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voldothegr8
03/28/18 12:49:52 PM
#51:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
voldothegr8 posted...
The Admiral posted...
> Convicted child rapist
> Carrying illegal gun
> Physically resisting police
> Reaches back for gun during arrest

CE: "Another innocent black man gunned down for no other reason than racist cops"

I don't care about skin color. The dude was restrained on the ground, cop still executes him after clearly saying "I'll kill you bitch". There was absolutely no need for that.


He wasn't subdued, he was reaching for a gun, cop warned him "don't move or I'll kill you", guy kept moving.

I can tell you've never been in a physical confrontation.

I'm a see it to believe it person, and what I saw on that video was a man restrained on the ground and then executed point blank.
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Taharqa_
03/28/18 12:52:53 PM
#52:


I know some people might be ok with extra-judicial killings but I'm not. If the victim is black or brown they'll bring up everything under the sun from the individual's past to justify it.
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hockeybub89
03/28/18 12:55:44 PM
#53:


The Admiral posted...
> Convicted child rapist
> Carrying illegal gun
> Physically resisting police
> Reaches back for gun during arrest

CE: "Another innocent black man gunned down for no other reason than racist cops"

Did they know he was a sex offender and that his gun was illegal? Is that why they were there? Does that give police a license to kill? It's also funny how cops deal with resistance everyday, yet, unless there is some really effective media cover up going on and completely erasing cases, the ones getting shot and killed are almost always black. Even when there is not resistance, the victim is more often black.
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darkjedilink
03/28/18 1:10:40 PM
#54:


hockeybub89 posted...
The Admiral posted...
> Convicted child rapist
> Carrying illegal gun
> Physically resisting police
> Reaches back for gun during arrest

CE: "Another innocent black man gunned down for no other reason than racist cops"

Did they know he was a sex offender and that his gun was illegal? Is that why they were there? Does that give police a license to kill? It's also funny how cops deal with resistance everyday, yet, unless there is some really effective media cover up going on and completely erasing cases, the ones getting shot and killed are almost always black. Even when there is not resistance, the victim is more often black.

Cops kill twice as many white people every year than black people.

And Sterling was shot because he was reaching for the gun he was illegally carrying.
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Paper_Okami
03/28/18 1:14:57 PM
#55:


darkjedilink posted...
Cops kill twice as many white people every year than black people.


White people are 60+ percent of the population. Black people are just 12.
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darkjedilink
03/28/18 1:16:35 PM
#56:


Paper_Okami posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Cops kill twice as many white people every year than black people.

White people are 60+ percent of the population. Black people are just 12.

Cops are called to almost as many black people as white people.

And I was responding to the claim that cops only kill black people.
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sylverlolol
03/28/18 1:20:02 PM
#57:


Jeff AKA Snoopy posted...
We don't have evidence that they meant to kill him.

"I'll KILL YOU B****"

Hmmm....

....srsly

Come on, America.
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MrPeppers
03/28/18 1:22:05 PM
#58:


Paper_Okami posted...
Were_Wyrm posted...
LA gonna LA


this literally happens across the country.


You cant possibly be this dense...
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 1:51:02 PM
#59:


Guy is going for a gun.

Cop says "stop moving or I'll kill you"

Guy continues going for the gun and gets shot.

CE blames cops because they are evil and black people never commit crimes.
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silentwing26x
03/28/18 1:54:13 PM
#60:


darkjedilink posted...
Zikten posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Zikten posted...
The cop that shouted "hes got a gun!" Should be in trouble. He lied or panicked and worsened the situation. Wtf is his problem?

He did have a gun, didn't he?

They found no weapon unless I am mixing up cases. They though he had a gun in the dispatch but he was unarmed when they shot him. But some cop shouted he thought he saw a gun during the fight

He had a gun in his right pocket. That he was actively reaching for during the incident.

That he wasn't legally supposed to have, being a convicted pedophile.


Is all this true?
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darkjedilink
03/28/18 2:44:15 PM
#62:


shockthemonkey posted...
silentwing26x posted...
darkjedilink posted...
Zikten posted...
_RETS_ posted...
Zikten posted...
The cop that shouted "hes got a gun!" Should be in trouble. He lied or panicked and worsened the situation. Wtf is his problem?

He did have a gun, didn't he?

They found no weapon unless I am mixing up cases. They though he had a gun in the dispatch but he was unarmed when they shot him. But some cop shouted he thought he saw a gun during the fight

He had a gun in his right pocket. That he was actively reaching for during the incident.

That he wasn't legally supposed to have, being a convicted pedophile.

Is all this true?

