Current Events > Kanye West: "Abe Lincoln freed the slaves and he was republican"

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'Ye.....
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Tfw Kanye has somehow been spending too much time on CE
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Too bad it's not 1865 amirite
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Did he just learn that?
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Imagine attacking a black man because he's speaking 100% historical fact, without spin.
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Yeah and around the 1950s and 1960s the republican and democratic parties had pretty much shifted their positions. The dems were the conservative party and the republicans the liberal. That is what changed. It's called the southern strategy.
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ledbowman posted...

Did he just learn that?

A lot of conservatives just learned this. It's why it has become such a popular talking point for them these days.
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He's not wrong though

Wonder what dickhead he was texting that wanted to Tweet it though
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darkjedilink posted...

Imagine attacking a black man because he's speaking 100% historical fact, without spin.

Right he is one hundred percent right about what the parties were back then. But the parties are pretty much the opposite now. While that's no reason to attack him, clearifying the details isn't an attack.
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omg is this true? Can someone remind the Republican party that they're not the racist one? thanks.
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creativerealms posted...

darkjedilink posted...

Imagine attacking a black man because he's speaking 100% historical fact, without spin.

Right he is one hundred percent right about what the parties were back then. But the parties are pretty much the opposite now. While that's no reason to attack him, clearifying the details isn't an attack.

This. He's basically a low info CEman that spouts this without realizing that democrats were in fact conservatives who would be republicans today. Those same conservatives founded the KKK

Axiom posted...

This. He's basically a low info CEman

so he's darkjedilink...
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Technically correct.
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darkjedilink posted...

Imagine attacking a black man because he's speaking 100% historical fact, without spin.

AvantgardeAClue posted...

He's not wrong though

Wonder what dickhead he was texting that wanted to Tweet it though

EnragedSlith posted...

Technically correct.

being dense for the sake of being dense or something?

idgi
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Sounds like Kanye doesnt know about the evolution of the political landscape from the past 70 years and the Southern Strategy by the Republican Party.

But it was originally a Republican that freed the slaves so why dont black people support Republicans now! Its not fair, what more do they want?!??
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I also have a question for the Conservatives who keep saying this and saying "ITS TECHNICALLY TRUE!"...Why do so many of you the support the group of people who fought against Lincoln to prevent him from doing this? "muh history" and such....if you praise and support what Lincoln did why do you cling so strongly to the preservation of the "history" of the people who hated what he did?
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TheVipaGTS posted...

I also have a question for the Conservatives who keep saying this and saying "ITS TECHNICALLY TRUE!"...Why do so many of you the support the group of people who fought against Lincoln to prevent him from doing this? "muh history" and such....if you praise and support what Lincoln did why do you cling so strongly to the preservation of the "history" of the people who hated what he did?

I'm sure you'll get a straight answer and not a shitpost.
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Lol, Based Kanye as always XD.

Libs are gonna have a field day with this.

Raging about the southern strategy
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Source? Who tweeted that?
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Democrats freed the slaves yet Republicans fly Confederate flags.

You can't explain that.
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Thats right Kanye, the GOP helped black people during the civil rights movement as well
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Kayne just saying saying dumb bs lately to get in the news to promote his future album for free. Why waste his record labels money on publicity when he can just say something krazy and news stations, news papers, message boards, etc. can do it for you for free? He learned from the pos Kardashian/Jenner family.

iPhone_7 posted...

Sounds like Kanye doesnt know about the evolution of the political landscape from the past 70 years and the Southern Strategy by the Republican Party.

But it was originally a Republican that freed the slaves so why dont black people support Republicans now! Its not fair, what more do they want?!??

MLK was a Republican yet black people vote Democrat. What did he know that everyone else doesn't?
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https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/991003052567019520
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TroutPaste posted...

Source? Who tweeted that?

Kanye West
https://twitter.com/kanyewest/status/991003052567019520
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Honest Abe 'Incoln! Honest Abe!

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This is like Dinesh D'Souza's favorite talking point
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The point is that the left-wing is fond of invoking the past to condemn the present (a fallacy) and they don't like the taste of their own medicine
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Funbazooka posted...

The point is that the left-wing is fond of invoking the past to condemn the present (a fallacy) and they don't like the taste of their own medicine

its a terrible point. Lincoln was a Republican. his ideals don't fall in line to anything you or the current republicans believe today. he would not be a Republican today. I won't say he'd be a democrat, but his slave freeing "sjw" nonsense would not be tolerated in today's Republican party.
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Funbazooka posted...

