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ledbowman 03/30/18 12:41:16 PM #101:	You don't think a string of 6 bombs carries an inherent threat? --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:898766424] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote>You don't think a string of 6 bombs carries an inherent threat?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 03/30/18 2:32:17 PM #102:	ledbowman posted... You don't think a string of 6 bombs carries an inherent threat? It does, but that isnt the point of contention. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:898771936] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>You don't think a string of 6 bombs carries an inherent threat?</quote> It does, but that isnt the point of contention.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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EbonTitanium 03/30/18 3:08:54 PM #104:	TomNook20 posted... Shuto-uke posted... "MAGA cap wearing WHITE WOMAN kicks 11 year old ILLEGAL muslim BLACK kid that speaks SPANISH in the FACE for no reason, sends him to hospital, but is she HOT?". Fixed that for you. The sad thing is that this could actually be a topic on CE. --- I don't know which is worse: fanboys or elitist. <cite>EbonTitanium posted [p:898773855] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>TomNook20 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote> "MAGA cap wearing WHITE WOMAN kicks 11 year old ILLEGAL muslim BLACK kid that speaks SPANISH in the FACE for no reason, sends him to hospital, but is she HOT?".</quote> Fixed that for you.</quote> The sad thing is that this could actually be a topic on CE.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dreamvoid 03/30/18 3:35:17 PM #105:	@Rika_Furude posted... dreamvoid posted... well then. i figured more people would care since there were huge arguments on whether he was a terrorist or not. no there wern't you shouldn't speak on subjects you are ignorant of. there were quite a few topics and arguments that occurred after it happened over whether he is a terrorist or not as you can see from this very topic. --- http://imgur.com/2Qfzt9X.jpg https://i.imgur.com/qlXpj2E.jpg https://i.imgur.com/rPe48jC.jpg http://i.imgur.com/5xltd3r.jpg <cite>dreamvoid posted [p:898775171] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>@Rika_Furude posted...</cite> <quote><cite>dreamvoid posted...</cite> <quote>well then. i figured more people would care since there were huge arguments on whether he was a terrorist or not.</quote> no there wern't</quote> you shouldn't speak on subjects you are ignorant of. there were quite a few topics and arguments that occurred after it happened over whether he is a terrorist or not as you can see from this very topic.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 03/30/18 4:56:25 PM #106:	shockthemonkey posted... Shuto-uke posted... shockthemonkey posted... Shuto-uke posted... The Admiral posted... Shuto-uke posted... Nomadic View posted... Words have meanings. Terrorism is (1) the attack (2) on innocents (3) for a political end. You need all three elements. If it makes the police chief feel better to label him a terrorist, go for it. But its an inaccurate use of the word. You're saying he had no political end? lol. What was his political goal? He had a thing against liberals and minorities, so he chose to bomb directly a bunch of minorities, and then when that became too hard to keep pulling off he had to settle for trigger bombs to keep the liberal city full of fear. He had a blog full of ultra-conservative and ultra-religious rants, and we are not even allowed to see his confessional tape for some reason, even though news stations and PDs are usually real happy to share other attacker's manifestos. Source? You won't find it all in a single article. You can look at who the first 3 attacks got. Then you can look at the other attacks. Then his blog was in another news story. Ok then, sources? Are you really doubting this happened? Did you tune into the news at all?! <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:898779489] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>The Admiral posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote>Words have meanings. Terrorism is (1) the attack (2) on innocents (3) for a political end. You need all three elements. If it makes the police chief feel better to label him a terrorist, go for it. But its an inaccurate use of the word.</quote> You're saying he had no political end? lol.</quote> What was his political goal?</quote> He had a thing against liberals and minorities, so he chose to bomb directly a bunch of minorities, and then when that became too hard to keep pulling off he had to settle for trigger bombs to keep the liberal city full of fear. He had a blog full of ultra-conservative and ultra-religious rants, and we are not even allowed to see his confessional tape for some reason, even though news stations and PDs are usually real happy to share other attacker's manifestos.</quote> Source?</quote> You won't find it all in a single article. You can look at who the first 3 attacks got. Then you can look at the other attacks. Then his blog was in another news story.