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Metro2
03/22/18 4:59:00 PM
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The tweet she liked:

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The Harry Potter author liked a tweet from a Twitter account whose bio reads: Call me bigot, terf, transphobe: I defend womens sex-based rights. Respect political significance of womens biology! The tweet, posted on 19 March, read: I was shouted at by men at my first Labour Party meeting aged 18 because I asked them to remove a Page 3 calendar. Ive been told to toughen up, be louder, stronger, independent. Ive often not felt supported. Men in dresses get brocialist solidarity I never had. Thats misogyny! The post still appears amongst the 19,000 tweets Rowling has liked on Twitter.

In response to somebody asking the Twitter account what they meant by their tweet, they replied: Im saying transwomen have no right to take womens places in politics. Im saying theyre protected by brocialists in ways women havent been. Im saying transwomen are currently being heard more than women and actively silencing women in debate. Im saying transwomen are men. However, Rowlings rep told Metro.co.uk: Im afraid J.K. Rowling had a clumsy and middle-aged moment and this is not the first time she has favourited by holding her phone incorrectly.

The like gained notice when trans journalist Shon Faye, who is referred to by her dead name on the offending tweet, saw that Rowling had liked it, and tweeted: Trans culture is seeing the beloved author of your generation like a transphobic tweet from a troll account which has repeatedly called you a man. Jack Monroe, aka the Bootstrap Cook, added: Wait so @jk_rowling wrote books where the characters could literally transform into cats and dead people but trans folk are beyond all comprehension?

Men in dresses from a woman who literally made a fortune writing about MEN IN DRESSES? Waahh what this is just so crappy. And many Harry Potter fans who saw the like were just as furious. One person replied: Do you realise what youve liked here @jk_rowling ? This tweet is hugely offensive and anti-trans. Another reply read: @jk_rowling liking this tweet is the most pathetic thing youve done to date. Smh so much for childhood heroes.


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Zikten
03/22/18 5:01:20 PM
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The left is eating itself again
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hollow_shrine
03/22/18 5:02:48 PM
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Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Y'all need some new material. Or at least a meme.
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EastKingStar
03/22/18 5:03:16 PM
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Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again


lmao my thoughts exactly
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Kid_Buu
03/22/18 5:04:13 PM
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why is she so gross
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Gafemage
03/22/18 5:04:35 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Its funny how this is what people say when people on the left are critical of each other, as if being critical is somehow a bad thing. Sorry everyone doesnt just fall in line?

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EverDownward
03/22/18 5:04:52 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Y'all need some new material. Or at least a meme.

Can you be my meme?
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IslamMD
03/22/18 5:04:55 PM
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Had no idea what a TERF was... looked it up in that dictionary.

Trans-Exclusionary Radical Feminist. That group of feminists that claims that trans women aren't really women.

OK this post makes sense now
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EastKingStar
03/22/18 5:05:43 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Its funny how this is what people say when people on the left are critical of each other, as if being critical is somehow a bad thing. Sorry everyone doesnt just fall in line?


Because JK is very liberal but nothing is ever enough for extreme leftists like the person tweeting back at her.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/22/18 5:06:25 PM
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I don't think either of those comments are particularly bad. The second one I take no issue with at all.
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refmon
03/22/18 5:06:32 PM
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Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

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Kid_Buu
03/22/18 5:06:34 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Its funny how this is what people say when people on the left are critical of each other, as if being critical is somehow a bad thing. Sorry everyone doesnt just fall in line?

what do you expect from a guy who defends Nazis
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Youngster_Joey_
03/22/18 5:06:41 PM
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Meh, I thought it was funnier when they got mad at RuPaul of all people.
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_Rinku_
03/22/18 5:07:13 PM
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Gafemage posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Its funny how this is what people say when people on the left are critical of each other, as if being critical is somehow a bad thing. Sorry everyone doesnt just fall in line?
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hyperpsycho
03/22/18 5:08:05 PM
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Metro2 posted...
Im saying transwomen have no right to take womens places in politics. Im saying theyre protected by brocialists in ways women havent been. Im saying transwomen are currently being heard more than women and actively silencing women in debate. Im saying transwomen are men.

What planet does this clown live in where trans women are treated better than cis women?
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Gafemage
03/22/18 5:08:22 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
I don't think either of those comments are particularly bad. The second one I take no issue with at all.

The woman she faved is transphobic though. She made another tweet before privating her account about how trans inclusion is anti-feminist & requires validation from capitalism(???)
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Giant_Aspirin
03/22/18 5:08:40 PM
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so the tweet itself wasn't a problem, but the account that tweeted it is? is that right?

edit: the tweet itself is a problem, i was being dense when reading OP.
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Ulyanyx
03/22/18 5:08:49 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Its funny how this is what people say when people on the left are critical of each other, as if being critical is somehow a bad thing. Sorry everyone doesnt just fall in line?

on either side of the political spectrum, people fall in line. you are doing the same.
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EastKingStar
03/22/18 5:08:50 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
EastKingStar posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Its funny how this is what people say when people on the left are critical of each other, as if being critical is somehow a bad thing. Sorry everyone doesnt just fall in line?


