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averagejoel 04/17/18 9:01:27 AM #1: |
Many have gone to work at Tesla inspired by CEO Elon Musk and his mission. What some found, they said, was a chaotic factory floor where speed trumped safety. full article: https://www.revealnews.org/article/tesla-says-its-factory-is-safer-but-it-left-injuries-off-the-books/amp/ late stage capitalism rules, actually --- peanut butter and dick ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 04/17/18 9:08:16 AM #2: |
Speaking as a safety consultant, this place sounds like a fucking nightmare.
Here's hoping for the surprise OSHA inspection. The woman working there has the right to call them out there anonymously. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FaytlessHearts 04/17/18 9:10:33 AM #3: |
Lol. One of the most influential people in the world isn't gonna care about osha..he can pay them any amount and it'll continue on. Truth of wealth.
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chrono625 04/17/18 9:10:38 AM #4: |
averagejoel posted...
And in addition to yellow, Musk was said to dislike too many signs in the factory and the warning beeps forklifts make when backing up, former team members said. His preferences, they said, were well known and led to cutting back on those standard safety signals. I cant believe inspectors would let him get away with this. These are huge safety and health violations. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 04/17/18 9:13:35 AM #5: |
averagejoel posted...
Musks name often was invoked to justify shortcuts and shoot down concerns, they said. So I guess it's not just Musk fans that act like a cult, it's actual employees too Yikes --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 04/17/18 9:14:25 AM #6: |
chrono625 posted...
I cant believe inspectors would let him get away with this. If you're talking about on-site safety inspectors, clearly they're unwilling to cross Musk on this. If you're talking about government inspectors, they wouldn't let him get away with this if they were worth their jobs. Honestly, California has the strictest regs in the country, so I would expect Cal/OSHA to be all over this at least. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 04/17/18 9:17:50 AM #7: |
The dude sent his heavily customized car to float in space for eternity. He's not exactly sane.
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Tmaster148 04/17/18 9:18:10 AM #8: |
MacadamianNut3 posted...
averagejoel posted...Musks name often was invoked to justify shortcuts and shoot down concerns, they said. Who do you think are the kind people who are trying to work for him? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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TheShafter69 04/17/18 9:33:59 AM #9: |
Elon Musk is a sodomite
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CyricZ 04/17/18 9:37:42 AM #10: |
In the interest of transparency, here's Tesla's public response:
https://www.tesla.com/blog/not-so-revealing-story I love the "Hey we have yellow all over the place!" and they show one sign. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 04/17/18 9:39:54 AM #11: |
CyricZ posted...
I love the "Hey we have yellow all over the place!" and they show one sign. Tbf each word links to a different pic --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 04/17/18 9:47:27 AM #12: |
Ah my bad. Didn't realize each word was a link.
Of course, that doesn't address that caution tape should be yellow or at best yellow and black alternating. There's really no excuse for marking tape that's a different shade of gray. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SK8T3R215 04/17/18 9:49:18 AM #13: |
Don't worry they shutdown their Model 3 production for a week so the workers should be safe for a bit.
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Questionmarktarius 04/17/18 10:27:51 AM #14: |
averagejoel posted...
late stage capitalism rules, actually That would be uprooting the factory to Mexico or Bangladesh, where the labor costs are cheaper and nobody particularly cares about worker safety until the entire building collapses. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 04/17/18 10:45:33 AM #15: |
MacadamianNut3 posted...
So I guess it's not just Musk fans that act like a cult, it's actual employees too I have friends who work at SpaceX and they've all said the same thing, that unless you truly believe in him you'll burn out --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Raikuro 04/17/18 10:48:28 AM #16: |
TheShafter69 posted...
Elon Musk is a sodomite not that there's anything wrong with that ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Rexdragon125 04/17/18 10:50:23 AM #17: |
Pesky workers' rights getting in the way of profits
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Questionmarktarius 04/17/18 10:53:10 AM #18: |
CyricZ posted...
In the interest of transparency, here's Tesla's public response: "Heads up" - painted on the floor. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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CyricZ 04/17/18 10:56:14 AM #19: |
Saw that, too.
