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antfair
04/12/18 12:51:17 PM
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CableZL
04/12/18 12:52:12 PM
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Kazi1212
04/12/18 12:53:07 PM
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He changes his opinions as he gets new information, not many politicians have such integrity, kudos
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spudger
04/12/18 12:54:05 PM
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Guys hes just smart enough to change!

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JeanAmpteau
04/12/18 12:54:22 PM
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Trump supporters couldn't tell you the first thing about the TPP, yet they know they hate it.. But they would suddenly love it (still whilst not knowing anything about it) if Trump endorsed this idea.
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Bishop9800
04/12/18 12:54:28 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
He changes his opinions as he gets new information, not many politicians have such integrity, kudos


If that's what you want to call it, then go ahead.
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metralo
04/12/18 12:54:43 PM
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suddenly cultists on this board will praise TPP to the high heavens
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DarkChozoGhost
04/12/18 12:54:44 PM
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So he's trying to undo the one good thing he's done in office.
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masterpug53
04/12/18 1:03:10 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
So he's trying to undo the one good thing he's done in office.


Came in to post this almost verbatim.
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deanshow
04/12/18 1:05:57 PM
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He wants to reform diamond dogs?
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Webmaster4531
04/12/18 1:06:29 PM
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TPP has always had major Republican support. Every conservatroll just saw Obama supported it so it was "liberal".
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CableZL
04/12/18 1:06:58 PM
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voldothegr8
04/12/18 1:09:21 PM
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Some guy on Twitter said so it must be true
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Anteaterking
04/12/18 1:10:06 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Some guy on Twitter said so it must be true


Dude, I don't know if this is the route you want to take on this...
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Antifar
04/12/18 1:10:23 PM
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Webmaster4531 posted...
TPP has always had major Republican support. Every conservatroll just saw Obama supported it so it was "liberal".

Right, but it has not always had major Trump support. Opposition to it and similar deals was really a cornerstone of his campaign. He probably won the midwest because of his stance on trade.
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758761945910669312
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/709423676425379841
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758233935230959617
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/651136309029834752
https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/758135085820416000
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MC_BatCommander
04/12/18 1:10:58 PM
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wtf we love TPP now
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Medussa
04/12/18 1:11:07 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
So he's trying to undo the one good thing he's done in office.


Came in to post this almost verbatim.


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0AbsoluteZero0
04/12/18 1:11:23 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Some guy on Twitter said so it must be true

And yet we all know youre gonna be slurping the TPP as soon as Dear Leader Trump officially supports it with a presidential tweet
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Antifar
04/12/18 1:11:33 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
Some guy on Twitter said so it must be true

To be clear, the some guy is the Senator from Nebraska, speaking to reporters

https://twitter.com/colvinj/status/984476061059645440
https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/984467646723837952

The Senator even put out a statement: https://twitter.com/SenSasse/status/984473089546375168
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refmon
04/12/18 1:12:34 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
He changes his opinions as he gets new information, not many politicians have such integrity, kudos

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JeanAmpteau
04/12/18 1:13:43 PM
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Antifar posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Some guy on Twitter said so it must be true

To be clear, the some guy is the Senator from Nebraska, speaking to reporters

https://twitter.com/colvinj/status/984476061059645440
https://twitter.com/esaagar/status/984467646723837952

The Senator even put out a statement: https://twitter.com/SenSasse/status/984473089546375168


Lol, wrecked.
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MC_BatCommander
04/12/18 1:15:29 PM
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refmon posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
He changes his opinions as he gets new information, not many politicians have such integrity, kudos


That's not what Trump does tho, he ignores blatant facts in favor of his opinion
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Shuto-uke
04/12/18 1:16:10 PM
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metralo posted...
suddenly cultists on this board will praise TPP to the high heavens
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EverDownward
04/12/18 1:16:27 PM
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Wasn't he against the TPP a couple years ago? What changed?
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voldothegr8
04/12/18 1:17:11 PM
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0AbsoluteZero0 posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
Some guy on Twitter said so it must be true

And yet we all know youre gonna be slurping the TPP as soon as Dear Leader Trump officially supports it with a presidential tweet

No I won't, fuck trade deals. Especially trade deals with all kinds of "fuck internet freedom" written all over them.
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foreveraIone
04/12/18 1:19:05 PM
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voldothegr8 posted...
No I won't, fuck trade deals. Especially trade deals with all kinds of "fuck internet freedom" written all over them.

yes you will.
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Shuto-uke
04/12/18 1:20:21 PM
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This may actually be a strategic move.