Because JK is very liberal but nothing is ever enough for extreme leftists like the person tweeting back at her.

Shes liberal so no one should ever be critical of her?

Do you hear yourself?


Do you think she did something wrong in "liking" this post?
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Vyrulisse
03/22/18 5:08:54 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Its funny how this is what people say when people on the left are critical of each other, as if being critical is somehow a bad thing. Sorry everyone doesnt just fall in line?

That's the issue though. If you don't fall exactly in line you get treated like this.
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Steve Nick
03/22/18 5:10:46 PM
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hyperpsycho posted...
Metro2 posted...
Im saying transwomen have no right to take womens places in politics. Im saying theyre protected by brocialists in ways women havent been. Im saying transwomen are currently being heard more than women and actively silencing women in debate. Im saying transwomen are men.

What planet does this clown live in where trans women are treated better than cis women?


I think she's just wording her point very badly.

The idea behind what she's saying is that transwomen don't experience the same issues that women do. Transwomen are part of a completely different group and are fighting a completely different fight that has nothing at all to do with women or women's rights.
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The Admiral
03/22/18 5:12:01 PM
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Gafemage posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Its funny how this is what people say when people on the left are critical of each other, as if being critical is somehow a bad thing. Sorry everyone doesnt just fall in line?


This expression is never used when the left is "being critical," it's used when regressive liberals take petty and useless snipes because they want to one-up each other for oppression points.

If this was a useful criticism -- like someone of the left criticizing Hillary's banking ties or Bernie's horrendous healthcare plan -- no one would use that expression.
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hollow_shrine
03/22/18 5:12:07 PM
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From a certain perspective I can almost see how Rowling might have snap retweeted this, if she wasn't familiar with the user. It does seem to be calling out clear sexism in the labor party, and that's something Rowling would be quick to chastise.

But then I read the rest of the profile, and the kindest thing I can offer is that it looks like she didn't read it all, and (hopefully) accidentally retweeted some mess. It really lays out that TERFs seem to think transwomen really are just men in drag, and that sexual predation is an intrinsic characteristic of the male body (perhaps even biology) instead of a collection of toxic invasive behaviors.

The Admiral posted...
This expression is never used when the left is "being critical," it's used when regressive liberals take petty and useless snipes because they want to one-up each other for oppression points.

If this was a useful criticism -- like someone of the left criticizing Hillary's banking ties or Bernie's horrendous healthcare plan -- no one would use that expression.

Bullshit. It comes up when ever we talk about racism/whitewashing in the LGBT community, higher rates of anti-LGBT violence among minority communities, reconciling the economics of establishment democrats to those further on the left, depoliticization/commercialization of Pride, etc.

And the people who say it never stick around to get the nuance or do anything more than shitpost and go. They don't know shit, and don't care enough to learn, because their animating principle is that all of it is wrong and none of it is worth the attention. Post #2 starts from a place of bad faith and then goes downhill from there.
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Vyrulisse
03/22/18 5:12:28 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
Vyrulisse posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Its funny how this is what people say when people on the left are critical of each other, as if being critical is somehow a bad thing. Sorry everyone doesnt just fall in line?

That's the issue though. If you don't fall exactly in line you get treated like this.

Oh no, her ideas are being challenged! The left is eating itself because some people are pointing out transphobia!

Yes, I often challenge ideas by flinging negative labels at people I disagree with.
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MorningRose
03/22/18 5:12:33 PM
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Well, I guess i'm not a fan of her anymore... shame.
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ClockworkHare
03/22/18 5:12:38 PM
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hollow_shrine posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Y'all need some new material. Or at least a meme.

PK4sbP2
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NibeIungsnarf
03/22/18 5:13:40 PM
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Gafemage posted...
NibeIungsnarf posted...
I don't think either of those comments are particularly bad. The second one I take no issue with at all.

The woman she faved is transphobic though. She made another tweet before privating her account about how trans inclusion is anti-feminist & requires validation from capitalism(???)

Okay? I still don't really see the issue here. The men in dresses comment is always uncalled for, but I ultimately fall on "please be mad about truly hateful comments" line here.
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EastKingStar
03/22/18 5:14:55 PM
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MorningRose posted...
Well, I guess i'm not a fan of her anymore... shame.


hahaha
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MorningRose
03/22/18 5:15:22 PM
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EastKingStar posted...
MorningRose posted...
Well, I guess i'm not a fan of her anymore... shame.


hahaha

Really hilarious.
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philsov
03/22/18 5:15:23 PM
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The tweet itself is benign

The author isn't, but fuck the concept of reviewing the author and their other posted content before I press the Like button on a statement I agree with.
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Kid_Buu
03/22/18 5:15:51 PM
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EastKingStar posted...
MorningRose posted...
Well, I guess i'm not a fan of her anymore... shame.


hahaha

Shut up.
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Kid_Buu
03/22/18 5:16:26 PM
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philsov posted...
The tweet itself is benign

The author isn't, but fuck the concept of reviewing the author and their other posted content before I press the Like button on a statement I agree with.

calling trans women men in dresses is not benign
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NibeIungsnarf
03/22/18 5:17:03 PM
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philsov posted...
The tweet itself is benign

The author isn't, but fuck the concept of reviewing the author and their other posted content before I press the Like button on a statement I agree with.

