Current Events > California is now pardoning convicted criminals to protect them from deportation

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What the fuck is going on in CA?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/31/politics/trump-jerry-brown-pardons/index.html

On Friday, the Democratic governor granted 56 pardons and 14 commutations.

Five of those pardons went to immigrants facing possible deportation, according to The Sacramento Bee: Sokha Chhan, Daniel Maher, Phann Pheach, Francisco Acevedo Alaniz and Sergio Mena.
According to the governor's office, Chhan served almost a year in jail and three years of probation for domestic abuse. Maher served five years in prison and three years on parole for kidnapping, robbery and possession and use of a firearm. Alaniz served time for vehicle theft; Pheach and Mena, for possession of a controlled substance for sale.

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april fools!
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s0nicfan posted...

What the fuck is going on in CA?

nothing

this is business as usual
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Others seem somewhat tame, but kidnapping?!
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what the fuck california
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Did you see the reports that a shitload of illegals are pretty much marching across the border and into the states? It's like an army out there
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Bump
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Democrats are so desperate to crank Drumpf they're pardoning kidnappers and domestic abusers.
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So he pardoned 56 people total, only 5 in question to the topic...but where does it say those 5 were ONLY pardoned to save them from deportation? I'm sure there are more facing deportation....why only select those 5 if that was his only reason for doing this? And I'm legitimately asking because it seems TCs only source for that information is Trump...
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How do illegals afford to live in California?

gamer167 posted...

How do illegals afford to live in California?

Well they don't pay income tax for starters
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gamer167 posted...

How do illegals afford to live in California?

The government forces other people to pay their bills.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2017/08/03/la-made-1-3b-in-illegal-immigrant-welfare-payouts-in-just-2-years.html

"LA made $1.3B in illegal immigrant welfare payouts in just 2 years"
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gamer167 posted...

How do illegals afford to live in California?

They live in households that tend to get packed full, like a can of sardines. Poor people here live in one bedroom apartments that have 5 different people splitting rent.
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The Dems are going way too extreme lately, they are gonna lose power if they keep this shit up. I'm a Dem too

Praise the Lord for he has risen
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TheVipaGTS posted...

So he pardoned 56 people total, only 5 in question to the topic...but where does it say those 5 were ONLY pardoned to save them from deportation? I'm sure there are more facing deportation....why only select those 5 if that was his only reason for doing this? And I'm legitimately asking because it seems TCs only source for that information is Trump...

The Sacremento Bee is Trump?
Also, it's no secret that California loves illegals (see sanctuary city/shielding illegals and preventing ICE from doing their job, etc.)
So can you explain why those folks deserve pardons despite the severity of their crimes? Lmao.

Because they meet the requirements necessary to receive a pardon?
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gamer167 posted...

How do illegals afford to live in California?

Taxpayers foot the bill.
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A_Good_Boy posted...

Because they meet the requirements necessary to receive a pardon?

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

For those championing the #metro and other women''s rights sthick, news of a domestic spouse abuser getting a 'out of jail' card is lol worthy.

That's lovely.

"We could be releasing hardened criminals, but fuck you Trump!"

HiddenRoar posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Because they meet the requirements necessary to receive a pardon?

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

For those championing the #metro and other women''s rights sthick, news of a domestic spouse abuser getting a 'out of jail' card is lol worthy.

Why shouldn't they?
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It's really so they can free cells up for misgendering bigots.

A_Good_Boy posted...

HiddenRoar posted...

A_Good_Boy posted...

Because they meet the requirements necessary to receive a pardon?

Just because you can, doesn't mean you should.

For those championing the #metro and other women''s rights sthick, news of a domestic spouse abuser getting a 'out of jail' card is lol worthy.

Why shouldn't they?

Because pardoning people guilty of domestic assault, kidnapping, drug crime, gun crime, is... stupid?
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FairyLeviathan posted...

It's really so they can free cells up for misgendering bigots.

People that receive a pardon have already been out of jail for at least a decade.
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Cali, youre going to go blue anyway. All the illegals arent going to make you extra blue. This is overkill, figuratively and literally.
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Trump has literally turned California lawmakers psychotic.

