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pinky0926 03/28/18 8:40:47 AM #51: |
Darkman124 posted...
Yes, but anecdotes get across the point better, i.e. that people who choose that line of work generally aren't in a great place to begin with. --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Dat_Cracka_Jax 03/28/18 8:42:29 AM #52: |
XBoner posted...
MattSFfrd posted...i don't think she's lying, but who gives a shit? it was a consensual one time thing years ago. bill clinton literally raped women. You realize that his position of power is what makes it rape. That's what we've learned from the metoo movement --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 03/28/18 8:42:32 AM #53: |
Darkman124 posted...
pinky0926 posted... And there's a fallacy that attributing a fallacy to an argument doesn't make it wrong. But hey, it's not like this contributes to the discussion. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iClockwork 03/28/18 8:44:25 AM #54: |
stone posted...
Still is hush money even if they agreed upon it. That's how hush money usually works "I give you money and you tell no one" "ok" Glad we agree there's no issue. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stone 03/28/18 8:45:34 AM #55: |
iClockwork posted...
stone posted...Still is hush money even if they agreed upon it. That's how hush money usually works "I give you money and you tell no one" "ok" There's an issue, but it's mostly with you. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Darkman124 03/28/18 8:47:02 AM #56: |
gunplagirl posted...
And there's a fallacy that attributing a fallacy to an argument doesn't make it wrong. But hey, it's not like this contributes to the discussion. building your argument on a false comparison means you have no argument. it does not hold up under any form of scrutiny. yes, the thesis you're defending can still be right: but that's not due to any effort of yours. pinky0926 posted...
anecdotes make me tune out because there's no scientific basis for them and they don't relate to the situation being discussed but i'm glad that both of you bristled in response to my comments because that means i'm doing it right. now consider stormy daniels as a person, rather than as a sex worker in context of your isolated experience with a specific subset of sex workers, or in context of a broad assortment of sex workers that includes a type totally orthogonal to her line of work. and see where that takes you both. --- And when the hourglass has run out, eternity asks you about only one thing: whether you have lived in despair or not. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 03/28/18 8:47:40 AM #57: |
pinky0926 posted...
gunplagirl posted... Weed is hardly a terrible drug, but whatever floats your boat. Never said stormy is or was, the broader implications of the sex worker community can be presented without having to frame itself around any particular worker. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 03/28/18 8:49:27 AM #58: |
Darkman, cry more, if you're not contributing then at least try and bait a reaction like iclockwork.
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stone 03/28/18 8:51:17 AM #59: |
gunplagirl posted...
Darkman, cry more, if you're not contributing then at least try and bait a reaction like iclockwork. Oh now you've done it! He'll probably link you to a fallacy for this message. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 03/28/18 8:54:10 AM #60: |
stone posted...
gunplagirl posted...Darkman, cry more, if you're not contributing then at least try and bait a reaction like iclockwork. Acknowledging that other posters exist and are capable of looking up stuff? That's three fallacies AND a paddling. --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stone 03/28/18 8:55:45 AM #61: |
gunplagirl posted...
stone posted...gunplagirl posted...Darkman, cry more, if you're not contributing then at least try and bait a reaction like iclockwork. You had me at paddling. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iClockwork 03/28/18 8:58:44 AM #62: |
stone posted...
There's an issue, but it's mostly with you. The argument falls apart and all that's left is ad hominem. Classic. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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scar the 1 03/28/18 9:02:48 AM #63: |
This topic feels a little weird
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stone 03/28/18 9:03:25 AM #64: |
iClockwork posted...
stone posted...There's an issue, but it's mostly with you. Or I'm just done arguing with someone wearing a blindfold. But sure let's go with yours, if that makes you shut up faster. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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XBoner 03/28/18 9:03:50 AM #65: |
scar the 1 posted...
This topic feels a little weird why does it feel weird? --- "If A.I. was the answer, who was the question?" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 03/28/18 9:04:47 AM #66: |
Whether she's lying or not, she's certainly out for money and fame. She could've chosen any time to come out of the woodwork with this stuff.
She needs money. She's a dried up aging porn star entering her older years and nobody wants to see her on film anymore. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stone 03/28/18 9:05:54 AM #67: |
Caution999 posted...
Whether she's lying or not, she's certainly out for money and fame. She could've chosen any time to come out of the woodwork with this stuff. Probably. It happened so long ago she just picked the best moment to make the most of it. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 03/28/18 9:08:43 AM #68: |
Caution999 posted...
Whether she's lying or not, she's certainly out for money and fame. She could've chosen any time to come out of the woodwork with this stuff. If you're not criticizing her breaking her NDA in one topic then you're criticizing her for taking too long to speak in another. You've gotta make up your mind here breh. --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iClockwork 03/28/18 9:12:03 AM #69: |
stone posted...