If he is truly in Putin's pocket and wants to weaken the west to help Russia, he can't allow the west (sans america) to have free trade thanks to the TPP.

How can he weaken the west and the TPP? Join it so he can try to get all of the shitty IP and big corp articles that we had demanded TPP included in the past so the other countries refuse to sign it. Voila! TPP is dead.

Think about it, wouldn't the threat to end NAFTA be far emptier if Canada and Mexico could still trade with us thanks to the TPP?
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TheVipaGTS
04/12/18 1:21:29 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
He changes his opinions as he gets new information, not many politicians have such integrity, kudos

what "new information" did he get?
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BLAKUboy
04/12/18 1:30:10 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
This may actually be a strategic move.

If he is truly in Putin's pocket and wants to weaken the west to help Russia, he can't allow the west (sans america) to have free trade thanks to the TPP.

How can he weaken the west and the TPP? Join it so he can try to get all of the shitty IP and big corp articles that we had demanded TPP included in the past so the other countries refuse to sign it. Voila! TPP is dead.

Think about it, wouldn't the threat to end NAFTA be far emptier if Canada and Mexico could still trade with us thanks to the TPP?

More likely this is an attempt to strike a blow to China, who has been using Trump's withdrawal from the TPP (among other actions, or lack thereof, of Trump's America) to replace America as the world's superpower.
Basically Trump, as per usual, didn't care about the consequences of his actions and now has to cleanup his own mess.
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Kazi1212
04/12/18 1:30:10 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
He changes his opinions as he gets new information, not many politicians have such integrity, kudos

what "new information" did he get?


I dont have access to insider information like he does, perhaps he received some verbal confirmation from the nations within the TPP that the US would potentially receive better benefits by joining, theres no way of knowing
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DifferentialEquation
04/12/18 1:31:27 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
He changes his opinions as he gets new information, not many politicians have such integrity, kudos

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TheVipaGTS
04/12/18 1:31:33 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
He changes his opinions as he gets new information, not many politicians have such integrity, kudos

what "new information" did he get?


I dont have access to insider information like he does, perhaps he received some verbal confirmation from the nations within the TPP that the US would potentially receive better benefits by joining, theres no way of knowing

how is that not "information" he didn't hear a year ago? that's probably where most people giving him information would start, no?
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Kazi1212
04/12/18 1:34:50 PM
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TheVipaGTS posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
He changes his opinions as he gets new information, not many politicians have such integrity, kudos

what "new information" did he get?


I dont have access to insider information like he does, perhaps he received some verbal confirmation from the nations within the TPP that the US would potentially receive better benefits by joining, theres no way of knowing

how is that not "information" he didn't hear a year ago? that's probably where most people giving him information would start, no?


Its the very possible nations within the TPP changes their tune regarding the amount of benefits the US would get out of the deal after seeing Trump didnt just roll over and join the first go around. If thats the case, then that was a great negotiation tactic by Trump, playing 4-d chess
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NibeIungsnarf
04/12/18 1:38:31 PM
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Pulling out of the TPP was pretty much a campaign promise. How do you change the political point you get elected on with "new information"? Shouldn't you resign then?
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metralo
04/12/18 1:46:32 PM
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Kazi1212 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
TheVipaGTS posted...
Kazi1212 posted...
He changes his opinions as he gets new information, not many politicians have such integrity, kudos

what "new information" did he get?


I dont have access to insider information like he does, perhaps he received some verbal confirmation from the nations within the TPP that the US would potentially receive better benefits by joining, theres no way of knowing

how is that not "information" he didn't hear a year ago? that's probably where most people giving him information would start, no?


Its the very possible nations within the TPP changes their tune regarding the amount of benefits the US would get out of the deal after seeing Trump didnt just roll over and join the first go around. If thats the case, then that was a great negotiation tactic by Trump, playing 4-d chess


lol shut the fuck up. any information he gets is from fox and friends. he literally doesn't listen to anything else.
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Shuto-uke
04/12/18 1:48:40 PM
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BLAKUboy posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
This may actually be a strategic move.

