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spudger
04/15/18 12:16:00 PM
#51:


i never understood hanging out at coffee shops or working there.

annoying as fuck and all the noise is distracting.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/15/18 12:17:12 PM
#52:


The Admiral posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
The Admiral posted...
"The officers said the manager asked them to leave and that if they did not leave the cafe, they would be trespassing," Saahene said. "The two young men politely asked why they were being asked to leave and were not given a reason other than that they hadn?t bought something."


Pretty much what was expected. And despite what was said above, Starbucks is not a public place, it's a private business.


I thought you were done shitposting when you ran away from the other topic after embarrassing yourself worse than I've ever seen you embarrass yourself before.


If by ?ran away? you mean enjoyed a beautiful Saturday outside after you guys got outraged about not knowing the law and hurled insults like chimps throw their faces, sure.


I don't like hot weather. "Not knowing the law" lmao. You conveniently decided to go outside when you couldn't back up your claim that they were not intending to purchase anything once their friend arrived, not to mention your only response to calling 2 people "a large group" was "doesn't matter how many there were." What insults were thrown? It didn't seem like the type of situation where anyone needed to resort to that. Jeez, throwing their severed faces? That's some Metalocalypse-type shit right there lol.
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Steve Nick
04/15/18 12:31:29 PM
#53:


ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
The Admiral posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
The Admiral posted...
"The officers said the manager asked them to leave and that if they did not leave the cafe, they would be trespassing," Saahene said. "The two young men politely asked why they were being asked to leave and were not given a reason other than that they hadn?t bought something."


Pretty much what was expected. And despite what was said above, Starbucks is not a public place, it's a private business.


I thought you were done shitposting when you ran away from the other topic after embarrassing yourself worse than I've ever seen you embarrass yourself before.


If by ?ran away? you mean enjoyed a beautiful Saturday outside after you guys got outraged about not knowing the law and hurled insults like chimps throw their faces, sure.


I don't like hot weather. "Not knowing the law" lmao. You conveniently decided to go outside when you couldn't back up your claim that they were not intending to purchase anything once their friend arrived, not to mention your only response to calling 2 people "a large group" was "doesn't matter how many there were." What insults were thrown? It didn't seem like the type of situation where anyone needed to resort to that. Jeez, throwing their severed faces? That's some Metalocalypse-type shit right there lol.


why are you so mad at another gamefaq's user electing to not post messages?
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Twin3Turbo
04/15/18 12:32:15 PM
#54:


Low rent can also = 0.
It also says this

Sure, all businesses need paying customers and not just window dressing

Which implies customers that also dont pay are allowed

And still, it doesnt answer the question as to why other people who were doing the same thing as these guys were not bothered.
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/15/18 12:35:39 PM
#55:


Steve Nick posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
The Admiral posted...
ImTheMacheteGuy posted...
The Admiral posted...
"The officers said the manager asked them to leave and that if they did not leave the cafe, they would be trespassing," Saahene said. "The two young men politely asked why they were being asked to leave and were not given a reason other than that they hadn?t bought something."


Pretty much what was expected. And despite what was said above, Starbucks is not a public place, it's a private business.


I thought you were done shitposting when you ran away from the other topic after embarrassing yourself worse than I've ever seen you embarrass yourself before.


If by ?ran away? you mean enjoyed a beautiful Saturday outside after you guys got outraged about not knowing the law and hurled insults like chimps throw their faces, sure.


I don't like hot weather. "Not knowing the law" lmao. You conveniently decided to go outside when you couldn't back up your claim that they were not intending to purchase anything once their friend arrived, not to mention your only response to calling 2 people "a large group" was "doesn't matter how many there were." What insults were thrown? It didn't seem like the type of situation where anyone needed to resort to that. Jeez, throwing their severed faces? That's some Metalocalypse-type shit right there lol.


why are you so mad at another gamefaq's user electing to not post messages?


The way people throw "mad" around these days has pretty much stripped the word of any meaning. Who is laughing their ass off and laughing out loud to indicate anger anyway? Also, was that apostrophe an autocorrect mistake or did you actually think it was correct? Rofl if the latter.
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Tyranthraxus
04/15/18 12:40:20 PM
#56:


It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade.

There's zero reason to arrest guys for just sitting there.
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Twin3Turbo
04/15/18 12:48:41 PM
#59:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade.

There's zero reason to arrest guys for just sitting there.


It's almost as if they did that to save face. I guess every business should just allow people to hang out in them now.