Or I'm just done arguing with someone wearing a blindfold. But sure let's go with yours, if that makes you shut up faster. You've failed at every turn to either a) point to any wrong doing b) provide any evidence for any wrong doing What's the issue specifically then? Outrage for it's own sake? ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SavenForever 03/28/18 9:12:53 AM #70: |
Some things she I think she is lying about, such as some mysterious man coming up to her and saying "that's a beautiful baby you got there. It would be a shame if something were to happen to it." like straight out of a movie.
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GuyCarlPeterson 03/28/18 9:13:04 AM #71: |
She signed a statement saying she didn't sleep with him so either way she is a liar.
--- Father's dream; devour the twin. Sisters scream "for our sins." They'll cut their flesh to make amends, and grasp for ghosts that savior sends. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stone 03/28/18 9:13:23 AM #72: |
iClockwork posted...
stone posted...Or I'm just done arguing with someone wearing a blindfold. But sure let's go with yours, if that makes you shut up faster. Same could be said about pretty much everything you said, but hey let's not point that out, shall we? --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Miz_iZ_AwSOme_X 03/28/18 9:13:38 AM #73: |
If Daniels was lying Trump wouldn't had sent his lawyers after her. Especially when he ignored this issue until she said she had photos.
Lol at people here discrediting stormy just because she's a pornstar. Like she doesn't live a normal life outside the business. Because their orange gawd can't do nothing wrong. --- PSN xJokerLastLaughx Currently playing, AC Origins Dragonball FighterZ Dragonball Xenoverse 2 NFS payback The last of us Remastered. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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pinky0926 03/28/18 9:16:50 AM #74: |
Darkman124 posted...
anecdotes make me tune out because there's no scientific basis for them and they don't relate to the situation being discussed Not exactly bristling at your comments, rather I made an offhand comment about what I think about pornstars and it's created a fairly unnecessary debate. I'll settle with "I don't know anything about Stormy Daniels as a person beyond some of her previous life choices nor anything about this situation beyond a few headlines". --- CE's Resident Scotsman. http://i.imgur.com/ILz2ZbV.jpg ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iClockwork 03/28/18 9:17:02 AM #75: |
stone posted...
Same could be said about pretty much everything you said, but hey let's not point that out, shall we? Im not making the claim Trump has done anything wrong. Provide the evidence to support your claim of his wrongdoing. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_OujiDoza_ 03/28/18 9:18:13 AM #76: |
iClockwork posted...
stone posted...Same could be said about pretty much everything you said, but hey let's not point that out, shall we? Infidelity isn't considered wrong now? --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime |Brian-Dawkins|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 03/28/18 9:18:20 AM #77: |
GuyCarlPeterson posted...
She signed a statement saying she didn't sleep with him so either way she is a liar. The NDA would have said she wouldn't talk about anything that happened between the two parties Not that she never had a relationship --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iClockwork 03/28/18 9:22:04 AM #78: |
_OujiDoza_ posted...
Infidelity isn't considered wrong now? You have no insight into Trumps marriage to assume there was infidelity. For all you know Melanie is/was fine with Trump seeing other women. To pretend you know otherwise is pompous. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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gunplagirl 03/28/18 9:25:30 AM #79: |
iClockwork posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...Infidelity isn't considered wrong now? Even if Melanie was okay with it, as a NYC resident, it's actually a crime to have an extramarital affair. Penal Law 255.17 --- Pokemon Moon FC: 1994-2190-5020 IGN: Vanessa ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stone 03/28/18 9:26:03 AM #80: |
iClockwork posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...Infidelity isn't considered wrong now? And to pretend you know that she's fine with it is pulling crap out of you ass, but hey that's all you do so far. "let me counter what you said with something i've been doing myself but let's ignore that" --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_OujiDoza_ 03/28/18 9:26:14 AM #81: |
gunplagirl posted...
iClockwork posted..._OujiDoza_ posted...Infidelity isn't considered wrong now? get em' --- R.I.P. Bilbo-Swaggins: Victim of the CommunistFAQS Regime |Brian-Dawkins|http://i.imgtc.com/5yil6xS.jpg. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Taharqa_ 03/28/18 9:33:50 AM #82: |
There are two people that Trump does not attack in tweets from the shutter in the AM, Stormy Daniel's and Vladimir Putin. That's all I got to say on that, draw your own conclusions
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MattSFfrd 03/28/18 10:06:21 AM #83: |
_OujiDoza_ posted...
MattSFfrd posted...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations holy shit --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Caution999 03/28/18 10:07:37 AM #84: |
Pretty sure Juanita has a book out where she claims Clinton raped her.
But he's a Democrat. That means hes innocent. --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 03/28/18 10:09:31 AM #85: |
Caution999 posted...