Cali being ass backwards as usual.
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Jesus

RoboLaserGandhi posted...

Trump has literally turned California lawmakers psychotic.

Jerry Brown has always been an extremist. Insane that he was re-elected again after so long. Maybe because people forgot about all of his shit.
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So 10% were immigrants.

That's outrageous!
10% is practically almost ALL
http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/2013/09/drool.gif
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God damn I live here and I'm ashamed
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"Those granted pardons all completed their sentences years ago and the majority were convicted of drug-related or other nonviolent crimes," a statement from Brown's office said.

Literally fake news
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UrCa1988 posted...

"Those granted pardons all completed their sentences years ago and the majority were convicted of drug-related or other nonviolent crimes," a statement from Brown's office said.

Literally fake news

Uhh...

According to the governor's office, Chhan served almost a year in jail and three years of probation for domestic abuse. Maher served five years in prison and three years on parole for kidnapping, robbery and possession and use of a firearm. Alaniz served time for vehicle theft; Pheach and Mena, for possession of a controlled substance for sale.

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So they served their sentences? Maybe they're reformed?
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s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

"Those granted pardons all completed their sentences years ago and the majority were convicted of drug-related or other nonviolent crimes," a statement from Brown's office said.

Literally fake news

Uhh...

According to the governor's office, Chhan served almost a year in jail and three years of probation for domestic abuse. Maher served five years in prison and three years on parole for kidnapping, robbery and possession and use of a firearm. Alaniz served time for vehicle theft; Pheach and Mena, for possession of a controlled substance for sale.

I absolutely fucking LOVE how you edited out the fact that Chhan's sentence was back in 2002, Maher was 1995, and Alaniz was back in 1997. They've since turned their lives around and have made significant contributions to their communities. Little late to be outraged, don't you think? Also, isn't April supposed to be Second Chance month per Trump?

https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/30/politics/trump-second-chance-month-crime/index.html

The proclamation states that during the month of April, the United States will emphasize the need "to provide opportunities for people with criminal records to earn an honest second chance."

But they're illegal so fuck em, right?
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Now you people mind pardons? You loved them with Arpaio LOL

UrCa1988 posted...

I absolutely fucking LOVE how you edited out the fact that Chhan's sentence was back in 2002, Maher was 1995, and Alaniz was back in 1997. They've since turned their lives around and have made significant contributions to their communities. Little late to be outraged, don't you think? Also, isn't April supposed to be Second Chance month per Trump?

You blatantly ignored the part actually quoted, went into the article, found a part that you thought made his decision look better, came back, and called the whole thing fake news using a Brown quote which was objectively incorrect ("nonviolent crimes") given the part that was ACTUALLY quoted.

I'll give YOU a second chance, since that whole sequence of events was the dumbest thing I've read all day.
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s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

"Those granted pardons all completed their sentences years ago and the majority were convicted of drug-related or other nonviolent crimes," a statement from Brown's office said.

Literally fake news

Uhh...

According to the governor's office, Chhan served almost a year in jail and three years of probation for domestic abuse. Maher served five years in prison and three years on parole for kidnapping, robbery and possession and use of a firearm. Alaniz served time for vehicle theft; Pheach and Mena, for possession of a controlled substance for sale.

They already severed their sentences, so it's not like he just let them off.
If most were not immigrants, why do you think this is about not deporting them?
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LordRazziel posted...

If most were not immigrants, why do you think this is about not deporting them?

CNN article title: "Trump lashes out after California Gov. Jerry Brown pardons 5 immigrants under threat of deportation"
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s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

I absolutely fucking LOVE how you edited out the fact that Chhan's sentence was back in 2002, Maher was 1995, and Alaniz was back in 1997. They've since turned their lives around and have made significant contributions to their communities. Little late to be outraged, don't you think? Also, isn't April supposed to be Second Chance month per Trump?

You blatantly ignored the part actually quoted, went into the article, found a part that you thought made his decision look better, came back, and called the whole thing fake news using a Brown quote which was objectively incorrect ("nonviolent crimes") given the part that was ACTUALLY quoted.