Personally, while I feel as if there may have been slightly racist undertones, the police also said they were being rude. Not to mention the fact that if they were asked to buy something and had professional careers... why didn't they? Would their widdle fwend be offended that they started drinking their hot sugar water before he did?

How did they do it to save face when its something they have been doing for years? And I wouldnt doubt they werent exactly nice when they were being told to leave for no reason. Most people would be at that point. Amd you can make a dumbass joke about it if you want but its extremely common for people to not order things until the whole party has arrived.
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darkjedilink
04/15/18 12:54:30 PM
#62:


Conflict posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade.

There's zero reason to arrest guys for just sitting there.


It's almost as if they did that to save face. I guess every business should just allow people to hang out in them now.

Personally, while I feel as if there may have been slightly racist undertones, the police also said they were being rude. Not to mention the fact that if they were asked to buy something and had professional careers... why didn't they? Would their widdle fwend be offended that they started drinking their hot sugar water before he did?

How did they do it to save face when its something they have been doing for years? And I wouldnt doubt they werent exactly nice when they were being told to leave for no reason. Most people would be at that point. Amd you can make a dumbass joke about it if you want but its extremely common for people to not order things until the whole party has arrived.


When people ask "well why didn't he just buy something while waiting for his friend" it's a dead giveaway that they've never actually gone out to eat with a group of friends.

How long do you think they waited?
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Twin3Turbo
04/15/18 12:56:14 PM
#63:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade.

There's zero reason to arrest guys for just sitting there.


It's almost as if they did that to save face. I guess every business should just allow people to hang out in them now.

Personally, while I feel as if there may have been slightly racist undertones, the police also said they were being rude. Not to mention the fact that if they were asked to buy something and had professional careers... why didn't they? Would their widdle fwend be offended that they started drinking their hot sugar water before he did?

How did they do it to save face when its something they have been doing for years? And I wouldnt doubt they werent exactly nice when they were being told to leave for no reason. Most people would be at that point. Amd you can make a dumbass joke about it if you want but its extremely common for people to not order things until the whole party has arrived.


What joke? They literally cried about being asked to buy something from a private business and then refused to leave. Sure, people wait sometimes - but they tend to be courteous and ask, and if the servers say they can't wait without buying something, they buy something or leave.

It does seem like a saving face tactic when the only evidence for an open door policy comes from a statement by the CEO after the fact.

By all accounts these guys were courteous. Where are you getting that they were rude BEFORE the cops came?

And the open policy comes from articles long before this incident

You know what, just stop posting. Youveade so many incorrect assumptions that its clear you dont know what youre talking about
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The Admiral
04/15/18 12:57:03 PM
#64:


More details.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/14/602556973/starbucks-police-and-mayor-weigh-in-on-controversial-arrest-of-2-black-men-in-ph

When police arrived, two Starbucks employees told them two men had asked to use the restroom but were told they couldn't because they hadn't purchased anything. The men allegedly refused to leave after being asked by Starbucks employees. Ross also said the two men refused to leave after being asked three times by police officers.


Of course the men were asked repeatedly to leave, something you guys adamantly claimed did not happen in that original circlejerk topic.
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Twin3Turbo
04/15/18 12:57:10 PM
#65:


darkjedilink posted...
Conflict posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade.

There's zero reason to arrest guys for just sitting there.


It's almost as if they did that to save face. I guess every business should just allow people to hang out in them now.

Personally, while I feel as if there may have been slightly racist undertones, the police also said they were being rude. Not to mention the fact that if they were asked to buy something and had professional careers... why didn't they? Would their widdle fwend be offended that they started drinking their hot sugar water before he did?

How did they do it to save face when its something they have been doing for years? And I wouldnt doubt they werent exactly nice when they were being told to leave for no reason. Most people would be at that point. Amd you can make a dumbass joke about it if you want but its extremely common for people to not order things until the whole party has arrived.


When people ask "well why didn't he just buy something while waiting for his friend" it's a dead giveaway that they've never actually gone out to eat with a group of friends.

How long do you think they waited?

Is there a time limit?
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Twin3Turbo
04/15/18 12:59:02 PM
#66:


The Admiral posted...
More details.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/14/602556973/starbucks-police-and-mayor-weigh-in-on-controversial-arrest-of-2-black-men-in-ph

When police arrived, two Starbucks employees told them two men had asked to use the restroom but were told they couldn't because they hadn't purchased anything. The men allegedly refused to leave after being asked by Starbucks employees. Ross also said the two men refused to leave after being asked three times by police officers.


