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spudger 04/15/18 12:16:00 PM #51: |
i never understood hanging out at coffee shops or working there.
annoying as fuck and all the noise is distracting. --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 04/15/18 12:17:12 PM #52: |
The Admiral posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...The Admiral posted..."The officers said the manager asked them to leave and that if they did not leave the cafe, they would be trespassing," Saahene said. "The two young men politely asked why they were being asked to leave and were not given a reason other than that they hadn?t bought something." I don't like hot weather. "Not knowing the law" lmao. You conveniently decided to go outside when you couldn't back up your claim that they were not intending to purchase anything once their friend arrived, not to mention your only response to calling 2 people "a large group" was "doesn't matter how many there were." What insults were thrown? It didn't seem like the type of situation where anyone needed to resort to that. Jeez, throwing their severed faces? That's some Metalocalypse-type shit right there lol. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Steve Nick 04/15/18 12:31:29 PM #53: |
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
The Admiral posted...ImTheMacheteGuy posted...The Admiral posted..."The officers said the manager asked them to leave and that if they did not leave the cafe, they would be trespassing," Saahene said. "The two young men politely asked why they were being asked to leave and were not given a reason other than that they hadn?t bought something." why are you so mad at another gamefaq's user electing to not post messages? --- This is my signature. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 04/15/18 12:32:15 PM #54: |
Low rent can also = 0.
It also says this Sure, all businesses need paying customers and not just window dressing Which implies customers that also dont pay are allowed And still, it doesnt answer the question as to why other people who were doing the same thing as these guys were not bothered. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 04/15/18 12:35:39 PM #55: |
Steve Nick posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...The Admiral posted...ImTheMacheteGuy posted...The Admiral posted..."The officers said the manager asked them to leave and that if they did not leave the cafe, they would be trespassing," Saahene said. "The two young men politely asked why they were being asked to leave and were not given a reason other than that they hadn?t bought something." The way people throw "mad" around these days has pretty much stripped the word of any meaning. Who is laughing their ass off and laughing out loud to indicate anger anyway? Also, was that apostrophe an autocorrect mistake or did you actually think it was correct? Rofl if the latter. --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Tyranthraxus 04/15/18 12:40:20 PM #56: |
It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade.
There's zero reason to arrest guys for just sitting there. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 04/15/18 12:48:41 PM #59: |
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade. How did they do it to save face when its something they have been doing for years? And I wouldnt doubt they werent exactly nice when they were being told to leave for no reason. Most people would be at that point. Amd you can make a dumbass joke about it if you want but its extremely common for people to not order things until the whole party has arrived. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/15/18 12:54:30 PM #62: |
Conflict posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...Tyranthraxus posted...It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade. How long do you think they waited? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 04/15/18 12:56:14 PM #63: |
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...Tyranthraxus posted...It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade. By all accounts these guys were courteous. Where are you getting that they were rude BEFORE the cops came? And the open policy comes from articles long before this incident You know what, just stop posting. Youveade so many incorrect assumptions that its clear you dont know what youre talking about --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 04/15/18 12:57:03 PM #64: |
More details.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/14/602556973/starbucks-police-and-mayor-weigh-in-on-controversial-arrest-of-2-black-men-in-ph When police arrived, two Starbucks employees told them two men had asked to use the restroom but were told they couldn't because they hadn't purchased anything. The men allegedly refused to leave after being asked by Starbucks employees. Ross also said the two men refused to leave after being asked three times by police officers. Of course the men were asked repeatedly to leave, something you guys adamantly claimed did not happen in that original circlejerk topic. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 04/15/18 12:57:10 PM #65: |
darkjedilink posted...
Conflict posted...Twin3Turbo posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...Tyranthraxus posted...It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade. Is there a time limit? --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 04/15/18 12:59:02 PM #66: |
The Admiral posted...
