Poll of the Day > Is it cultural apropiation if a ukranian dude dress as a samurai for halloween?

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yourDaddie
05/02/18 4:39:57 PM
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So cultural apropiation basically is when a member of a dominant group uses something from an opressed group... However remember Japan has the 3rd largest economy in the world, it is one of the richest nations on the planet and was a colonial power that won wars against China and Russia...while Ukraine is a very poor country that has always been oppresed by it's neighbors...
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Mead
05/02/18 4:41:55 PM
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No, cultural appropriation is a stupid concept
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ReggieTheReckless
05/02/18 4:44:00 PM
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Mead posted...
No, cultural appropriation is a stupid concept


and racist
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yourDaddie
05/02/18 4:44:28 PM
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Mead posted...
No, cultural appropriation is a stupid concept

I knoe but I want to know what supporters of the concep would think when it comes to a privileged east asian culture vs an oppresen slav culture. Remember that slavs have been opresed by other whites for ages. Even Hittler liked east asians more than eastern europeans
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Mead
05/02/18 4:44:50 PM
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yourDaddie posted...
Mead posted...
No, cultural appropriation is a stupid concept

I knoe but I want to know what supporters of the concep would think when it comes to a privileged east asian culture vs an oppresen slav culture. Remember that slavs have been opresed by other whites for ages. Even Hittler liked east asians more than eastern europeans


No
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SkynyrdRocker
05/02/18 4:45:44 PM
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Mead posted...
No, cultural appropriation is a stupid concept
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yourDaddie
05/02/18 4:48:40 PM
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Mead posted...
yourDaddie posted...
Mead posted...
No, cultural appropriation is a stupid concept

I knoe but I want to know what supporters of the concep would think when it comes to a privileged east asian culture vs an oppresen slav culture. Remember that slavs have been opresed by other whites for ages. Even Hittler liked east asians more than eastern europeans


No

So for supporters of the concep it is ca only if the more privileged group does it no matter their race?
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Lokarin
05/02/18 5:17:22 PM
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Why would it be? The Samurai started in Ukraine
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Golden Road
05/02/18 5:19:57 PM
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Cultural appropriation isn't a stupid concept. It basically just means "respect oppressed people's culture." How is that, at least on a conceptual level, stupid? Just because cultural appropriation isn't always cut and dry doesn't mean the concept behind it is without merit.
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myghostisdead
05/02/18 5:23:08 PM
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SkynyrdRocker posted...
Mead posted...
No, cultural appropriation is a stupid concept

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zebatov
05/02/18 5:39:22 PM
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Lol. I just posted about this elsewhere. I was saying that you don't see Japanese people complaining about cultural appropriation like the natives or black people do.

Also, this:
Mead posted...
No, cultural appropriation is a stupid concept

It's just one more thing for people to complain about.
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GanglyKhan
05/02/18 5:52:28 PM
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Golden Road posted...
Cultural appropriation isn't a stupid concept. It basically just means "respect oppressed people's culture." How is that, at least on a conceptual level, stupid? Just because cultural appropriation isn't always cut and dry doesn't mean the concept behind it is without merit.

Dressing up as a samurai for an event is okay. Talking in a stereotypical accent and only discussing how much you love rice and how you beat your son for getting a B+ isn't. People who can't delineate the two need to consider some things.
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Hop103
05/02/18 6:05:12 PM
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No, not at all.
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dedbus
05/02/18 7:09:52 PM
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I've jumped out of that hot water, as an American I don't think about or consider other people's cultures. Checkmate dweebs.
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darkknight109
05/02/18 7:18:26 PM
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Yes, but the idea of cultural appropriation being a bad thing is ridiculous and should be ignored.
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SunWuKung420
05/02/18 7:38:41 PM
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Taco Bell is cultural appropriation and it's terrible.
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GanglyKhan
05/02/18 7:44:25 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Taco Bell is cultural appropriation and it's terrible.

Taco Bell isn't even Texmex. I have no idea what to actually call it. I'd still prefer T-Bell over Texmex though lol
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zebatov
05/02/18 9:55:55 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Taco Bell is cultural appropriation and it's terrible.