Of course the men were asked repeatedly to leave, something you guys adamantly claimed did not happen in that original circlejerk topic.

We all acknowledged this. Then we asked the question why when there were others doing the exact same thing as them yet werent being bothered. Thats a valid question.
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darkjedilink
04/15/18 12:59:06 PM
#67:


Twin3Turbo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Conflict posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade.

There's zero reason to arrest guys for just sitting there.


It's almost as if they did that to save face. I guess every business should just allow people to hang out in them now.

Personally, while I feel as if there may have been slightly racist undertones, the police also said they were being rude. Not to mention the fact that if they were asked to buy something and had professional careers... why didn't they? Would their widdle fwend be offended that they started drinking their hot sugar water before he did?

How did they do it to save face when its something they have been doing for years? And I wouldnt doubt they werent exactly nice when they were being told to leave for no reason. Most people would be at that point. Amd you can make a dumbass joke about it if you want but its extremely common for people to not order things until the whole party has arrived.


When people ask "well why didn't he just buy something while waiting for his friend" it's a dead giveaway that they've never actually gone out to eat with a group of friends.

How long do you think they waited?

Is there a time limit?

Before ordering? Sure - when the staff says order something or leave.
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darkjedilink
04/15/18 1:00:29 PM
#68:


Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade.

There's zero reason to arrest guys for just sitting there.


It's almost as if they did that to save face. I guess every business should just allow people to hang out in them now.

Personally, while I feel as if there may have been slightly racist undertones, the police also said they were being rude. Not to mention the fact that if they were asked to buy something and had professional careers... why didn't they? Would their widdle fwend be offended that they started drinking their hot sugar water before he did?

How did they do it to save face when its something they have been doing for years? And I wouldnt doubt they werent exactly nice when they were being told to leave for no reason. Most people would be at that point. Amd you can make a dumbass joke about it if you want but its extremely common for people to not order things until the whole party has arrived.


What joke? They literally cried about being asked to buy something from a private business and then refused to leave. Sure, people wait sometimes - but they tend to be courteous and ask, and if the servers say they can't wait without buying something, they buy something or leave.

It does seem like a saving face tactic when the only evidence for an open door policy comes from a statement by the CEO after the fact.

By all accounts these guys were courteous. Where are you getting that they were rude BEFORE the cops came?

And the open policy comes from articles long before this incident

You know what, just stop posting. Youveade so many incorrect assumptions that its clear you dont know what youre talking about

So they COURTEOUSLY told the manager they were not going to order or leave?

How does one do that?
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Bishop9800
04/15/18 1:00:30 PM
#69:


Other customers are actually claiming that a woman was allowed into the bathroom without purchasing anything and a group in the back who had not bought anything were there for almost an hour.
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Twin3Turbo
04/15/18 1:00:52 PM
#71:


darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Conflict posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade.

There's zero reason to arrest guys for just sitting there.


It's almost as if they did that to save face. I guess every business should just allow people to hang out in them now.

Personally, while I feel as if there may have been slightly racist undertones, the police also said they were being rude. Not to mention the fact that if they were asked to buy something and had professional careers... why didn't they? Would their widdle fwend be offended that they started drinking their hot sugar water before he did?

How did they do it to save face when its something they have been doing for years? And I wouldnt doubt they werent exactly nice when they were being told to leave for no reason. Most people would be at that point. Amd you can make a dumbass joke about it if you want but its extremely common for people to not order things until the whole party has arrived.


When people ask "well why didn't he just buy something while waiting for his friend" it's a dead giveaway that they've never actually gone out to eat with a group of friends.

How long do you think they waited?

Is there a time limit?

Before ordering? Sure - when the staff says order something or leave.

No there isnt. You literally just made it up
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The Admiral
04/15/18 1:01:53 PM
#72:


Twin3Turbo posted...
The Admiral posted...
More details.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/14/602556973/starbucks-police-and-mayor-weigh-in-on-controversial-arrest-of-2-black-men-in-ph

When police arrived, two Starbucks employees told them two men had asked to use the restroom but were told they couldn't because they hadn't purchased anything. The men allegedly refused to leave after being asked by Starbucks employees. Ross also said the two men refused to leave after being asked three times by police officers.


Of course the men were asked repeatedly to leave, something you guys adamantly claimed did not happen in that original circlejerk topic.

We all acknowledged this. Then we asked the question why when there were others doing the exact same thing as them yet werent being bothered. Thats a valid question.


