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GunmaN1905
03/28/18 8:25:07 AM
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I'm done.
Was actually thinking about buying a PS4, even found a guy in my area selling it for 300$, but just now I gave up completely.

I actually saw it on PS4 board and couldn't believe my eyes. Half of the people there were actually defending the decision.
Not all games have to be in 60fps.

It's fucking 2018 and the bigges exclusive of the year has 30fps framerate? WTF.

People like that are the reaso gaming industry is so bad compared to a decade ago.

(btw, I have ps1-3 with huge libraries, but just gave up on ps4 due to lack of exclusives that interest me and shitty hardware)
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RE_expert44
03/28/18 8:26:22 AM
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Virus731
03/28/18 8:28:37 AM
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Honestly I find it weird that console players are happy with 30FPS after TLoU remaster came out where you had the option to switch. It's so fucking jarring it's not even funny.
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snesmaster40
03/28/18 8:30:22 AM
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GunmaN1905
03/28/18 8:38:11 AM
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Virus731 posted...
Honestly I find it weird that console players are happy with 30FPS after TLoU remaster came out where you had the option to switch. It's so fucking jarring it's not even funny.


The console gaming is heading in the completely opposite direction of where it should be.

They're focusing on upscaled 4k instead of framerate.
Various blur efects everywhere.
Loading times are horrible.

Call me whatever you like, but I can't play with motion blur, makes my eyes hurt. And obligatory 30fps.

Not much of a loss anyway, basically the only game on PS4 that was a must buy for me.
Would've liked to play Gran Turismo, too. Oh well.
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CircleOfManias
03/28/18 8:47:04 AM
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The best part is the people defending 30FPS are the exact same people that say "gameplay is more important than graphics". Targeting 30FPS rather than 60 to squeeze in some extra particle effects or whatever is the definition of prioritizing graphics over gameplay.
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Irony
03/28/18 8:47:51 AM
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The most sigless user topic today
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Romulox28
03/28/18 8:58:04 AM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
It's fucking 2018 and the bigges exclusive of the year has 30fps framerate? WTF.

what do u expect when you're developing a game that has to look modern but run on hardware from 2013?
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MoistenedYouth
03/28/18 9:13:47 AM
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Irony posted...
The most sigless user topic today

careful

he's a gunmaN
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GunmaN1905
03/28/18 9:19:56 AM
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Someone points out that the biggest ps4 exclusive in 2018 is in 30fps.

>sigless user logic

Peasantry has no limits.
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Awesome
03/28/18 9:44:59 AM
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Problem is the ps4 pro cant handle the current graphics at 60 FPS.
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Nightmare_Luna
03/28/18 9:45:56 AM
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blame ps4 pro being underpowered trash
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Link HT
03/28/18 9:47:00 AM
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Because casuals (aka people who matter to businesses) want graphics over everything else.

I just wish more games gave us the option to switch to 60fps at the cost of some visuals.
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DifferentialEquation
03/28/18 9:47:29 AM
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Virus731 posted...
Honestly I find it weird that console players are happy with 30FPS after TLoU remaster came out where you had the option to switch. It's so fucking jarring it's not even funny.


TLoU is one of the games where 30 fps looks better. But for racing, fighting and hack and slash games 60 fps should be the standard.
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GunmaN1905
03/28/18 9:56:34 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
But for racing, fighting and hack and slash games 60 fps should be the standard.


This is the problem.
I can't imagine playing a hack and slash game like god of war in 30fps.
Might aswell just watch the cutscenes.
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TheMarthKoopa
03/28/18 9:59:52 AM
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DifferentialEquation posted...
But for racing, fighting and hack and slash games 60 fps should be the standard.

60FPS should be the minimum for everything. Unlocked up to 240hz should be the standard
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Nightmare_Luna
03/28/18 10:00:54 AM
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TheMarthKoopa posted...
DifferentialEquation posted...
But for racing, fighting and hack and slash games 60 fps should be the standard.

60FPS should be the minimum for everything. Unlocked up to 240hz should be the standard

it should but yet your precious consoles that you shill so much can't handle that

hmmm
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The Admiral
03/28/18 10:02:13 AM
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I still cant believe people are making excuses for action games being at 30 FPS. Those are basically unplayable to me.