</quote> Ok then, sources?</quote> Are you really doubting this happened? Did you tune into the news at all?!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Zeeak4444 03/30/18 5:09:28 PM #107:	He's right to ask for a source. And before you call Shock a conservative or something stupid let me just save you some face and tell you not to make yourself look that stupid. Do you have some sources backing these up? I'd like to see them. --- Typical gameFAQers are "Complainers that always complain about those who complain about real legitimate complaints."-Joker_X <cite>Zeeak4444 posted [p:898780124] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote>He's right to ask for a source. And before you call Shock a conservative or something stupid let me just save you some face and tell you not to make yourself look that stupid. Do you have some sources backing these up? I'd like to see them.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
_RETS_ 03/30/18 5:25:45 PM #108:	I consider the guy a terrorist based on broader definitions. I do think Chief Manley, having already stated there was no evidence from the confession tape of terrorist motives, caved to public outcry about the guy not being labeled a terrorist. But officially designating someone as a terrorist can have different consequences in the way of how the crimes are prosecuted, how people connected to the killer get involved, etc. That's why an official definition with a narrow scope should be used when officially assigning someone a category. From that perspective, really the only thing distinguishing this dude from a regular serial killer (or serial attacker since he had fewer than 3 victims) was his choice of weapon, which isn't a variable that's considered in the designation. The political beliefs of someone on their own don't matter as much as whether or not those beliefs motivated the crime. Everyone who has ever killed someone has political/ideological ideas one way or another, but their crimes can have nothing to do with them. So while I think personally, based on broad definitions, that he was a terrorist and I'm glad he is dead and I can walk around my city now without worrying about it, I also acknowledge that unless the APD/FBI found political/ideological motivation, the chief is calling him one for optics sake. Which is fine, it just sets a bad precedent. Certain segments, right and left, are too eager to cry terrorism in order to advance narratives though, and that is a problem. <cite>_RETS_ posted [p:898780860] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote>I consider the guy a terrorist based on broader definitions. I do think Chief Manley, having already stated there was no evidence from the confession tape of terrorist motives, caved to public outcry about the guy not being labeled a terrorist. But officially designating someone as a terrorist can have different consequences in the way of how the crimes are prosecuted, how people connected to the killer get involved, etc. That's why an official definition with a narrow scope should be used when officially assigning someone a category. From that perspective, really the only thing distinguishing this dude from a regular serial killer (or serial attacker since he had fewer than 3 victims) was his choice of weapon, which isn't a variable that's considered in the designation. The political beliefs of someone on their own don't matter as much as whether or not those beliefs motivated the crime. Everyone who has ever killed someone has political/ideological ideas one way or another, but their crimes can have nothing to do with them. So while I think personally, based on broad definitions, that he was a terrorist and I'm glad he is dead and I can walk around my city now without worrying about it, I also acknowledge that unless the APD/FBI found political/ideological motivation, the chief is calling him one for optics sake. Which is fine, it just sets a bad precedent. Certain segments, right and left, are too eager to cry terrorism in order to advance narratives though, and that is a problem.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 03/30/18 5:27:13 PM #109:	Nomadic View posted... ledbowman posted... You don't think a string of 6 bombs carries an inherent threat? It does, but that isnt the point of contention. Broken_Zeus posted... Who was he trying to intimidate, then? He made no threats, he only had violence. And if you're cherrypicking that half of the definition then every violent criminal is a terrorist. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:898780919] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>You don't think a string of 6 bombs carries an inherent threat?</quote> It does, but that isnt the point of contention.</quote> <cite>Broken_Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Who was he trying to intimidate, then? He made no threats, he only had violence. And if you're cherrypicking that half of the definition then every violent criminal is a terrorist.