Current Events > Why do men in Islam not have to cover themselves like the women do?

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This seems very sexist.

Because men made the rules.
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They are supposed to dress modestly as well but they don't, because no one will enforce the rules on them like they enforce it on women.

Because not covering your face in Sharia Law grants permission for a man to rape you, but homosexuality is considered a sin?
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Because the sight of a woman's figure disgusts them. Why do you think they banned porn?
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lol I remembered when I was in college pretty much all the Muslim dudes drank, smoked and smoked weed. heck, most of the ones I still keep in touch with are regular smokers and still drink whenever.

but despite all that Haram degeneracy they won't touch pork or bacon flavor snacks/chips lmfao
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Men aren't seen as property.
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Trayvon posted...

lol I remembered when I was in college pretty much all the Muslim dudes drank, smoked and smoked weed. heck, most of the ones I still keep in touch with are regular smokers and still drink whenever.

but despite all that Haram degeneracy they won't touch pork or bacon flavor snacks/chips lmfao

Well to he fair pork is pretty nasty of a meat with a lot of substitutions in its place. Theres only one kind of booze or weed, pork can be replaced.
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Letron_James posted...

Trayvon posted...

lol I remembered when I was in college pretty much all the Muslim dudes drank, smoked and smoked weed. heck, most of the ones I still keep in touch with are regular smokers and still drink whenever.

but despite all that Haram degeneracy they won't touch pork or bacon flavor snacks/chips lmfao

Well to he fair pork is pretty nasty of a meat with a lot of substitutions in its place. Theres only one kind of booze or weed, pork can be replaced.

what?

Trayvon posted...

lol I remembered when I was in college pretty much all the Muslim dudes drank, smoked and smoked weed. heck, most of the ones I still keep in touch with are regular smokers and still drink whenever.

but despite all that Haram degeneracy they won't touch pork or bacon flavor snacks/chips lmfao

this is basically most westernized muslims
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Fam_Fam posted...

Letron_James posted...

Trayvon posted...

lol I remembered when I was in college pretty much all the Muslim dudes drank, smoked and smoked weed. heck, most of the ones I still keep in touch with are regular smokers and still drink whenever.

but despite all that Haram degeneracy they won't touch pork or bacon flavor snacks/chips lmfao

Well to he fair pork is pretty nasty of a meat with a lot of substitutions in its place. Theres only one kind of booze or weed, pork can be replaced.

what?

The feeling you get from drinking alcohol or smoking weed is specific to those drugs. There are plenty of meats besides nasty ass pig to eat. Im not even Muslim but how people can eat literal tubs of lard that eat their own shit and bathe in it constantly is beyond me.
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Trayvon posted...

lol I remembered when I was in college pretty much all the Muslim dudes drank, smoked and smoked weed. heck, most of the ones I still keep in touch with are regular smokers and still drink whenever.

but despite all that Haram degeneracy they won't touch pork or bacon flavor snacks/chips lmfao

Yeah, it's funny to me as well that it's the one rule they all adhere to. Most don't even seem serious about praying or other religious things, at least I never see them doing it.

Letron_James posted...

The feeling you get from drinking alcohol or smoking weed is specific to those drugs. There are plenty of meats besides nasty ass pig to eat. Im not even Muslim but how people can eat literal tubs of lard that eat their own shit and bathe in it constantly is beyond me.

To be fair, literally every animal is pretty disgusting and lives in pretty filthy conditions. Birds are pretty much shitting all over themselves 24/7, and if you've ever been around cows you'd know they aren't much better. You can smell those mofos from miles away.
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Because to them women are property and can't have other dudes browsing their goods.
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LethalAffinity posted...

Men aren't seen as property.

neither are women in Islam

the answer I've always heard is that supposedly corruption comes from the woman's form, so to minimize the corruption and temptation they should cover themselves for modesty
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Why do women in Western societies have to cover their breasts in public while men can go topless?