When the police are asking them repeatedly to leave, it doesn't matter what the reason is. These men were not arrested "because they were black," they were arrested for the usual reason -- repeatedly did not comply with the police. They could have completely avoided spending half the day in jail.

As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion. But that's irrelevant from them ignoring police instructions.
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darkjedilink
04/15/18 1:04:05 PM
#73:


Twin3Turbo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Conflict posted...
When people ask "well why didn't he just buy something while waiting for his friend" it's a dead giveaway that they've never actually gone out to eat with a group of friends.

How long do you think they waited?

Is there a time limit?

Before ordering? Sure - when the staff says order something or leave.

No there isnt. You literally just made it up

I just made up the concept of staff saying 'order or leave?'
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Twin3Turbo
04/15/18 1:04:18 PM
#74:


darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade.

There's zero reason to arrest guys for just sitting there.


It's almost as if they did that to save face. I guess every business should just allow people to hang out in them now.

Personally, while I feel as if there may have been slightly racist undertones, the police also said they were being rude. Not to mention the fact that if they were asked to buy something and had professional careers... why didn't they? Would their widdle fwend be offended that they started drinking their hot sugar water before he did?

How did they do it to save face when its something they have been doing for years? And I wouldnt doubt they werent exactly nice when they were being told to leave for no reason. Most people would be at that point. Amd you can make a dumbass joke about it if you want but its extremely common for people to not order things until the whole party has arrived.


What joke? They literally cried about being asked to buy something from a private business and then refused to leave. Sure, people wait sometimes - but they tend to be courteous and ask, and if the servers say they can't wait without buying something, they buy something or leave.

It does seem like a saving face tactic when the only evidence for an open door policy comes from a statement by the CEO after the fact.

By all accounts these guys were courteous. Where are you getting that they were rude BEFORE the cops came?

And the open policy comes from articles long before this incident

You know what, just stop posting. Youveade so many incorrect assumptions that its clear you dont know what youre talking about

So they COURTEOUSLY told the manager they were not going to order or leave?

How does one do that?

Hi, we are going to order when our friend arrives. He will be here soon. Thanks for your inquiry
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Twin3Turbo
04/15/18 1:05:24 PM
#75:


The Admiral posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
The Admiral posted...
More details.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/14/602556973/starbucks-police-and-mayor-weigh-in-on-controversial-arrest-of-2-black-men-in-ph

When police arrived, two Starbucks employees told them two men had asked to use the restroom but were told they couldn't because they hadn't purchased anything. The men allegedly refused to leave after being asked by Starbucks employees. Ross also said the two men refused to leave after being asked three times by police officers.


Of course the men were asked repeatedly to leave, something you guys adamantly claimed did not happen in that original circlejerk topic.

We all acknowledged this. Then we asked the question why when there were others doing the exact same thing as them yet werent being bothered. Thats a valid question.


When the police are asking them repeatedly to leave, it doesn't matter what the reason is. These men were not arrested "because they were black," they were arrested for the usual reason -- repeatedly did not comply with the police. They could have completely avoided spending half the day in jail.

As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion. But that's irrelevant from them ignoring police instructions.

For the record, my beef is with everything leading up to the police getting there, not with the police asking them to leave. I have no beef with the police in this particular situation
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DepreceV2
04/15/18 1:05:39 PM
#76:


What's crazy is that people in this topic says there is nothing wrong... except people do this all the time at Starbucks. People go in and don't order anything. Why are these two targeted? If there wasn't an issue before with other people then why is there an issue with them? It's clear they didn't do anything wrong based on the video and several eye witnesses
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Bishop9800
04/15/18 1:06:02 PM
#78:


darkjedilink posted...

I just made up the concept of staff saying 'order or leave?'

So, show us where that's SB policy.
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Sativa_Rose
04/15/18 1:07:17 PM
#79:


JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
no matter who you are


where you're from, what you did, as long as you love me
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darkjedilink
04/15/18 1:08:04 PM
#81:


Twin3Turbo posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
JACKBUTTMOMMY posted...
Tyranthraxus posted...
It's official Starbucks policy to just let people come in, take up seats, and use the WiFi on their shitty Macs, even if they don't buy anything and it's been that way for at least a decade.

There's zero reason to arrest guys for just sitting there.


It's almost as if they did that to save face. I guess every business should just allow people to hang out in them now.

Personally, while I feel as if there may have been slightly racist undertones, the police also said they were being rude. Not to mention the fact that if they were asked to buy something and had professional careers... why didn't they? Would their widdle fwend be offended that they started drinking their hot sugar water before he did?