</quote></quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 03/30/18 5:41:00 PM #110:	ledbowman posted... Nomadic View posted... ledbowman posted... You don't think a string of 6 bombs carries an inherent threat? It does, but that isnt the point of contention. Broken_Zeus posted... Who was he trying to intimidate, then? He made no threats, he only had violence. And if you're cherrypicking that half of the definition then every violent criminal is a terrorist. Are you just arguing for the sake of it? You realize that argument is in favor of not labeling him a terrorist? Sure, you got me. Hes not a terrorist. --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:898781635] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>You don't think a string of 6 bombs carries an inherent threat?</quote> It does, but that isnt the point of contention.</quote> <cite>Broken_Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Who was he trying to intimidate, then? He made no threats, he only had violence. And if you're cherrypicking that half of the definition then every violent criminal is a terrorist.</quote></quote> Are you just arguing for the sake of it? You realize that argument is in favor of not labeling him a terrorist? Sure, you got me. Hes not a terrorist.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
ledbowman 03/30/18 5:43:32 PM #111:	Nomadic View posted... ledbowman posted... Nomadic View posted... ledbowman posted... You don't think a string of 6 bombs carries an inherent threat? It does, but that isnt the point of contention. Broken_Zeus posted... Who was he trying to intimidate, then? He made no threats, he only had violence. And if you're cherrypicking that half of the definition then every violent criminal is a terrorist. Are you just arguing for the sake of it? You realize that argument is in favor of not labeling him a terrorist? Sure, you got me. Hes not a terrorist. You said whether he made threats is not a point of contention and I was just showing you it is. --- I wish we all waved <cite>ledbowman posted [p:898781761] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>ledbowman posted...</cite> <quote>You don't think a string of 6 bombs carries an inherent threat?</quote> It does, but that isnt the point of contention.</quote> <cite>Broken_Zeus posted...</cite> <quote>Who was he trying to intimidate, then? He made no threats, he only had violence. And if you're cherrypicking that half of the definition then every violent criminal is a terrorist.</quote></quote> Are you just arguing for the sake of it? You realize that argument is in favor of not labeling him a terrorist? Sure, you got me. Hes not a terrorist.</quote> You said whether he made threats is not a point of contention and I was just showing you it is.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 03/31/18 9:14:08 AM #113:	shockthemonkey posted... So then you have a source? I know the game you're playing. 1) I will spend time and energy fetching news stories where they mention that the first 3 (or 4?) victims were black or hispanic. 2) I will spend time and energy getting a news story that mentions that all attacks happened in Austin 3) I will spend time and energy posting a story where they mention that the shooter had a very, very conservative blog complaining about stuff such as gay mariage 4) I will show a study that mentions that Austin is basically a blue city in a sea of red After all happened you will either ignore the message or troll all of my effort by coming up with a stupid remark trying to discredit it all such as "your links show that the victims of the targeted bombs were black, it doesn't say it was BECAUSE they were black LOLOLOLO I TROLL U take that librulz p.s. close the border" <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:898812849] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> So then you have a source?</quote> I know the game you're playing. 1) I will spend time and energy fetching news stories where they mention that the first 3 (or 4?) victims were black or hispanic. 2) I will spend time and energy getting a news story that mentions that all attacks happened in Austin 3) I will spend time and energy posting a story where they mention that the shooter had a very, very conservative blog complaining about stuff such as gay mariage 4) I will show a study that mentions that Austin is basically a blue city in a sea of red After all happened you will either ignore the message or troll all of my effort by coming up with a stupid remark trying to discredit it all such as "your links show that the victims of the targeted bombs were black, it doesn't say it was BECAUSE they were black LOLOLOLO I TROLL U take that librulz p.s. close the border"</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Shuto-uke 03/31/18 2:44:40 PM #115:	shockthemonkey posted... Shuto-uke posted... shockthemonkey posted... So then you have a source? I know the game you're playing. 1) I will spend time and energy fetching news stories where they mention that the first 3 (or 4?) victims were black or hispanic. 