Current Events > I'm sorry, but David Lynch is needlessly weird and makes bad movies

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He just wants things to be weird and off putting and there seems to be no reason to 95% of it. If you are being weird and off putting for literally no reason you don't get to act like you are making good movies.

IBHate but I gave 1 movie of his a chance and loathed it, after a bunch of people insisted he's great I am giving another one of this movies a chance and holy fuck, how can anybody like this mess?
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you make bad movies
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tc confirmed for ddiq
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You know the creepy little girl from Dune? She's in like a bajillion Hallmark Christmas movies now. :-)
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Care to mention which of his movies you're watching, pal?

Mulholland Drive is an undisputable classic, and Blue Velvet and Lost Highway are great.

I don't care to see Eraserhead anymore after about 10 views, but that's a weird one. I treat it as an avant-garde horror movie though, and it works.

Never actually watched Inland Empire, but I hear it's pretty damn dark.

Also never seen The Elephant Man which is well acclaimed.

Fire Walk with Me has it's moments, but I'm a massive Twin Peaks fan, so.

Speaking of which, that's the best TV show ever.

tl;dr David Lynch is fucking awesome.
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the only one that I think is trash, that I've seen, is Eraserhead.
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Dreams don't have to make sense to be interesting and make you think.
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boxington posted...

the only one that I think is trash, that I've seen, is Eraserhead.

Hey I love that movie.
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I HATE that movie
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Blue Velvet was straightforward and good.
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I once had the bright idea to watch Eraserhead the night after my gf had the birth control talk with her mom and before she was actually on anything.
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The one I watched before is Eraserhead, the one I'm watching now is "Wild at Heart"

Eraserhead was so annoying to sit through, at least it had a tiny bit of an excuse for the nonsense it was sustaining. (it was imagery supposed to represent how the main character was feeling... sort of)

But this movie literally seems to have no reason for any of this. It's not through any character's pov, the world isn't real and everybody is a cartoon from a dumb person's drug dream and there seems to be no reason for any of it.

I will paypal anybody 10 dollars if they can express a really good logical sound justification for the intent of repeating the same screeching "woman screaming at music performance" audio clip over and over in a scene in this movie. And it can't just be "it's satire" satire of what, and why?

I'm convinced loads of these choices, deliberately constructed as they may be, serve no function but to be weird and offputting.
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Damn that one's still on my list to watch. Love Nicolas Cage; hate Laura Dern (which sucks seeing as Lynch is in love with her).
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TC, have you ever delved into experimental film?

That's what David Lynch makes. He does mix it with narrative film, but he's just an experimental filmmaker that broke into the mainstream. There are dozens (hundreds?) of others like him that normal people never hear about.

It's not necessarily needlessly weird. It's just looking at film as an artform and trying to do things with it that nobody has done before.

I was never big into experimental film when I was in school, so I totally understand not being into it. Just saying you should know more about the artform before trashing Lynch.

Below is an example of experimental film that I was much more interested in as a student:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgqH3PK6-3Q" data-time="
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EastKingStar posted...

Below is an example of experimental film that I was much more interested in as a student:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgqH3PK6-3Q" data-time="

I've seen some strange shit in his movies.
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His movies are okay. Liked his work when I was younger, but I grew out of it.

One scene from his movies always stuck with me though.

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EastKingStar posted...

TC, have you ever delved into experimental film?

That's what David Lynch makes. He does mix it with narrative film, but he's just an experimental filmmaker that broke into the mainstream. There are dozens (hundreds?) of others like him that normal people never hear about.

It's not necessarily needlessly weird. It's just looking at film as an artform and trying to do things with it that nobody has done before.

I was never big into experimental film when I was in school, so I totally understand not being into it. Just saying you should know more about the artform before trashing Lynch.

Below is an example of experimental film that I was much more interested in as a student:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgqH3PK6-3Q" data-time="

I have a film degree which I'm pretty sure means I'm supposed to love him, but IMO experimental film is pretty dumb. Particularly when the experiment seems to consistently be my patience.

I truly don't see what his movies are trying to accomplish, it's not a real experiment because it's haphazard weirdness with no rhyme or reason to lots of it. There is no thing that is being tested and no control. It's screwing around basically.

If avant garde artsy farts want to have competitions where they make and share weird movies to see who can be the most weird and off putting they can but I wish people would stop recommending these things as real movies.