That's why there's Taco Time.
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SunWuKung420
05/02/18 10:17:26 PM
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Don't forget Panda Express. Seriously, such a racist name on top of the appropriation.

Let's also mention how much Olive Garden would love customers to think that an Italian grandmother cooked their food.
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dainkinkaide
05/02/18 10:22:16 PM
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The idea behind cultural appropriation is that one should not be able to just adopt another's culture for prom night, Halloween, or Cinco de Mayo, only to toss it away the next day. Culture is about history, lived experiences,

It's not about "who's more oppressed than who", because that's a bullshit measurement; it's about not respecting other cultures.

Cultural appropriation is effectively saying something akin to "I'm going to be Japanese for a day" without that day being, say, February 19th, 1942.
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Mead
05/02/18 10:23:00 PM
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dainkinkaide posted...
The idea behind cultural appropriation is that one should not be able to just adopt another's culture for prom night, Halloween, or Cinco de Mayo, only to toss it away the next day. Culture is about history, lived experiences,

It's not about "who's more oppressed than who", because that's a bullshit measurement; it's about not respecting other cultures.

Cultural appropriation is effectively saying something akin to "I'm going to be Japanese for a day" without that day being, say, February 19th, 1942.


No
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Mead
05/02/18 10:23:54 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Don't forget Panda Express. Seriously, such a racist name on top of the appropriation.

Let's also mention how much Olive Garden would love customers to think that an Italian grandmother cooked their food.


Please explain how a panda is racist
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dioxxys
05/02/18 10:24:53 PM
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GanglyKhan posted...
Golden Road posted...
Cultural appropriation isn't a stupid concept. It basically just means "respect oppressed people's culture." How is that, at least on a conceptual level, stupid? Just because cultural appropriation isn't always cut and dry doesn't mean the concept behind it is without merit.

Dressing up as a samurai for an event is okay. Talking in a stereotypical accent and only discussing how much you love rice and how you beat your son for getting a B+ isn't. People who can't delineate the two need to consider some things.

this

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SunWuKung420
05/02/18 10:26:24 PM
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Mead posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Don't forget Panda Express. Seriously, such a racist name on top of the appropriation.

Let's also mention how much Olive Garden would love customers to think that an Italian grandmother cooked their food.


Please explain how a panda is racist


Pandas live in China. They serve severely "whitewashed" Chinese food fast, hence "Panda Express" but it should say "Terrible Americanized Chinese food served buffet style".

They don't even offer actual panda.
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dioxxys
05/02/18 11:29:30 PM
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trollolololol
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Lokarin
05/03/18 4:25:40 AM
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McDonalds doesn't sell Scottish quisine
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Mead
05/03/18 4:33:52 AM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Mead posted...
SunWuKung420 posted...
Don't forget Panda Express. Seriously, such a racist name on top of the appropriation.

Let's also mention how much Olive Garden would love customers to think that an Italian grandmother cooked their food.


Please explain how a panda is racist


Pandas live in China. They serve severely "whitewashed" Chinese food fast, hence "Panda Express" but it should say "Terrible Americanized Chinese food served buffet style".

They don't even offer actual panda.


You realize that your assertion that poor quality food equates to whitewashing is overtly more racist than your claim that using the word panda for a fast casual establishment that serves food inspired by cantonese dishes?

What am I saying, of course you dont, youre the kind of person that thinks most people who go to any affordable chain are under the assumption that they are eating authentic ethnic food, because of course you think that
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SunWuKung420
05/03/18 9:18:16 AM
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Mead posted...
What am I saying, of course you dont, youre the kind of person that thinks most people who go to any affordable chain are under the assumption that they are eating authentic ethnic food, because of course you think that


This is you asserting things I never said. Please don't put words in my mouth.

Mead posted...
You realize that your assertion that poor quality food equates to whitewashing"


I never said such a thing. That's a conclusion you jumped to all by your little self, meadette.