2) I will spend time and energy getting a news story that mentions that all attacks happened in Austin 3) I will spend time and energy posting a story where they mention that the shooter had a very, very conservative blog complaining about stuff such as gay mariage 4) I will show a study that mentions that Austin is basically a blue city in a sea of red After all happened you will either ignore the message or troll all of my effort by coming up with a stupid remark trying to discredit it all such as "your links show that the victims of the targeted bombs were black, it doesn't say it was BECAUSE they were black LOLOLOLO I TROLL U take that librulz p.s. close the border" Yeah thats me, Captain Close The Borders But honestly Im just looking for sources on al the stuff youve been saying, I dont have a dog in this fight Alright: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/austin-package-bomb-victims-connected-family-ties-skin-color-n856621 https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/us/austin-package-bombing-victims/index.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-austin-bombings-suspect-20180321-story.html => mentions his blog http://therightscoop.com/the-austin-bomber-apparently-hated-homosexuality-and-abortion-and-called-himself-a-conservative/ <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:898825874] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> So then you have a source?</quote> I know the game you're playing. 1) I will spend time and energy fetching news stories where they mention that the first 3 (or 4?) victims were black or hispanic. 2) I will spend time and energy getting a news story that mentions that all attacks happened in Austin 3) I will spend time and energy posting a story where they mention that the shooter had a very, very conservative blog complaining about stuff such as gay mariage 4) I will show a study that mentions that Austin is basically a blue city in a sea of red After all happened you will either ignore the message or troll all of my effort by coming up with a stupid remark trying to discredit it all such as "your links show that the victims of the targeted bombs were black, it doesn't say it was BECAUSE they were black LOLOLOLO I TROLL U take that librulz p.s. close the border"</quote> Yeah thats me, Captain Close The Borders But honestly Im just looking for sources on al the stuff youve been saying, I dont have a dog in this fight</quote> Alright: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/austin-package-bomb-victims-connected-family-ties-skin-color-n856621 https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/us/austin-package-bombing-victims/index.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-austin-bombings-suspect-20180321-story.html => mentions his blog http://therightscoop.com/the-austin-bomber-apparently-hated-homosexuality-and-abortion-and-called-himself-a-conservative/</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
dave_is_slick 03/31/18 2:59:45 PM #116:	Shuto-uke posted... shockthemonkey posted... Shuto-uke posted... shockthemonkey posted... So then you have a source? I know the game you're playing. 1) I will spend time and energy fetching news stories where they mention that the first 3 (or 4?) victims were black or hispanic. 2) I will spend time and energy getting a news story that mentions that all attacks happened in Austin 3) I will spend time and energy posting a story where they mention that the shooter had a very, very conservative blog complaining about stuff such as gay mariage 4) I will show a study that mentions that Austin is basically a blue city in a sea of red After all happened you will either ignore the message or troll all of my effort by coming up with a stupid remark trying to discredit it all such as "your links show that the victims of the targeted bombs were black, it doesn't say it was BECAUSE they were black LOLOLOLO I TROLL U take that librulz p.s. close the border" Yeah thats me, Captain Close The Borders But honestly Im just looking for sources on al the stuff youve been saying, I dont have a dog in this fight Alright: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/austin-package-bomb-victims-connected-family-ties-skin-color-n856621 https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/us/austin-package-bombing-victims/index.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-austin-bombings-suspect-20180321-story.html => mentions his blog http://therightscoop.com/the-austin-bomber-apparently-hated-homosexuality-and-abortion-and-called-himself-a-conservative/ Why did it take you so long? --- The most relaxing version of Aquatic Ambiance I've ever heard: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl61y1XM7sM <cite>dave_is_slick posted [p:898826561] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> So then you have a source?</quote> I know the game you're playing. 1) I will spend time and energy fetching news stories where they mention that the first 3 (or 4?) victims were black or hispanic. 