh.

Thor post-Ragnarok got wrecked by Thanos pretty bad. Then Hulk and Loki did.

Thor didn't get more powerful because Odin died or because of the events of Ragnarok, he is simply more powerful because of the weapon that giant Tyrion Lannister made for him.
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fan357
05/04/18 10:30:26 AM
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They couldn't make Thanos as strong as his comic book form. That's too much for cinema. Making him tough but vulnerable was the right way to go.
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Shuto-uke
05/04/18 10:36:26 AM
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fan357 posted...
They couldn't make Thanos as strong as his comic book form. That's too much for cinema. Making him tough but vulnerable was the right way to go.


They just end making him inconsistent to the point of stupidity though. One scene he can wreck thor and loki and then kick Hulk's ass so hard that Hulk is afraid to come out now, and then in another scene a guy that's sightly above human strength (captain america) can literally punch him without shattering his hand and then blocking one of his blows.
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hollow_shrine
05/04/18 10:36:45 AM
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Goats posted...
Friendly Reminder that the rightful queen of Asgard would have smashed into Thanos when he was least prepared, wrecked his fleet with a giant fucking wolf and an army of Draugr while wielding Odin's spear and the space stone. Even with Thor's power up he was still losing.

By not bowing to his sister (who was the rightful queen) and instead fracturing Asgard in a civil war, Thor directly enabled Thanos in his quest. And to argue that nobody knew about Thanos is pretty lol. Asgard knew when an ice giant farted and Thanos had a MASSIVE FLEET that was laying waste to ENTIRE WORLDS. Some rock people rebel in Thor throw a tantrum and he ends their rebellion in a heartbeat.

Thor and Loki doomed the entire galaxy.

I love this. My only nitpick is that draugr are men who died at sea. That army has more in common with the Einherjar (but they weren't necessarily chosen by valkyries either, so...).
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EndOfDiscOne
05/04/18 10:50:06 AM
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Hulk needs a buff next. He was a beast in Avengers 1 but now he's becoming obsolete.
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Muffinz0rz
05/04/18 11:09:06 AM
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EndOfDiscOne posted...
Hulk needs a buff next. He was a beast in Avengers 1 but now he's becoming obsolete.

I think he'll get his, given the whole theory of "Ragnarok + IW + A4" being a sort of "Hulk trilogy." He'll probably be a large factor in A4.
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orangefire25
05/04/18 11:38:53 AM
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Shuto-uke posted...
fan357 posted...
They couldn't make Thanos as strong as his comic book form. That's too much for cinema. Making him tough but vulnerable was the right way to go.


They just end making him inconsistent to the point of stupidity though. One scene he can wreck thor and loki and then kick Hulk's ass so hard that Hulk is afraid to come out now, and then in another scene a guy that's sightly above human strength (captain america) can literally punch him without shattering his hand and then blocking one of his blows.

I'd argue that they're constantly Makin cap super strong then not that strong etc
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Guerrilla Soldier
05/04/18 11:42:55 AM
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how can i argue power level now!
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s0nicfan
05/04/18 11:43:39 AM
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Shuto-uke posted...
fan357 posted...
They couldn't make Thanos as strong as his comic book form. That's too much for cinema. Making him tough but vulnerable was the right way to go.


They just end making him inconsistent to the point of stupidity though. One scene he can wreck thor and loki and then kick Hulk's ass so hard that Hulk is afraid to come out now, and then in another scene a guy that's sightly above human strength (captain america) can literally punch him without shattering his hand and then blocking one of his blows.


Didn't Cap punch him with vibranium gauntlet-shields though? It's not like he was doing it bare-handed.
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EliteC
05/04/18 11:44:57 AM
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s0nicfan posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
fan357 posted...
They couldn't make Thanos as strong as his comic book form. That's too much for cinema. Making him tough but vulnerable was the right way to go.


They just end making him inconsistent to the point of stupidity though. One scene he can wreck thor and loki and then kick Hulk's ass so hard that Hulk is afraid to come out now, and then in another scene a guy that's sightly above human strength (captain america) can literally punch him without shattering his hand and then blocking one of his blows.


Didn't Cap punch him with vibranium gauntlet-shields though? It's not like he was doing it bare-handed.


Good point.

He was still powerful enough to hold his punch though, which is a joke
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s0nicfan
05/04/18 11:49:48 AM
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EliteC posted...
s0nicfan posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
fan357 posted...
They couldn't make Thanos as strong as his comic book form. That's too much for cinema. Making him tough but vulnerable was the right way to go.


They just end making him inconsistent to the point of stupidity though. One scene he can wreck thor and loki and then kick Hulk's ass so hard that Hulk is afraid to come out now, and then in another scene a guy that's sightly above human strength (captain america) can literally punch him without shattering his hand and then blocking one of his blows.


Didn't Cap punch him with vibranium gauntlet-shields though? It's not like he was doing it bare-handed.


Good point.

He was still powerful enough to hold his punch though, which is a joke


If you mean when he was casually reaching down (which was also in the trailer) I think the way you're supposed to interpret that is Cap was giving his 100% and Thanos was mildly surprised that he was able to put up any resistance at all before just completely trashing him. At no point was he actually threatened.

If you're going to be annoyed, Widow and Okoye aren't enhanced by the super soldier serum and they were way too effective at fighting Thanos' Black Order.
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