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Patchwork
03/28/18 11:33:15 AM
#101:


MattSFfrd posted...
Patchwork posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
i don't think she's lying, but who gives a shit? it was a consensual one time thing years ago. bill clinton literally raped women.


Bill Clinton isn't the president right now. I'm really not sure how that's relevant.


really


Really. I'm not advocating for a Clinton presidency, and the allegations that swirl around Bill are heinous. He seems very much to be a more personable, more charming scumbag. But still a scumbag.

You deflecting to Clinton automatically is ridiculous. It doesn't negate the allegations swirling around Trump (aside from Stormy Daniels); pitting his character against an equally shitty human doesn't make him less shitty.
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Bio1590
03/28/18 11:43:03 AM
#102:


Caution999 posted...
Pretty sure Juanita has a book out where she claims Clinton raped her.

But he's a Democrat. That means hes innocent.

Lmao how did I miss this post.

Caution: "I've turned over a new leaf unlike others here"
Also Caution: "lol he's a democrat of course that means he's innocent on all rape charges"
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MC_BatCommander
03/28/18 11:43:59 AM
#103:


Bio1590 posted...
Caution999 posted...
Pretty sure Juanita has a book out where she claims Clinton raped her.

But he's a Democrat. That means hes innocent.

Lmao how did I miss this post.

Caution: "I've turned over a new leaf unlike others here"
Also Caution: "lol he's a democrat of course that means he's innocent on all rape charges"


he can't resist the urge to shitpost, it's in his blood
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_RETS_
03/28/18 11:47:30 AM
#104:


marc55 posted...
Juanita Broaddrick accuses Clinton of raping her in 1978


marc55 posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Juanita Broaddrick accuses Clinton of raping her in 1978; Kathleen Willey accuses Clinton of groping her without consent in 1993; and Paula Jones accuses Clinton of exposing himself to her in 1991 and sexually harassing her

literally a two second google search

Neither of those is rape....derp.


holy shit

but ...it isnt rape
is a crime but not rape


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HiddenLurker
03/28/18 11:59:14 AM
#105:


Patchwork posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
i don't think she's lying, but who gives a shit? it was a consensual one time thing years ago. bill clinton literally raped women.


Bill Clinton isn't the president right now. I'm really not sure how that's relevant.

So he gets a pass now because he got his 8 years? Never mind the fact that if the election had gone the other way he would have made a return to the WH as "First Gentleman"?
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Punctus_Pilot
03/28/18 12:14:55 PM
#106:


Why do the people that like to say "Clinton raped women" not care about the women Trump raped, like his ex wife?
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stone
03/28/18 12:18:04 PM
#107:


Punctus_Pilot posted...
Why do the people that like to say "Clinton raped women" not care about the women Trump raped, like his ex wife?

Because they're two-faced hypocrites, that's why.
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MKScorpion
03/28/18 12:18:22 PM
#108:


No, not really. Trump has created a reputation for himself. He has also shown an inability to admit when he makes a mistake or is wrong and just denies everything and calls things he doesn't like fake and lies. I have no reason to believe him when he denies it and absolutely no reason to not believe Ms Daniels when we have seen the papers for the hush money.
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MC_BatCommander
03/28/18 12:18:57 PM
#109:


Punctus_Pilot posted...
Why do the people that like to say "Clinton raped women" not care about the women Trump raped, like his ex wife?


It's a lot easier to deflect to Clinton than it is to defend Trump, so they do that.
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iClockwork
03/28/18 12:20:41 PM
#110:


MKScorpion posted...
He has also shown an inability to admit when he makes a mistake or is wrong and just denies everything and calls things he doesn't like fake and lies.

Yeah that does sound familiar doesn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rS0O7UKH4Y" data-time="
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MC_BatCommander
03/28/18 12:21:34 PM
#111:


iClockwork posted...
MKScorpion posted...
He has also shown an inability to admit when he makes a mistake or is wrong and just denies everything and calls things he doesn't like fake and lies.

Yeah that does sound familiar doesn't it?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rS0O7UKH4Y" data-time="


lmfao, point proven
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iClockwork
03/28/18 12:24:20 PM
#112:


MC_BatCommander posted...
lmfao, point proven

What does Trump need defended against? He had consensual sex with a women years ago. Two legal adults signed a NDA.

Are any of these against the law?
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MC_BatCommander
03/28/18 12:26:48 PM
#113:


iClockwork posted...
What does Trump need defended against?


Punctus_Pilot posted...
not care about the women Trump raped, like his ex wife?


And a direct quote from the POTUS himself:

"I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it, you can do anything... grab them by the pussy."

Literally on tape bragging about assaulting women and getting away with it. If he were a liberal you wouldn't be defending him.