Letron_James posted...

literal tubs of lard that eat their own shit and bathe in it constantly is beyond me.

sounds like you created a reality in your head consistent with what you want to believe
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

LethalAffinity posted...

Men aren't seen as property.

neither are women in Islam

the answer I've always heard is that supposedly corruption comes from the woman's form, so to minimize the corruption and temptation they should cover themselves for modesty

did it ever occur to you that it gets really fucking hot in the middle east, and the covers are used to protect people from the sun
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Ammonitida posted...

Why do women in Western societies have to cover their breasts in public while men can go topless?

Pretty sure in most states it isn't illegal for women to go topless. They simply don't want all the thirsties ogling them or worse.
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averagejoel posted...

did it ever occur to you that it gets really fucking hot in the middle east, and the covers are used to protect people from the sun

that doesn't answer why men don't have to cover their bodies and face in more conservative and/or Shariah Law governed places

They will wear head coverings at most
but there's no burka/burqa for men
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YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Letron_James posted...

literal tubs of lard that eat their own shit and bathe in it constantly is beyond me.

sounds like you created a reality in your head consistent with what you want to believe

Yeah almost as if i have never been to a farm multiple times that has chickens, pigs, cows and sheep.

Pigs eat other pigs, roll around in shit and eat said shit+whatever else is in front of them. Pork isnt even a top 10 meat, only reason why its so loved here is because people like to drink bacon juice by the gallon.

You actually have to feed chickens/cows decent food if you want them to grow to a good size, you can take a taco bell shit in a pigs mouth and that will be enough to get it through to slaughter day
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averagejoel posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

LethalAffinity posted...

Men aren't seen as property.

neither are women in Islam

the answer I've always heard is that supposedly corruption comes from the woman's form, so to minimize the corruption and temptation they should cover themselves for modesty

did it ever occur to you that it gets really fucking hot in the middle east, and the covers are used to protect people from the sun

Thats weird. Once in the middle of summer I saw a Muslim family in Walmart, the father was in a polo shirt, cargo shorts, and some flip flops. His wife was covered head to toe in black robes with only her eyes showing.

For some reason I feel like the father was more comfortable.

Letron_James posted...

Yeah almost as if i have never been to a farm multiple times that has chickens, pigs, cows and sheep.

I've also seen farms with pigs laying in the mud (it cools their bodies), chickens roaming free and sheep kept in mostly clean pastures - the cows are the only animals consistently in more rugged, dirty conditions

Thankfully I understand how biology and chemistry and all that works on a basic level
So I know that just because an animal has been rolling around in dirt and filth
it doesn't mean their meat is tainted

Chickens are more gross than pigs - they'll ACTUALLY eat pretty much anything
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voldothegr8 posted...

Ammonitida posted...

Why do women in Western societies have to cover their breasts in public while men can go topless?

Pretty sure in most states it isn't illegal for women to go topless. They simply don't want all the thirsties ogling them or worse.

True but;

Though the majority of states are top free, some cities in those states have passed (unconstitutional) ordinances that annul the states top free statute.

In all states men can go topless. In only 33 can women do the same in theory.

gamer167 posted...

This seems very sexist.

Welcome to Islam

Letron_James posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

Letron_James posted...

literal tubs of lard that eat their own shit and bathe in it constantly is beyond me.

sounds like you created a reality in your head consistent with what you want to believe

Yeah almost as if i have never been to a farm multiple times that has chickens, pigs, cows and sheep.

Pigs eat other pigs, roll around in shit and eat said shit+whatever else is in front of them. Pork isnt even a top 10 meat, only reason why its so loved here is because people like to drink bacon juice by the gallon.

You actually have to feed chickens/cows decent food if you want them to grow to a good size, you can take a taco bell shit in a pigs mouth and that will be enough to get it through to slaughter day

Which Cows and Chickens do anyways, so why even eat those?
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Ammonitida posted...

In all states men can go topless. In only 33 can women do the same in theory.