Pretty sure Juanita has a book out where she claims Clinton raped her. Gotta make up your mind here too breh. Do you believe allegations or not? --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 03/28/18 10:10:43 AM #86: |
Why would I believe anything a whore said?
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Caution999 03/28/18 10:12:13 AM #87: |
Not until proven guilty in the court of law.
Doesn't mean the person claiming the allegations is right or wrong yet. Up for you to decide. Certainly, we can agree both Clinton and Trump are very wealthy, and have been or are the President of the United States, so you have to imagine they're damn near impossible to touch with this kind of issue. That said, Juanita wasn't a porn star right? --- "Impossible is just a word to let people feel good about themselves when they quit." - Vyse, Skies of Arcadia ... Copied to Clipboard!
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A_Good_Boy 03/28/18 10:13:35 AM #88: |
SageHarpuia posted...
Why would I believe anything a whore said? Why would you think Trump is telling the truth? --- Who is? I am! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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SageHarpuia 03/28/18 10:15:30 AM #89: |
A_Good_Boy posted...
SageHarpuia posted...Why would I believe anything a whore said? Just because I don't trust whores doesn't mean I do trust the accused. --- "You will pay dearly for your futile resistance!" ... Copied to Clipboard!
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GuyCarlPeterson 03/28/18 10:28:35 AM #90: |
gunplagirl posted...
GuyCarlPeterson posted...She signed a statement saying she didn't sleep with him so either way she is a liar. She signed a statement saying she didn't. Not the NDA. She has flip flopped on did she or didn't she multiple times as well publicly. So anyway you slice it she is a liar. --- Father's dream; devour the twin. Sisters scream "for our sins." They'll cut their flesh to make amends, and grasp for ghosts that savior sends. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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spudger 03/28/18 10:29:05 AM #91: |
clearaflagrantj posted...
If Stormy was lying Trump would be tweeting about her nonstop --- -Only dead fish swim with the current http://error1355.com/ce/spudger.html ... Copied to Clipboard!
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stone 03/28/18 10:31:17 AM #92: |
spudger posted...
clearaflagrantj posted...If Stormy was lying Trump would be tweeting about her nonstop Problem with that is he normally tweets nonstop about both true and false things. So it's hard to tell in that case, but yeah, his silence is very fishy. --- PONG WAS REAL? I thought that was just a story parents told kids to scare them ... Copied to Clipboard!
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Kineth 03/28/18 10:39:46 AM #93: |
MattSFfrd posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...MattSFfrd posted...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations To quote you earlier. WHO GIVES A SHIT? Get off this Bill Clinton lynching and stick to the topic. --- If you're not looking for any honest discussion, agreement, meeting halfway or middle ground, don't bother arguing with me. Selfish narcissists need not apply. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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_RETS_ 03/28/18 10:48:26 AM #94: |
She is most likely telling the truth about the relationship/affair in general and embellishing other details for attention and money.
Thing is though, unless Trump did send someone to threaten her or use campaign finance money to pay her off, this doesn't really matter. Everyone knows Trump is a sleazy shit bag. This literally wouldn't change anything. I don't even care about Clinton getting his fuck on, but he was in a position of elected power when he did it. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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iClockwork 03/28/18 10:59:26 AM #95: |
stone posted...
And to pretend you know that she's fine with it is pulling crap out of you ass, but hey that's all you do so far. "let me counter what you said with something i've been doing myself but let's ignore that" No see that's the difference. I don't know the arraignment of his marriage so I pass judgement or make claims against the man for his private affairs when I have no knowledge of them. You do. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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refmon 03/28/18 10:59:55 AM #96: |
MattSFfrd posted...
i don't think she's lying, but who gives a shit? it was a consensual one time thing years ago. bill clinton literally raped women. --- If you read this signature, then that meant that I had control of what you read for 5 SECONDS!! ... Copied to Clipboard!
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marc55 03/28/18 11:02:23 AM #97: |
MattSFfrd posted...
_OujiDoza_ posted...MattSFfrd posted...https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Clinton_sexual_misconduct_allegations but ...it isnt rape is a crime but not rape --- There is no sound, no voice, no cry in all the world that can be heard... until someone listens. ... Copied to Clipboard!
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LightHawKnight 03/28/18 11:05:15 AM #98: |
I just find it funny that Trump's lawyer is so bad at being a lawyer, he had to get his own lawyer.
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Bio1590 03/28/18 11:06:03 AM #99: |
GuyCarlPeterson posted...
gunplagirl posted...GuyCarlPeterson posted...She signed a statement saying she didn't sleep with him so either way she is a liar. She like immediately said that statement wasn't true and the guy who was her lawyer at the time isn't her lawyer anymore (he also has a shady history). --- ... Copied to Clipboard!
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HokagoTeaTime 03/28/18 11:23:42 AM #100: |
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