Yeah that doesn't seem to be something that should be necessary or something to make people flip their lid when it isnt done if "the tweet itself is benign"

It's twitter, not a science journal.
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EastKingStar
03/22/18 5:17:22 PM
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MorningRose posted...
EastKingStar posted...
MorningRose posted...
Well, I guess i'm not a fan of her anymore... shame.


hahaha

Really hilarious.


It really is, I can barely contain myself rn
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The Admiral
03/22/18 5:17:57 PM
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shockthemonkey posted...
The Admiral posted...
Gafemage posted...
shockthemonkey posted...
Zikten posted...
The left is eating itself again

Its funny how this is what people say when people on the left are critical of each other, as if being critical is somehow a bad thing. Sorry everyone doesnt just fall in line?


This expression is never used when the left is "being critical," it's used when regressive liberals take petty and useless snipes because they want to one-up each other for oppression points.

If this was a useful criticism -- like someone of the left criticizing Hillary's banking ties or Bernie's horrendous healthcare plan -- no one would use that expression.

Thats right, it only counts when you say it counts


I wasn't the one who said it in this topic, but I get that you have no actual response and don't want to admit being wrong again.
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MorningRose
03/22/18 5:18:42 PM
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EastKingStar posted...
MorningRose posted...
EastKingStar posted...
MorningRose posted...
Well, I guess i'm not a fan of her anymore... shame.


hahaha

Really hilarious.


It really is, I can barely contain myself rn

Good for you.
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Giant_Aspirin
03/22/18 5:19:34 PM
#43:


Kid_Buu posted...
philsov posted...
The tweet itself is benign

The author isn't, but fuck the concept of reviewing the author and their other posted content before I press the Like button on a statement I agree with.

calling trans women men in dresses is not benign


but you can still agree with a specific statement without endorsing everything the person making that statement stands for.

this is ridiculous.

if Donald Trump tweeted something like "I like pizza" and I liked that tweet, it would in no way relate to anything else he tweeted or said.

edit: this is a bad post because of poor reading comprehension on my part
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Antifar
03/22/18 5:20:52 PM
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Rowling is hardly the left; see her tweets about anything Corbyn does
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LethalAffinity
03/22/18 5:20:59 PM
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Honestly JK Rowling has garbage opinions. I'm saying this as someone who was a fan of HP growing up.
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NibeIungsnarf
03/22/18 5:21:42 PM
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Giant_Aspirin posted...


but you can still agree with a specific statement without endorsing everything the person making that statement stands for.

this is ridiculous.

if Donald Trump tweeted something like "I like pizza" and I liked that tweet, it would in no way relate to anything else he tweeted or said.

Did you read the OP?
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Kid_Buu
03/22/18 5:22:39 PM
#48:


Giant_Aspirin posted...
Kid_Buu posted...
philsov posted...
The tweet itself is benign

The author isn't, but fuck the concept of reviewing the author and their other posted content before I press the Like button on a statement I agree with.

calling trans women men in dresses is not benign


but you can still agree with a specific statement without endorsing everything the person making that statement stands for.

this is ridiculous.

if Donald Trump tweeted something like "I like pizza" and I liked that tweet, it would in no way relate to anything else he tweeted or said.

go read the tweet she liked before responding to me talking about said tweet, thanks
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UnfairRepresent
03/22/18 5:23:54 PM
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I swear people just look for reasons to be mad at JK Rowling.

If JK Rowling invented a Star Trek style replicator that solved world hunger, people would be on Twitter screaming at her for not being able to cook.
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Giant_Aspirin
03/22/18 5:24:11 PM
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NibeIungsnarf posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...


but you can still agree with a specific statement without endorsing everything the person making that statement stands for.

this is ridiculous.

if Donald Trump tweeted something like "I like pizza" and I liked that tweet, it would in no way relate to anything else he tweeted or said.

Did you read the OP?


re-read the OP and found the actual tweet. was having a hard time seeing it before for some reason. i get why people are upset about her liking that tweet now, thanks.

Kid_Buu posted...
Giant_Aspirin posted...
Kid_Buu posted...
philsov posted...
The tweet itself is benign

The author isn't, but fuck the concept of reviewing the author and their other posted content before I press the Like button on a statement I agree with.

calling trans women men in dresses is not benign


but you can still agree with a specific statement without endorsing everything the person making that statement stands for.

this is ridiculous.

if Donald Trump tweeted something like "I like pizza" and I liked that tweet, it would in no way relate to anything else he tweeted or said.

go read the tweet she liked before responding to me talking about said tweet, thanks


i was mistaken and i thought the part about 'men in dresses' was from the author's bio, not from the tweet itself. i messed up.
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