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Damn_Underscore 03/29/18 5:25:16 PM #1:	At least not from a moral standpoint. If you think abortion is morally wrong, you should also think the death penalty is morally wrong (regardless of any justifications you may have). And if you think the death penalty is morally wrong, you should also think abortion is morally wrong (regardless of any justifications you may have). --- Shenmue II = best game of all time Shenmue = 2nd best game of all time <cite>Damn_Underscore posted [p:898723644] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote>At least not from a moral standpoint. If you think abortion is morally wrong, you should also think the death penalty is morally wrong (regardless of any justifications you may have). And if you think the death penalty is morally wrong, you should also think abortion is morally wrong (regardless of any justifications you may have).</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Irony 03/29/18 5:27:01 PM #2:	Nah --- I am Mogar, God of Irony and The Devourer of Topics. http://i.imgtc.com/tHc3mIo.png http://i.imgtc.com/PYxw8Lm.png <cite>Irony posted [p:898723749] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote>Nah</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
prince_leo 03/29/18 5:28:07 PM #3:	not really --- https://imgur.com/uHUvpSH http://error1355.com/ce/prince_leo.html <cite>prince_leo posted [p:898723812] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote>not really</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 03/29/18 5:32:55 PM #5:	How do you justify comparing unborn children to murderers? --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:898724095] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote>How do you justify comparing unborn children to murderers?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Ultima Dragon 03/29/18 5:36:29 PM #6:	Aborted fetus is "innocent" and never had a chance to live. Death sentence prisoner (assuming they have been proven guilty without a shadow of a doubt) had their fair shot at life and threw it away. Executing a prisoner is helpful to society because it protects people that they might otherwise victimize. Even if they are serving a life sentence, the possibility still exists that they could escape. Aborting a fetus isn't really helpful to anyone except maybe the mother who isn't interested in raising the kid. Not really stances that I hold, just some arguments that could be made. Funnily enough, a lot of death row inmates could have benefited from being aborted since they almost always have messed up childhoods. Never grew up with loving parents or in a good, stable home environment. That does things to a person's development. --- "It's Canada, their idea of rioting is a half-muttered swear word." - deathbeforelife <cite>Ultima Dragon posted [p:898724284] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote>Aborted fetus is "innocent" and never had a chance to live. Death sentence prisoner (assuming they have been proven guilty without a shadow of a doubt) had their fair shot at life and threw it away. Executing a prisoner is helpful to society because it protects people that they might otherwise victimize. Even if they are serving a life sentence, the possibility still exists that they could escape. Aborting a fetus isn't really helpful to anyone except maybe the mother who isn't interested in raising the kid. Not really stances that I hold, just some arguments that could be made. Funnily enough, a lot of death row inmates could have benefited from being aborted since they almost always have messed up childhoods. Never grew up with loving parents or in a good, stable home environment. That does things to a person's development.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 03/29/18 5:41:24 PM #7:	Ultima Dragon posted... Aborted fetus is "innocent" and never had a chance to live. Actually if we're going by Christian standards. An unborn baby would still have original sin and thus is not infact innocent. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:898724610] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Ultima Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>Aborted fetus is "innocent" and never had a chance to live.</quote> Actually if we're going by Christian standards. An unborn baby would still have original sin and thus is not infact innocent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Sariana21 03/29/18 5:41:33 PM #8:	Many people do believe that both are morally wrong, including people who are pro-choice. The difference is that in one case the government is committing an immoral act. In the other case the government is declining to prevent an individual from committing an immoral act. Being pro-choice isn't about claiming that abortion isn't immoral. Some people believe that; others don't. It is about believing that it is not the place of the government to legislate morality. Many "pro-choicers" would never to choose to have an abortion themselves; they just want to retain the right to make that choice. --- ___ Sari, Mom to DS (07/04) and DD (01/08) <cite>Sariana21 posted [p:898724618] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote>Many people do believe that both are morally wrong, including people who are pro-choice. The difference is that in one case the government is committing an immoral act. In the other case the government is declining to prevent an individual from committing an immoral act. Being pro-choice isn't about claiming that abortion isn't immoral. Some people believe that; others don't. It is about believing that it is not the place of the government to legislate morality. Many "pro-choicers" would never to choose to have an abortion themselves; they just want to retain the right to make that choice.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
SageHarpuia 03/29/18 6:36:06 PM #9:	Tmaster148 posted... Ultima Dragon posted... Aborted fetus is "innocent" and never had a chance to live. Actually if we're going by Christian standards. An unborn baby would still have original sin and thus is not infact innocent. That's not how that works. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" <cite>SageHarpuia posted [p:898727547] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ultima Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>Aborted fetus is "innocent" and never had a chance to live.</quote> Actually if we're going by Christian standards. An unborn baby would still have original sin and thus is not infact innocent.</quote> That's not how that works.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
r4X0r 03/29/18 6:37:51 PM #10:	The left loves to execute babies because they don't have to look them in the eye. --- I faced it all and I stood tall- And did it my way. <cite>r4X0r posted [p:898727653] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote>The left loves to execute babies because they don't have to look them in the eye.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Steve Nick 03/29/18 6:37:53 PM #11:	Tmaster148 posted... Ultima Dragon posted... Aborted fetus is "innocent" and never had a chance to live. Actually if we're going by Christian standards. An unborn baby would still have original sin and thus is not infact innocent. So what you're saying is you think we should kill all humans on the planet? --- This is my signature. <cite>Steve Nick posted [p:898727654] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ultima Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>Aborted fetus is "innocent" and never had a chance to live.</quote> Actually if we're going by Christian standards. An unborn baby would still have original sin and thus is not infact innocent.</quote> So what you're saying is you think we should kill all humans on the planet?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
Tmaster148 03/29/18 6:38:54 PM #12:	Steve Nick posted... Tmaster148 posted... Ultima Dragon posted... Aborted fetus is "innocent" and never had a chance to live. Actually if we're going by Christian standards. An unborn baby would still have original sin and thus is not infact innocent. So what you're saying is you think we should kill all humans on the planet? No. Just that a fetus wouldn't be considered innocent if your only justification for the Death Penalty is that the target is innocent. --- http://i.imgur.com/BBcZDLJ.png <cite>Tmaster148 posted [p:898727716] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote><cite>Steve Nick posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Tmaster148 posted...</cite> <quote><cite>Ultima Dragon posted...</cite> <quote>Aborted fetus is "innocent" and never had a chance to live.</quote> Actually if we're going by Christian standards. An unborn baby would still have original sin and thus is not infact innocent.</quote> So what you're saying is you think we should kill all humans on the planet?</quote> No. Just that a fetus wouldn't be considered innocent if your only justification for the Death Penalty is that the target is innocent.</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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thanosibe 03/29/18 7:31:42 PM #14:	SageHarpuia posted... How do you justify comparing unborn children to murderers? How do you not compare killing someone to killing someone? How is one morally justified and the other not? --- I think I need a drink. Almost everybody does only they don't know it. -- Charles Bukowski <cite>thanosibe posted [p:898730408] in It's not c... [t:76465899]...</cite> <quote><cite>SageHarpuia posted...</cite> <quote>How do you justify comparing unborn children to murderers?</quote>How do you not compare killing someone to killing someone? How is one morally justified and the other not?</quote> ... Copied to Clipboard!
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