I honestly don't give a fuck about him banging a porn star, really don't. But when his supporters deflect everything to "BUT CLINTON!" it bothers me.
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HiddenLurker
03/28/18 12:27:28 PM
#114:


Punctus_Pilot posted...
Why do the people that like to say "Clinton raped women" not care about the women Trump raped, like his ex wife?

Why do the people that like to say "Trump raped women" not care about the women that Clinton raped, like the ones people in this topic are "slut shaming"?
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TheRealDill2000
03/28/18 12:27:42 PM
#115:


Of course she is lying. She is a pawn of the Never-Trumpers who are fishing for ways to tarnish our President's image. Trump has been adamant about his innocence in these accusations.
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iClockwork
03/28/18 12:33:51 PM
#116:


MC_BatCommander posted...

And a direct quote from the POTUS himself:

"I don't even wait. And when you're a star, they let you do it, you can do anything... grab them by the pussy."

Literally on tape bragging about assaulting women and getting away with it. If he were a liberal you wouldn't be defending him.

What does this have to do with Stormy Daniels? Also,

MC_BatCommander posted...
they let you do it

It isn't assault then is it?
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Heineken14
03/28/18 12:35:15 PM
#117:


Of course she isn't lying. Donnie is absolute gutter trash, of course he would fuck a porn star that looks like his daughter shortly after his 3rd wife just gave birth to their kid.
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stone
03/28/18 12:35:56 PM
#118:


HiddenLurker posted...
Punctus_Pilot posted...
Why do the people that like to say "Clinton raped women" not care about the women Trump raped, like his ex wife?

Why do the people that like to say "Trump raped women" not care about the women that Clinton raped, like the ones people in this topic are "slut shaming"?

We do care, except the topic at hand is about Trump, not Clinton, who held the position two decades ago. So stop deflecting to Clinton as your defense to justify what Trump did.
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MC_BatCommander
03/28/18 12:36:12 PM
#119:


iClockwork posted...
What does this have to do with Stormy Daniels? Also,


What does Clinton have to do with Stormy Daniels?

iClockwork posted...
It isn't assault then is it?


heard it here folks, it's not assault if they don't fight back
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DragonGirlYuki
03/28/18 12:36:18 PM
#120:


I don't think she is lying.
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iClockwork
03/28/18 12:40:04 PM
#121:


MC_BatCommander posted...
What does Clinton have to do with Stormy Daniels?

People are claiming Trump is lying, he's not So i'm pointing out the hypocrisy in the argument and how liberals cannot stay consistent in their morals.

MC_BatCommander posted...
heard it here folks, it's not assault if they don't fight back

He didn't say they didn't fight back. He said,

MC_BatCommander posted...
they let you do it

which is implied consent.

If I let you take my dog for a walk would it be reasonable for me to accuse you of kidnapping? No.
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PG_Era
03/28/18 12:40:59 PM
#122:


"But.. but.. but this person did this"

Like it never fails.
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stone
03/28/18 12:41:04 PM
#123:


Wow.. Such mental gymnastics. You should go to the next Olympics.
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stone
03/28/18 12:42:31 PM
#124:


PG_Era posted...
"But.. but.. but this person did this"

Like it never fails.

"you've been accused of kicking puppies. How do you plead?"
"Non guilty, Your Honor, on the grounds of the guy who lived here 20 years ago also kicked puppies"
*gasps!*
"Case dismissed! You're free to go!"
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MC_BatCommander
03/28/18 12:43:00 PM
#125:


iClockwork posted...
which is implied consent.

If I let you take my dog for a walk would it be reasonable for me to accuse you of kidnapping? No.


So let me get your position straight.

If a girl doesn't want you touching her, but doesn't resist when you do, you do not consider that assault? Just confirm for me here.

That dog analogy makes zero sense. If you let me take your dog for a walk it's usually because I asked you, or you asked me to do it. I didn't roll up and grab your dog by the pussy.
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Heineken14
03/28/18 12:44:36 PM
#126:


iClockwork posted...
which is implied consent.

If I let you take my dog for a walk would it be reasonable for me to accuse you of kidnapping? No.


Lol, except that's not the case at all with the Donnie scenario. It's more like you being some rich asshole and you take his dog for a walk and then say "when you're rich, they let you do things like that!" It may or may not be ok to said person who's dog you just took, but you also have multiple allegations of "dognapping" against you that all have roughly the same m.o.
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iClockwork
03/28/18 12:46:13 PM
#127:


MC_BatCommander posted...
If a girl doesn't want you touching her, but doesn't resist when you do, you do not consider that assault? Just confirm for me here.

