Current Events > Black guys arrested at Starbucks for doing nothing, white customers are shocked

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https://mobile.twitter.com/missydepino/status/984539713016094721

That'll teach them to sit around and do nothing!

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People are just going to say there's more to the story meanwhile these men will spend a night in jail for no reason
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Sitting while black.
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see something say something is a great policy amirite guis
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So once the cops arrived, got witness accounts that they did nothing, and weren't even in a struggle with the men in question...why did they still need to be arrested and walked out in cuffs?
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myzz7 posted...

see something say something is a great policy amirite guis

"I saw a man once and I felt subjugated by his manliness so I felt calling the cops was the right answer"
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I'd be lying if I said I was shocked.
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TheVipaGTS posted...

So once the cops arrived, got witness accounts that they did nothing, and weren't even in a struggle with the men in question...why did they still need to be arrested and walked out in cuffs?

Because black?
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Cosmic_Diabetic posted...

I'd be lying if I said I was shocked.

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Why are those black cops so racist against black people?

Literal bicycle cops LMAO
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I too cite tweets from random people as primary sources.
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Fucking ridiculous.

I assume some babby employee is scared of black men existing in space?
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trumps america
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Twitter was made a credible source by your president.

and Admiral.
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twitterfriends posted...

People are just going to say there's more to the story meanwhile these men will spend a night in jail for no reason

that's what's been going on in the replies lol
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TheVipaGTS posted...

So once the cops arrived, got witness accounts that they did nothing, and weren't even in a struggle with the men in question...why did they still need to be arrested and walked out in cuffs?

Sounds fishy, like it's not the whole story.
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g0ldie posted...

Cosmic_Diabetic posted...

I'd be lying if I said I was shocked.

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twitterfriends posted...

People are just going to say there's more to the story meanwhile these men will spend a night in jail for no reason

Because there probably is. I mean a short twitter video which shocker only shows the end and some white guy arguing with them must mean they were arrested for no reason.

I wonder if they got the "you can't be here unless you're paying for something" treatment, and that was the "missing" part of the story? lolololol... even though it's literally Starbucks.
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Imagine thinking we know everything about this story.

Imagine thinking that those bystanders around scene know the whole story.

No one here has any idea what happened, for all we know they could have been criminals and the cops got a tip that they were waiting there for a friend and got there to arrest them in time. They don't need to discuss the details to the public.

Cosmic_Diabetic posted...

I'd be lying if I said I was shocked.

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cardoor123 posted...

Imagine thinking we know everything about this story.

Imagine thinking that those bystanders around scene know the whole story.

No one here has any idea what happened...

-proceeds to speculate.

lolololol
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cardoor123 posted...

Imagine thinking we know everything about this story.

Imagine thinking that those bystanders around scene know the whole story.

No one here has any idea what happened, for all we know they could have been criminals and the cops got a tip that they were waiting there for a friend and got there to arrest them in time. They don't need to discuss the details to the public.

Imagine that they were arrested out of racism. I know you won't but just pretend you did.

So the cops who rolled up know more of the story than those bystanders who were in the Starbucks with the black guys before they were being arrested? They were in a Starbucks, a public place, so those bystanders could see and hear those black guys just as much as the employees or those cops.

So yes I think those bystanders did, in fact, know the whole story. But please go on and talk about how "no one here has any idea what happened" and use that to create facts to make this not seem racist.

EDIT: Oh and guess what? They were real estate brokers. They were waiting for a family friend. But please go on about not knowing the full story. I'm sure that isn't a completely 100% B.S. deflection to hide the racism.
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cardoor123 posted...

Imagine thinking we know everything about this story.

Imagine thinking that those bystanders around scene know the whole story.

No one here has any idea what happened, for all we know they could have been criminals and the cops got a tip that they were waiting there for a friend and got there to arrest them in time. They don't need to discuss the details to the public.

lmao this didn't age well

real estate brokers waiting for their friend who arrived just as they were getting arrested
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https://www.nbcphiladelphia.com/news/local/Outrage-Over-Video-Showing-Two-Black-Men-Arrested-at-Philadelphia-Starbucks-479771543.html

So they were asked to buy something then cops came. While it's bullshit because Starbucks is supposed to be what is effectively a public space that sells coffee the cops at least had a justifiable, if bullshit, reason. Barista and manager should both be fired and blacklisted from ever working at Starbucks and in the service industry ever again
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I guarantee I (white) can walk into any Starbucks and chill for any amount of time without buying anything.
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CapnMuffin posted...

I guarantee I (white) can walk into any Starbucks and chill for any amount of time without buying anything.

And in fact there were other people doing it while they were as has been reported multiple times, completely bewildered by the cops arrival
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CapnMuffin posted...