Honestly I'd like a look at the place, myself. Anyone can take a few pictures showing how "great" their safety program is. I think the most telling stuff is coming from the former EHS folks that worked there quoted in that article. Hell, I can see the light gray bordering tape on the medium gray floor and that shit just does not fly. --- CyricZ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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silentwing26x 04/17/18 10:57:49 AM #20: |
Having worked at one of his companies, I can say with confidence that these stories are character assassination attempts and awful dishonest shit-pieces written by people who want to tear down what Tesla and SpaceX are doing. It's really bizarre how both the left and the right have their share of people who are desperate to tear down Tesla and SpaceX no matter what.
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darkjedilink 04/17/18 11:01:29 AM #21: |
averagejoel posted...
Many have gone to work at Tesla inspired by CEO Elon Musk and his mission. What some found, they said, was a chaotic factory floor where speed trumped safety. How is it capitalism? This company only exists because of government intervention. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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silentwing26x 04/17/18 11:02:39 AM #22: |
Ah yes and here we go. The leftists latching on to any random person's made-up complaints about the work environment, just because the complaints affirm the left's narrative. And the rightists latching on to any amount of government funding as some indication that Tesla or SpaceX shouldn't exist.
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ReignFury 04/17/18 11:02:55 AM #23: |
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silentwing26x 04/17/18 11:05:24 AM #24: |
ReignFury posted...
This story sounds like BS Anything averagejoel posts is absolute garbage ... Copied to Clipboard!
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MacadamianNut3 04/17/18 11:07:09 AM #25: |
Tell us more about questionable posters, 2010 account with 46 karma
Did a main get suspended for shitposting --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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prince_leo 04/17/18 11:10:03 AM #26: |
MacadamianNut3 posted...
Tell us more about questionable posters, 2010 account with 46 karma he's never hid who his main is though --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 04/17/18 11:11:10 AM #27: |
Looks like it's not warned anymore. Hurray! Anyway, good work deflecting from the point MacadamianNut3. Whatever floats your anti-Tesla boner though.
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MacadamianNut3 04/17/18 11:11:42 AM #28: |
prince_leo posted...
he's never hid who his main is though I don't keep up with CE lore Edit: oh look it's Proudclad. Last time it was backing up Elon' s AI claims after popping into a topic and claiming no one knew what they were talking about because he's read a few AI books by futurists, not actual researchers and now this I should've seen this coming --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tmaster148 04/17/18 11:12:41 AM #29: |
silentwing26x posted...
ReignFury posted...This story sounds like BS Complains people are character assassinating Elon Musk. Shows no problem attacking others. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 04/17/18 11:16:15 AM #30: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
"Heads up" - painted on the floor. because it's directed towards people who has their head down while using their phone? --- You have the right to remain silent. anything you post will be misquoted, then be used against you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Questionmarktarius 04/17/18 11:17:28 AM #31: |
Ricemills posted...
Questionmarktarius posted..."Heads up" - painted on the floor. ...who would have their faces in their phones, and not see the floor anyway. I'd venture to guess that yellow pole has struck more than one crotch. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 04/17/18 11:18:00 AM #32: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Ricemills posted...Questionmarktarius posted..."Heads up" - painted on the floor. They had the same thing at SpaceX and it actually works. A lot of people would put their phone away after walking over one, myself included. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bob_The_Phantom 04/17/18 11:18:46 AM #33: |
That's fucked up
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MacadamianNut3 04/17/18 11:37:09 AM #34: |
Tmaster148 posted...
silentwing26x posted...ReignFury posted...This story sounds like BS Yeah it's a bad gimmick He attacks a poster in this topic, I attack him literally only because of this since I knew nothing about a rando alt, so then he claims I'm deflecting. He hops into a previous topic explicitly saying nobody knows what they're talking about, I give evidence that I have a background in the area, then he whines about someone trying to brag I don't deal with cult members on the regular but even I can notice an obvious pattern. Someone vomiting out words to defend Musk any way possible and immediately forgetting what just transpired --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chrono625 04/17/18 12:05:15 PM #35: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Ricemills posted...Questionmarktarius posted..."Heads up" - painted on the floor. Do you keep your phone 1 inch away from your face at all times? I admittedly need to reduce the walking and phone shit I do. I'm trying to treat it as driving. When I'm parked I'll check messages. When I'm walking I'll pull over and stand to the side to look at something. Walking and phone using is a legit danger, especially in large cities like New York City where people walk the streets not paying a kick of attention. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffeebeanz 04/17/18 12:06:32 PM #36: |
I'm kind of amazed that Tesla has been propped up for as long as it has.