He was subdued on the ground. His arm was squirming a little. It didnt matter what he wanted to reach for, he couldnt get it.

The arm in question was completely free. He most certainly could reach for the gun he was actively reaching for.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 3:15:36 PM
#64:


shockthemonkey posted...
Even going by what youre saying, it paints a pretty grim picture. Suspect had 1 free arm and there was 1 cop standing there staring at him who chose to execute him rather than subduing a single arm? Thats what youre going with in defense of this?


Thank you for proving you've never been in a fight.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 3:21:31 PM
#66:


shockthemonkey posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Even going by what youre saying, it paints a pretty grim picture. Suspect had 1 free arm and there was 1 cop standing there staring at him who chose to execute him rather than subduing a single arm? Thats what youre going with in defense of this?


Thank you for proving you've never been in a fight.



What a dumb non sequitor


It was a very fair conclusion. You think it's easy to just start controlling someone in a fight. Only logical conclusion is that you've never been in a fight.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 3:26:58 PM
#68:


Once again thanks for proving youve never been in a fight.

I for one am glad we live in a world where a cop can shoot a piece of shit when that piece of shit is trying to murder him or her.
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DarkChozoGhost
03/28/18 3:31:04 PM
#69:


Once again the justice system fails to appropriately punish officers that broke the law and murdered a man
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bobbysjoby
03/28/18 3:33:55 PM
#70:


Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Once again thanks for proving youve never been in a fight.

I for one am glad we live in a world where a cop can shoot a piece of shit when that piece of shit is trying to murder him or her.

It was 2 on 1, you sound inexperienced if anything lmao
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 3:36:09 PM
#72:


bobbysjoby posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Once again thanks for proving youve never been in a fight.

I for one am glad we live in a world where a cop can shoot a piece of shit when that piece of shit is trying to murder him or her.

It was 2 on 1, you sound inexperienced if anything lmao


You sound like someone who has never been in a fight.
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bobbysjoby
03/28/18 3:37:10 PM
#73:


Have you ever been In a fight? Have you ever won a fight? Because you sound like you dont know wtf you re talking about m, either that or you fought and got easily dominated and restrained from using your other arm lmao
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 3:38:32 PM
#74:


shockthemonkey posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
Once again thanks for proving youve never been in a fight.

I for one am glad we live in a world where a cop can shoot a piece of shit when that piece of shit is trying to murder him or her.

This is the weirdest non sequitur, like you keep saying Ive never been in a fight because I think a cop is capable of restraining an arm.

Is this a gimmick or something?


Well you clearly don't understand what goes into restraining someone or how hard it is to control someone and you think cops should just gamble their lives away over a wrestling match. I feel like people who have been in a fight realize how chaotic it is and therefore don't say silly things like "he was already subdued and he should have just risked his life by trying to grab the guy".
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 3:42:45 PM
#75:


bobbysjoby posted...
Have you ever been In a fight? Have you ever won a fight? Because you sound like you dont know wtf you re talking about m, either that or you fought and got easily dominated and restrained from using your other arm lmao

Yes more times than I can count and outside of the ring far more times than I'd like.

Also yes I have both lost and won fights.
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TommyG663513
03/28/18 3:46:05 PM
#77:


I just believe it is worse to murder someone than any crime you could have convicted the victim of.

Murder is worse than child rape. Not sure why people are attempting to demonize one act and give the other a pass. At best, they are both garbage human acts.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 3:46:52 PM
#78:


TommyG663513 posted...
I just believe it is worse to murder someone than any crime you could have convicted the victim of.

Murder is worse than child rape. Not sure why people are attempting to demonize one act and give the other a pass. At best, they are both garbage human acts.


It wasn't murder didn't you read the article.
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TommyG663513
03/28/18 3:50:32 PM
#79:


Cops were in a 2 on 1 fight and had him pinned on the ground. They thought it was easier to kill him than restrain one arm. The law views that as totally legal. Don't expect the public to ever be ok with that type of ruling. These protests are only getting worse.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 3:56:20 PM
#80:


TommyG663513 posted...
Cops were in a 2 on 1 fight and had him pinned on the ground. They thought it was easier to kill him than restrain one arm. The law views that as totally legal. Don't expect the public to ever be ok with that type of ruling. These protests are only getting worse.


The cops were in a wrestling match with a guy that if he reached his gun could have killed both of them had one not drawn on him. You don't gamble with your or your partners life so some worthless pos can live.
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GetStumped
03/28/18 4:03:35 PM
#82:


right decision. strong.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 4:49:58 PM
#83:


shockthemonkey posted...
Subduing a man 2-on-1 is not a wrestling match, have you ever been in a wrestling match?