I'll give YOU a second chance, since that whole sequence of events was the dumbest thing I've read all day.

You're virtue signaling the pardoning of criminals whose sentences were served decades ago by deliberately omitting the fact that they were served decades ago. These people have proven for YEARS now that they are no longer a danger to others. If the best you have is nitpicking that they said "the majority were nonviolent," maybe you should just bow out, liar. I can only imagine you seething at the fact that they now have a greater chance at citizenship.
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UrCa1988 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

I absolutely fucking LOVE how you edited out the fact that Chhan's sentence was back in 2002, Maher was 1995, and Alaniz was back in 1997. They've since turned their lives around and have made significant contributions to their communities. Little late to be outraged, don't you think? Also, isn't April supposed to be Second Chance month per Trump?

You blatantly ignored the part actually quoted, went into the article, found a part that you thought made his decision look better, came back, and called the whole thing fake news using a Brown quote which was objectively incorrect ("nonviolent crimes") given the part that was ACTUALLY quoted.

I'll give YOU a second chance, since that whole sequence of events was the dumbest thing I've read all day.

You're virtue signaling the pardoning of criminals whose sentences were served decades ago by deliberately omitting the fact that they were served decades ago. These people have proven for YEARS now that they are no longer a danger to others. If the best you have is nitpicking that they said "the majority were nonviolent," maybe you should just bow out, liar. I can only imagine you seething at the fact that they now have a greater chance at citizenship.

"These deportable crimes shouldn't lead to deportation because they're old" said no reasonable person ever.
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s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

I absolutely fucking LOVE how you edited out the fact that Chhan's sentence was back in 2002, Maher was 1995, and Alaniz was back in 1997. They've since turned their lives around and have made significant contributions to their communities. Little late to be outraged, don't you think? Also, isn't April supposed to be Second Chance month per Trump?

You blatantly ignored the part actually quoted, went into the article, found a part that you thought made his decision look better, came back, and called the whole thing fake news using a Brown quote which was objectively incorrect ("nonviolent crimes") given the part that was ACTUALLY quoted.

I'll give YOU a second chance, since that whole sequence of events was the dumbest thing I've read all day.

You're virtue signaling the pardoning of criminals whose sentences were served decades ago by deliberately omitting the fact that they were served decades ago. These people have proven for YEARS now that they are no longer a danger to others. If the best you have is nitpicking that they said "the majority were nonviolent," maybe you should just bow out, liar. I can only imagine you seething at the fact that they now have a greater chance at citizenship.

"These deportable crimes shouldn't lead to deportation because they're old" said no reasonable person ever.

Affording those who have been held accountable for their crimes an opportunity to become contributing members of society is a critical element of criminal justice that can reduce our crime rates and prison populations, decrease burdens to the American taxpayer, and make America safer.

~Donald Trump
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s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

I absolutely fucking LOVE how you edited out the fact that Chhan's sentence was back in 2002, Maher was 1995, and Alaniz was back in 1997. They've since turned their lives around and have made significant contributions to their communities. Little late to be outraged, don't you think? Also, isn't April supposed to be Second Chance month per Trump?

You blatantly ignored the part actually quoted, went into the article, found a part that you thought made his decision look better, came back, and called the whole thing fake news using a Brown quote which was objectively incorrect ("nonviolent crimes") given the part that was ACTUALLY quoted.

I'll give YOU a second chance, since that whole sequence of events was the dumbest thing I've read all day.

You're virtue signaling the pardoning of criminals whose sentences were served decades ago by deliberately omitting the fact that they were served decades ago. These people have proven for YEARS now that they are no longer a danger to others. If the best you have is nitpicking that they said "the majority were nonviolent," maybe you should just bow out, liar. I can only imagine you seething at the fact that they now have a greater chance at citizenship.

"These deportable crimes shouldn't lead to deportation because they're old" said no reasonable person ever.

What's your views on the statute of limitations then? It operates on this same "no reasonable person" standard...
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UrCa1988 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

I absolutely fucking LOVE how you edited out the fact that Chhan's sentence was back in 2002, Maher was 1995, and Alaniz was back in 1997. They've since turned their lives around and have made significant contributions to their communities. Little late to be outraged, don't you think? Also, isn't April supposed to be Second Chance month per Trump?

