Current Events > High school senior gets accepted by 83 colleges, over $3 million in scholarships

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http://abc7chicago.com/education/new-orleans-senior-accepted-to-more-than-80-colleges/3357447/

and I thought being accepted by 20 colleges was obnoxious.
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Francois says he hasn't officially chosen a school yet.

Right now, he's considering several law schools.

...How is he considering law schools if he hasn't gone to undergraduate yet? I think whoever wrote this is confused.
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weekoldhotdog posted...

and I thought being accepted by 20 colleges was obnoxious.

Darrin Francois, a student at the International High School of New Orleans, was accepted to 83 colleges thanks to hard work and the school's insistence that students apply to as many colleges as possible, which IHS helps them do by encouraging students to create a daily routine of applying to multiple schools a day.

WGNO reports that about a dozen students at the school have been accepted to at least 20 schools.

the school encourages them to apply

I'm referring to the news anchors from Texas calling a black teen ''obnoxiuos'' for being accepted into 20 colleges.
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Seems a bit silly since applying costs money and he can only actually go to one.
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I thought there were application fees?
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

I thought there were application fees?

does it really matter if he paid them or not though. Would it make any difference to the story

Akagami_Shanks posted...

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

I thought there were application fees?

does it really matter if he paid them or not though. Would it make any difference to the story

if he dindn't pay, then that is stealing. that would make a hellova difference.
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Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

I thought there were application fees?

There are, which is why you really have to think how college acceptances and the like are also skewed by relative privilege.
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I wonder how many college offers and scholarships he would have gotten if he was white.

like same personality, grades, etc.
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Trayvon posted...

I wonder how many college offers and scholarships he would have gotten if he was white.

like same personality, grades, etc.

Dont start your racism already

Trayvon posted...

I wonder how many college offers and scholarships he would have gotten if he was white.

like same personality, grades, etc.

For some reason I thought they stopped allowing race to be a factor into college acceptance. Am i wrong?
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Akagami_Shanks posted...

Trayvon posted...

I wonder how many college offers and scholarships he would have gotten if he was white.

like same personality, grades, etc.

Dont start your racism already

That's not racism, that's recognizing that affirmative action in college acceptance exists.

The valedictorian at my school was Indian and got rejected from Harvard, meanwhile #14 was Hispanic and accepted. And our valedictorian was an absolute fucking genius.

WrkHrdPlayHrdr posted...

Trayvon posted...

I wonder how many college offers and scholarships he would have gotten if he was white.

like same personality, grades, etc.

For some reason I thought they stopped allowing race to be a factor into college acceptance. Am i wrong?

Yes. Diversity (not just race) is still a compelling end with regards to higher education admission. However, race cannot be the sole factor, be overweighted in comparison to other factors, and anything that even resembles a racial quota is likely to be canned by lawsuit. If the admissions process can be demonstrated to be an individualized process, then diversity criteria are viewed with less suspicion.
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the reason these kids get in everywhree isn't that they check the 'black' box

it's that the 'black' box is worth >0 points

and basically at the top every candidate has about the same fundamental set of qualifications: perfect grades, test scores, recommendations, and quality essays

so a slight edge produces a massive shift in results

it's not particularly unfair, esp considering how few of these students there are.
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Darkman124 posted...

the reason these kids get in everywhree isn't that they check the 'black' box

it's that the 'black' box is worth >0 points

and basically at the top every candidate has about the same fundamental set of qualifications: perfect grades, test scores, recommendations, and quality essays

so a slight edge produces a massive shift in results

it's not particularly unfair, esp considering how few of these students there are.

I agree except I think it's 1) more than slight and 2) actually still is unfair regardless
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i mean honestly i competed with these kids for slots at MIT, GA Tech, CalTech, etc. the 'loser' in this case was me. this is my story:

MIT said no. Cal said no. Cornell said no. GA Tech said yes, no scholarship. UMCP said yes, full ride.

i got in to GA Tech, visited, and decided to take the free ride at UMCP then went on to get a free master's at JHU

this white boy did ok and i dont feel like the system was unfairly to me
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Akagami_Shanks posted...

Darrin Francois, a student at the International High School of New Orleans, was accepted to 83 colleges thanks to hard work and the school's insistence that students apply to as many colleges as possible, which IHS helps them do by encouraging students to create a daily routine of applying to multiple schools a day.

WGNO reports that about a dozen students at the school have been accepted to at least 20 schools.

So basically this school likes to waste a lot of peoples' time
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Why do we assume that because of Affirmative Action, exceptional white students aren't going to be able to get into the school they want, when something like 65%-70% of the average school is white?
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As a fellow white boy, I got a full ride scholarship for diversity in science.

Most people just jump on the issue because it suits them politically. The few remaining perceive themselves to be jilted, but very likely don't have a leg to stand on.
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Just like the other kid who got into 20 colleges, don't have an issue with this kid applying to so many. Seems like an amazing student, and I wish him the best.

I do have to question why the media feels the need to write articles about this every time a black kid does it, though. Never see these kinds of pieces about Asians.
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my grad ride was based on drinking all the competitors for my fellowship under the table the night before we interviewed with my adviser so they all looked terrible during their interview

such unfairness

The Admiral posted...

I do have to question why the media feels the need to write articles about this every time a black kid does it, though. Never see these kinds of pieces about Asians.

afaik asians tend not to make the 'sweep'

though i agree this is not news
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The Admiral posted...

Just like the other kid who got into 20 colleges, don't have an issue with this kid applying to so many. Seems like an amazing student, and I wish him the best.

I do have to question why the media feels the need to write articles about this every time a black kid does it, though. Never see these kinds of pieces about Asians.

