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Coffeebeanz
03/27/18 11:32:33 PM
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No progression system whatsoever

A single enemy type

Each faction gives you literally one repeatable mission with random names substituted

One of the three factions is literally dedicated to catching chickens in cages

The enemy AI is basically non-existent and the combat itself is just flailing your sword around.

There's literally no reason to PVP since you can just continually respawn and you lose nothing for dying (and gain nothing for winning)

Even No Man's Sky had a (bad) progression system.

And your only reward for anything you do is visual flair for your pirate, which you can't see anyway since it's First Person other than when you're emoting.

It's like if World of Warcraft launched and there were three quests, no leveling and no gear.
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Mystery_Mission
03/27/18 11:33:17 PM
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Sea of Zs
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Coffeebeanz
03/27/18 11:40:57 PM
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Also the first patch came out and requires downloading the entire 20 GB game again for just bug fixes
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foreveraIone
03/27/18 11:59:36 PM
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"but I'm broke"
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Zeeak4444
03/28/18 12:08:41 AM
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Oh look, more blatant lies from someone who's rep 5 at the max on the game.
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Questionmarktarius
03/28/18 12:19:53 AM
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Staff attrition from about a decade of making pretty much nothing but Kinect Sports.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_video_games_developed_by_Rare
Just look. They went from a-few-to-several games a year (eighteen in 1990), then essentially fell off a cliff after Nuts & Bolts.

The sadder part is that Nintendo is doing the same damn thing to Camelot, thus never selling its stake in Rare probably wouldn't have helped much.
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Chicken
03/28/18 12:20:39 AM
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The game isnt for you. No need to bitch about it.
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Darmik
03/28/18 12:24:53 AM
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I wonder if it was a F2P game at one point and Microsoft got cold feet after all of those flops in the last few years.
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Axiom
03/28/18 12:27:11 AM
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TC you really like to hype the fuck out of certain tech and PS4/Nintendo while shitting on others. Do you have stock in these companies or are you really just that big of a fanboy
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BatmanWTtP
03/28/18 12:29:25 AM
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Chicken posted...
The game isnt for you. No need to bitch about it.

Axiom posted...
TC you really like to hype the fuck out of certain tech and PS4/Nintendo while shitting on others. Do you have stock in these companies or are you really just that big of a fanboy

Why are you defending this game?
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giantblimpN7
03/28/18 12:29:30 AM
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Not trying to be antagonistic here, but can somebody itt explain what is good about the game? Because it doesn't look good.
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Mr_Biscuit
03/28/18 12:32:20 AM
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giantblimpN7 posted...
Not trying to be antagonistic here, but can somebody itt explain what is good about the game? Because it doesn't look good.

This. I'd actually prefer it to be good, I'd love a fun pirate game.
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Frolex
03/28/18 12:33:32 AM
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Darmik posted...
I wonder if it was a F2P game at one point and Microsoft got cold feet after all of those flops in the last few years.


I think it just has more to do with the fact that the "AAA" games space has decayed to the point that publishers feel confident enough that they can get away with charging 60 bucks for a free to play game
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Darmik
03/28/18 12:36:36 AM
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giantblimpN7 posted...
Not trying to be antagonistic here, but can somebody itt explain what is good about the game? Because it doesn't look good.


The appeal of the game really depends on how much you care about social multiplayer games.

If you like the idea of robbing other players or teaming up with them to find some treasure then the game will probably appeal to you. If that doesn't interest you at all there's literally nothing there for you.
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Darmik
03/28/18 12:38:30 AM
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Frolex posted...
Darmik posted...
I wonder if it was a F2P game at one point and Microsoft got cold feet after all of those flops in the last few years.


I think it just has more to do with the fact that the "AAA" games space has decayed to the point that publishers feel confident enough that they can get away with charging 60 bucks for a free to play game


If this whole thing with Fortnite Battle Royale was a year ago this game probably would be F2P.

Modern Microsoft are a very reactive company.
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giantblimpN7
03/28/18 12:39:33 AM
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Darmik posted...
giantblimpN7 posted...
Not trying to be antagonistic here, but can somebody itt explain what is good about the game? Because it doesn't look good.


The appeal of the game really depends on how much you care about social multiplayer games.

If you like the idea of robbing other players or teaming up with them to find some treasure then the game will probably appeal to you. If that doesn't interest you at all there's literally nothing there for you.

Just seems like there is pvp and like 2 or 3 basic templates for coop missions. Sounds like it would get tedious and boring as hell even with friends. That's only based off of a little bit of watching streams so maybe I'm totally wrong about that.
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MwarriorHiei
03/28/18 12:39:41 AM
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giantblimpN7 posted...
Not trying to be antagonistic here, but can somebody itt explain what is good about the game? Because it doesn't look good.

its a twitch/youtube game
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Darmik
03/28/18 12:41:33 AM
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giantblimpN7 posted...
Just seems like there is pvp and like 2 or 3 basic templates for coop missions. Sounds like it would get tedious and boring as hell even with friends. That's only based off of a little bit of watching streams so maybe I'm totally wrong about that.