I guarantee I (white) can walk into any Starbucks and chill for any amount of time without buying anything.

Yep, Starbucks has never had a you must buy something before you can use the restroom or sit down rule. I know this because I used to use SB as a meeting spot multiple times a week and never bought a thing from them ever. Was always able to sit down and use the restroom, no matter which one I went to and I went to so many different ones around town that I feel like Id been to most in the metroplex.
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"The officers said the manager asked them to leave and that if they did not leave the cafe, they would be trespassing," Saahene said. "The two young men politely asked why they were being asked to leave and were not given a reason other than that they hadnt bought something."

Pretty much what was expected. And despite what was said above, Starbucks is not a public place, it's a private business.
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If you're not going to buy anything and chill in a small restaurant with a dozen of your friends, then chill outside. It makes clerks and customers feel uncomfortable in this day and age.

The Admiral posted...

"The officers said the manager asked them to leave and that if they did not leave the cafe, they would be trespassing," Saahene said. "The two young men politely asked why they were being asked to leave and were not given a reason other than that they hadnt bought something."

Pretty much what was expected. And despite what was said above, Starbucks is not a public place, it's a private business.

Starbucks themselves describes themselves as an open place. There is no time limit or a need to buy before using their services. There were also other people doing the same thing as these two gentlemen without being bothered.

FFVII_REMAKE posted...

If you're not going to buy anything and chill in a small restaurant with a dozen of your friends, then chill outside. It makes clerks and customers feel uncomfortable in this day and age.

It was two of them and they were sitting peacefully like any other normal person
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The Admiral posted...

it's a private business.

A private business that has an open door policy and has apologized to these men for how they were treated. The only pertinent question left is why they were treated differently than other people in the restaurant at the time, in violation of corporate policy. The manager needs to be questioned about this.
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The manager asked them to leave so thats all that needs to be said here!

What dumbass logic. If they are there not disturbing others and others are allowed to be in there and use the bathroom without buying anything, then its completely fair to question why they specifically are being targeted.
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Twin3Turbo posted...

Starbucks themselves describes themselves as an open place. There is no time limit or a need to buy before using their services.

Where do you see this? I tried googling and looking on their website but I don't see this advertised anywhere.
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RickyTheBAWSE posted...

I wonder if they got the "you can't be here unless you're paying for something" treatment, and that was the "missing" part of the story? lolololol... even though it's literally Starbucks.

Almost like loitering in or on a business or it's property isn't an offense worthy of the business asking someone to leave if they're not going to patronize said business.
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The Admiral posted...

"The officers said the manager asked them to leave and that if they did not leave the cafe, they would be trespassing," Saahene said. "The two young men politely asked why they were being asked to leave and were not given a reason other than that they hadnt bought something."

Pretty much what was expected. And despite what was said above, Starbucks is not a public place, it's a private business.

But white people don't get arrested for things like 'loitering'.

It's pretty clear racism.
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This still seems weird. Id imagine other black people have done the same thing in the past without incident. Did a barista just freak out because theyre afraid of black people or did a manager misinterpret some kind of action?

I'm mostly curious how it escalated from like 0 to 100. It's pretty obvious the main reason was that they were black. I just want to know what went through everyone's head to make it go from "I'm uncomfortable around black people" to "arrest those thugs".
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RuffledPeanuts posted...

Twin3Turbo posted...

Starbucks themselves describes themselves as an open place. There is no time limit or a need to buy before using their services.

Where do you see this? I tried googling and looking on their website but I don't see this advertised anywhere.

https://billypenn.com/2018/04/14/philly-starbucks-arrests-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont/

At the bottom of the article. It also gives a link to SBs official statement which states this
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Jiek_Fafn posted...

This still seems weird. Id imagine other black people have done the same thing in the past without incident. Did a barista just freak out because theyre afraid of black people or did a manager misinterpret some kind of action?

Yeah, this happened in Philly. It's not like black people being in their store was an unusual occurrence.
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The Admiral posted...

"The officers said the manager asked them to leave and that if they did not leave the cafe, they would be trespassing," Saahene said. "The two young men politely asked why they were being asked to leave and were not given a reason other than that they hadn?t bought something."

Pretty much what was expected. And despite what was said above, Starbucks is not a public place, it's a private business.

I thought you were done shitposting when you ran away from the other topic after embarrassing yourself worse than I've ever seen you embarrass yourself before.
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thanosibe posted...

RickyTheBAWSE posted...

I wonder if they got the "you can't be here unless you're paying for something" treatment, and that was the "missing" part of the story? lolololol... even though it's literally Starbucks.

Almost like loitering in or on a business or it's property isn't an offense worthy of the business asking someone to leave if they're not going to patronize said business.