More details. We all acknowledged this. Then we asked the question why when there were others doing the exact same thing as them yet werent being bothered. Thats a valid question. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/15/18 12:59:06 PM #67: |
Twin3Turbo posted...
darkjedilink posted...Conflict posted...Twin3Turbo posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...Tyranthraxus posted...It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade. Before ordering? Sure - when the staff says order something or leave. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/15/18 1:00:29 PM #68: |
Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...Twin3Turbo posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...Tyranthraxus posted...It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade. So they COURTEOUSLY told the manager they were not going to order or leave? How does one do that? --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 04/15/18 1:00:30 PM #69: |
Other customers are actually claiming that a woman was allowed into the bathroom without purchasing anything and a group in the back who had not bought anything were there for almost an hour.
--- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 04/15/18 1:00:52 PM #71: |
darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...darkjedilink posted...Conflict posted...Twin3Turbo posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...Tyranthraxus posted...It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade. No there isnt. You literally just made it up --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 04/15/18 1:01:53 PM #72: |
Twin3Turbo posted...
The Admiral posted...More details. When the police are asking them repeatedly to leave, it doesn't matter what the reason is. These men were not arrested "because they were black," they were arrested for the usual reason -- repeatedly did not comply with the police. They could have completely avoided spending half the day in jail. As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion. But that's irrelevant from them ignoring police instructions. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/15/18 1:04:05 PM #73: |
Twin3Turbo posted...
darkjedilink posted...Twin3Turbo posted...darkjedilink posted...Conflict posted...When people ask "well why didn't he just buy something while waiting for his friend" it's a dead giveaway that they've never actually gone out to eat with a group of friends. I just made up the concept of staff saying 'order or leave?' --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 04/15/18 1:04:18 PM #74: |
darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...Twin3Turbo posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...Tyranthraxus posted...It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade. Hi, we are going to order when our friend arrives. He will be here soon. Thanks for your inquiry --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Twin3Turbo 04/15/18 1:05:24 PM #75: |
The Admiral posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...The Admiral posted...More details. For the record, my beef is with everything leading up to the police getting there, not with the police asking them to leave. I have no beef with the police in this particular situation --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DepreceV2 04/15/18 1:05:39 PM #76: |
What's crazy is that people in this topic says there is nothing wrong... except people do this all the time at Starbucks. People go in and don't order anything. Why are these two targeted? If there wasn't an issue before with other people then why is there an issue with them? It's clear they didn't do anything wrong based on the video and several eye witnesses
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Bishop9800 04/15/18 1:06:02 PM #78: |
darkjedilink posted...
So, show us where that's SB policy. --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Sativa_Rose 04/15/18 1:07:17 PM #79: |
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
no matter who you are where you're from, what you did, as long as you love me --- I may not go down in history, but I will go down on your sister. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/15/18 1:08:04 PM #81: |
Twin3Turbo posted...
darkjedilink posted...Twin3Turbo posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...Twin3Turbo posted...JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...Tyranthraxus posted...It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade. 'I'm sorry, but unless you order something now, I will need you to leave.' --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 04/15/18 1:09:15 PM #82: |
Conflict posted...
The Admiral posted...As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion. It has nothing to do with why they were ultimately arrested. You guys insisted yesterday that they were just minding their own business when the cops showed up and took them off in cuffs. You ignored that they were repeatedly asked by both the manager and police to order something or leave, and their repeated lack of compliance with the police is the sole reason they were arrested. As for why the manager called the cops, none of the articles give any details on that beyond a report that they were making a "disturbance," so you have no basis to say it's justified or unjustified. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/15/18 1:09:30 PM #83: |
Conflict posted...
The Admiral posted...As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion. No, the reason this happened is because they were told to order or leave, after loitering for a significant amount of time, and they chose not to. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DepreceV2 04/15/18 1:09:32 PM #84: |
Conflict posted...
The Admiral posted...As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion. Exactly! It's like you are trying to separate the issue. Let's say someone is getting shot at and they are running for their life. They try to run across the street and get struck by a car. Admiral would say, "He shouldn't have ran across the street. Why he ran across the street? That's another argument." That's fucking silly --- Yes... I'm a Hanzo main ... Copied to Clipboard!