You blatantly ignored the part actually quoted, went into the article, found a part that you thought made his decision look better, came back, and called the whole thing fake news using a Brown quote which was objectively incorrect ("nonviolent crimes") given the part that was ACTUALLY quoted.

I'll give YOU a second chance, since that whole sequence of events was the dumbest thing I've read all day.

You're virtue signaling the pardoning of criminals whose sentences were served decades ago by deliberately omitting the fact that they were served decades ago. These people have proven for YEARS now that they are no longer a danger to others. If the best you have is nitpicking that they said "the majority were nonviolent," maybe you should just bow out, liar. I can only imagine you seething at the fact that they now have a greater chance at citizenship.

"These deportable crimes shouldn't lead to deportation because they're old" said no reasonable person ever.

Affording those who have been held accountable for their crimes an opportunity to become contributing members of society is a critical element of criminal justice that can reduce our crime rates and prison populations, decrease burdens to the American taxpayer, and make America safer.

~Donald Trump

Suddenly you agree with Trump on things. Convenient.
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s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

I absolutely fucking LOVE how you edited out the fact that Chhan's sentence was back in 2002, Maher was 1995, and Alaniz was back in 1997. They've since turned their lives around and have made significant contributions to their communities. Little late to be outraged, don't you think? Also, isn't April supposed to be Second Chance month per Trump?

You blatantly ignored the part actually quoted, went into the article, found a part that you thought made his decision look better, came back, and called the whole thing fake news using a Brown quote which was objectively incorrect ("nonviolent crimes") given the part that was ACTUALLY quoted.

I'll give YOU a second chance, since that whole sequence of events was the dumbest thing I've read all day.

You're virtue signaling the pardoning of criminals whose sentences were served decades ago by deliberately omitting the fact that they were served decades ago. These people have proven for YEARS now that they are no longer a danger to others. If the best you have is nitpicking that they said "the majority were nonviolent," maybe you should just bow out, liar. I can only imagine you seething at the fact that they now have a greater chance at citizenship.

"These deportable crimes shouldn't lead to deportation because they're old" said no reasonable person ever.

Affording those who have been held accountable for their crimes an opportunity to become contributing members of society is a critical element of criminal justice that can reduce our crime rates and prison populations, decrease burdens to the American taxpayer, and make America safer.

~Donald Trump

Suddenly you agree with Trump on things. Convenient.

Broken clocks are right twice a day, who knew.
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Cosmic_Diabetic posted...

s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

s0nicfan posted...

UrCa1988 posted...

I absolutely fucking LOVE how you edited out the fact that Chhan's sentence was back in 2002, Maher was 1995, and Alaniz was back in 1997. They've since turned their lives around and have made significant contributions to their communities. Little late to be outraged, don't you think? Also, isn't April supposed to be Second Chance month per Trump?

You blatantly ignored the part actually quoted, went into the article, found a part that you thought made his decision look better, came back, and called the whole thing fake news using a Brown quote which was objectively incorrect ("nonviolent crimes") given the part that was ACTUALLY quoted.

I'll give YOU a second chance, since that whole sequence of events was the dumbest thing I've read all day.

You're virtue signaling the pardoning of criminals whose sentences were served decades ago by deliberately omitting the fact that they were served decades ago. These people have proven for YEARS now that they are no longer a danger to others. If the best you have is nitpicking that they said "the majority were nonviolent," maybe you should just bow out, liar. I can only imagine you seething at the fact that they now have a greater chance at citizenship.

"These deportable crimes shouldn't lead to deportation because they're old" said no reasonable person ever.

What's your views on the statute of limitations then? It operates on this same "no reasonable person" standard...

They're not American citizens. They're not entitled to the same protections. You commit kidnapping, domestic abuse, and grand theft auto, and you lose your right to stay in the country. Sorry.
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No one gives a shit what you think.
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Webmaster4531 posted...

No one gives a shit what you think.

Webmaster4531 posted...

Ad Hominem.

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Shit in one hand and hope they get deported in the other.

See which one fills up first.
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