My position is they were grown women capable of not allowing Trump to touch them if they wished. Them allowing him to implies consent.
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stone
03/28/18 12:48:38 PM
#128:


Or fear of retribution.
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HiddenLurker
03/28/18 12:55:00 PM
#129:


stone posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
Punctus_Pilot posted...
Why do the people that like to say "Clinton raped women" not care about the women Trump raped, like his ex wife?

Why do the people that like to say "Trump raped women" not care about the women that Clinton raped, like the ones people in this topic are "slut shaming"?

We do care, except the topic at hand is about Trump, not Clinton, who held the position two decades ago. So stop deflecting to Clinton as your defense to justify what Trump did.

Well you people certainly didn't care when Clinton was president so seeing how you all have become the morality police is pretty funny. In fact it is pretty funny to see how desperate you all cry "deflection" when every topic about Hillary 100% always gets deflected to Trump.

Oh and by the way I never cared about either of their sex lives.
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MC_BatCommander
03/28/18 12:55:41 PM
#130:


HiddenLurker posted...
Well you people certainly didn't care when Clinton was president


I'd say most if not everyone on CE were all children when Clinton was president dude, I was literally 4 years old when he was elected
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Anteaterking
03/28/18 12:56:51 PM
#131:


No one has been able to come up with a justification for the things that we know ($130k payment directly from Cohen, etc.) that would make Stormy Daniels's claims of an affair not seem credible.
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stone
03/28/18 12:57:21 PM
#132:


HiddenLurker posted...
stone posted...
HiddenLurker posted...
Punctus_Pilot posted...
Why do the people that like to say "Clinton raped women" not care about the women Trump raped, like his ex wife?

Why do the people that like to say "Trump raped women" not care about the women that Clinton raped, like the ones people in this topic are "slut shaming"?

We do care, except the topic at hand is about Trump, not Clinton, who held the position two decades ago. So stop deflecting to Clinton as your defense to justify what Trump did.

Well you people certainly didn't care when Clinton was president so seeing how you all have become the morality police is pretty funny. In fact it is pretty funny to see how desperate you all cry "deflection" when every topic about Hillary 100% always gets deflected to Trump.

Oh and by the way I never cared about either of their sex lives.

I wasn't even an adult and didn't care about politics back then. So yeah.
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stone
03/28/18 12:58:07 PM
#133:


Anteaterking posted...
No one has been able to come up with a justification for the things that we know ($130k payment directly from Cohen, etc.) that would make Stormy Daniels's claims of an affair not seem credible.

They rather focus on Clinton instead of supplying justification for Trump's actions, for some reason
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Bio1590
03/28/18 1:21:39 PM
#134:


HiddenLurker posted...
Well you people certainly didn't care when Clinton was president

lmao bruh

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/poll/6841-how-old-are-you

Based on that poll over 70% of GameFAQs was 16 or younger (or wasn't even born) when Clinton left office, meaning they were 8 or younger (and even more weren't even born) when he was elected.
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Kineth
03/28/18 1:46:57 PM
#135:


Why the fuck can't you people talk about your misgivings about tangential shit in another topic and stick to the subject. Holy fuck. It's like some of you are incapable of putting together coherent arguments that aren't based on partisan chicanery.
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southcoast09
03/28/18 1:47:58 PM
#136:


Umm yeah?
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MattSFfrd
03/28/18 2:41:32 PM
#137:


stone posted...
Anteaterking posted...
No one has been able to come up with a justification for the things that we know ($130k payment directly from Cohen, etc.) that would make Stormy Daniels's claims of an affair not seem credible.

They rather focus on Clinton instead of supplying justification for Trump's actions, for some reason


pretty much everybody knows they fucked, and pretty much nobody gives a shit. we're talking about Clinton because what he did was much, much, much worse, yet it's ignored by the lefties because he has a D next to his name.
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MattSFfrd
03/28/18 2:42:39 PM
#138:


_RETS_ posted...
marc55 posted...
Juanita Broaddrick accuses Clinton of raping her in 1978


marc55 posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations

Juanita Broaddrick accuses Clinton of raping her in 1978; Kathleen Willey accuses Clinton of groping her without consent in 1993; and Paula Jones accuses Clinton of exposing himself to her in 1991 and sexually harassing her

literally a two second google search

Neither of those is rape....derp.


holy shit

but ...it isnt rape
is a crime but not rape


Are you guys missing something or am I?


they're so blinded by Clinton love that they totally gloss over that first sentence lol
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Anteaterking
03/28/18 2:56:54 PM
#139:


MattSFfrd posted...
pretty much everybody knows they f***ed, and pretty much nobody gives a s***. we're talking about Clinton because what he did was much, much, much worse, yet it's ignored by the lefties because he has a D next to his name.