This does not normally happen in starbucks and the chain ceo is wanting to meet them personally to extend an apology.

There's kind of no point in trying to color it in this light
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Jiek_Fafn posted...

This still seems weird. Id imagine other black people have done the same thing in the past without incident. Did a barista just freak out because theyre afraid of black people or did a manager misinterpret some kind of action?

Yeah, no real judgements in this situation should really be made without hearing from the employees who called the police in the first place

The police statement mentioned the guys were disrespectful to them so perhaps they were the same with the employees
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Twin3Turbo posted...

RuffledPeanuts posted...

Twin3Turbo posted...

Starbucks themselves describes themselves as an open place. There is no time limit or a need to buy before using their services.

Where do you see this? I tried googling and looking on their website but I don't see this advertised anywhere.

https://billypenn.com/2018/04/14/philly-starbucks-arrests-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont/

At the bottom of the article. It also gives a link to SBs official statement which states this

This?

Exactly how Starbucks current policy would have treated this situation. The cafes have traditionally allowed people to linger. In 2009, the company released a statement saying it does not have any time limits for guests: We strive to create a welcoming environment for all of our customers. We do not have any time limits for being in our stores, and continue to focus on making the Third Place experience for every Starbucks customer.

Nothing says anything about no purchase necessary. "Customer", in this quote, implies purchase is actually necessary.
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ImTheMacheteGuy posted...

The Admiral posted...

"The officers said the manager asked them to leave and that if they did not leave the cafe, they would be trespassing," Saahene said. "The two young men politely asked why they were being asked to leave and were not given a reason other than that they hadn?t bought something."

Pretty much what was expected. And despite what was said above, Starbucks is not a public place, it's a private business.

I thought you were done shitposting when you ran away from the other topic after embarrassing yourself worse than I've ever seen you embarrass yourself before.

If by ran away you mean enjoyed a beautiful Saturday outside after you guys got outraged about not knowing the law and hurled insults like chimps throw their faces, sure.
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RuffledPeanuts posted...

Twin3Turbo posted...

RuffledPeanuts posted...

Twin3Turbo posted...

Starbucks themselves describes themselves as an open place. There is no time limit or a need to buy before using their services.

Where do you see this? I tried googling and looking on their website but I don't see this advertised anywhere.

https://billypenn.com/2018/04/14/philly-starbucks-arrests-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont/

At the bottom of the article. It also gives a link to SBs official statement which states this

This?

Exactly how Starbucks current policy would have treated this situation. The cafes have traditionally allowed people to linger. In 2009, the company released a statement saying it does not have any time limits for guests: We strive to create a welcoming environment for all of our customers. We do not have any time limits for being in our stores, and continue to focus on making the Third Place experience for every Starbucks customer.

Nothing says anything about no purchase necessary. "Customer", in this quote, implies purchase is actually necessary.

Read the article that it links to in that text. It specifically talks about SB allowing non paying customers to lounge there helps it over coffee shops that wont allow it
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Twin3Turbo posted...

RuffledPeanuts posted...

Twin3Turbo posted...

RuffledPeanuts posted...

Twin3Turbo posted...

Starbucks themselves describes themselves as an open place. There is no time limit or a need to buy before using their services.

Where do you see this? I tried googling and looking on their website but I don't see this advertised anywhere.

https://billypenn.com/2018/04/14/philly-starbucks-arrests-what-we-know-and-what-we-dont/

At the bottom of the article. It also gives a link to SBs official statement which states this

This?

Exactly how Starbucks current policy would have treated this situation. The cafes have traditionally allowed people to linger. In 2009, the company released a statement saying it does not have any time limits for guests: We strive to create a welcoming environment for all of our customers. We do not have any time limits for being in our stores, and continue to focus on making the Third Place experience for every Starbucks customer.

Nothing says anything about no purchase necessary. "Customer", in this quote, implies purchase is actually necessary.

Read the article that it links to in that text. It specifically talks about SB allowing non paying customers to lounge there helps it over coffee shops that wont allow it

Quote the article because I read it and I don't see anything of the sort. Nothing about "non-paying" customers. "Non-paying" appears nowhere in this link:

https://www.cnet.com/news/starbucks-stay-as-long-as-you-want/

The article is talking about "low rent" customers that purchase only a single coffee and sit there for hours.

Last week, The Wall Street Journal reported that some New York coffee shops were pulling the plug on customers that park themselves at tables, open their laptops, and hang out for hours, buying perhaps only a single latte as their cafe rental fee.

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Sounds like an employee called and said they were trespassing.

I wonder if the employee had already talked to them.

If this is the case the police had a reason to arrest but usually they would just escort off property. I wonder what the guys said.

Anyways sounds like a possibly shitty employee and a poorly handled situation.
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