Current Events > Kanye had Jordan Peterson's lecture open in a tab on his laptop

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MacadamianNut3 posted...

I stopped defending Kanye after bleached asshole

I forgot he likes stuff in his ass. This all makes more sense now.
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joe40001 posted...

1. You just got done trying to argue against the smart point, so it seems a bit insincere to act like you actually don't care

No I didn't. Read what I wrote again. I never said he was dumb.

joe40001 posted...

2. That is not an accurate representation of his views on transgendered people. He has said he is open to considering using preferred pronouns but at the same time he has serious issues with compelled speech and also believes we should be able to have the discussion that gender, like many other elements of a person, is not something based in choice but in objective reality.

No he's said he will not call transgender people by their preferred pronouns. I agree with the freedom of speech argument, but that's beside the point. I can agree that a person has the right to use their speech to deny the Holocaust without myself denying the Holocaust.

Kazi1212 posted...

Lmfao an ultra successful black man has a contrarian opinion so now hes unintelligent

Not so fast, hotshot, some of us have heard Kanye speak
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I'm pretty sure both Peterson's critics and his fans read what he says.

I remember years ago when Kanye West put out a book saying how he doesnt like to read.
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wah_wah_wah posted...

joe40001 posted...

1. You just got done trying to argue against the smart point, so it seems a bit insincere to act like you actually don't care

No I didn't. Read what I wrote again. I never said he was dumb.

joe40001 posted...

2. That is not an accurate representation of his views on transgendered people. He has said he is open to considering using preferred pronouns but at the same time he has serious issues with compelled speech and also believes we should be able to have the discussion that gender, like many other elements of a person, is not something based in choice but in objective reality.

No he's said he will not call transgender people by their preferred pronouns. I agree with the freedom of speech argument, but that's beside the point. I can agree that a person has the right to use their speech to deny the Holocaust without myself denying the Holocaust.

1. You didn't say he was dumb, but you argued against the people calling him smart...

2. It isn't his policy to never refer to a person by their preferred pronouns. And also not calling somebody xer is a big difference from denying the holocaust.
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Say what you will about Peterson, I think it's obvious he deserves credit for inspiring Kanye to produce this incredible work of creative genius
https://twitter.com/Chazer11/status/990026903623946240
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joe40001 posted...

1. You didn't say he was dumb, but you argued against the people calling him smart...

Which isn't the same fucking thing. You rushed to accuse me of being insincere. Now you're fumbling around with more accusations. You're annoying and pathetic.

joe40001 posted...

2. It isn't his policy to never refer to a person by their preferred pronouns. And also not calling somebody xer is a big difference from denying the holocaust.

"There's no way I'm going to use words made up by people who are doing that - not a chance." - Jordan Peterson.

But would you let him as a Black man smash attractive blonde white women that a stereotypically proper American White man is expected to have? That is the question to all of the sudden Kanye sack riders.
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wah_wah_wah posted...

joe40001 posted...

1. You didn't say he was dumb, but you argued against the people calling him smart...

Which isn't the same fucking thing. You rushed to accuse me of being insincere. Now you're fumbling around with more accusations. You're annoying and pathetic.

Firstly, stay classy. Secondly to challenge people calling him smart is to suggest in some measure he is not smart. I don't know how pointing that obvious truth out enrages you so.

wah_wah_wah posted...

joe40001 posted...

2. It isn't his policy to never refer to a person by their preferred pronouns. And also not calling somebody xer is a big difference from denying the holocaust.

"There's no way I'm going to use words made up by people who are doing that - not a chance." - Jordan Peterson.

You literally ignore the preceding sentence.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-37875695

"I've studied authoritarianism for a very long time - for 40 years - and they're started by people's attempts to control the ideological and linguistic territory," he told the BBC.

"There's no way I'm going to use words made up by people who are doing that - not a chance.

So his refusal about words relates to anybody who attempts to control ideological or linguistic territory. His motivating factor again is related to free speech and those who oppose it. He will never use made up words because something he perceives as authoritarian compels him to.

Do you truly think he's a hateful person who hates transgendered people? Because the things you keep going to and the comparison you make seems to suggest that. So cards on the table, if that's your claim you should just own it, because it's pretty easily disprovable.
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Pretty sure I've heard him explicitly state he'd call a transgendered person either he or she (whichever one they prefer and request) in some interview somewhere. It may have been that Canadian talk show where a regressive professor insisted that Peterson's speech was actual violence, no joke.
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Funbazooka posted...

Pretty sure I've heard him explicitly state he'd call a transgendered person either he or she (whichever one they prefer and request) in some interview somewhere. It may have been that Canadian talk show where a regressive professor insisted that Peterson's speech was actual violence, no joke.

He probably did. But just that he even took such an extreme stance in the past tells you what audience he is going for. He's not entirely the free thinker the right sells him as.

What extreme stance?
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Funbazooka posted...

What extreme stance?

Der what

wah_wah_wah posted...

Funbazooka posted...

What extreme stance?

Der what

He asked what extreme stance.

The thing you posted is not extreme when you don't take it out of context.
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wah_wah_wah posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Pretty sure I've heard him explicitly state he'd call a transgendered person either he or she (whichever one they prefer and request) in some interview somewhere. It may have been that Canadian talk show where a regressive professor insisted that Peterson's speech was actual violence, no joke.

He probably did. But just that he even took such an extreme stance in the past tells you what audience he is going for. He's not entirely the free thinker the right sells him as.

Extreme Stance?

He said don't be mad at people for having different political views to you.
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wah_wah_wah posted...

Funbazooka posted...

Pretty sure I've heard him explicitly state he'd call a transgendered person either he or she (whichever one they prefer and request) in some interview somewhere. It may have been that Canadian talk show where a regressive professor insisted that Peterson's speech was actual violence, no joke.

He probably did. But just that he even took such an extreme stance in the past tells you what audience he is going for. He's not entirely the free thinker the right sells him as.

Jordan Peterson has stated multiple times that he would call an individual by their preferred gender as a courtesy, he is vehemently opposed to compelled speech vis--vis Bill C-16

Jordan Peterson has a shitload of transgender fans, specifically the ones that aren't SJW bots.

clearaflagrantj posted...

Jordan Peterson has stated multiple times that he would call an individual by their preferred gender as a courtesy, he is vehemently opposed to compelled speech vis--vis Bill C-16

But then he's also said the other things too. Again, one of those dudes that wants to have it both ways.

That's how he got woke
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wah_wah_wah posted...

But then he's also said the other things too.

Oh no, not things!!!

Anything but things!
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Welcome to the team, Kanye. Ive said for months hat this would happen and that the democrats would lose their foothold on the minority vote.
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