You're probably not wrong. I think you'd have to prioritize attacking/messing with other players at the moment to have any longevity with the game.

Of course the game will be updated with more content over the next year or so. But eh I don't think it's worth $60 considering the success of other Games as a Service titles like Fortnite and PUBG.
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Zeeak4444
03/28/18 1:05:25 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Oh look, more blatant lies from someone who's rep 5 at the max on the game.


Notice how he's gone. Cause he lied up the ass.

Darmik posted...
giantblimpN7 posted...
Not trying to be antagonistic here, but can somebody itt explain what is good about the game? Because it doesn't look good.


The appeal of the game really depends on how much you care about social multiplayer games.

If you like the idea of robbing other players or teaming up with them to find some treasure then the game will probably appeal to you. If that doesn't interest you at all there's literally nothing there for you.


This is pretty damn true. If you enjoy social multiplayer you'll enjoy it and it hasn't felt like a grind for me at all and I'm rep 30+ on everything.

Prob about 350-400 hours total now if we're including betas and alphas.

If you don't enjoy making stories with other people you'll get little to no enjoyment out of it.
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BignutzisBack
03/28/18 1:07:23 AM
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JustMonika
03/28/18 1:11:16 AM
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It honestly looks like a game on Early Access that was just put on Early Access.
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Chicken
03/28/18 1:23:39 AM
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BatmanWTtP posted...
Chicken posted...
The game isnt for you. No need to bitch about it.

Axiom posted...
TC you really like to hype the fuck out of certain tech and PS4/Nintendo while shitting on others. Do you have stock in these companies or are you really just that big of a fanboy

Why are you defending this game?


Because I enjoy it.

Some people enjoy things that other people might not enjoy. Big shocker.
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Zeeak4444
03/28/18 1:33:58 AM
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Chicken posted...
BatmanWTtP posted...
Chicken posted...
The game isnt for you. No need to bitch about it.

Axiom posted...
TC you really like to hype the fuck out of certain tech and PS4/Nintendo while shitting on others. Do you have stock in these companies or are you really just that big of a fanboy

Why are you defending this game?


Because I enjoy it.

Some people enjoy things that other people might not enjoy. Big shocker.


The craziest part is how much hate comes from people who haven't played it.

Not as lulzy as the people who finish rep 5 quests and say the games too easy but still pretty lulzy.

It's one thing to watch a stream or YouTube and say "eh this doesn't look like it's for me", it's a whole other situation to say "games trash".
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R_Jackal
03/28/18 1:36:19 AM
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Because when you're making a game, there's a lot of shit that can go wrong.

A lot.
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Oderus Urungus
03/28/18 1:46:06 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Also the first patch came out and requires downloading the entire 20 GB game again for just bug fixes


The patch was over 9 GB as I got it from the game pass.
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Mystery_Mission
03/28/18 2:09:23 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Chicken posted...
BatmanWTtP posted...
Chicken posted...
The game isnt for you. No need to bitch about it.

Axiom posted...
TC you really like to hype the fuck out of certain tech and PS4/Nintendo while shitting on others. Do you have stock in these companies or are you really just that big of a fanboy

Why are you defending this game?


Because I enjoy it.

Some people enjoy things that other people might not enjoy. Big shocker.


The craziest part is how much hate comes from people who haven't played it.

Not as lulzy as the people who finish rep 5 quests and say the games too easy but still pretty lulzy.

It's one thing to watch a stream or YouTube and say "eh this doesn't look like it's for me", it's a whole other situation to say "games trash".


dude the game is garbage. get over it.
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juicebox4
03/28/18 2:11:06 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
Also the first patch came out and requires downloading the entire 20 GB game again for just bug fixes

this is criminal. what a bunch of lazy asses.
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Coffeebeanz
03/28/18 2:17:55 AM
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Oderus Urungus posted...
Coffeebeanz posted...
Also the first patch came out and requires downloading the entire 20 GB game again for just bug fixes


The patch was over 9 GB as I got it from the game pass.


X1 is 9 GB
X1X and PC are 20 GB
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Zeeak4444
03/28/18 2:22:03 AM
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Mystery_Mission posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Chicken posted...
BatmanWTtP posted...
Chicken posted...
The game isnt for you. No need to bitch about it.

Axiom posted...
TC you really like to hype the fuck out of certain tech and PS4/Nintendo while shitting on others. Do you have stock in these companies or are you really just that big of a fanboy

Why are you defending this game?


Because I enjoy it.

Some people enjoy things that other people might not enjoy. Big shocker.


The craziest part is how much hate comes from people who haven't played it.

Not as lulzy as the people who finish rep 5 quests and say the games too easy but still pretty lulzy.

It's one thing to watch a stream or YouTube and say "eh this doesn't look like it's for me", it's a whole other situation to say "games trash".


dude the game is garbage. get over it.