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FLUFFYGERM 04/17/18 12:07:16 PM #37: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
I'm kind of amazed that Tesla has been propped up for as long as it has. Why? They make fantastic cars and technology in general. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Coffeebeanz 04/17/18 12:08:55 PM #38: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...I'm kind of amazed that Tesla has been propped up for as long as it has. Because they don't make money They have never made a significant yearly profit since their inception. --- Physician [Internal Medicine] ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Ricemills 04/17/18 12:09:08 PM #39: |
Questionmarktarius posted...
Ricemills posted...Questionmarktarius posted..."Heads up" - painted on the floor. so you want it to be: "Heads up" - painted on the places that only visible to the people who already had their heads up? --- You have the right to remain silent. anything you post will be misquoted, then be used against you. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DocileOrangeCup 04/17/18 12:09:31 PM #40: |
Man mY cousin works at that one
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FLUFFYGERM 04/17/18 12:10:55 PM #41: |
Coffeebeanz posted...
FLUFFYGERM posted...Coffeebeanz posted...I'm kind of amazed that Tesla has been propped up for as long as it has. Amazon wasn't really making any money for a long time either. --- Do good. Eat communists. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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chrono625 04/17/18 12:12:58 PM #42: |
Tesla does make amazing products.
I'm very interested in their solar roof. So much more efficient and attractive than solar panels. --- http://i.imgur.com/Rqk1DYV.gif - Super Bowl XXI/XXV/XLII/XLVI Champions - NY Giants Eli Manning SB tracker: 2/2 Superbowls 2/2 SBMVP's ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Paper_Okami 04/17/18 12:13:27 PM #43: |
my view on musk:
https://twitter.com/dasharez0ne/status/979871224103776256 --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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FLUFFYGERM 04/17/18 12:18:03 PM #44: |
Elon Musk built companies that changed the world for the better but a literal communist like Paper_Okami has a negative opinion on him on Twitter. Someone alert the media.
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foreveraIone 04/17/18 12:19:34 PM #45: |
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Paper_Okami 04/17/18 12:20:57 PM #46: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Elon Musk built companies that changed the world for the better but a literal communist like Paper_Okami has a negative opinion on him on Twitter. Someone alert the media. you didn't even look at the link i bet lol --- "Conceit, arrogance and egotism are the essentials of patriotism"- Emma Goldman "Wimmy Wham Wham Wozzle!" -Slurms MacKenzie ... Copied to Clipboard!
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hockeybub89 04/17/18 12:24:09 PM #47: |
What if... Tesla and SpaceX are great, but Elon Musk is still a jackass and attracts a cultist following?
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MacadamianNut3 04/17/18 12:25:43 PM #48: |
Demigod Elon is gonna lead us into da future somewhere between all of the times he feels the urge to spread misinformation about AI and building cars with questionable track records when it comes to not breaking down
I've got nothing against SpaceX. Elon is indeed a jackass. Its kinda funny but im at an AI-related conference right now and 2/3 keynote speakers yesterday made the point that it should be the AI researchers themselves that help shape public perception. The third one just had a cool talk about anti-air tech that flew over my head >_> --- Roll Tide & Go Irish ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SK8T3R215 04/17/18 12:26:13 PM #49: |
FLUFFYGERM posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...FLUFFYGERM posted...Coffeebeanz posted...I'm kind of amazed that Tesla has been propped up for as long as it has. https://mobile.twitter.com/teslacharts/status/965389631595470848 --- New York Knicks, New York Jets, New York Yankees. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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foreveraIone 04/17/18 12:26:29 PM #50: |
MacadamianNut3 posted...
Demigod Elon is gonna lead us into da future somewhere between all of the times he feels the urge to spread misinformation about AI and building cars with questionable track records when it comes to not breaking down when is the technological singularity coming? --- https://i.imgur.com/aVTScxQ.jpg Always. Edgy. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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