And yeah, motion blur effects are horrendous. No clue who enjoys those.
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TheMarthKoopa
03/28/18 10:02:33 AM
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Nightmare_Luna posted...
precious consoles that you shill so much

what
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halomonkey1_3_5
03/28/18 10:04:35 AM
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The Admiral posted...
And yeah, motion blur effects are horrendous. No clue who enjoys those.

motion blur
depth of field
chromatic aberration

all garbage effects which for some reason have become the standard
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Esrac
03/28/18 10:23:57 AM
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I'll take a stable 30 FPS over a frame rate that jumps up and down, but 60 FPS is obviously superior. I'll take a hit to graphics quality if it means a higher frame rate.
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spanky1
03/28/18 10:33:03 AM
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This topic may seem crazy at first glance but really it's a good view to have imo. I've been a console gamer for all my life and it's just shitty that people are still okay with 30 fps. 60 should be the standard by now.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/28/18 10:37:19 AM
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The issue to me is that the creators prioritized great visuals over gameplay in their supposed action hack and slash game, which is just yet another massive red flags with this game.
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GunmaN1905
03/28/18 10:38:32 AM
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Esrac posted...
I'll take a stable 30 FPS over a frame rate that jumps up and down, but 60 FPS is obviously superior. I'll take a hit to graphics quality if it means a higher frame rate.


That's another problem. The graphics are also worse for me. I can't stand playing with motion blur and all the other filters just so I can get some additional effects.

Had an argument on another forum, so I'll also post my conclusion here and I think that most people will agree, it's basically the reason why console players get labelled as peasants:

How do you think PC population would react if Valve announced that you need a subscription to play online through Steam? Even if it was 1 a month? It's would be an unprecedented outrage.
That's the difference between PC players and console players.
Console players will accept anything and that's basically a free pass for developers to slack off and serve you whatever they like, convincing you that it's fine in the meantime.
Difference isn't in the game library, hardware, playstyle, technical limitations or anything else. It's in the attitude. And if the attitude was different, consoles would be much better.
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clearaflagrantj
03/28/18 10:38:33 AM
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The human eye can't see more than 24FPS so I don't even understand what all the bitching itt is about
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Yomi
03/28/18 10:39:13 AM
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What was even the point of making the PS4 Pro then, just to have fake 4K?
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Irony
03/28/18 10:39:17 AM
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How did you crawl out of your suspension
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GunmaN1905
03/28/18 10:41:02 AM
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Yomi posted...
What was even the point of making the PS4 Pro then, just to have fake 4K?


It's not real 4k. Why do you think you need a 2k$ PC to even have a chance of getting stable framerate in 4k. It's just upscaled.

Irony posted...
How did you crawl out of your suspension


It's been like 2 years now. I was in purgatory for a couple months. But truth always prevails. Just like in Adam Sandler movies.
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Yomi
03/28/18 10:47:32 AM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
It's not real 4k. Why do you think you need a 2k$ PC to even have a chance of getting stable framerate in 4k. It's just upscaled.
Well... Duh? That was why I called it fake 4k
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Irony
03/28/18 10:49:10 AM
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Not you ffs
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Resolution
03/28/18 10:54:08 AM
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It depends on the game. Anyone who was so heavily bothered by the new Kirby game being at 30FPS is an idiot. But in God of War I could see it being disruptive
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spanky1
03/28/18 10:56:42 AM
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You know what, this actually extra bad because the camera is so up close behind your shoulder. Generally, the closer in the camera is, the higher frame rate is needed, with 1st person shooters needing the highest. This new God of War is so zoomed in that I actually can see people getting sick.
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Virus731
03/28/18 10:57:26 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
The human eye can't see more than 24FPS so I don't even understand what all the bitching itt is about


Lol I'm glad no one bit.

DifferentialEquation posted...
TLoU is one of the games where 30 fps looks better. But for racing, fighting and hack and slash games 60 fps should be the standard.


I may be wrong, but that might be because you played it at 30FPS on the PS3 first, thus used to it. Unless you're getting unsteady frames (100 dipping to 60), more FPS is always better.
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clearaflagrantj
03/28/18 10:58:22 AM
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Virus731 posted...
Lol I'm glad no one bit.

I wanted to say 12FPS but I figured that would have been too obvious
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DifferentialEquation
03/28/18 10:58:53 AM
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Yomi posted...
What was even the point of making the PS4 Pro then, just to have fake 4K?