Men going "topless" doesn't make much sense to me since they don't wear bras.

Shirtless seems like the most suitable term.
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LightHawKnight posted...

Which Cows and Chickens do anyways, so why even eat those?

he's just someone so ignorant he thinks pigs are in mud cause they're lazy

pigs are smarter than dogs lmfao bit of a shame we bred em to be eaten
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"Because men made the rules."

This.
A male dominated, male oriented, and male centric religion would of course see themselves as completely above the fairer sex. And the fairer sex as submissive to themselves.

It is odd how American Liberals continue to defend non-Westernized Muslims.....
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HiddenLurker posted...

A male dominated, male oriented, and male centric religion would of course see themselves as completely above the fairer sex. And the fairer sex as submissive to themselves.

taken out of context, this is also an accurate description of christianity in North America
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HiddenLurker posted...

It is odd how American Liberals continue to defend non-Westernized Muslims.....

American liberals replaced children with pets and pets with minorities.
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averagejoel posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

A male dominated, male oriented, and male centric religion would of course see themselves as completely above the fairer sex. And the fairer sex as submissive to themselves.

taken out of context, this is also an accurate description of christianity in North America

You wish.

averagejoel posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

A male dominated, male oriented, and male centric religion would of course see themselves as completely above the fairer sex. And the fairer sex as submissive to themselves.

taken out of context, this is also an accurate description of christianity in North America

Ah yes, the ol "B-b-b-b-but Christians!" retort.
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At least they don't have the problems with women that American men do...
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Volkswagen_Bros posted...

averagejoel posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

A male dominated, male oriented, and male centric religion would of course see themselves as completely above the fairer sex. And the fairer sex as submissive to themselves.

taken out of context, this is also an accurate description of christianity in North America

Ah yes, the ol "B-b-b-b-but Christians!" retort.

It's still true.

Volkswagen_Bros posted...

averagejoel posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

A male dominated, male oriented, and male centric religion would of course see themselves as completely above the fairer sex. And the fairer sex as submissive to themselves.

taken out of context, this is also an accurate description of christianity in North America

Ah yes, the ol "B-b-b-b-but Christians!" retort.

it's a valid retort when so many people delude themselves into thinking that one is worse than the other
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Primal_Greninja posted...

averagejoel posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

A male dominated, male oriented, and male centric religion would of course see themselves as completely above the fairer sex. And the fairer sex as submissive to themselves.

taken out of context, this is also an accurate description of christianity in North America

You wish.

Growing up female (male-identified now) and in a very Christian household, I wish otherwise.

averagejoel posted...

Volkswagen_Bros posted...

averagejoel posted...

HiddenLurker posted...

A male dominated, male oriented, and male centric religion would of course see themselves as completely above the fairer sex. And the fairer sex as submissive to themselves.

taken out of context, this is also an accurate description of christianity in North America

Ah yes, the ol "B-b-b-b-but Christians!" retort.

it's a valid retort when so many people delude themselves into thinking that one is worse than the other

Islam easily takes the cake.
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"it's a valid retort when so many people delude themselves into thinking that one is worse than the other"

Funny never heard in Christianity that the man can have multiple wives....
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They cover their faces with beards instead of veils
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HiddenLurker posted...

"it's a valid retort when so many people delude themselves into thinking that one is worse than the other"

Funny never heard in Christianity that the man can have multiple wives....

We have Christian cults in the US where men having multiple wives is part of their culture. See Warren Jeffs.

averagejoel posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

LethalAffinity posted...

Men aren't seen as property.

neither are women in Islam

the answer I've always heard is that supposedly corruption comes from the woman's form, so to minimize the corruption and temptation they should cover themselves for modesty

did it ever occur to you that it gets really fucking hot in the middle east, and the covers are used to protect people from the sun

Yea thats why its usually black right

HiddenLurker posted...

