Current Events > "I Never Meant To Marry A Black Man"

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Man, why do CE's racists seem extra irritated tonight? Trying to cope with daddy trump starting a war in syria?
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-Bungle- posted...

Wait until she discovers the divorce rate of black men married to white women.

It's probably lower than the rate of people that post without reading the topic first.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

-Bungle- posted...

Wait until she discovers the divorce rate of black men married to white women.

It's probably lower than the rate of people that post without reading the topic first.

Doubt it, because that would mean you, and almost everyone here doesn't read them first...
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Asherlee10 posted...

iClockwork posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

She is absolutely entitled to be upset that her parents hold a bigoted stance regarding interracial marriage.

Not if she knew they were bigoted beforehand. Which she did.

You conveniently left this out of what you quoted:

Asherlee10 posted...

It doesn't matter what her prior knowledge of it is.

It doesn't matter because she is allowed and entitled to be upset that her parents hold bigoted views and will not be a part of her life because of it. Her parents are wrong and she is in the right. Her emotions about this are valid and justified.

Yes her prior knowledge of her parents stance absolutely does matter.

"I've known my whole life my parents hold different views from mine. Why do they choose not to participate in those views? I can't believe it."

What a stupid argument.

I remember I had Korean next door neighbors who had only 1 daughter, but they would never associated with us. Not sure if they know I'm half Chinese half Korean judging by my parents. Daughter was pretty friendly to me though.

Her parents have made themselves clear.

They hate black men more than they love her.

-Bungle- posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

-Bungle- posted...

Wait until she discovers the divorce rate of black men married to white women.

It's probably lower than the rate of people that post without reading the topic first.

Doubt it, because that would mean you, and almost everyone here doesn't read them first...

Swing and a miss
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iClockwork posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

iClockwork posted...

Asherlee10 posted...

She is absolutely entitled to be upset that her parents hold a bigoted stance regarding interracial marriage.

Not if she knew they were bigoted beforehand. Which she did.

You conveniently left this out of what you quoted:

Asherlee10 posted...

It doesn't matter what her prior knowledge of it is.

It doesn't matter because she is allowed and entitled to be upset that her parents hold bigoted views and will not be a part of her life because of it. Her parents are wrong and she is in the right. Her emotions about this are valid and justified.

Yes her prior knowledge of her parents stance absolutely does matter.

"I've known my whole life my parents hold different views from mine. Why do they choose not to participate in those views? I can't believe it."

What a stupid argument.

My mother used to constantly tell me that I'm not allowed to date outside of my race, and if I did she'd kick me out. Now I'm engaged to someone of a different race and my mother has been a huge supporter throughout my entire relationship.

It really doesn't seem all that out of the question to put your once prior bigoted beliefs aside and support your children, maybe I'm just lucky Idk.
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iClockwork posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

iClockwork posted...

I mean if she knew her parents would disapprove then it's on her for choosing to marry him. She knew what she was getting into. Can't really fault the parents here.

So she is supposed to make adult life changing decisions solely on what her parents force her to do? If you live like that then boy do you live a poor life.

It's her life so she should be able to do as she pleases, not cater to the every whim of her parents.

Did I say that? No.

She can do whatever she wants except be upset when her parents don't accept her husband since she knew their stance beforehand.

I hope this is low tier bait, otherwise this is some shit for logic. Leave it to CE to defend racism in the dumbest way possible. Amazing.
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Terra-enforcer posted...

iClockwork posted...

Terra-enforcer posted...

iClockwork posted...

I mean if she knew her parents would disapprove then it's on her for choosing to marry him. She knew what she was getting into. Can't really fault the parents here.

So she is supposed to make adult life changing decisions solely on what her parents force her to do? If you live like that then boy do you live a poor life.

It's her life so she should be able to do as she pleases, not cater to the every whim of her parents.

Did I say that? No.

She can do whatever she wants except be upset when her parents don't accept her husband since she knew their stance beforehand.

I hope this is low tier bait, otherwise this is some shit for logic. Leave it to CE to defend racism in the dumbest way possible. Amazing.

I wouldn't call it racism. Does anyone believe in fucking statistics anymore?!
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Yep. Even a Black doctor or lawyer or another college-educated Black man making six figures wouldn't be good enough in their eyes. It's like, as a Black man, what else can you do?

You could not care. They're not your parents so they don't matter.