The first time I heard about the other kid was when Fox News was complaining about him applying to 20 schools.
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Darkman124 posted...

i mean honestly i competed with these kids for slots at MIT, GA Tech, CalTech, etc. the 'loser' in this case was me. this is my story:

MIT said no. Cal said no. Cornell said no. GA Tech said yes, no scholarship. UMCP said yes, full ride.

i got in to GA Tech, visited, and decided to take the free ride at UMCP then went on to get a free master's at JHU

this white boy did ok and i dont feel like the system was unfairly to me

This isn't all about you though :P

The system that is using race as a significant admissions variable is an unjust one. The counterargument is usually to bring up all these other injustices, like slavery and continuing inequality in the modern era, but I don't think that another injustice is the right way to address these issues.
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Sativa_Rose posted...

This isn't all about you though :P

The system that is using race as a significant admissions variable is an unjust one. The counterargument is usually to bring up all these other injustices, like slavery and continuing inequality in the modern era, but I don't think that another injustice is the right way to address these issues.

imo my experience was not atypical aside from the part where i got a position meant for a PhD candidate when i was applying as a master's candidate. we changed my application after the fact
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Darkman124 posted...

this white boy did ok and i dont feel like the system was unfairly to me

COVxy posted...

As a fellow white boy, I got a full ride scholarship for diversity in science.

Most people just jump on the issue because it suits them politically. The few remaining perceive themselves to be jilted, but very likely don't have a leg to stand on.

We can be honest and admit this is all horseshit?

Black students get a +310/2400 bias on their SAT scores, while Asians get -140/310. So an Asian with a 2100 is considered equal to a black with 1650. That is fucking absurd. Let the smartest kids, don't pass on the brighter ones to fill some fucking quota.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P40_kd-mS8" data-time="
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If the kid who applied to 20 colleges was considered obnoxious by Fox News, then they're going to lose their minds once they hear about this, lol
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Darkman124 posted...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6P40_kd-mS8" data-time="

First link when you google "affirmative action Sat scores" (I'm on mobile)

and just to think, back in my day they told us to apply to 3 colleges. One super college you probably wouldnt get into, one you had a decent shot of getting to, and one you were guaranteed to get into. MIT didn't want me but vanderbilt did
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clearaflagrantj posted...

First link when you google "affirmative action Sat scores" (I'm on mobile)

http://www.academia.edu/2786125/Policy_Brief
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are you shitposting while actually shitting
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Won't different people get different google results because they track your shit and use that for their algos?
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clearaflagrantj posted...

Akagami_Shanks posted...

Trayvon posted...

I wonder how many college offers and scholarships he would have gotten if he was white.

like same personality, grades, etc.

Dont start your racism already

That's not racism, that's recognizing that affirmative action in college acceptance exists.

The valedictorian at my school was Indian and got rejected from Harvard, meanwhile #14 was Hispanic and accepted. And our valedictorian was an absolute fucking genius.

huh...where do you live? the exact same thing happened at my school
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clearaflagrantj posted...

Black students get a +310/2400 bias on their SAT scores, while Asians get -140/310. So an Asian with a 2100 is considered equal to a black with 1650. That is fucking absurd. Let the smartest kids, don't pass on the brighter ones to fill some fucking quota.

Proof?
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Darkman124 posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

First link when you google "affirmative action Sat scores" (I'm on mobile)

http://www.academia.edu/2786125/Policy_Brief
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are you shitposting while actually shitting

Nah this is the link I was referring to:

https://www.insidehighered.com/admissions/article/2017/08/07/look-data-and-arguments-about-asian-americans-and-admissions-elite

Apparently the bias chart was pulled from a sociologists book from 1997 so the data is no longer valid.

clearaflagrantj posted...

We can be honest and admit this is all horseshit?

What seems to be bigger horseshit is the whining about need based programs giving to the needy.

"Wah, I'm a middle class white person, I have it so hard because I don't need the help to begin with, so therefore I don't get any!"
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Akagami_Shanks posted...

Dat_Cracka_Jax posted...

I thought there were application fees?

does it really matter if he paid them or not though. Would it make any difference to the story

Yes. If he paid to apply to that many colleges then he is a moron
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COVxy posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

We can be honest and admit this is all horseshit?

What seems to be bigger horseshit is the whining about need based programs giving to the needy.

"Wah, I'm a middle class white person, I have it so hard because I don't need the help to begin with, so therefore I don't get any!"

I am 110% in favor of financial assistance to low income families. You can't even properly attack a strawman.

clearaflagrantj posted...

COVxy posted...

clearaflagrantj posted...

We can be honest and admit this is all horseshit?

What seems to be bigger horseshit is the whining about need based programs giving to the needy.

"Wah, I'm a middle class white person, I have it so hard because I don't need the help to begin with, so therefore I don't get any!"

I am 110% in favor of financial assistance to low income families. You can't even properly attack a strawman.

It turns out that you are simply attacking a ghostman then.
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That kind of acceptance must be very...affirming.
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I'm sure he was in a position to where his application fees were waived. He's probably shopping for offers.

Lol @ affirmative action whining when despite all of the "affirmative action" less than 10% of the population of each Ivy League school (and most high and mid tier schools) is African American and there are less African Americans and Hispanics in higher education today than there were 30+ years ago.

Legacy admittance and generational wealth have resulted in more consistent "handouts" than affirmative action (which benefits White women more statistically than either gender of any other color) ever has.

Lord forbid someone is brown and can read and they got into a school because adcoms think they're a good fit, rather than because they can be on a brochure as a "We Admit Black People" flag.