Hes not going to get the joke


Yes. Wrestled in high school. Practiced with the team at a local jc for a few years.

Also worked security in a psych unit where "subduing" patients happened several times a week.
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 4:56:06 PM
#85:


shockthemonkey posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Subduing a man 2-on-1 is not a wrestling match, have you ever been in a wrestling match?

Hes not going to get the joke


Yes. Wrestled in high school. Practiced with the team at a local jc for a few years.

Also worked security in a psych unit where "subduing" patients happened several times a week.

How many of those patients did you kill?


0 although one guy did die via overdose because another patient snuck in a bunch of pills and gave them to him. I don't hold myself responsible for that though.
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The Catgirl Fondler
03/28/18 5:03:37 PM
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Pigs gonna oink.
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_RETS_
03/28/18 5:31:14 PM
#89:


Murdering a child rapist isn't worse than raping a child.

Especially not if the "murder" is justified like in this case
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Cj_WlLL_VVlN
03/28/18 6:06:14 PM
#90:


shockthemonkey posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Cj_WlLL_VVlN posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Subduing a man 2-on-1 is not a wrestling match, have you ever been in a wrestling match?

Hes not going to get the joke


Yes. Wrestled in high school. Practiced with the team at a local jc for a few years.

Also worked security in a psych unit where "subduing" patients happened several times a week.

How many of those patients did you kill?


0 although one guy did die via overdose because another patient snuck in a bunch of pills and gave them to him. I don't hold myself responsible for that though.

And thanks for ruining your own argument


Itp- Ive taken down people that are armed.

I've had fights that I was losing. It's taken several people to. Hold down one person. If we're doing an injection we usually have 3-4 people minimum regardless of size to make sure someone isn't accidentally stuck while they're struggling.

If someone was armed and struggling and two of us are attempting to control them I would most certainly be in fear for my life.
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The Admiral
03/28/18 6:06:34 PM
#91:


It's gotta really suck for these anti-cop folks on CE to constantly find themselves having to defend criminals, thugs, child rapists, and other human trash just for the sake of maintaining their narrative.
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Cal12
03/28/18 6:08:09 PM
#92:


The Catgirl Fondler posted...
Pigs gonna oink.


Username says it all.
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voldothegr8
03/28/18 6:33:42 PM
#94:


shockthemonkey posted...
The Admiral posted...
It's gotta really suck for these anti-cop folks on CE to constantly find themselves having to defend criminals, thugs, child rapists, and other human trash just for the sake of maintaining their narrative.

Find someone defending him or stop talking shit

Seriously. Saying a man doesn't deserve to be held down and executed before facing due process isn't defending him.
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southcoast09
03/29/18 1:28:06 AM
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Tragic, but the cops were not in the wrong. The guy had every drug known to man in his system.
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Ammonitida
03/29/18 3:02:27 PM
#97:


voldothegr8 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
The Admiral posted...
It's gotta really suck for these anti-cop folks on CE to constantly find themselves having to defend criminals, thugs, child rapists, and other human trash just for the sake of maintaining their narrative.

Find someone defending him or stop talking shit

Seriously. Saying a man doesn't deserve to be held down and executed before facing due process isn't defending him.

The word "execution" does not apply to the conduct captured on video, as that word implies premeditated murder. It is clear from the video as well from the surrounding circumstances that the officer was reasonably afraid that this suspect was about to use his weapon on him. This was also the conclusion of two independent investigations. Perhaps it could have been handled better (like for example his partner could have done more to help restrain the suspect's arm), but ultimately the blame falls on Sterling.
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darkjedilink
03/29/18 3:26:55 PM
#98:


voldothegr8 posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
The Admiral posted...
It's gotta really suck for these anti-cop folks on CE to constantly find themselves having to defend criminals, thugs, child rapists, and other human trash just for the sake of maintaining their narrative.

Find someone defending him or stop talking shit

Seriously. Saying a man doesn't deserve to be held down and executed before facing due process isn't defending him.

Saying an illegally-armed pedophile actively attempting to grab his gun doesn't deserve to be shot by the cops that the illegally-armed pedophile was trying to shoot IS defending an illegally-armed pedophile.

And that's what you're doing.
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gamepimp12
03/30/18 8:28:52 PM
#99:


So is no one going to mention that the officer cursing at him and threatening to shoot him from the moment he stepped on the scene is terrible police work.

Like even if you wanna argue hes not legally guilty, thats type of shotty police work is the cause of so many of the issues in the first place.
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The Admiral
03/31/18 12:11:15 AM
#100:


The cop may not have been charged, but he was fired today:

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/03/30/us/baton-rouge-alton-sterling.html
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