Also I've seen Asians accept Black People they think are high status like doctors or lawyers or even just like...normal job-having 'successful' Black People.

It's all about status. They'd kill to have their daughter marry say, an NBA player.
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Dragonblade01 posted...

Her parents have made themselves clear.

They hate black men more than they love her.

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-Bungle- posted...

Wait until she discovers the divorce rate of black men married to white women.

About equal to the divorce rate of white women and all none-white men actually. Black men have lower divorce rates with Asian and Hispanic women, white women have high divorce rates with everyone not white, black men have the highest divorce rate with black women strangely enough.
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iClockwork posted...

I mean if she knew her parents would disapprove then it's on her for choosing to marry him. She knew what she was getting into. Can't really fault the parents here.

Yes you can, because they don't (or didn't) care that the guy made their daughter happy; just that now they'd have a Black man in their family.

-Bungle- posted...

Wait until she discovers the divorce rate of black men married to white women.

According to that second blog I mentioned, she and her husband have been married for 15 years. That one was written back in 2012.
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My opinion is that if you know that your parents draw the line at black men, and you're sure that you want to be with him and won't regret it then step over that line but you have to accept the consequences just like you would have to accept sacrificing your own happiness to please your parents if you made the opposite choice.

In short, most Asians are not shy about their biases. Some whites may be raised to not discriminate and then ne shocked when their parents suddenly have a limit on tolerance(this is very common) but it is pure delusion for Asians to act this way. She should have accepted losing her family and not complained.
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Fony posted...

She should have accepted losing her family and not complained.

What an unreasonable thing to say.

Disagree if you want to. I'm black and been through it. Korean girl when I was 19. She never even argued with her parents, literally packed her shit and moved in with me. Eventually they cooled off and apologized. Even to this day they're friendly with me(they own a local business) but She never listened to them after that as far as dating went...and they never tried to buck on her if she was with a non Korean guy again.

All these people that want to cry and be sad are doing the wrong thing. If you don't like it, change it. If you know your family will throw you away for dating outside your race, throw them away and raise your own kids differently. And yes, as shitty as it is,they're entitled to their views. That's not the same as saying they're right.
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Why are asians so racist when it comes to blacks? I'm legit curious
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Fony posted...

Disagree if you want to. I'm black and been through it. Korean girl when I was 19. She never even argued with her parents, literally packed her shit and moved in with me. Eventually they cooled off and apologized. Even to this day they're friendly with me(they own a local business) but She never listened to them after that as far as dating went...and they never tried to buck on her if she was with a non Korean guy again.

All these people that want to cry and be sad are doing the wrong thing. If you don't like it, change it. If you know your family will throw you away for dating outside your race, throw them away and raise your own kids differently. And yes, as shitty as it is,they're entitled to their views. That's not the same as saying they're right.

Nothing you just posted has anything to do with the fact that she has every right to be upset with their reaction. Knowing somebody is going to react horribly doesn't change anything about how horrible the reaction is. And a horrible reaction is always something that's worth being upset about.

FrisbeeDude posted...

Why are asians so racist when it comes to blacks? I'm legit curious

1. Stereotypes based on what they see in the media.

2. More pragmatically, some may own stores in inner cities and have been victim of crimes committed by Black criminals or otherwise been witness to unruly behavior from the locals.

3. Asian cultures' own beliefs about light skin vs. dark skin.

4. The idea that forming relationships with White people (romantic or otherwise) will increase their status in society, whereas doing so with Black people will lower it and earn the derision of their peers and family.

Of course, these don't apply for all Asians, but it explains some things about those who feel this way.
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FrisbeeDude posted...

Why are asians so racist when it comes to blacks? I'm legit curious

In a lot of Asian cultures, dark skinned people (including dark skinned Asians) are seen as unattractive. Combine that with how the image Black people are portrayed AND portray themselves as in media, they build assumptions on that. That we're ghetto, uneducated, rebellious, etc.

Dragonblade01 posted...

Fony posted...

Disagree if you want to. I'm black and been through it. Korean girl when I was 19. She never even argued with her parents, literally packed her shit and moved in with me. Eventually they cooled off and apologized. Even to this day they're friendly with me(they own a local business) but She never listened to them after that as far as dating went...and they never tried to buck on her if she was with a non Korean guy again.