The point is that the left-wing is fond of invoking the past to condemn the present (a fallacy) and they don't like the taste of their own medicine

Example please. I see the right doing this more often. That civil war example is a common conservative excuse to prove that modern democrats are the true racists.
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^well Lincoln is to blame for the income tax, more of Dem move
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TheVipaGTS posted...

its a terrible point.

That's what I just said. Invoking the past makes for terrible points on... wait for it... *drum roll*

Both sides.
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Funbazooka posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

its a terrible point.

That's what I just said. Invoking the past makes for terrible points on... wait for it... *drum roll*

Both sides.

Posts like these are why Republicans need to learn history from classrooms instead of from statues.
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Republicans are also responsible for the 13th and 14th amendments, which almost no democrat at the time voted for.

A_Good_Boy posted...

Funbazooka posted...

TheVipaGTS posted...

its a terrible point.

That's what I just said. Invoking the past makes for terrible points on... wait for it... *drum roll*

Both sides.

Posts like these are why Republicans need to learn history from classrooms instead of from statues.

And textbooks approved by the Daughters of the Confederacy
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Man, ya know, someone said that Dems invoke the past a lot but didn't Kanye just bring up the past? Isn't he a Trump supporter? Wtf is going on? Hypocrisy in MY America?!

I've never seen this argument used by someone who actually knew what they were talking about. It's a kind of desperation tactic when you've run out of other good things to say about your side.
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Damnit Kanye. You make it really hard to be a fan sometimes
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Kanye is just being an idiot to promote his album. Still it's sad that people still fall for that argument.

Which party is it that is currently defending the Confederacy, the KKK, and neo-nazis?
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Southernfatman posted...

Kanye is just being an idiot to promote his album. Still it's sad that people still fall for that argument.

Which party is it that is currently defending the Confederacy, the KKK, and neo-nazis?

According to Kanye West, the Democratic party should be.

If Abraham Lincoln were alive today he would be a Democrat. It's as easy as putting it into those terms.
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RoadsterUFO posted...

creativerealms posted...

Yeah and around the 1950s and 1960s the republican and democratic parties had pretty much shifted their positions. The dems were the conservative party and the republicans the liberal. That is what changed. It's called the southern strategy.

This is bs for a few reasons.

1. If the so called party swap in the 1960s happened, this would imply Democrat pro-big Government President FDR was actually a Republican. This would imply that Republican pro-small Government President Calvin Coolidge was actually a Democrat.

2. The Civi Rights Act of 1964 passed with a Republican majority with most of the opposition from that Congress being Democrats.

3. Very few of the then Congress that voted on the Civil Rights Act of 1964 actually swapped parties. Some notable people that voted against it stayed Democrats their whole lives/political career. For example, J. William Fulbright voted against it and he stayed a Dem for life, and future President Bill Clinton considered him his hero and mentor.

4. While the party switch never actually happen, certain aspects of both major parties obviously died out with a century+ time passing since they were formed.

it wasn't a full on swap but they definitely swapped on this. to continue to push this "Lincoln was a repub!" nonsense is bull shit. Republicans of today would not have supported what Lincoln did back then and you know it. Its also why so many Republicans of today support the people who OPPOSED what Lincoln did back then...drop the bull shit...
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I don't doubt that some democrats pull the past card but it seems to be very common on the right. This is actually a common tactic by republicans to make democrats look like the true racists. Plus they love pulling the Nazi card especially with gun control, "If the Nazis didn't take away the Jews guns the holocaust wouldn't have happened."
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RoadsterUFO posted...

creativerealms posted...

Yeah and around the 1950s and 1960s the republican and democratic parties had pretty much shifted their positions. The dems were the conservative party and the republicans the liberal. That is what changed. It's called the southern strategy.

This is bs for a few reasons.

1. If the so called party swap in the 1960s happened, this would imply Democrat pro-big Government President FDR was actually a Republican. This would imply that Republican pro-small Government President Calvin Coolidge was actually a Democrat.

2. The Civi Rights Act of 1964 passed with a Republican majority with most of the opposition from that Congress being Democrats.

3. Very few of the then Congress that voted on the Civil Rights Act of 1964 actually swapped parties. Some notable people that voted against it stayed Democrats their whole lives/political career. For example, J. William Fulbright voted against it and he stayed a Dem for life, and future President Bill Clinton considered him his hero and mentor.

4. While the party switch never actually happen, certain aspects of both major parties obviously died out with a century+ time passing since they were formed.

Oh look at that, libs were giving me more bs all this time
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