How did they do it to save face when its something they have been doing for years? And I wouldnt doubt they werent exactly nice when they were being told to leave for no reason. Most people would be at that point. Amd you can make a dumbass joke about it if you want but its extremely common for people to not order things until the whole party has arrived.


What joke? They literally cried about being asked to buy something from a private business and then refused to leave. Sure, people wait sometimes - but they tend to be courteous and ask, and if the servers say they can't wait without buying something, they buy something or leave.

It does seem like a saving face tactic when the only evidence for an open door policy comes from a statement by the CEO after the fact.

By all accounts these guys were courteous. Where are you getting that they were rude BEFORE the cops came?

And the open policy comes from articles long before this incident

You know what, just stop posting. Youveade so many incorrect assumptions that its clear you dont know what youre talking about

So they COURTEOUSLY told the manager they were not going to order or leave?

How does one do that?

Hi, we are going to order when our friend arrives. He will be here soon. Thanks for your inquiry

'I'm sorry, but unless you order something now, I will need you to leave.'
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The Admiral
04/15/18 1:09:15 PM
#82:


Conflict posted...
The Admiral posted...
As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion.


It actually isn't

it's kinda the reason this happened in the first place


It has nothing to do with why they were ultimately arrested. You guys insisted yesterday that they were just minding their own business when the cops showed up and took them off in cuffs. You ignored that they were repeatedly asked by both the manager and police to order something or leave, and their repeated lack of compliance with the police is the sole reason they were arrested.

As for why the manager called the cops, none of the articles give any details on that beyond a report that they were making a "disturbance," so you have no basis to say it's justified or unjustified.
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darkjedilink
04/15/18 1:09:30 PM
#83:


Conflict posted...
The Admiral posted...
As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion.


It actually isn't

it's kinda the reason this happened in the first place

No, the reason this happened is because they were told to order or leave, after loitering for a significant amount of time, and they chose not to.
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DepreceV2
04/15/18 1:09:32 PM
#84:


Conflict posted...
The Admiral posted...
As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion.


It actually isn't

it's kinda the reason this happened in the first place


Exactly! It's like you are trying to separate the issue.

Let's say someone is getting shot at and they are running for their life. They try to run across the street and get struck by a car.

Admiral would say, "He shouldn't have ran across the street. Why he ran across the street? That's another argument."

That's fucking silly
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ImTheMacheteGuy
04/15/18 1:10:38 PM
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The Admiral posted...
Twin3Turbo posted...
The Admiral posted...
More details.
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2018/04/14/602556973/starbucks-police-and-mayor-weigh-in-on-controversial-arrest-of-2-black-men-in-ph

When police arrived, two Starbucks employees told them two men had asked to use the restroom but were told they couldn't because they hadn't purchased anything. The men allegedly refused to leave after being asked by Starbucks employees. Ross also said the two men refused to leave after being asked three times by police officers.


Of course the men were asked repeatedly to leave, something you guys adamantly claimed did not happen in that original circlejerk topic.

We all acknowledged this. Then we asked the question ?why? when there were others doing the exact same thing as them yet weren?t being bothered. That?s a valid question.


When the police are asking them repeatedly to leave, it doesn't matter what the reason is. These men were not arrested "because they were black," they were arrested for the usual reason -- repeatedly did not comply with the police. They could have completely avoided spending half the day in jail.

As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion. But that's irrelevant from them ignoring police instructions.


^Talk about trying to save face >_>
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Bishop9800
04/15/18 1:11:46 PM
#88:


I bet my account that if it were two white guys who got treated this way, both Addy and Darkjedilink would be trying to boycott Starbucks.
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darkjedilink
04/15/18 1:12:07 PM
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Conflict posted...
It's been said multiple times they weren't loitering tho and that doesn't coincide with Starbucks policy, so...

They literally were loitering. Had ONE of them ordered absolutely anything, they wouldn't have been, but they didn't, so they were.
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The Admiral
04/15/18 1:12:21 PM
#90:


DepreceV2 posted...
Conflict posted...
The Admiral posted...
As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion.


It actually isn't

it's kinda the reason this happened in the first place


Exactly! It's like you are trying to separate the issue.

Let's say someone is getting shot at and their are running for they life. They try to run across the street and get struck by a car.

Admiral would say, "He shouldn't have ran across the street. Why he ran across the street? That's another argument."

That's fucking silly


That analogy is silly and completely irrelevant.