Why are you saying "ignored by lefties"? It's not as if the country didn't actually go through a long period of time where Bill Clinton was being accused and ultimately impeached based on his affairs. Just because you weren't politically cognizant when these things were playing out doesn't mean that they didn't.
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Bio1590
03/28/18 2:58:04 PM
#140:


We're also in a topic that literally had nothing to do with Clinton until he tried to deflect to it.
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Heineken14
03/28/18 3:05:16 PM
#141:


MattSFfrd posted...
we're talking about Clinton because


You Donnie worshipers can't do anything BUT deflect. Literally the only reason Clinton is brought up in a topic about Donnie.
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HippopotamusRex
03/28/18 3:05:21 PM
#142:


stone posted...
Or fear of retribution.


Then they need to grow the hell up. The pathetic thing is this infantilization of grown ass women as children will never, ever get you anywhere with them even though you think you are protecting them.

For the sane world, 'they let you' implies consent.
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Heineken14
03/28/18 3:10:37 PM
#143:


HippopotamusRex posted...
For the sane world, 'they let you' implies consent.


No, it does not.
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HippopotamusRex
03/28/18 3:13:21 PM
#144:


Heineken14 posted...
HippopotamusRex posted...
For the sane world, 'they let you' implies consent.


No, it does not.


The sane world actually gives individual human agency to a grown ass adult. So yes it does. You want society to cater to your collective infantile psychosis of women being infants.

The pathetic thing is that they will respect you less than someone telling them the truth. Someone like Donald Trump. Your line of logic takes away their agency and you disgust them more. If they don't have the power or responsibility to be grown ass adults guess they shouldn't vote either then, right?
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stone
03/28/18 3:19:05 PM
#145:


Heineken14 posted...
HippopotamusRex posted...
For the sane world, 'they let you' implies consent.


No, it does not.

This.
There are many, many reasons why someone would let you do whatever they want to you that aren't consent. Not even going to list them 'cause you probably couldn't understand anyway, or would try to deflect some more.
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Heineken14
03/28/18 3:22:22 PM
#146:


HippopotamusRex posted...
Heineken14 posted...
HippopotamusRex posted...
For the sane world, 'they let you' implies consent.


No, it does not.


The sane world actually gives individual human agency to a grown ass adult. So yes it does. You want society to cater to your collective infantile psychosis of women being infants.

The pathetic thing is that they will respect you less than someone telling them the truth. Someone like Donald Trump. Your line of logic takes away their agency and you disgust them more. If they don't have the power or responsibility to be grown ass adults guess they shouldn't vote either then, right?


Your line of thinking amounts to "they shouldn't have dressed like they wanted it." You're literally taking the word of a serial liar and dirt bag who said "they let you do it" as gospel that these women had no issue with it.

Did some not mind? Possibly. Did some have an issue? Also possible. Either way, that is definitely not "sane" logic.
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HippopotamusRex
03/28/18 3:25:07 PM
#147:


stone posted...
Heineken14 posted...
HippopotamusRex posted...
For the sane world, 'they let you' implies consent.


No, it does not.

This.
There are many, many reasons why someone would let you do whatever they want to you that aren't consent. Not even going to list them 'cause you probably couldn't understand anyway, or would try to deflect some more.


No, there's not. Just by the actual language that the word let allows. Let by definition implies agency. It's non-deterministic. By default if you have the power to let something happen, you have the power. It's the exact opposite of causal language. But glad to see you have nothing left to add. Run along to your liberal arts class now, your indoctrination is coming along quite well. You're actually learning less than someone who would literally do nothing except stare at a wall because your basic English skills are atrophying. I'm sure the debt will be nice too.
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MattSFfrd
03/28/18 3:37:49 PM
#148:


Heineken14 posted...
MattSFfrd posted...
we're talking about Clinton because


You Donnie worshipers can't do anything BUT deflect. Literally the only reason Clinton is brought up in a topic about Donnie.


i'm not even a big Trump fan, I voted for Cruz in the primary and while I voted for Trump in the general election (obviously), I think he's fucked us more times than he's helped us. I brought up Clinton because the hypocrisy of the left is mind-meltingly hilarious.
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Heineken14
03/28/18 3:52:02 PM
#149:


MattSFfrd posted...
I brought up Clinton because


To deflect. You brought up Clinton to deflect. Literally the only reason.
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Bio1590
03/28/18 3:58:41 PM
#150:


GameFAQs: "You can't call someone a nerd, that's flaming"

Also GameFAQs: "It's totally fine that accounts are running around saying that people who 'let' themselves be sexually assaulted are consenting to it"
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