Clearly I have as I'm still playing it. Don't know why you're here though, sure give a lot of your time to a garbage game.
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Chicken
03/28/18 2:22:47 AM
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Mystery_Mission posted...
Zeeak4444 posted...
Chicken posted...
BatmanWTtP posted...
Chicken posted...
The game isnt for you. No need to bitch about it.

Axiom posted...
TC you really like to hype the fuck out of certain tech and PS4/Nintendo while shitting on others. Do you have stock in these companies or are you really just that big of a fanboy

Why are you defending this game?


Because I enjoy it.

Some people enjoy things that other people might not enjoy. Big shocker.


The craziest part is how much hate comes from people who haven't played it.

Not as lulzy as the people who finish rep 5 quests and say the games too easy but still pretty lulzy.

It's one thing to watch a stream or YouTube and say "eh this doesn't look like it's for me", it's a whole other situation to say "games trash".


dude the game is garbage. get over it.


Dont like it, dont play it. Imagine wasting your time bitching about something you dont like. I dont like mushrooms but I dont go around on food forums bitching to everyone that likes them. I just dont eat them.
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Coffeebeanz
03/28/18 2:28:14 AM
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I can't imagine putting 300 hours into this game

That's a lot of skeletons and chickens
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K181
03/28/18 2:32:26 AM
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Water looks pretty.
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Zeeak4444
03/28/18 2:48:19 AM
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Coffeebeanz posted...
I can't imagine putting 300 hours into this game

That's a lot of skeletons and chickens


I don't actually do merchant quests. Those I pretty much only rep through forts, gunpowder, and random spices/silks/teas.

It's also a lot of random stories made with people I play long sessions with. Both friends and randoms. Lots of laughs. 32-1 in ships destroyed vs ships lost in the last 4 days.

Like I said in other topics, there's a lot to be desired. It's not perfect and it sure as hell deserves criticism.

It just deserves accurate criticism. For all that's wrong with the game there's a hell of a lot right with it and I sure as hell cant name a single game that offers the same experience nor has even attempted too. Maybe NMS now that it has multiplayer but I don't play it so I can't comment.

Excited to see where it goes but even since release I've put in more hours than I have in the majority of other games I've played in the last decade.
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BatmanWTtP
03/28/18 4:09:36 AM
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Zeeak4444 posted...
Maybe NMS now that it has multiplayer but I don't play it so I can't comment.

Imagine defending NMS and SoT in the same post
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Mystery_Mission
03/28/18 10:16:00 AM
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check out Blackwake on steam if you want a better pirate game
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creativerealms
03/28/18 10:18:02 AM
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It seems Microsoft made them rush the game for the Xbox game pass.
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RE_expert44
03/28/18 10:19:23 AM
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Sounds like another case of the rampant fanboys defending the game to the ends of the earth.
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Lorcus
03/28/18 10:19:41 AM
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I dont understand how people can defend this game its garbage
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creativerealms
03/28/18 10:20:21 AM
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RE_expert44 posted...
Sounds like another case of the rampant fanboys defending the game to the ends of the earth.

Do rare fanboys even exist anymore?
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RE_expert44
03/28/18 10:21:23 AM
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creativerealms posted...
RE_expert44 posted...
Sounds like another case of the rampant fanboys defending the game to the ends of the earth.

Do rare fanboys even exist anymore?

Looks like there is one itt
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NeonOctopus
03/28/18 10:26:37 AM
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creativerealms posted...
It seems Microsoft made them rush the game for the Xbox game pass.

How do you rush a game that took 4 years? >_>
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Romulox28
03/28/18 10:29:24 AM
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I know its not a great game but Im honestly having a lot of fun with sea of thieves, its refreshing. Even my wife, who doesnt play video games, was getting into it. Just wish the game had more content and some pvp tweaks
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creativerealms
03/28/18 10:58:58 AM
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NeonOctopus posted...
creativerealms posted...
It seems Microsoft made them rush the game for the Xbox game pass.

How do you rush a game that took 4 years? >_>

Who knows. I mean Duke Nuken forever was a rushed game that took over a decade. It happens.
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Rexdragon125
03/28/18 11:07:23 AM
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It's sad that content in games is falling out of style
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Virus731
03/28/18 11:08:52 AM
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I wish Sea of Thieves turned out good but from what I've heard it sounds fun for a few hours. Just because it's meant to be a social experience doesn't mean doing the same shit over and over again with your friends is fun. We could play any number of games together and get a similar feeling.
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BlackHorse6969
03/28/18 11:10:54 AM
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This game doesn't have Candied Island. It sucks
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_wwKd_
03/28/18 11:11:39 AM
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All those years to make the best damn looking water I've ever seen.
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creativerealms
03/28/18 11:13:53 AM
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Rexdragon125 posted...
It's sad that content in games is falling out of style

I do believe that Microsoft made them do this intentionally for there xbox game pass so they could get more money from DLC and extra content. They give you the base game in game pass and then make you spend an arm and a leg for all the content. It's evil.
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