All these people that want to cry and be sad are doing the wrong thing. If you don't like it, change it. If you know your family will throw you away for dating outside your race, throw them away and raise your own kids differently. And yes, as shitty as it is,they're entitled to their views. That's not the same as saying they're right.

Nothing you just posted has anything to do with the fact that she has every right to be upset with their reaction. Knowing somebody is going to react horribly doesn't change anything about how horrible the reaction is. And a horrible reaction is always something that's worth being upset about.

She's wrong for trying to reason with them, not for being hurt by it.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

-Bungle- posted...

Wait until she discovers the divorce rate of black men married to white women.

It's probably lower than the rate of people that post without reading the topic first.

oof
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Solar_Crimson posted...

FrisbeeDude posted...

Why are asians so racist when it comes to blacks? I'm legit curious

1. Stereotypes based on what they see in the media.

2. More pragmatically, some may own stores in inner cities and have been victim of crimes committed by Black criminals or otherwise been witness to unruly behavior from the locals.

3. Asian cultures' own beliefs about light skin vs. dark skin.

4. The idea that forming relationships with White people (romantic or otherwise) will increase their status in society, whereas doing so with Black people will lower it and earn the derision of their peers and family.

Of course, these don't apply for all Asians, but it explains some things about those who feel this way.

Pretty accurate. With the story I mentioned with my brother, I believe it was all of those things that made the parents racist but #2 in particular. Supposedly, a black guy mugged or stole from the father once.

I think the ignorance is attributing behavior to race or skin color when it seems like more of a class issue.
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Not necessarily true. Did you know certain Chinese posters like Lao Ting on asiafinest.com/forums said that tan skin is more for guys and light skin for girls going against the ancient culture that lighter skin are for royals and tan skin for farmers in today's world. :)

I notice this a lot with Asians, and its not just the parents. A lot of my East Asian friends have said they would never consider dating a black person, I prefer not to associate with ghetto culture.
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Vol2tex posted...

Pretty accurate. With the story I mentioned with my brother, I believe it was all of those things that made the parents racist but #2 in particular. Supposedly, a black guy mugged or stole from the father once.

I think the ignorance is attributing behavior to race or skin color when it seems like more of a class issue.

Classism is also part of the issue in some Asian cultures as well. Darker-skinned people are seen as low class workers, while the lighter-skinned ones are more elite.

This is taken up to eleven in American society, at least.

They seem to give a benefit of a doubt to White people, but Black people are guilty automatically and someone who hasn't done anything wrong has to work more than twice as hard to dispel those beliefs, and even then, it may not be enough.

-Henri posted...

I notice this a lot with Asians, and its not just the parents. A lot of my East Asian friends have said they would never consider dating a black person, I prefer not to associate with ghetto culture.

Which kind of has the implication that they'd sooner date a White person from the inner city, than a Black person born and raised in the suburbs.
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Which kind of has the implication that they'd sooner date a White person from the inner city, than a Black person born and raised in the suburbs.

They would. There was a point in my life where all I could get were Asian girls, and sometimes black. Asians have no standards at all for white people. Sucks.

Hopefully in a few generations, shit like that will have changed for the better.
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-Bungle- posted...

I wouldn't call it racism. Does anyone believe in fucking statistics anymore?!

The usual suspects here know them by heart.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Yes you can, because they don't (or didn't) care that the guy made their daughter happy; just that now they'd have a Black man in their family.

They disowned their daughter so technically she isn't part of the family along with her husband. They remain a pure white family.

iClockwork posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

Yes you can, because they don't (or didn't) care that the guy made their daughter happy; just that now they'd have a Black man in their family.

They disowned their daughter so technically she isn't part of the family along with her husband. They remain a pure white family.

1. They're Asian. Vietnamese, to be specific.

2. As mentioned earlier in the topic, they finally accepted him as their daughter's husband after she gave birth.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

iClockwork posted...

Solar_Crimson posted...

Yes you can, because they don't (or didn't) care that the guy made their daughter happy; just that now they'd have a Black man in their family.

They disowned their daughter so technically she isn't part of the family along with her husband. They remain a pure white family.

1. They're Asian. Vietnamese, to be specific.

2. As mentioned earlier in the topic, they finally accepted him as their daughter's husband after she gave birth.

I wish these trolls would at least learn how to read.
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Basically any parents besides black parents dont want their daughter dating a black dude.
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probably racialist but I seriously couldn't imagine myself in a serious relationship with someone non black at this point of my life, so I kind of shrug stories like this off.
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MrDrMan posted...