"it's a valid retort when so many people delude themselves into thinking that one is worse than the other"

Funny never heard in Christianity that the man can have multiple wives....

You should probably read the Bible then.

Hulkasaurusrex posted...

averagejoel posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

LethalAffinity posted...

Men aren't seen as property.

neither are women in Islam

the answer I've always heard is that supposedly corruption comes from the woman's form, so to minimize the corruption and temptation they should cover themselves for modesty

did it ever occur to you that it gets really fucking hot in the middle east, and the covers are used to protect people from the sun

Yea thats why its usually black right

Yeah, black absorbs heat (light). White reflects it. That's why most Arabian desert dwellers wear white robes.

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

LethalAffinity posted...

Men aren't seen as property.

neither are women in Islam

the answer I've always heard is that supposedly corruption comes from the woman's form, so to minimize the corruption and temptation they should cover themselves for modesty

The women in islam are treated like property, depending on the local culture. In Saudi Arabia, men are the legal guardians of their sisters and wives.

averagejoel posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

LethalAffinity posted...

Men aren't seen as property.

neither are women in Islam

the answer I've always heard is that supposedly corruption comes from the woman's form, so to minimize the corruption and temptation they should cover themselves for modesty

did it ever occur to you that it gets really fucking hot in the middle east, and the covers are used to protect people from the sun

That's not why they do it though. They do it when they reach puberty as a rite of passage into womanhood. They have 'matured sexually' in their eyes so it's about keeping the eyes of other men off their bodies. Sometimes they stop after menopause. A somewhat disturbing trend lately is that even younger girls are being told to cover up; as though they are being viewed as sexual objects at an even earlier age.
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Kolibri X posted...

averagejoel posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

LethalAffinity posted...

Men aren't seen as property.

neither are women in Islam

the answer I've always heard is that supposedly corruption comes from the woman's form, so to minimize the corruption and temptation they should cover themselves for modesty

did it ever occur to you that it gets really fucking hot in the middle east, and the covers are used to protect people from the sun

That's not why they do it though. They do it when they reach puberty as a rite of passage into womanhood. They have 'matured sexually' in their eyes so it's about keeping the eyes of other men off their bodies. Sometimes they stop after menopause. A somewhat disturbing trend lately is that even younger girls are being told to cover up; as though they are being viewed as sexual objects at an even earlier age.

out of context, everything about this post is applicable to US culture
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It is sexist. It's about controlling women.
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averagejoel posted...

Kolibri X posted...

averagejoel posted...

YOUHAVENOHOPE posted...

LethalAffinity posted...

Men aren't seen as property.

neither are women in Islam

the answer I've always heard is that supposedly corruption comes from the woman's form, so to minimize the corruption and temptation they should cover themselves for modesty

did it ever occur to you that it gets really fucking hot in the middle east, and the covers are used to protect people from the sun

That's not why they do it though. They do it when they reach puberty as a rite of passage into womanhood. They have 'matured sexually' in their eyes so it's about keeping the eyes of other men off their bodies. Sometimes they stop after menopause. A somewhat disturbing trend lately is that even younger girls are being told to cover up; as though they are being viewed as sexual objects at an even earlier age.

out of context, everything about this post is applicable to US culture

While I don't disagree that Christianity has an uncomfortable influence on aspects of US culture, you would REALLY need to take Kolibri's post out of context for it to apply to the US.

It's okay to notice that there are problematic parts of Islam without immediately pointing to Christianity to deflect. Likewise it's fine to point out issues with Christianity without pointing to Islam to show it could be worse. It's not one or the other.
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they get boners when they see a woman's shoulder. that would be very distracting when trying to study Islam.

oh wait that wouldn't happen because women in those countries aren't allowed to be educated. I don't know then.

funny thing

apparently traditional islam is like totally cool with boy child diddling
since they are not yet men nor are they females technically it would be okay to lay with them
according to some interpretations at least

i'm told this is usually only a thing among the most extreme conservatives, like the Wahhabi
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