Not sure how many times people need to be reminded that arguing with the cops and refusing to comply is only going to get you arrested. The cops have no authority to mediate the situation once they arrive. If they tell you to leave a store, you're either doing so willingly or in cuffs, there is no other scenario. Any beef the men might have had for being kicked out unfairly is a civil legal matter at that point and should be handled that way.
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DepreceV2
04/15/18 1:12:37 PM
#92:


Conflict posted...
It's been said multiple times they weren't loitering tho and that doesn't coincide with Starbucks policy, so...


Don't know why people keep acting like they did something wrong. Multiple eye witnesses said the contrary. Fucking Starbucks came out and said they did nothing wrong. Yet they are still defending it
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InYourWalls1
04/15/18 1:13:55 PM
#93:


Bishop9800 posted...
So, show us where that's SB policy.


"An employee called the police for help to get the men out of the store but later regretted that it escalated into an arrest, said a company official familiar with the incident, who declined to give a name to freely describe internal discussions. The employee was doing the right thing according to store policy, the official told The Post, but the company is evaluating its guidance out of concern that the options and decisions may not be clear."

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/04/14/starbucks-apologizes-after-two-black-men-in-philadelphia-were-arrested-after-waiting-at-a-table.html
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DepreceV2
04/15/18 1:14:15 PM
#94:


The Admiral posted...
DepreceV2 posted...
Conflict posted...
The Admiral posted...
As for whether the manager should have called the police in the first place or was being racist, that's an entirely different discussion.


It actually isn't

it's kinda the reason this happened in the first place


Exactly! It's like you are trying to separate the issue.

Let's say someone is getting shot at and their are running for they life. They try to run across the street and get struck by a car.

Admiral would say, "He shouldn't have ran across the street. Why he ran across the street? That's another argument."

That's fucking silly


That analogy is silly and completely irrelevant.

Not sure how many times people need to be reminded that arguing with the cops and refusing to comply is only going to get you arrested. The cops have no authority to mediate the situation once they arrive. If they tell you to leave a store, you're either doing so willingly or in cuffs, there is no other scenario. Any beef the men might have had for being kicked out unfairly is a civil legal matter at that point and should be handled that way.


That isn't the fucking point. Everyone knows the cops just did their job. That's not the issue. The issue is that they where fucking called. Quit talking about the actual arrest. It's irrelevant to the main issue.
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darkjedilink
04/15/18 1:16:20 PM
#95:


InYourWalls1 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
So, show us where that's SB policy.


"An employee called the police for help to get the men out of the store but later regretted that it escalated into an arrest, said a company official familiar with the incident, who declined to give a name to freely describe internal discussions. The employee was doing the right thing according to store policy, the official told The Post, but the company is evaluating its guidance out of concern that the options and decisions may not be clear."

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/04/14/starbucks-apologizes-after-two-black-men-in-philadelphia-were-arrested-after-waiting-at-a-table.html

Well, I guess that settles it.
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RE_expert44
04/15/18 1:17:22 PM
#97:


InYourWalls1 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
So, show us where that's SB policy.


"An employee called the police for help to get the men out of the store but later regretted that it escalated into an arrest, said a company official familiar with the incident, who declined to give a name to freely describe internal discussions. The employee was doing the right thing according to store policy, the official told The Post, but the company is evaluating its guidance out of concern that the options and decisions may not be clear."

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/04/14/starbucks-apologizes-after-two-black-men-in-philadelphia-were-arrested-after-waiting-at-a-table.html

Still though, this story blew up and that employee will be the sacrificial lamb.
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Bishop9800
04/15/18 1:17:51 PM
#98:


Conflict posted...
InYourWalls1 posted...
Bishop9800 posted...
So, show us where that's SB policy.


"An employee called the police for help to get the men out of the store but later regretted that it escalated into an arrest, said a company official familiar with the incident, who declined to give a name to freely describe internal discussions. The employee was doing the right thing according to store policy, the official told The Post, but the company is evaluating its guidance out of concern that the options and decisions may not be clear."

https://www.thestar.com/news/world/2018/04/14/starbucks-apologizes-after-two-black-men-in-philadelphia-were-arrested-after-waiting-at-a-table.html


That doesn't explain what the policy is lol.


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Capn Circus
04/15/18 1:17:54 PM
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The woman filming and writing this said everyone was asking questions.. but didn't film anyone actually doing this. She only chose to film when they got arrested (after refusing to leave). There's much more that wasn't filmed and I'll absolutely bet on them having done something.

It's extremely unlikely they just asked them to leave.
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