2) I will spend time and energy getting a news story that mentions that all attacks happened in Austin 3) I will spend time and energy posting a story where they mention that the shooter had a very, very conservative blog complaining about stuff such as gay mariage 4) I will show a study that mentions that Austin is basically a blue city in a sea of red After all happened you will either ignore the message or troll all of my effort by coming up with a stupid remark trying to discredit it all such as "your links show that the victims of the targeted bombs were black, it doesn't say it was BECAUSE they were black LOLOLOLO I TROLL U take that librulz p.s. close the border"</quote> Yeah thats me, Captain Close The Borders But honestly Im just looking for sources on al the stuff youve been saying, I dont have a dog in this fight</quote> Alright: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/austin-package-bomb-victims-connected-family-ties-skin-color-n856621 https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/us/austin-package-bombing-victims/index.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-austin-bombings-suspect-20180321-story.html => mentions his blog http://therightscoop.com/the-austin-bomber-apparently-hated-homosexuality-and-abortion-and-called-himself-a-conservative/</quote> Why did it take you so long?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 03/31/18 3:04:46 PM #117:	I find it weird that people can't understand why this falls under the label of terrorism. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:898826771] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote>I find it weird that people can't understand why this falls under the label of terrorism.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Perascamin 03/31/18 3:31:19 PM #119:	FrisbeeDude posted... The same people who wanted BLM labeled a terrorist organization are suddenly only interested in the strictest definition of the word That's because BLM and Antifa have uses threats of violence to further their political agenda --- I've grown. <cite>Perascamin posted [p:898827920] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>The same people who wanted BLM labeled a terrorist organization are suddenly only interested in the strictest definition of the word </quote> That's because BLM and Antifa have uses threats of violence to further their political agenda</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 03/31/18 3:32:55 PM #120:	Perascamin posted... FrisbeeDude posted... The same people who wanted BLM labeled a terrorist organization are suddenly only interested in the strictest definition of the word That's because BLM and Antifa have uses threats of violence to further their political agenda Threats of violence versus actual use of violence. And the threats are treated more strictly. Uhhhhhhhhh --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:898827983] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>Perascamin posted...</cite> <quote><cite>FrisbeeDude posted...</cite> <quote>The same people who wanted BLM labeled a terrorist organization are suddenly only interested in the strictest definition of the word </quote> That's because BLM and Antifa have uses threats of violence to further their political agenda</quote> Threats of violence versus actual use of violence. And the threats are treated more strictly. Uhhhhhhhhh</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Nomadic View 03/31/18 3:45:04 PM #121:	Kineth posted... I find it weird that people can't understand why this falls under the label of terrorism. It doesnt meet the elements of 18 USC section 2331(5) which states: (5) the term domestic terrorism means activities that (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion --- {}\\{}(o){}\\//{}//=\\{})){}(< \\//{}{{-{}//\\{} {}xxxxxxxx{};;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;;> <cite>Nomadic View posted [p:898828541] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>I find it weird that people can't understand why this falls under the label of terrorism.</quote> It doesnt meet the elements of 18 USC section 2331(5) which states: (5) the term domestic terrorism means activities that (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Shuto-uke 03/31/18 4:58:55 PM #122:	dave_is_slick posted... Shuto-uke posted... shockthemonkey posted... Shuto-uke posted... shockthemonkey posted... So then you have a source? I know the game you're playing. 1) I will spend time and energy fetching news stories where they mention that the first 3 (or 4?) victims were black or hispanic. 2) I will spend time and energy getting a news story that mentions that all attacks happened in Austin 3) I will spend time and energy posting a story where they mention that the shooter had a very, very conservative blog complaining about stuff such as gay mariage 4) I will show a study that mentions that Austin is basically a blue city in a sea of red After all happened you will either ignore the message or troll all of my effort by coming up with a stupid remark trying to discredit it all such as "your links show that the victims of the targeted bombs were black, it doesn't say it was BECAUSE they were black LOLOLOLO I TROLL U take that librulz p.s. close the border" Yeah thats me, Captain Close The Borders But honestly Im just looking for sources on al the stuff youve been saying, I dont have a dog in this fight Alright: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/austin-package-bomb-victims-connected-family-ties-skin-color-n856621 https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/us/austin-package-bombing-victims/index.