Supposedly the extra power gives a much smoother experience for PSVR.

If I were buyng a PS4 for the first time, I'd probably lean towards the Pro but I'm certainly not going to upgrade to it.
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Virus731
03/28/18 10:59:45 AM
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clearaflagrantj posted...
Virus731 posted...
Lol I'm glad no one bit.

I wanted to say 12FPS but I figured that would have been too obvious


I thought the standard line was no more than 30 FPS, and 24 is just what they shoot movies at. Nice try anyway.
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GunmaN1905
03/28/18 11:00:51 AM
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Also, this generation of console shits on console gaming is cheaper argument.

They advertise them as 4k and I don't know many people who had 4k TV prior to buying a new console.
And there's not many channels broadcasting in 4k to warrant the purchase itself.

So you add up the more expensive games, 50$ per year for online play, 4k TV purchase and you end up with console gaming being more expensive.

Checkmate, peasants.
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Resolution
03/28/18 11:02:57 AM
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Okay buddy continue investing $3000 into your "high-end" PC
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Smashingpmkns
03/28/18 11:03:41 AM
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The game will most likely be mediocre regardless of frame rate. Sony has been a huge disappointment this gen.
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Virus731
03/28/18 11:03:45 AM
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Resolution posted...
Okay buddy continue investing $3000 into your "high-end" PC


Lol, no one bite on this either.
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DirkDiggles
03/28/18 11:03:53 AM
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The entitled gamers of today, people.

You didn't hear anybody bitching about 60fps vs 30fps PS2 or before.
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Resolution
03/28/18 11:04:10 AM
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You responded so you already bit

PC gaming fanboys are so emotionally vulnerable
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GunmaN1905
03/28/18 11:05:01 AM
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Literally rookie user.

I didn't invest 3k$ in my PC.

Just another comparison:

When Witcher 3 was released, arguably the best game of the decade so far, I had a CPU/GPU/RAM from 2010. Could run it at around 45 FPS with high settings. Tuning it down to medium meant nearly stable 60fps.
That was on 5/6 year old hardware at that point. PS4 was basically brand new hardware then, regular PS4. And it struggled to maintain 30fps on settings that compare to low setting on PC. That was a native PC game, ported to consoles.
MGSV was the best port in a while and I could get stable 60fps on high settings, just half a year later.
PS4 struggled again and the game was native to it, built in fox engine.

Literally first gen i7 released in 2009, combined with AMD GPU outperforming a 2014 hardware PC.
By a lot.

At least I don't have to use alts to post here.
Who're you afraid of?
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daftpunk_mk5
03/28/18 11:05:05 AM
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144Hz master race
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Virus731
03/28/18 11:05:07 AM
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Resolution posted...
You responded so you already bit


you can't just win like that -_- it's not fair

edit: tc bit, lmfao
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GunmaN1905
03/28/18 11:06:59 AM
#46:


Virus731 posted...
Resolution posted...
You responded so you already bit


you can't just win like that -_- it's not fair

edit: tc bit, lmfao


I literally posted that 20sec after him. If I could type that fast, I wouldn't be posting here right now.

daftpunk_mk5 posted...
144Hz master race


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Virus731
03/28/18 11:07:24 AM
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GunmaN1905 posted...
I literally posted that 20sec after him. If I could type that fast, I wouldn't be posting here right now.


he was talking about me...
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GunmaN1905
03/28/18 11:09:00 AM
#48:


Virus731 posted...
GunmaN1905 posted...
I literally posted that 20sec after him. If I could type that fast, I wouldn't be posting here right now.


he was talking about me...


You said I bit.
But I posted right after him.
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eston
03/28/18 11:12:57 AM
#49:


I'm glad I'm not that picky tbqh

For me it kinda falls into that category of people who won't drink tap water, or people who have to use a bidet. Nothing wrong with liking what you like, but I prefer to be a bit more flexible. A game being 30fps is not a deal breaker for me, because many many fun games have run at 30fps.
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GunmaN1905
03/28/18 11:15:09 AM
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It's true that many games in the past ran at 30fps, but that was because of technical limitations.

On the other hand, this gen is going in the completely wrong direction.

Towards the cinematic experience instead of actual gaming.
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