But it's not like "panda express" is fine dining or authentic.
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Lokarin
05/03/18 9:23:52 AM
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All the new free nations are culturally appropriating AMERICA
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krazychao5
05/03/18 9:30:19 AM
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Lokarin posted...
McDonalds doesn't sell Scottish quisine

Do you know it's spelled cuisine or you just trollin'?
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Lokarin
05/03/18 9:49:00 AM
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krazychao5 posted...
Lokarin posted...
McDonalds doesn't sell Scottish quisine

Do you know it's spelled cuisine or you just trollin'?


sometimes stuff happens. like when egoraptor forgot how to spell "eye"
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Lil_Bit83
05/03/18 9:58:01 AM
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Mead posted...
No, cultural appropriation is a stupid concept


This. Go for it. If anyone has a problem with it, its their problem not yours.
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Mead
05/03/18 11:08:15 AM
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But it's not like "panda express" is fine dining or authentic.


Who ever said they were?
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yourDaddie
05/03/18 1:00:52 PM
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dainkinkaide posted...
The idea behind cultural appropriation is that one should not be able to just adopt another's culture for prom night, Halloween, or Cinco de Mayo, only to toss it away the next day. Culture is about history, lived experiences,

It's not about "who's more oppressed than who", because that's a bullshit measurement; it's about not respecting other cultures.

Cultural appropriation is effectively saying something akin to "I'm going to be Japanese for a day" without that day being, say, February 19th, 1942.

Dresing as a Knight, a Samurai or a Jaguar warrior for halloween is not the same as dressing as a japanese an english or a mexican for halloween
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darkknight109
05/03/18 3:59:37 PM
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dainkinkaide posted...
The idea behind cultural appropriation is that one should not be able to just adopt another's culture for prom night, Halloween, or Cinco de Mayo, only to toss it away the next day.

Sure they should. Why not?

This has been going on for millennia. Cultures meet, trade ideas, fashion, games, celebrations, and such. Other cultures take those ideas, consider them, maybe change them a bit and come up with something new and interesting. That's how we advance as a species and as a society. The idea that you can't partake in someone else's culture unless you "live their history" is patently ridiculous.

I'm a firm believer in multiculturalism and it's frustrating to me to see that not only is it now under attack from the extreme right ("Go back home, ya gat dang furriners, and take those funny clothes ya wear with ya!"), which is nothing new, but now it's also being attacked by the extreme left ("All cultures are sacred and should not be emulated unless you are a part of them") with this "cultural appropriation" bullshit.
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Revelation34
05/03/18 5:50:39 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
Taco Bell is cultural appropriation and it's terrible.

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SunWuKung420 posted...
Don't forget Panda Express. Seriously, such a racist name on top of the appropriation.

Let's also mention how much Olive Garden would love customers to think that an Italian grandmother cooked their food.


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Bacon_Pancakes
05/03/18 6:18:21 PM
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dainkinkaide posted...
It's not about "who's more oppressed than who", because that's a bullshit measurement; it's about not respecting other cultures.

It's "whom" for the second one. Stop appropriating my grammar!!
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Golden Road
05/03/18 6:36:09 PM
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Why does talking about cultural appropriation bother so many people so much?
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Revelation34
05/03/18 6:39:37 PM
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Golden Road posted...
Why does talking about cultural appropriation bother so many people so much?


Something that doesn't exist can't really bother people.
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SunWuKung420
05/03/18 6:42:10 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Golden Road posted...
Why does talking about cultural appropriation bother so many people so much?


Something that doesn't exist can't really bother people.


You keep saying it doesn't exist but it does and you're a terrible person for denying it.
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Revelation34
05/03/18 6:44:16 PM
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SunWuKung420 posted...
You keep saying it doesn't exist but it does and you're a terrible person for denying it.


This coming from somebody who thinks Taco Bell is cultural appropriation.
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Golden Road
05/03/18 6:45:24 PM
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Revelation34 posted...
Golden Road posted...
Why does talking about cultural appropriation bother so many people so much?

Something that doesn't exist can't really bother people.

People certainly seem bothered by it in this very thread, regardless.
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GanglyKhan
05/03/18 6:54:54 PM
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darkknight109 posted...

I'm a firm believer in multiculturalism and it's frustrating to me to see that not only is it now under attack from the extreme right ("Go back home, ya gat dang furriners, and take those funny clothes ya wear with ya!"), which is nothing new, but now it's also being attacked by the extreme left ("All cultures are sacred and should not be emulated unless you are a part of them") with this "cultural appropriation" bulls***.

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