If he is truly in Putin's pocket and wants to weaken the west to help Russia, he can't allow the west (sans america) to have free trade thanks to the TPP.

How can he weaken the west and the TPP? Join it so he can try to get all of the shitty IP and big corp articles that we had demanded TPP included in the past so the other countries refuse to sign it. Voila! TPP is dead.

Think about it, wouldn't the threat to end NAFTA be far emptier if Canada and Mexico could still trade with us thanks to the TPP?

More likely this is an attempt to strike a blow to China, who has been using Trump's withdrawal from the TPP (among other actions, or lack thereof, of Trump's America) to replace America as the world's superpower.
Basically Trump, as per usual, didn't care about the consequences of his actions and now has to cleanup his own mess.


That is what infuriates me. Everybody told him that it was a terrible idea. Everybody told him that this would endanger our leverage vs China. Everybody told him the implications of leaving the TPP. But he want ahead and did it anyway.

We're also telling him now that calling latin america a continent of rapists and criminals, africa a continent of shithole countries and antagonizing them just to throw red meat to his alt right electorate will end bringing china closer to those 2 places, and he is still ignoring the warnings. We'll see how it plays out.
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cerealbox760
04/12/18 2:00:04 PM
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Trump figured tariffs weren't going to work because tariffs are dumb. And the TPP slows down Chinese influence. China was laughing to bank when trump said no to the tpp. Trump should've negotiated better terms from the get go considering he's the 'greatest most divine negotiator' of our time. Instead he ran from it. Somehow trumpers will scream 4d chess. TPP was unpopular with socialist Bernie and the TPP had had substantial Republican support along with Obama and Hillary. American politics is a circus full of hypocrisy.
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DavidWong
04/12/18 5:55:31 PM
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Great news. See, protectionism does not work!
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Shuto-uke
04/12/18 5:58:03 PM
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DavidWong posted...
Great news. See, protectionism does not work!


The TPP countries won't let us back in LOL, unless we want to take their treaty as-is, they won't reopen it to negotiation so we can try to add the stuff they already took out once we left.
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CruelBuffalo
04/12/18 7:14:14 PM
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Wasnt the TPP supposed to help us get an edge over China in terms of trade and help us get a legal recourse to Chinese IP fraud? Or am I misremembering that? There was so much misinformation around it that I have a hard time remembering what was true.


Not Chinese IP fraud, since China isnt in it. But yes with IP fraud with the other countries.
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Sayoria
04/12/18 7:15:33 PM
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Trump supporters: YAY, we are no longer in the TPP!
Also Trump supporters: YAY, he is looking to get us back into the TPP!
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Axiom
04/12/18 7:16:14 PM
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Backing out of the one thing that had many supporters from both sides. Smart
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PtlessAgmnts
04/12/18 7:17:48 PM
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masterpug53 posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
So he's trying to undo the one good thing he's done in office.


Came in to post this almost verbatim.
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SuperShake666
04/12/18 7:18:55 PM
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DarkChozoGhost posted...
So he's trying to undo the one good thing he's done in office.


Fucking this. Goddammit Dorito Mussolini.
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ThanksUglyGod
04/12/18 7:19:58 PM
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Quick! Someone remind him that Obama supported TPP!
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Bio1590
04/12/18 7:21:22 PM
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The interesting thing here is that every country still in this thing has already signed it, so if the US is looking to rejoin on the condition shit gets added back in (which was the shit everyone thought it was the worst thing ever for) I don't think it's going to happen.
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Medussa
04/12/18 7:22:58 PM
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SuperShake666 posted...
DarkChozoGhost posted...
So he's trying to undo the one good thing he's done in office.


Fucking this. Goddammit Dorito Mussolini.


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spudger
04/12/18 7:43:11 PM
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Shuto-uke posted...
metralo posted...
suddenly cultists on this board will praise TPP to the high heavens

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The Great Muta 22
04/13/18 8:59:09 AM
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spudger posted...
Shuto-uke posted...
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