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ImTheMacheteGuy 04/15/18 1:10:38 PM #85: |
The Admiral posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...The Admiral posted...More details. ^Talk about trying to save face >_> --- Place-holder sig because new phone and old sigs not saved :/ ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 04/15/18 1:11:46 PM #88: |
I bet my account that if it were two white guys who got treated this way, both Addy and Darkjedilink would be trying to boycott Starbucks.
--- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/15/18 1:12:07 PM #89: |
Conflict posted...
It's been said multiple times they weren't loitering tho and that doesn't coincide with Starbucks policy, so... They literally were loitering. Had ONE of them ordered absolutely anything, they wouldn't have been, but they didn't, so they were. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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The Admiral 04/15/18 1:12:21 PM #90: |
DepreceV2 posted...
Conflict posted...The Admiral posted...As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion. That analogy is silly and completely irrelevant. Not sure how many times people need to be reminded that arguing with the cops and refusing to comply is only going to get you arrested. The cops have no authority to mediate the situation once they arrive. If they tell you to leave a store, you're either doing so willingly or in cuffs, there is no other scenario. Any beef the men might have had for being kicked out unfairly is a civil legal matter at that point and should be handled that way. --- - The Admiral ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DepreceV2 04/15/18 1:12:37 PM #92: |
Conflict posted...
It's been said multiple times they weren't loitering tho and that doesn't coincide with Starbucks policy, so... Don't know why people keep acting like they did something wrong. Multiple eye witnesses said the contrary. Fucking Starbucks came out and said they did nothing wrong. Yet they are still defending it --- Yes... I'm a Hanzo main ... Copied to Clipboard!
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InYourWalls1 04/15/18 1:13:55 PM #93: |
Bishop9800 posted...
So, show us where that's SB policy. "An employee called the police for help to get the men out of the store but later regretted that it escalated into an arrest, said a company official familiar with the incident, who declined to give a name to freely describe internal discussions. The employee was doing the right thing according to store policy, the official told The Post, but the company is evaluating its guidance out of concern that the options and decisions may not be clear." https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/04/14/starbucks-apologizes-after-two-black-men-in-philadelphia-were-arrested-after-waiting-at-a-table.html --- The fully enlightened earth radiates disaster triumphant ... Copied to Clipboard!
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DepreceV2 04/15/18 1:14:15 PM #94: |
The Admiral posted...
DepreceV2 posted...Conflict posted...The Admiral posted...As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion. That isn't the fucking point. Everyone knows the cops just did their job. That's not the issue. The issue is that they where fucking called. Quit talking about the actual arrest. It's irrelevant to the main issue. --- Yes... I'm a Hanzo main ... Copied to Clipboard!
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darkjedilink 04/15/18 1:16:20 PM #95: |
InYourWalls1 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...So, show us where that's SB policy. Well, I guess that settles it. --- 'It's okay that those gangbangers stole all my personal belongings and cash at gunpoint, cuz they're building a rec center!' - OneTimeBen ... Copied to Clipboard!
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RE_expert44 04/15/18 1:17:22 PM #97: |
InYourWalls1 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...So, show us where that's SB policy. Still though, this story blew up and that employee will be the sacrificial lamb. --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Bishop9800 04/15/18 1:17:51 PM #98: |
Conflict posted...
InYourWalls1 posted...Bishop9800 posted...So, show us where that's SB policy. Thank you --- I don't have to insult you. I have proven that you are a hypocrite and a fool. That's not insulting you, that's exposing you. PSN-Bishop9800 ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Capn Circus 04/15/18 1:17:54 PM #100: |
The woman filming and writing this said everyone was asking questions.. but didn't film anyone actually doing this. She only chose to film when they got arrested (after refusing to leave). There's much more that wasn't filmed and I'll absolutely bet on them having done something.
It's extremely unlikely they just asked them to leave. --- "I think that man will be president right about the time when spaceships come down filled with dinosaurs in red capes" - Tom Hanks ... Copied to Clipboard!
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