When people recommend food they don't recommend food that is an unpleasant mess of clashing flavors and then when I say it tastes horrible they say "yeah, that's the point'

You are not going to stub my toe and then tell me to thank you for the artistic value of the toe stub, in the same way you shouldn't make people watch movies that are unpleasant for no reason and then treat it like it's great.

At some point in life you have to be able to call a bad thing a bad thing, and so a thing that sets out to be unpleasant for no reason to me is by definition bad.

It shouldn't be presented to people as if it's a real movie, I mean shame on me for falling for it again but still. It's not a real movie, you can't even enjoy it the same way you enjoy a bad movie because it's trying to be bad.

I guess it really gets on my nerves because if the kinds of things lynch produces can't be called bad movies then I really don't know what can. If you hate transformers but love lynch then you are probably more just film snob signalling because if we give praise to movies that achieve their goals however unpleasant their goals are then it seems like we should praise both.

There has to be more than "is it successful at what it is trying to be" when judging a movie, else we could literally have 10 hours of solid white and if that's the intention then yippie perfect film.
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In Heaven, everything's fine
You got your good things
And I've got mine

I can't speak on his films or much of his work since I've never seen a David Lynch anything. But my friend showed me a clip of what I believe of Twin Peaks (he recently became a big fan) and I can't really describe it but I'll try:

It was a gas station or a small building being filmed as people are walking by it, but the frames of the whole sequence was heavily edited and played out of sequence. All while loud disorted music is playing.

The whole time my friend is like, "Isn't this amazing!?" and I'm like, "This is kind of dumb. What the fuck is even happening?"
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I don't think it's fair to criticize someone when you completely misinterpret what they're attempting to do.

I'm by no means a film buff or a David Lynch fan, but the few things I've seen from him seemed to me like he was attempting to tap directly into the subconscious and evoke powerful emotions, similar to how your dreams operate.
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I saw lost highway and it was terrible. If his other movies are anything like that I'm not interested.

Agree with tc. Felt like it was trying to be weird for the sake of being weird. Felt like pretentious garbage to me
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This is the water
And this is the well
Drink full
And descend
The horse is the white of the eyes
And dark within
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I kind of agree with TC, I watched Mullholand Drive and most what people like to say is "unsettling" is just really dumb.

Especially the ending.
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When you're watching David Lynch movies, just remember that he's not like other directors. His movies are incredibly artistic, almost to the point where you have to be paying complete attention to them to even remotely understand them. I remember watching a scene from Mulholland Drive (though I can't remember what scene it was), where I thought the scene was absolute bollocks during watching it. Then, I looked closely for a second, and all of a sudden the scene had an entirely new meaning. It was insane the way a David Lynch movie could just become something so different when you take a look into the scenes.

Another thing you should note about David Lynch is that it's easy to get a headache watching his movies. Not because he's a bad director, but because of how many ideas his movies are riddled with and how complex they are. Soon enough your head will fill to the brim and the rest will just look like nonsense to you. Just turn it off and give it a watch the next day.

If you don't like certain movies, you'll definitely at least enjoy the cinematography and the surreal imagery, and picking apart the scene itself and all of the artistic values that go into making it the complexity that it is.
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-YouAsked4This- posted...

When you're watching David Lynch movies, just remember that he's not like other directors. His movies are incredibly artistic, almost to the point where you have to be paying complete attention to them to even remotely understand them. I remember watching a scene from Mulholland Drive (though I can't remember what scene it was), where I thought the scene was absolute bollocks during watching it. Then, I looked closely for a second, and all of a sudden the scene had an entirely new meaning. It was insane the way a David Lynch movie could just become something so different when you take a look into the scenes.

Another thing you should note about David Lynch is that it's easy to get a headache watching his movies. Not because he's a bad director, but because of how many ideas his movies are riddled with and how complex they are. Soon enough your head will fill to the brim and the rest will just look like nonsense to you. Just turn it off and give it a watch the next day.

If you don't like certain movies, you'll definitely at least enjoy the cinematography and the surreal imagery, and picking apart the scene itself and all of the artistic values that go into making it the complexity that it is.

I'm sorry but this almost sounds like a copypasta people would share from lynch fans.

"Not because he's a bad director, but because of how many ideas his movies are riddled with and how complex they are. Soon enough your head will fill to the brim and the rest will just look like nonsense to you."

I give a counter theory: A lot of stuff he does he does because he thinks it's weird and interesting and those who are really invested in him find meaning in it because if you go into something certain it has meaning then you can find meaning that isn't there.
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It's a copypasta.
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lol

It's the damn Tool copypasta. I just made it fit with David Lynch.

That's funny someone took it seriously though.
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