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-austin-bombings-suspect-20180321-story.html => mentions his blog http://therightscoop.com/the-austin-bomber-apparently-hated-homosexuality-and-abortion-and-called-himself-a-conservative/ Why did it take you so long? because I thought that shockthemonkey was doing the concern troll number like other users have been doing it recently. Turns out he wasn't so I went and digged the links <cite>Shuto-uke posted [p:898831795] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>dave_is_slick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Shuto-uke posted...</cite> <quote><cite>shockthemonkey posted...</cite> <quote> So then you have a source?</quote> I know the game you're playing. 1) I will spend time and energy fetching news stories where they mention that the first 3 (or 4?) victims were black or hispanic. 2) I will spend time and energy getting a news story that mentions that all attacks happened in Austin 3) I will spend time and energy posting a story where they mention that the shooter had a very, very conservative blog complaining about stuff such as gay mariage 4) I will show a study that mentions that Austin is basically a blue city in a sea of red After all happened you will either ignore the message or troll all of my effort by coming up with a stupid remark trying to discredit it all such as "your links show that the victims of the targeted bombs were black, it doesn't say it was BECAUSE they were black LOLOLOLO I TROLL U take that librulz p.s. close the border"</quote> Yeah thats me, Captain Close The Borders But honestly Im just looking for sources on al the stuff youve been saying, I dont have a dog in this fight</quote> Alright: https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/austin-package-bomb-victims-connected-family-ties-skin-color-n856621 https://www.cnn.com/2018/03/13/us/austin-package-bombing-victims/index.html http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-austin-bombings-suspect-20180321-story.html => mentions his blog http://therightscoop.com/the-austin-bomber-apparently-hated-homosexuality-and-abortion-and-called-himself-a-conservative/</quote> Why did it take you so long?</quote> because I thought that shockthemonkey was doing the concern troll number like other users have been doing it recently. Turns out he wasn't so I went and digged the links</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Kineth 04/01/18 1:54:16 AM #123:	Nomadic View posted... Kineth posted... I find it weird that people can't understand why this falls under the label of terrorism. It doesnt meet the elements of 18 USC section 2331(5) which states: (5) the term domestic terrorism means activities that (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion I'm not gonna change your mind, but I disagree with you on this. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. <cite>Kineth posted [p:898856569] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote><cite>Nomadic View posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Kineth posted...</cite> <quote>I find it weird that people can't understand why this falls under the label of terrorism.</quote> It doesnt meet the elements of 18 USC section 2331(5) which states: (5) the term domestic terrorism means activities that (A) involve acts dangerous to human life that are a violation of the criminal laws of the United States or of any State; (B) appear to be intended (i) to intimidate or coerce a civilian population; (ii) to influence the policy of a government by intimidation or coercion</quote> I'm not gonna change your mind, but I disagree with you on this.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
gguirao 04/01/18 3:42:48 AM #124:	Damn right, he was! --- Donald J. Trump--proof against government intelligence. <cite>gguirao posted [p:898859659] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote>Damn right, he was!</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
scar the 1 04/01/18 4:12:04 AM #125:	It's all fine and dandy to discuss whether this really is terrorism or not, but doesn't anyone think it's a little problematic to employ the metrics of US govt agencies as a definition? People have bent over backwards to cone up with definitions that don't incriminate US actions in other countries. It's not exactly a useful metric unless you're looking to get anti-terrorism efforts tied to the handling of the case. --- Everything has an end, except for the sausage. It has two. <cite>scar the 1 posted [p:898860330] in Austin pol... [t:76465914]...</cite> <quote>It's all fine and dandy to discuss whether this really is terrorism or not, but doesn't anyone think it's a little problematic to employ the metrics of US govt agencies as a definition? People have bent over backwards to cone up with definitions that don't incriminate US actions in other countries. It's not exactly a useful metric unless you're looking to get anti-terrorism efforts tied to the handling of the case.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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