Basically any parents besides black parents dont want their daughter dating a black dude.

That's what it seems like, unfortunately.

@coolboy11 posted...

probably racialist but I seriously couldn't imagine myself in a serious relationship with someone non black at this point of my life, so I kind of shrug stories like this off.

Out of curiosity, why is that?

Even though I see myself married to an Asian woman (my preference), with me turning 30 next month, I feel like the ship is probably going to sell soon (if it hasn't already) for that, and I may end up marrying a Black woman in the end.
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Black chicks aren't my number one preference. Still, I cant see myself marrying anyone else either.

Theres so much shit that goes along with dating someone outside your race its just a pain.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

Hopefully in a few generations, shit like that will have changed for the better.

I'm not very hopeful. You have young koreans, on camera, proclaiming how impressed with how good the women in black panther looked. They're literally used to the idea that black people are predisposed to being ugly
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>responding to tehdud and clockwork
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MrDrMan posted...

Black chicks aren't my number one preference. Still, I cant see myself marrying anyone else either.

Theres so much shit that goes along with dating someone outside your race its just a pain.

I preferred white women when i was younger but as Ive gotten older Ive meet more attractive black womens and become more aware of the racial issues in relationships

Barely looked at a white woman in 8 years
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FrisbeeDude posted...

I'm not very hopeful. You have young koreans, on camera, proclaiming how impressed with how good the women in black panther looked. They're literally used to the idea that black people are predisposed to being ugly

Well, I meant more in the context of the US (Asian countries will take a lot more work), but I guess you have a point. Especially if those young Koreans move to the US.

gamepimp12 posted...

MrDrMan posted...

Black chicks aren't my number one preference. Still, I cant see myself marrying anyone else either.

Theres so much shit that goes along with dating someone outside your race its just a pain.

I preferred white women when i was younger but as Ive gotten older Ive meet more attractive black womens and become more aware of the racial issues in relationships

Barely looked at a white woman in 8 years

I admit that it can be rather discouraging. Plus, with the serious lack of male role models in the Black community and that many educated Black women are seeking Black men who are at their level or at least have their head on straight with a stable career, part of me feels that I'd be doing a disservice by dating/marrying a non-Black woman.

Not that I don't like Black women, but I do have my own preferences...
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Why do you prefer non black women though? If you knew two women who were thin, pretty, smart and you got along with you would seriously prefer the one of a different race? Lmao. Wish I could feel bad for you. As many non black women as I have been with(and i'm marrying a very pretty white woman soon) I still would put a black woman who meets my standards at the top. Too bad I've met less than 10 in my whole life and they were all taken.
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@Fony posted...

Why do you prefer non black women though? If you knew two women who were thin, pretty, smart and you got along with you would seriously prefer the one of a different race? Lmao. Wish I could feel bad for you. As many non black women as I have been with(and i'm marrying a very pretty white woman soon) I still would put a black woman who meets my standards at the top. Too bad I've met less than 10 in my whole life and they were all taken.

Specifically, it's Asian women, not all non-Black women. That said, perhaps it's a "grass is greener" thing, but it's also because I like the physical features of Asian women. I'm not sure why it's something to feel bad about, though.
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Solar_Crimson posted...

@Fony posted...

Why do you prefer non black women though? If you knew two women who were thin, pretty, smart and you got along with you would seriously prefer the one of a different race? Lmao. Wish I could feel bad for you. As many non black women as I have been with(and i'm marrying a very pretty white woman soon) I still would put a black woman who meets my standards at the top. Too bad I've met less than 10 in my whole life and they were all taken.

Specifically, it's Asian women, not all non-Black women. That said, perhaps it's a "grass is greener" thing, but it's also because I like the physical features of Asian women. I'm not sure why it's something to feel bad about, though.

Fetish and stereotype. I hope you never touch an Asian woman ever, because they're "ideas" to you and not human beings obviously. And What do you even mean by Asian? Japanese? Korean? Chinese(there's like 6 major different chinese phenotypes)? Thai? Cambodian? Filipino? Laotian? Polynesian?
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That's really unfortunate. You'd think seeing your daughter happy and being treated well would be enough to overlook race regardless of what your prejudices might be.
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